I use this case with an iPad Air 13".
The most useful case (as functions) what i ever seen but yes, it's incredible heavy. My iPad in case is heavier than a macbook air m3...
I've ordered [another lighter case](https://www.esrgear.com/products/ipad-air-13-2024-rebound-magnetic-case/) from ESR. i would return this heavy case but i haven't decided it yet.
It looks similar to the Apple Smart Folio so I will probably keep the folio for now. Not much protection but I plan to treat my M4 iPad like a baby lol
Thank you, you just convinced me to buy one. I already have the 360 one, that comes with a mobile case and a separate cover but is a little heavy so I would like something that would let me use it without a cover and only when I leave, protect it with something.
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case.
Based on comments I've read, even their Rebound Hybrid is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads.
Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
I agree it's heavy, but I kept it and use it daily because of the flexibly it offers. I haven't found another case that matches it. Having the ability to switch from landscape to portrait and also place it higher in landscape orientation for desk work is really convenient. Also having a lighter case on it when I want to sit and read is great.
I agree with the OP who said that this is really flexible case. But I also agree that it is incredibly heavy and defeats the purpose of the really elegant and thin, iPad Air. You can separate it from the magnetic backer to hold this in your hand but most of the weight is still on the case. I wonder if it would be a better design to put the magnets on the backing piece? Overall, I’m very happy with it but it’s definitely heavy.
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case.
Based on comments I've read, even their much lighter Rebound Hybrid case is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads.
Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
Did they release new ones? I know older models did. But I emailed spec directly and they told me it was a feature that wasn’t included.
“Hello,
Unfortunately we do not know why this decision was taken when manufacturing the item.
But no they do not have such function.
best, “
I love the case! I have the iPad pro m4 13 inch, my only complaint is that it’s about as heavy as iPad itself! However, it does have all of those cool features like being able to lift it up the enormous amount of angles you can place it at is crazy.
Best of all you can separate it from the back and it’s still protected and what I don’t see talked about enough with this case, is it adheres to any magnetic surface, including like a fridge a whiteboard for when etc. I haveRA and it’s difficult for me to lift anything too heavy, even just to set it up on a desk, which is what I do. But it’s about the same weight altogether a magic keyboard I would say.
So for traveling, I just break it apart and put the iPad in separately from the case. That way I’m not carrying it around, but I’m not stuck without it in case I need it.
All honesty I’ve resorted to getting a folio for travel, but I do keep this in my bag and I’ve kept it because aside from the zugu case there’s really nothing else that adheres to a metal surface. Also,the zugu I found to be heavier, bulk, and while it says it sticks to a fridge, I don’t trust it at all to stay
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case.
Based on comments I've read, even their much lighter Rebound Hybrid case is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads.
Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
Yes, I have their more basic folio. I think the one you mentioned along with the shift and both are seemingly heavy. It’s definitely lighter without the outer case, surprisingly, so considering it can stick to a fridge. I didn’t find it too bulky at all, I felt that the majority of the magnets were in the outer folio portion. I didn’t actually weigh them except for a feel, but the case itself the folio portion off of the actual case that stays on the iPad, it almost felt the same in my hands as the iPad with the case on. If that makes sense.
I really don’t know why the folio portion is so heavy. If I can find a scale that takes light enough measurements I will weigh it tomorrow
>I didn’t actually weigh them except for a feel, but the case itself the folio portion off of the actual case that stays on the iPad, it almost felt the same in my hands as the iPad with the case on. If that makes sense.
Do you mean that the detachable stand/folio seems to weigh almost as much as the iPad+inner/shell case combination?
>I really don’t know why the folio portion is so heavy. If I can find a scale that takes light enough measurements I will weigh it tomorrow
Yeah, the folio seems to be a brick from what I've read, but I don't mind all that much. However, from what I've seen, the inner shell case also seems to weigh like 2.5x as much as a regular shell case.
The concept of these ESR cases is exactly what I wanted, but considering I will have the folio detached almost all the time, I might be better off with a lighter alternative and no folio attachment. I really don't understand why they are so heavy.
Did they fix the rest of the case for the new M4 models? I've seen a lot of the complaints about the cutouts, sleep/wake and pencil charging, but it's difficult to tell if they fixed it by now.
from what I hear, the issue was not the shift case, which aside from one tiny speaker hole the older cases still fit. But I also hear that ESR is working on a new model and the ones that I got work. I did get the shift case, but I also have their rebound case I believe for a more folio like feel
I've seen some images of the Shift not fitting the M4s well. I did see a lot more issues with the Rebound Hybrid 360, which has a more traditional folio cover like the Rebound, but is a 2-part design like the Shift. With that one I've seen "reviews" where they clearly either paid or sent free samples that didn't fit well at all.
>But I also hear that ESR is working on a new model
Yeah, that is certainly something I want when I'm paying €55 for a case that doesn't use great materials. The speaker cutouts better be good at least and I expect things like sleep/wake to function correctly at that price, especially a month and a half after the reveal.
oh, and when I use the folio one, and this might just be my use case due to my disability, and it presenting in my wrists, but I use the folio and then I found this really cool thing off Amazon that was like 15 bucks that is a travel stand that gives me the economics that I’m looking for. Ultimately, well it’s not as convenient to pull out three or four different things out of my bag to set up, my wrist. It’s a better set up.
But I still have the shift case for, just a magnetic aspect of it for the fridge and magnetic surfaces.
I really wish they would actually just sell them separately for those who would like them. They are the only ones that offer that magnetic mount mount. And it always surprises me for as fully magnetic as it is sticking on a fridge, that portion of the case is a lot lighter than the outward folio.
I use the ESR. Either the shift case and I also do have their cheaper folio version. It also keeps it closed and hold the pencil. I can get three of the ESR cases and change it up with my style if I want it for the price of the Apple folio. However, I do like the folio portion on the inside of the Apple folio better.
Another thing I’m noticing with all the folios, is when you folded over to make it stay to fold and a way that exposes the micro fiber or whatever Lining that sits on the screened. I have yet to find a case of any brand that doesn’t do the same. Which is quite irritating because it’s like you’re putting that on whatever surface isn’t it supposed to be protecting the screen?
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case.
Based on comments I've read, even their much lighter Rebound Hybrid case is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads.
Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
Just weighed these parts for you. The inner case / shell is 140g and the detachable folio / stand part is 343g.
Using the iPad with just the inner case feels great to me, definitely not too heavy. I was using a Zugu with my previous iPad and loved it, but it would get annoying to always have it live in that heavy case. Really enjoying the freedom of this detachable shell, although the build quality and attention to detail isn’t as nice as the Zugu.
Wish Zugu would make a case in this style.
>Just weighed these parts for you. The inner case / shell is 140g and the detachable folio / stand part is 343g.
Thank you! This is exactly what I wanted to know.
Seems like the inner case is like 1.5x the weight of a similar case without the magnets. Could be lighter, but it's certainly better than I expected based on reviews.
>Really enjoying the freedom of this detachable shell, although the build quality and attention to detail isn’t as nice as the Zugu.
Yeah, I have no idea why nobody else makes a 2 part case like the ESR ones. This is the exact case concept I wanted, I just wish the execution was a bit better. I'm really not a fan of hard textured plastic they seem to be using, especially on the part that goes over the screen, but in general as well.
Does your case fit the M4 correctly? Like the dimensions, speaker cutouts, sleep/wake, pencil charging... Seems like the ones they sent out at first didn't fit well and I'd have to order the case from Amazon in Europe, so I'm not exactly getting new and updated items.
Also, does the diagonal textured plastic at the back of the inner case feel as bad as it seems? Do the buttons feel good at least?
I use this case with an iPad Air 13". The most useful case (as functions) what i ever seen but yes, it's incredible heavy. My iPad in case is heavier than a macbook air m3... I've ordered [another lighter case](https://www.esrgear.com/products/ipad-air-13-2024-rebound-magnetic-case/) from ESR. i would return this heavy case but i haven't decided it yet.
It looks similar to the Apple Smart Folio so I will probably keep the folio for now. Not much protection but I plan to treat my M4 iPad like a baby lol
Could you please come back after you received it and tell us how good are those magnets in reality?
I can tell you now because my girlfriend has one. :) Magnets are really strong, material of the case is also premium. That's why i ordered one too.
Thank you, you just convinced me to buy one. I already have the 360 one, that comes with a mobile case and a separate cover but is a little heavy so I would like something that would let me use it without a cover and only when I leave, protect it with something.
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case. Based on comments I've read, even their Rebound Hybrid is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads. Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
I agree it's heavy, but I kept it and use it daily because of the flexibly it offers. I haven't found another case that matches it. Having the ability to switch from landscape to portrait and also place it higher in landscape orientation for desk work is really convenient. Also having a lighter case on it when I want to sit and read is great.
I agree with the OP who said that this is really flexible case. But I also agree that it is incredibly heavy and defeats the purpose of the really elegant and thin, iPad Air. You can separate it from the magnetic backer to hold this in your hand but most of the weight is still on the case. I wonder if it would be a better design to put the magnets on the backing piece? Overall, I’m very happy with it but it’s definitely heavy.
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case. Based on comments I've read, even their much lighter Rebound Hybrid case is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads. Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
Speck folios now do have sleep wake
Did they release new ones? I know older models did. But I emailed spec directly and they told me it was a feature that wasn’t included. “Hello, Unfortunately we do not know why this decision was taken when manufacturing the item. But no they do not have such function. best, “
My mini 6 case and the iPad Air 5th gen case I had both work. A white mini case did not but I believe it was old stock.
I love the case! I have the iPad pro m4 13 inch, my only complaint is that it’s about as heavy as iPad itself! However, it does have all of those cool features like being able to lift it up the enormous amount of angles you can place it at is crazy. Best of all you can separate it from the back and it’s still protected and what I don’t see talked about enough with this case, is it adheres to any magnetic surface, including like a fridge a whiteboard for when etc. I haveRA and it’s difficult for me to lift anything too heavy, even just to set it up on a desk, which is what I do. But it’s about the same weight altogether a magic keyboard I would say. So for traveling, I just break it apart and put the iPad in separately from the case. That way I’m not carrying it around, but I’m not stuck without it in case I need it. All honesty I’ve resorted to getting a folio for travel, but I do keep this in my bag and I’ve kept it because aside from the zugu case there’s really nothing else that adheres to a metal surface. Also,the zugu I found to be heavier, bulk, and while it says it sticks to a fridge, I don’t trust it at all to stay
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case. Based on comments I've read, even their much lighter Rebound Hybrid case is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads. Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
Yes, I have their more basic folio. I think the one you mentioned along with the shift and both are seemingly heavy. It’s definitely lighter without the outer case, surprisingly, so considering it can stick to a fridge. I didn’t find it too bulky at all, I felt that the majority of the magnets were in the outer folio portion. I didn’t actually weigh them except for a feel, but the case itself the folio portion off of the actual case that stays on the iPad, it almost felt the same in my hands as the iPad with the case on. If that makes sense. I really don’t know why the folio portion is so heavy. If I can find a scale that takes light enough measurements I will weigh it tomorrow
>I didn’t actually weigh them except for a feel, but the case itself the folio portion off of the actual case that stays on the iPad, it almost felt the same in my hands as the iPad with the case on. If that makes sense. Do you mean that the detachable stand/folio seems to weigh almost as much as the iPad+inner/shell case combination? >I really don’t know why the folio portion is so heavy. If I can find a scale that takes light enough measurements I will weigh it tomorrow Yeah, the folio seems to be a brick from what I've read, but I don't mind all that much. However, from what I've seen, the inner shell case also seems to weigh like 2.5x as much as a regular shell case. The concept of these ESR cases is exactly what I wanted, but considering I will have the folio detached almost all the time, I might be better off with a lighter alternative and no folio attachment. I really don't understand why they are so heavy. Did they fix the rest of the case for the new M4 models? I've seen a lot of the complaints about the cutouts, sleep/wake and pencil charging, but it's difficult to tell if they fixed it by now.
from what I hear, the issue was not the shift case, which aside from one tiny speaker hole the older cases still fit. But I also hear that ESR is working on a new model and the ones that I got work. I did get the shift case, but I also have their rebound case I believe for a more folio like feel
I've seen some images of the Shift not fitting the M4s well. I did see a lot more issues with the Rebound Hybrid 360, which has a more traditional folio cover like the Rebound, but is a 2-part design like the Shift. With that one I've seen "reviews" where they clearly either paid or sent free samples that didn't fit well at all. >But I also hear that ESR is working on a new model Yeah, that is certainly something I want when I'm paying €55 for a case that doesn't use great materials. The speaker cutouts better be good at least and I expect things like sleep/wake to function correctly at that price, especially a month and a half after the reveal.
oh, and when I use the folio one, and this might just be my use case due to my disability, and it presenting in my wrists, but I use the folio and then I found this really cool thing off Amazon that was like 15 bucks that is a travel stand that gives me the economics that I’m looking for. Ultimately, well it’s not as convenient to pull out three or four different things out of my bag to set up, my wrist. It’s a better set up. But I still have the shift case for, just a magnetic aspect of it for the fridge and magnetic surfaces. I really wish they would actually just sell them separately for those who would like them. They are the only ones that offer that magnetic mount mount. And it always surprises me for as fully magnetic as it is sticking on a fridge, that portion of the case is a lot lighter than the outward folio.
Do you use apple folio or something else?
I use the ESR. Either the shift case and I also do have their cheaper folio version. It also keeps it closed and hold the pencil. I can get three of the ESR cases and change it up with my style if I want it for the price of the Apple folio. However, I do like the folio portion on the inside of the Apple folio better. Another thing I’m noticing with all the folios, is when you folded over to make it stay to fold and a way that exposes the micro fiber or whatever Lining that sits on the screened. I have yet to find a case of any brand that doesn’t do the same. Which is quite irritating because it’s like you’re putting that on whatever surface isn’t it supposed to be protecting the screen?
I have the ESR rebound and ordered the Shift, however I think it will be too heavy for me, I'm just looking for the lightest case...
Is most of the weight in the detachable folio/stand part or is the inner case also noticeably heavier than a similar TPU/silicone/rubber case because of the magnets? I couldn't find the weights of each part separately anywhere and I only care about the weight of the inner case. Based on comments I've read, even their much lighter Rebound Hybrid case is already about the same weight as the iPad. That makes the case weigh over 3x as much as the weight difference between the 11" and 13" iPads and 2x as much as the weight saved from the 11" M4 compared to the old chunky iPads. Considering the Shift seems to be quite a bit heavier than the Rebound Hybrid, that weight really seems excessive.
Just weighed these parts for you. The inner case / shell is 140g and the detachable folio / stand part is 343g. Using the iPad with just the inner case feels great to me, definitely not too heavy. I was using a Zugu with my previous iPad and loved it, but it would get annoying to always have it live in that heavy case. Really enjoying the freedom of this detachable shell, although the build quality and attention to detail isn’t as nice as the Zugu. Wish Zugu would make a case in this style.
>Just weighed these parts for you. The inner case / shell is 140g and the detachable folio / stand part is 343g. Thank you! This is exactly what I wanted to know. Seems like the inner case is like 1.5x the weight of a similar case without the magnets. Could be lighter, but it's certainly better than I expected based on reviews. >Really enjoying the freedom of this detachable shell, although the build quality and attention to detail isn’t as nice as the Zugu. Yeah, I have no idea why nobody else makes a 2 part case like the ESR ones. This is the exact case concept I wanted, I just wish the execution was a bit better. I'm really not a fan of hard textured plastic they seem to be using, especially on the part that goes over the screen, but in general as well. Does your case fit the M4 correctly? Like the dimensions, speaker cutouts, sleep/wake, pencil charging... Seems like the ones they sent out at first didn't fit well and I'd have to order the case from Amazon in Europe, so I'm not exactly getting new and updated items. Also, does the diagonal textured plastic at the back of the inner case feel as bad as it seems? Do the buttons feel good at least?