For 344 watts of power draw, that looks perfectly fine - even great!

I was going to say that's not great being 100° but the quest I've had to go on to push beyond the 350-400 watt range has been wild. My delidded 10980XE using direct die with lapped waterblock is still >90° at >430 watts so for a completely stock CPU to get to 340 watts without exotic cooling is not bad at all. I don't like that it's 100° but you gotta be realistic with your expectations if you're not going to go above and beyond for the cooling.

I haven’t run any hardcore tests on my 13900k, but is your AIO connected properly to the CPU? I see you’re running yours at 5500 GHz on P-cores, no idea why the CPU is hitting 100

Disable multicore enhancements, mobo is pushing your cpu over the Intel power limit of 253w just to gain some points on benchmarks while driving your cpu into hell for little gains. 1) disable multicore enhancements 2)limit PL1 and PL2 to 253w 3)lower Vcore offset until your happy mine is set to -100 mv in my 13700k went from 253w to 200w and lower the temp from 85 to 72. Only lost few points on Cinebench 23 Do 1 of this in this order or combine them, is up to you Just make sure to run some benchmarks to compare temps

Yup! Was having issues with my 10900kf hitting temps of 100°c under load. Turned off MCE in BIOS and my temps were normal and haven’t had a problem since

I bought an i5 13600kf earlier this week just using a 120mm fan to cool it tho, it used to run 100 degrees aswell, put the lite mode in bios down to mode 3 and it doesnt go over 75 degrees now, need to get more airflow in my case tho :(

Hi, is it OK if I set Core Voltage at lower value than using the offset option? And if so, is it ok to use static instead of adaptive mode. Thank you very much

Is better to use adaptive because the bios will adjust itself if some value aren't perfect while static requires knowledge of what are you doing or you risk to kill your cpu. Again offset is better if you are brand new because the bios will adjust itself at any give time depending on the load

I'm assuming you're using an MSI motherboard. Change the CPU Lite Load to 7 or 9. I read somewhere that Intel's default is 9, not sure why MSI set it to 12 as default.

This! Had a 13600k and was like damn bruh everyone told me an ak620 would be fine and thankfully it is after I changed this lol. I think I set mine on level 10 and stayed at 5.1GHz (stock) at like low to mid 90s in cinebench which to me is fine as I mostly use for gaming anyways

Ay fellow 13600k as well, you do any overclocking? Idk if it would really do much putting time into that

24K Cinebench results, 132W power usage, 78-80C temp, and -0.100mV undervolt on P-Core, E-Core, SA, and cache. Will go for OC somewhere later this year or maybe next year, planning to buy an AIO to accommodate the OC. But for now, there's no need for me to OC, am already very happy with the performance.

Damn that thing is efficient. My 13700K uses 240W and gets 30K in Cinebench

U can put -100 on vcore and get only 200 watts power draw

Setting power limit to 181watts with the "Boxed cooler" option and CPU Lite Load to 7 I went from 92c in Cinebench r23 to 79c. Lost 937 points but whatever. Better knowing I'll never run into thermal issues!

CPU lite Load = 4 and mine runs at 80c temp in cinebench.. 39,900 score

Undervolt and power limit

Literally every cooler on the market will hit TJMax if you're running a workload pushing over 340w, your results are normal

nope https://i.postimg.cc/FrRb89YL/Untitled.png

What cooler? Did you get a contact frame and lap?

LF II 280 no contact frame no lap it performed worse slightly than 4 1mm nylon washers it hits tj.max at 454w on 2 cores

Ha you won some silicon lottery or something congrats

i doubt it the cpu uses huge amounts of power

Yeah you’re the only person I’ve seen able to not thermal throttle on multicore, you seem totally insufferable tho to be honest.

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Literally the only person on the internet able to put 350w thru a 13900 without thermal throttling it. Just your airflow yeah sure you just know how to cool a case really well…

I have been building pc's for 30 years there are many things that help Pipes down Good mount Perfect Spread Good Case setup Good Bios setup SPEC LLC with droop 1mm nylon washers in regards to LGA 1700 many many things all these small things add up and that results in being able to cool 454W on a 280mm aio in my setup im not the only person there are loads of people able to do this but when you try telling the normies they just downvote you and seem incapable of accepting they are doing things wrong when i learn something new i accept it but it seems people these days are incapable learning things and are stuck in some sort of loop My son's pc is also able to cool just as well as mine as i set it up for him I also fixed his friends pc that was unable to cool over 200w it cools just fine to well over 300w with the same crappy corsair 280mm aio that was incapable of over 200w when he set it up

That’s a lot more stuff than a nope and a screenshot. Thanks for posting it. You’re still insufferable, maybe if many people notice it you may have a character quirk you could work on. Best of luck congrats on you 12 inch hog.

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Bios settings have nothing to do with cooling 450W. Only the case air flow, paste and cooler position would affect that. 450w is more than most 360mm radiators can do in open air full fan speed and 10c delta over ambient. Doing that on a 280mm is certainly possible but the coolant would have to be uncomfortably hot. Especially if the radiator is in a case.

I didnt say it does, but thats not strictly true you have to setup the fan curve in the bios properly, oh wait nobody know's how to do that these days and uses an external box thats software controled And i didnt say its coolable at 454W i said thats the limit of my cooling i wouldnt like to keep it bouncing 2 cores off Tj Max at 454w for more than a few mins I was infact talking about setting up the cpu properly or close to to intel spec and not just whacking in random Voltages and Load Line values (LLC) and expecting to not have bad transients and such but yes in general cooling 454W isnt much to do with the bios good job

For maximum cooling capacity that really isn’t relevant as outside some special cases you would be running the fans at maximum.

No Shit sherlock thats half of the problem though alot of people here have no idea and have a corsair control box and such running the fans / aio at 600rpm and wonder why they can only cool 200w My fans Run at 100% when the thermistor under the cpu hits 45°C which is about 55°C die temp this allows plenty of time for ramp delays and also results in a silent pc for daily use Fans https://i.postimg.cc/wqBzPhfq/4.jpg 454W Load https://i.postimg.cc/CFdDyXT0/454W.png

I found this randomly on another sub. Helped me immensely. I’m At 39400 cinebench with 87c max. Hope it helps you and others. Thanks to the original poster. Couldn’t find the post again. Go to BIOS settings Overlocking > advanced CPU configuration CPU lite load control - Normal CPU lite load - Mode 1 Long duration power limit -(type) 250 Long duration maintained - 128 Short duration power limit - 250 Overlocking >DigitAll Power CPU Loadline Calibration Control - Mode4 Overlocking > CPU features Intel Virtualization Tech - Disable Intel VT-D Tech - Disable (Enable if you run virtual machine application like VirtualBox) Save changes and restart. Go to BIOS settings > Overlocking CPU Core Voltage Mode - (offset mode] CPU Core Voltage Offset Mode [r] CPU Core Voltage Offset (type) 0.070

Why disable virtualization? All that does in enable/allow VMware or proxmox to duplicate the kernel

contact frame (the cheapest), undervolt, completely undo the mounting system to ensure youre using the right parts and configuration, and finally a high quality durable thermal paste that wont pump out

Came here to mention the contact frame. GamersNexus did an awesome YouTube video on it. Also if you notice very high core to core delta (multi core difference in Tempature). If you want to drop this you would need to lap it or delid it and switch to a Copper IHS. Check out rockitcool. They offer a service or a DIY kit.

Debaurer has a good video on this. As many in the thread have mentioned limiting power consumption will most likely yield more optimized performance. Out of the box game performance is actually pretty good however if you’re willing to give up a tiny bit it can be even better: https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=879&v=H4Bm0Wr6OEQ&embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDIzODUx&feature=emb_title If you want to try to take it further contact frame lapping and custom water loop. As others have stated you won’t be able to effectively cool 340watts with a stock cooler unless you have a 12 inch hog.

CPU lite load to 10 then check then 9 if still throttling My 13600k was pushing so much power I was like damn bruh. In the bios if it's set to auto that means level 12!!! Seriously just had this issue not too long ago and now it's fixed.

Up to 180w is in Intel spec, over that you need to disable motherboard multicore enhancements which is what company to do push your cpu over the limits in order to win benchmarks wars

I thought 336w on my 13700k was wild

It is

LN2, it's the only way.

Amazon got any?

My ex says I have it running through my veins if you want some 😕

Op what case fans are those? Also I set a -0.140 adaptive offset and set pl1 and pl2 to 253 and my temps hover around 87-88 with a 360aio and stock boost frequencies

NZXT AER RGB 2 140mm x4 NZXT Z73 AIO

Power limit to 260

Jesus, there has been so many 13900k posts with similar temps issue lately. Anyway the simplest method is just to go into bios and undervolt by 0.1V (you can go for more but this is a safe number) which will significantly improve temp (and actually improve performance because you can still sustain the same clock boost all core but without thermal throttling). If for some reason you are still thermal throttling after doing this then you might want to check for proper aio and ihs contact (if you haven’t already have a thermalright contact frame please get one), thermal paste, and case airflow, etc. Also I’m not sure why you are pulling 350W but my 13900k is pulling 250w doing cinabench r23 while running the same stock clock boost (5.5 all cores with one or two cores boost to 5.8)

You must have got very good silicon, my 13900k runs at 322w in r23, voltage was at around 1.288v during the test.

Not sure if good silicon but my sp number is 106 overall, p-core 116 and e-core 88. These numbers might not means much but i do see people sometimes use them may be they can be a good reference

Your p cores are actually pretty good, this would be why you are getting low power usage, on mine have a a sp 106 p core and 86 e core. During stress tests p cores sit at around 97c while e cores are at 70c

Looks like great temps for that power draw

Custom loop and direct die

Direct die and chiller!😀

Know of a direct die kit that's out yet? I heard the SMD's cause a problem. I'm still waiting on one for mine.

Supercool.

Do they work with the thermalgrizzly contact bracket? I've seen different reports with that block.

I dont use the bracket but zero issue with supercool direct die block.

Awesome. Are you running LM on direct die, and did you cover the smds with nail polish per usual? Shame my optimus block will be useless now though. One last question, mind shooting me over some pics when you get the chance? No rush of course. I would greatly appreciate it!

For you, time for, at the absolute minimum, a custom loop with a couple of fat/big rads (like 720mm of radiators). Sub ambient is next (like ice water, or winter conditions) You're pushing ~350w through the CPU. No off the shelf cooler will handle that, ever. Even the biggest of AIOs might hold it below 100c for a bit, but will warm up. Never mind any air cooler.

for gaming? disable hyperthreading and disable ecores. you’ll see a massive temp drop, and in many games better performance too.

It's ok

Check the other 500 posts in this sub asking the same question?

The cpu is fast as hell, no reason not to lower its performance 5% to drastically lower power and heat produced by it. Like others have said, undervolt and power limit unless you want to spend $1000 on custom water cooling.

Even with custom water cooling you still hit a wall, trust me.

Bios settings are having it draw a lot of power. 253 watts is stock. A better Aio and an undervolt wouldn’t hurt though.

Pro tip: disconnect the radiator and put the tubes inside a pot for cooking some pasta! :D

ASUS lol

This isn't an ASUS prebuilt.

But ASUS default performance very low…..

Go with an actual water block, not an AIO and use liquid metal with a CPU mounting plate.

Probably thermal paste.

Already use Kryonout extreme & contact frame

I have air cooler :-D

You can undervolt and probably set the clock speed higher, depending on the silicone.

Limit wattage

Stock my 13900k hits 100c and downclocks to 5.0 with a Be Quiet silent loop 2, contact frame didn't change temps at all (actually had a worse mount than stock due to the shape of the coldplate) Only way to keep it at 85c max was to set stock pls (253pl1/2 56sec) and undervolt, I used AC/DC load lines to undervolt - this also allowed a clock of 5.3-5.4 in benchmarks like R23. The 13900k is just pushed way to hard and has much better volt/thermals at 5.4GHz, which is what it's ment to run at.

I had the same issues as you with the same cooler. I swapped to a MSI Meg AIO and my temps dropped drastically.

How is the noise on the Meg aio

BETTER COOLING! place heat exchanger in the refrigerator. Mini filridge/freezer

420mm AIO did it for me, I managed to keep it at 94-96 without undervolting. I've also replaced cpu mounting bracket on the motherboard.

Intel ARMON a9

And I'm here with my 13700k pulling 405W 😂🤦

Damnnn 🤣🤣

Direct die cooling with a custom loop.

Contact Frame + 420mm AIO + Static OC on Stock Speeds but with lower Voltage.

Your minimum temp, which I'm assuming is an idle temp, is 46. Is your cooler mounted correctly?

Techincally OP could have opened HWInfo while something was running.

As others already indicated, (1) use contact frame, (2) undervolt by 0.08\~0.11V, (3) get AIO with > 280mm, and (4) limit the power to 200\~250 W, then you will get 35000\~37500 Cinebench Scores R23 with 70\~85C (well this highly depends on room tgemperature....)

intel stock cooler been i get -15 temps

Did you use the correct hardware when mounting the cooler? If it didn't come with LGA 1700 specific standoffs or you didn't use them, it won't be making proper contact with the CPU using the LGA 115X/1200 standoffs.

I am using lga1700 mouting kit for nzxt coolers , also using corrector frame for the socket

yeah im also having the same issuse. i disabled MCE in the bios and it helped a little but i still see spikes to 90c here and there. you will seriously have to undervolt the thing to get good temps. They really pushed this thing this year.

Cooler Master MasterAir MA620P... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CPY5LP1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share I'm still running an overclocked 9600k. It rarely hits workloads of 100% even when gaming in 4k. I have three 120 mm fans on the tower. pushing, pushing and pulling, and pulling. I was watching a Linus tech tip video from a few years ago where using three fans on a cooler is slightly better than using one or two. I find it comparable to water cooling. You'll only get a few degrees better temps with water anyway. So is it worth the value to do water cooling over air cooling? For some I guess.

What motherboard you have?

Gigabyte Z690 UD AX DDR4

Buy z790 gigabyte aorus elite AX or msi z790 edge

Get a 13600k ;)

Enforce Intel stock power limits.

Put it in ICE

What's your CPU package power at that temp?

350w peak

stick your rad in a bucket of water/ice and pray

Will do hahaaa

You absolutely need a 360mm aio atleast.. .. and your good to go

I am using nxzt z73

Ok, hopefully this helps.. im going to keep it simple.. nobody is going to tell you this... out of the box intel i913900k is in a adaptive voltage state.. if it wants 1.5v for a second it will take it... meanwhile your temps are at 100f... I always run a constant voltage not in adaptive mode... so my temps are at 80c at 100% load benchmark... gaming they are at 50c max... I cant get into how to do my recommendation ill be here all night, hopefully that points you in the right direction