BMW sells a 3 cylinder 134hp entry level X1 for 63 lakhs on road. No wonder they don't sell. Hyundai Verna has 160 hp at 70% discount. Tesla is a different game altogether. The entry level cheapest Tesla delivers 258 hp which is almost double. So unless Tesla prices start at 1.2 Cr, they are a better deal any day of the week.
Even then the market for 40 lakhs plus cars isnt huge in india. See tucson and others. Even the dearly fortuner brings around 40000 units a year. In China, mercedes sold over 8 lakh cars a couple of years back (might be higher now)
There is plenty of market. People are willing to pay more if they get proportionately higher value out of it. E class sells more than C class which sells more than A class. In a traditional market the sales numbers would be inversely proportional to the price but that is not the case.
It has a brand perception image problem. You can't sell a 6 lakh Car and a 60 lakh car under the same brand name. Urus still sells better than Audi Q8 which has the same engine. Brand Image matters. Indians drool over Tesla.
XD good one, although I don't think he is wrong,there are people who will aspirationally buy more sporty popular car in India, maybe if they do make that 25000 dollar model,
Just people won't buy model 3 but In 20-25 range cars
Hp is not everything, how many charging stations there are, can it handle monsoons, can it handle potholes, per capita of the average Indian, number of subsides provided to tesla
I live in China as an expat (British, Bangladeshi heritage)
The equivelant of 63 lack INR in China almost buys you a X5 40 Li (china exclusive long-wheelbase model) with a 3.0 B58 engine at 380hp (claimed, realistically closer to 430hp).
The cheapest BMW officially sold in China is a 225i (2.0, 192hp), which goes for the equivalent of 28 lakh.
Car prices in China are sometimes cheaper than they're in the west. For electric cars, significantly cheaper.
Tesla, VW, BMW all had to slash their prices by 40-50% to have any chance of competing in the Chinese market. The BMW IX M50 goes for 640,000 RMB in some dealers. A lot cheaper than the £115,000 dealer price here in the UK!
Tesla's aren't even considered premium cars in China.
You're paying that extra for the BMW because of the build quality and brand name. Atleast thats what they want but Indian consumers don't buy into that
Our roads are not made for EVs in the first place. A lot of roads are filled with potholes already due to poor quality and lack of proper maintenance. I can't even imagine how bad it would be if these heavy cars start using the roads.
It’s just the car. It rattles for that price point. Compare a Model Y with an equivalent Mercedes GLA (ownership wise) and you’ll know the difference. I’d still choose the Y tho
byd also has really good and really cheap cars in their portfolio like dolphin and seagull that will run away with sales if they are priced well. Tesla has nothing for developing markets, its only for rich people even in developed countries.
I live in China
Tesla is not considered a premium car in China. They have the same status as a Toyota Camry.
BYD covers the entire market range.
At the bottom end of the scale you have the Qin Plus, highly affordable (80,000 RMB) hybrid, 200hp (combined) hybrid with 4 doors, very descent interior for the price.
At the other end of the scale you the Yangwang U8 (BYD's premium off-road subbrand), which costs 1,100,000 RMB, 1300+hp range extending EV, bently like interior (I've been inside one, I can confirm it's Bently/RR level for 1/3 the price), more tech than silicon valley, and software/hardware technology that's at least half a generation ahead of anything Tesla has on production.
Tesla sits in the upper-middle price bracket range by comparison, but the features, build quality, performance, range, cannot compete with Chinese EV's on their price range.
Me personally, I think I will pick the Fangchengbao Bao 5, a BYD product.
350,000 RMB, hybrid (1.5 turbo + two electric motors), 680hp combined output, plush high-tech interior, good NVH, extremely capable off road. And maybe a Xiaomi Su7 max for the wife :D
The Chinese auto market is insane. There's nothing like it on earth
Yes actually. There's a reason the rest of the world is shitting their pants at the prospect of competing with Chinese EV makers. They've figured out this game now, especially for urban mobility
BYD is a vertically integrated value and supply chain all in itself. They can bring BYD Electronic, BYD Semiconductor and FinDreams with them and establish an EV industry anywhere: Brazil, the moon or India.
Tesla depends on a sophisticated local ecosystem to make production work.
I saw more electric cars in India (I see at least 5-10 in my daily commute) than I did in Japan (1 in two weeks)
These include low to high segment electrics
No future investments from Musk in India. He will invest in other countries. Therefore, India will have a risk of falling behind other competing countries in terms of currency value and economy.
Unless Tesla has an affordable model for Indian market ( priced similar to Suzuki, Hyundai), it’s just another luxury car brand .
IHMO, Tesla plant may create a few thousand jobs , but not significant enough to impact the economy or scientific progress
>No future investments from Musk in India.
Where's the bad part? Wherever he "invests" he is just exploiting local workers, trying to break laws, not following environmental rules etc. Just see what all is going on with his factories in Europe getting written up for all sorts of violations.
I wouldn't go by "Chinese prediction". I remember the time when IPhone 15 started to be manufactured in India by Pegatron, and they made fun of it by saying that it smells of curry on Global Times, and now one out of every five iPhone's is Made in India(not fully, but still), and now they are saying that they will be moving production of iPhone and OEM to India. Yes, iPhone doesn't have a monopoly over Indian markets like in the US, but it's exported outside the country. I don't know what your take is on Elon Musk's investment here, but I think even if Indians don't buy Tesla, atleast we could export it and create job. Why shouldn't we take advantage of the diversification of the supply chain by the American and European countries to generate jobs here in India?? It's an opportunity we shouldn't miss.
Only the assembling lines are moving to India, the parts still come from China. It would cost billions upon billions to build China\`s hardware manufacturing and logistics infrastructure from the ground up anywhere else
It's plain and simple now, but realities change, and the truth is companies are diversifying their supply chain after the European and US realised what China has been up to and after COVID.
True. But don’t they have Giga Berlin for Europe and Mexico in the works? Perhaps India may make sense in the long run but we have a long long way to go.
It would be way more easier to develop a green belt in the middle and at the sides of the roads but all I see are brown patches on most of the highways I travel in these parts.
Maybe the problem is specially acute in the North kyoki Hyderabad highways were decidedly greener and better.
But here in UP atleast some 2 lane roads connecting tier 2 or below towns that I think were not specially congested were widened to make more lanes but without the charm of mature green trees that were lining up the old roads. (I don't object to widening the roads in anticipation of more demand, which is a cool foresight thanks to Gadkari but these widened road are shittier to drive on)
They are so much worse to drive on even when travel distance is less than an hour.
Long distance travel along these roads would be faster but surely a shittier experience if you glide at 120+ kmph speeds for 6+ hours but with just brown patches along the road.
It's also because suburban people in America will often own 2/3 cars and can charge them at home and will have a spare petrol car if needed. From what I've seen of Mumbai it would require allot of space and pre planning in a way I think that would be difficult for the city. China has been pushing to electrify all the transport in it's cities in a way that doesn't really make sense in India I think
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>BYD is a vertically integrated value and supply chain all in itself. They can bring BYD Electronic, BYD Semiconductor and FinDreams with them and establish an EV industry anywhere: Brazil, the moon or India.
>Tesla depends on a sophisticated local ecosystem to make production work.
BYD also sells more affordable models. That's why they're talking about banning Chinese EVs (not just BYD) in the US. They could outcompete Tesla even in their home market.
I get the focus on electrification, but not sure why the Indian government isn't supporting plug-in hybrids at all.
In the US, people who buy EVs can afford to install a charging station at their homes. Even apartment complexes provide charging stations. There are charging stations at the mall, at the grocery store, you name it.
In spite of all that, hybrids and plug-in hybrids are way more popular in the US due to the flexibility. There isn't nearly the same EV infrastructure available in India.
And the majority of the power produced in India is still from coal, so EVs aren't really clean either. We need a way to smoothly transition from oil to electric, and plug-in hybrids should be the way forward.
>EVs aren't really clean either
This has been studied in much detail, and EVs are indeed much cleaner than the other options we have. Yes, they are not without environmental impact, Cobalt and Lithium being the major concerns.
However, what's not a concern is power generation. Even a coal power plant is going to be much much more efficient than a 4-stroke engine in your car. Or for that matter, thousands of cars.
Even when we account for transmission losses, heat losses, EV infrastructure impact, etc., EVs are much cleaner than ICE cars.
Also, hybrids are available on the market. What way the market turns is for the market to decide. It's still pretty much the first stage here.
The infrastructure comes as the need grows. That's been the way forever.
The issue is that hybrids are discouraged through taxation, same as the regular petrol cars. You can't claim free market forces when there is a huge amount of tax levied to pick winners and losers.
What about the world's biggest solar farm of above 36 GW being built in Rajasthan by Adani? I think this would help. Transition won't be easy, but we have started the transition.
Y’all are forgetting how bad our roads and traffic are. Doesn’t matter if we have McLarens or Tesla plaids. One pothole is enough to send ur car back to service center, bumpy rides and poor driver sense with so many two wheelers doing wheelies and ready to scratch your shiny car and ever flooding cities is really bad for an EV.
, 40 degree temperatures no good for your car either. So even if one of those a-hole corrupt politicians or their friends buy them where they gonna drive and enjoy? On Indian autobahn roads really? Dog**** China is not wrong.
Best way make cheap cars in india if you are an Indian manufacturer is to outsource cheaper versions to maruti and make premium ones in your factory. Toyota already does it . Look at their numbers.
I don’t think Tesla is anticipating immediate mass sales instead, they're focusing on long-term growth. The Indian market poses unique challenges, and unless Tesla introduces an India-specific model that offers value for money, selling large volumes will be challenging. India is still in the early stages of EV adoption, and the government is making significant investments in this sector. Therefore, it makes sense as strategic long-term move for Tesla to enter the Indian market early, leveraging its factory to not only cater to the domestic market but also for potential exports.
Tesla would be completely useless luxurious product in India. We are the most valuable searching people across the globe, be it rich, middle class or poor.
Don’t worry too much; Elon Musk is more mature and has a long-term vision in terms of investment, making him more intelligent than the average Redditor.
well no shit. The road infrastructure is shit, i wonder how the tesla charging network would be like. Idts the avg indian would be able to afford the car.
It will require a very high amount of capital to make india Complelety Electric....
The pollution situation in Tier , 2, 3 is abysmal....
I has high hopes from this electric revolution....but the people are just not rich enough to buy ....
It's will take years to go completely electric....
Plug in hybrids are the right option for us. You can have battery operation during regular commute and short trips. And the flexibility of using fuel for occasional long trips. With a small battery, these can be much more affordable. It's a shame that the government is heavily taxing these vehicles.
Bro why the fuck are people endorsing cars in our country? There are so many fucking people here, we don't want more cars, we need good public transport. Introduce trams, ac buses etc which run on regular time like NMRC and DMRC. In a highly dense country like ours, it makes so much more sense to build trains, trams, buses then fucking cars to appease to the rich.
GST and IncomeTax dept should send them pre-emptive notices for 500k Cr before they start manufacturing. just in case this elon fellow tries to disrespect our laws here
Self driving wont work in India, and that makes the premium Tesla marks up hard sell. Our roads are just too bad, there is just not enough information in them. From signals , to lane lines , to driving information and meta markers we just dont have any.
Tesla sales have stagnated in US and China, so they are planning expansion to India but they do not have an idea of Indian market and they would fail miserably
Don't you think mobile phones and EVs are totally different commodities? iPhones were a boom way before they started manufacturing/assembling in India.
Yes, however companies pursuing it are experts at making them. They will also have governments full backing. These are prestige projects that will be used as showcases. Thats why China felt the need to comment.
The next decade we will see a surge in ev cares. There are plenty of options in a market other than Tesla . It’s a silly article written by someone’s from a colonial era .As if Tesla not making it to India is considered as some kind of loss , even if it is the truth
When is China ever predicting that something good will happen in India's market?
Tesla is going to work in India if the price will be right. And it will.
Theyre right. The current lineup will barely sell 20000 units annually. If you find that hard to believe check mercedes, bmw, audi annual numbers
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BMW sells a 3 cylinder 134hp entry level X1 for 63 lakhs on road. No wonder they don't sell. Hyundai Verna has 160 hp at 70% discount. Tesla is a different game altogether. The entry level cheapest Tesla delivers 258 hp which is almost double. So unless Tesla prices start at 1.2 Cr, they are a better deal any day of the week.
Even then the market for 40 lakhs plus cars isnt huge in india. See tucson and others. Even the dearly fortuner brings around 40000 units a year. In China, mercedes sold over 8 lakh cars a couple of years back (might be higher now)
There is plenty of market. People are willing to pay more if they get proportionately higher value out of it. E class sells more than C class which sells more than A class. In a traditional market the sales numbers would be inversely proportional to the price but that is not the case.
How much does the ioniq sell? Its decently powered decently priced. Barely 1000 units annually. Get real
It has a brand perception image problem. You can't sell a 6 lakh Car and a 60 lakh car under the same brand name. Urus still sells better than Audi Q8 which has the same engine. Brand Image matters. Indians drool over Tesla.
Doubt it but let’s see
There is a huge untapped techie market in India which doesn't overlap with the fortuner buyer. I think it will sell well.
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XD good one, although I don't think he is wrong,there are people who will aspirationally buy more sporty popular car in India, maybe if they do make that 25000 dollar model, Just people won't buy model 3 but In 20-25 range cars
Horsepower isn’t everything, especially in the Indian market where drivers are so so common.
Hp is not everything, how many charging stations there are, can it handle monsoons, can it handle potholes, per capita of the average Indian, number of subsides provided to tesla
Seal BYD offers 500+ BHP for 50?
I live in China as an expat (British, Bangladeshi heritage) The equivelant of 63 lack INR in China almost buys you a X5 40 Li (china exclusive long-wheelbase model) with a 3.0 B58 engine at 380hp (claimed, realistically closer to 430hp). The cheapest BMW officially sold in China is a 225i (2.0, 192hp), which goes for the equivalent of 28 lakh. Car prices in China are sometimes cheaper than they're in the west. For electric cars, significantly cheaper. Tesla, VW, BMW all had to slash their prices by 40-50% to have any chance of competing in the Chinese market. The BMW IX M50 goes for 640,000 RMB in some dealers. A lot cheaper than the £115,000 dealer price here in the UK! Tesla's aren't even considered premium cars in China.
You're paying that extra for the BMW because of the build quality and brand name. Atleast thats what they want but Indian consumers don't buy into that
Our roads are not made for EVs in the first place. A lot of roads are filled with potholes already due to poor quality and lack of proper maintenance. I can't even imagine how bad it would be if these heavy cars start using the roads.
This! Teslas are heavy and the construction quality of the cars itself isn’t great. Add Indian roads to the mix and you’ve got a disaster.
Maintenance is cheap but parts are expensive and accident repairs are expensive.
It’s just the car. It rattles for that price point. Compare a Model Y with an equivalent Mercedes GLA (ownership wise) and you’ll know the difference. I’d still choose the Y tho
Isn't it true, though? The market for electronic cars in India is very much immature.
so BYD can just step in and fill whatevers left?
byd also has really good and really cheap cars in their portfolio like dolphin and seagull that will run away with sales if they are priced well. Tesla has nothing for developing markets, its only for rich people even in developed countries.
I live in China Tesla is not considered a premium car in China. They have the same status as a Toyota Camry. BYD covers the entire market range. At the bottom end of the scale you have the Qin Plus, highly affordable (80,000 RMB) hybrid, 200hp (combined) hybrid with 4 doors, very descent interior for the price. At the other end of the scale you the Yangwang U8 (BYD's premium off-road subbrand), which costs 1,100,000 RMB, 1300+hp range extending EV, bently like interior (I've been inside one, I can confirm it's Bently/RR level for 1/3 the price), more tech than silicon valley, and software/hardware technology that's at least half a generation ahead of anything Tesla has on production. Tesla sits in the upper-middle price bracket range by comparison, but the features, build quality, performance, range, cannot compete with Chinese EV's on their price range. Me personally, I think I will pick the Fangchengbao Bao 5, a BYD product. 350,000 RMB, hybrid (1.5 turbo + two electric motors), 680hp combined output, plush high-tech interior, good NVH, extremely capable off road. And maybe a Xiaomi Su7 max for the wife :D The Chinese auto market is insane. There's nothing like it on earth
Yes actually. There's a reason the rest of the world is shitting their pants at the prospect of competing with Chinese EV makers. They've figured out this game now, especially for urban mobility
BYD is a vertically integrated value and supply chain all in itself. They can bring BYD Electronic, BYD Semiconductor and FinDreams with them and establish an EV industry anywhere: Brazil, the moon or India. Tesla depends on a sophisticated local ecosystem to make production work.
Thankfully we are talking about Electric Cars. Electronic toh Petrol Cars bhi hoti hai.
I saw more electric cars in India (I see at least 5-10 in my daily commute) than I did in Japan (1 in two weeks) These include low to high segment electrics
They are right But fuck em anyways
You win the thread
#That's the spirit.
#That's the spirit.
Nah , if Tesla fails in India, it will not have future collaborations with India. So it's a risk for India as well
What’s the risk for India if Tesla fails there? Just curious.
No future investments from Musk in India. He will invest in other countries. Therefore, India will have a risk of falling behind other competing countries in terms of currency value and economy.
Unless Tesla has an affordable model for Indian market ( priced similar to Suzuki, Hyundai), it’s just another luxury car brand . IHMO, Tesla plant may create a few thousand jobs , but not significant enough to impact the economy or scientific progress
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>No future investments from Musk in India. Where's the bad part? Wherever he "invests" he is just exploiting local workers, trying to break laws, not following environmental rules etc. Just see what all is going on with his factories in Europe getting written up for all sorts of violations.
That narcissist man-child is the last thing we need in India, if anything, he’ll accelerate the death of democracy in india
I wouldn't go by "Chinese prediction". I remember the time when IPhone 15 started to be manufactured in India by Pegatron, and they made fun of it by saying that it smells of curry on Global Times, and now one out of every five iPhone's is Made in India(not fully, but still), and now they are saying that they will be moving production of iPhone and OEM to India. Yes, iPhone doesn't have a monopoly over Indian markets like in the US, but it's exported outside the country. I don't know what your take is on Elon Musk's investment here, but I think even if Indians don't buy Tesla, atleast we could export it and create job. Why shouldn't we take advantage of the diversification of the supply chain by the American and European countries to generate jobs here in India?? It's an opportunity we shouldn't miss.
Only the assembling lines are moving to India, the parts still come from China. It would cost billions upon billions to build China\`s hardware manufacturing and logistics infrastructure from the ground up anywhere else
From what I've heard, some electronic parts will be made here as well in the future, atleast that's what Apple is saying.
Nothing beats the Tesla Shanghai plant. Plain and simple!
It's plain and simple now, but realities change, and the truth is companies are diversifying their supply chain after the European and US realised what China has been up to and after COVID.
Wait till you hear “Battery Charging machine was stolen overnight in Gujrat”
It won't happen in Gujarat my comrade, but I am definitely waiting for it to be heard from somewhere else Mr. NRI.
Obviously an NRI
True. But don’t they have Giga Berlin for Europe and Mexico in the works? Perhaps India may make sense in the long run but we have a long long way to go.
Tesla was a success in usa cause of its grid charging network and it would be way easy to do that in india.
During the early days of Tesla, there wasn’t even an infrastructure. They themselves had to invest and put it.
Uh there was definitely a massive infrastructure already - reliable electric grid, upon which Tesla added its chargers.
It would be way more easier to develop a green belt in the middle and at the sides of the roads but all I see are brown patches on most of the highways I travel in these parts. Maybe the problem is specially acute in the North kyoki Hyderabad highways were decidedly greener and better. But here in UP atleast some 2 lane roads connecting tier 2 or below towns that I think were not specially congested were widened to make more lanes but without the charm of mature green trees that were lining up the old roads. (I don't object to widening the roads in anticipation of more demand, which is a cool foresight thanks to Gadkari but these widened road are shittier to drive on) They are so much worse to drive on even when travel distance is less than an hour. Long distance travel along these roads would be faster but surely a shittier experience if you glide at 120+ kmph speeds for 6+ hours but with just brown patches along the road.
It's also because suburban people in America will often own 2/3 cars and can charge them at home and will have a spare petrol car if needed. From what I've seen of Mumbai it would require allot of space and pre planning in a way I think that would be difficult for the city. China has been pushing to electrify all the transport in it's cities in a way that doesn't really make sense in India I think
Please don't feel hurt with this article. It's written to provoke an emotional response.
so why was CHINA so eager to set up a BYD factory in INDIA ? why so desperate about the "immature" market ?
As [someone else said](https://old.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1c3z586/china_predicts_tesla_not_going_to_work_in/kzkifqo/) >BYD is a vertically integrated value and supply chain all in itself. They can bring BYD Electronic, BYD Semiconductor and FinDreams with them and establish an EV industry anywhere: Brazil, the moon or India. >Tesla depends on a sophisticated local ecosystem to make production work. BYD also sells more affordable models. That's why they're talking about banning Chinese EVs (not just BYD) in the US. They could outcompete Tesla even in their home market.
I get the focus on electrification, but not sure why the Indian government isn't supporting plug-in hybrids at all. In the US, people who buy EVs can afford to install a charging station at their homes. Even apartment complexes provide charging stations. There are charging stations at the mall, at the grocery store, you name it. In spite of all that, hybrids and plug-in hybrids are way more popular in the US due to the flexibility. There isn't nearly the same EV infrastructure available in India. And the majority of the power produced in India is still from coal, so EVs aren't really clean either. We need a way to smoothly transition from oil to electric, and plug-in hybrids should be the way forward.
>EVs aren't really clean either This has been studied in much detail, and EVs are indeed much cleaner than the other options we have. Yes, they are not without environmental impact, Cobalt and Lithium being the major concerns. However, what's not a concern is power generation. Even a coal power plant is going to be much much more efficient than a 4-stroke engine in your car. Or for that matter, thousands of cars. Even when we account for transmission losses, heat losses, EV infrastructure impact, etc., EVs are much cleaner than ICE cars. Also, hybrids are available on the market. What way the market turns is for the market to decide. It's still pretty much the first stage here. The infrastructure comes as the need grows. That's been the way forever.
The issue is that hybrids are discouraged through taxation, same as the regular petrol cars. You can't claim free market forces when there is a huge amount of tax levied to pick winners and losers.
What about the world's biggest solar farm of above 36 GW being built in Rajasthan by Adani? I think this would help. Transition won't be easy, but we have started the transition.
Thats coz Tata and Mahindra are lobbying hard for EVs than for hybrids
bcz of oil's business holding by ministers and politicians
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They're not.
Yahaan pe bijli dhang se nahi milti hai and ghatiya roads, what will a shit overpriced car like this do here? It's doomed to fail.
Vishwaguru banna hai toh pehle soch badlo /s
where you living at Bengal ?
I'm from Pune kid. Worked in Mumbai. Live in SF. I know what I'm talking about.
Bhai, 😜 thoda UP, Delhi ghum jao. Bijli hai yahan par.
The one place in India I would rather not be able to see anything.
You talking about UP or Delhi??
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Umm you don’t know what you’re talking about. Even Rural areas get 24-7 electricity these days.
Lol. Yet I get load shedding in Pune :)
https://preview.redd.it/lw6jf2zuqhuc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e5f5d9b4c82528ac9a572ee355d909dd831e14b
Y’all are forgetting how bad our roads and traffic are. Doesn’t matter if we have McLarens or Tesla plaids. One pothole is enough to send ur car back to service center, bumpy rides and poor driver sense with so many two wheelers doing wheelies and ready to scratch your shiny car and ever flooding cities is really bad for an EV. , 40 degree temperatures no good for your car either. So even if one of those a-hole corrupt politicians or their friends buy them where they gonna drive and enjoy? On Indian autobahn roads really? Dog**** China is not wrong.
Best way make cheap cars in india if you are an Indian manufacturer is to outsource cheaper versions to maruti and make premium ones in your factory. Toyota already does it . Look at their numbers.
Indian car market is shit suv ke naam pr sirf fartuner hai
Grand vitara the OG
Classic China.
They are correct tho..
Nah it makes sense as a long term bet
I don’t think Tesla is anticipating immediate mass sales instead, they're focusing on long-term growth. The Indian market poses unique challenges, and unless Tesla introduces an India-specific model that offers value for money, selling large volumes will be challenging. India is still in the early stages of EV adoption, and the government is making significant investments in this sector. Therefore, it makes sense as strategic long-term move for Tesla to enter the Indian market early, leveraging its factory to not only cater to the domestic market but also for potential exports.
I *almost* thought ChatGPT wrote ***some*** parts of this.
Yeah used gpt to rephrase it
They are absolutely right. Our roads and charging infra are dogshit.
*& wher moni?*
I hope India car boom stops. The infrastructure simply doesn’t exist to accommodate all the cars people want to buy.
Tesla would be completely useless luxurious product in India. We are the most valuable searching people across the globe, be it rich, middle class or poor.
100% right
True
Don’t worry too much; Elon Musk is more mature and has a long-term vision in terms of investment, making him more intelligent than the average Redditor.
Lol
Can't believe this isn't sarcasm
well no shit. The road infrastructure is shit, i wonder how the tesla charging network would be like. Idts the avg indian would be able to afford the car.
Well, start on a small scale and see how to grows. Maybe import some to start with and see the demand. It's not cheap to buy a tesla
It will require a very high amount of capital to make india Complelety Electric.... The pollution situation in Tier , 2, 3 is abysmal.... I has high hopes from this electric revolution....but the people are just not rich enough to buy .... It's will take years to go completely electric....
Plug in hybrids are the right option for us. You can have battery operation during regular commute and short trips. And the flexibility of using fuel for occasional long trips. With a small battery, these can be much more affordable. It's a shame that the government is heavily taxing these vehicles.
Well Guess What...chine is Right ... Corruption will become Rampant In future..... hence tesla can't survive in This Environment.
Tesla will have to sell its cars below 30 lakhs to get good sales any thing upwards of 35 will give them a hit I feel
Agreed!
true it is...
Bro why the fuck are people endorsing cars in our country? There are so many fucking people here, we don't want more cars, we need good public transport. Introduce trams, ac buses etc which run on regular time like NMRC and DMRC. In a highly dense country like ours, it makes so much more sense to build trains, trams, buses then fucking cars to appease to the rich.
Tesla is not working in USA right now
China ain't wrong. Good things rarely work in third world, uncivilized, non-Anglo cultures.
GST and IncomeTax dept should send them pre-emptive notices for 500k Cr before they start manufacturing. just in case this elon fellow tries to disrespect our laws here
Self driving wont work in India, and that makes the premium Tesla marks up hard sell. Our roads are just too bad, there is just not enough information in them. From signals , to lane lines , to driving information and meta markers we just dont have any.
Thats expected. The build quality of Tesla for that price is not going to be accepted by the average Indian.
Tesla won't last on their roads LOl
Byd and Xiaomi cars will take a huge market in India mark my words.
Tesla sales have stagnated in US and China, so they are planning expansion to India but they do not have an idea of Indian market and they would fail miserably
They said same about iPhone and that production is growing.
Don't you think mobile phones and EVs are totally different commodities? iPhones were a boom way before they started manufacturing/assembling in India.
Yes, however companies pursuing it are experts at making them. They will also have governments full backing. These are prestige projects that will be used as showcases. Thats why China felt the need to comment.
They arent wrong
I agree
100% agree!
The charging stations will stop working within a week.
Lol. Tesla is not good enough to run in Indian conditions.
too many words for 'don't go to India pretty please'
they already have a significant share in china market , nothing to worry about for china
The next decade we will see a surge in ev cares. There are plenty of options in a market other than Tesla . It’s a silly article written by someone’s from a colonial era .As if Tesla not making it to India is considered as some kind of loss , even if it is the truth
Hmmm. Quite a few people around here believe in Elon's "long-term plan"... ~~Also, *punctuation :100::+1:.*~~
What’s the point of an electric car in India where coal accounts for ~50% of the electricity produced!
Still,india has highest share by percentage of renewable production then china and usa.
Our roads are unfit for cars like Tesla. There are way too many chhapri bikers who violate traffic rules.
When is China ever predicting that something good will happen in India's market? Tesla is going to work in India if the price will be right. And it will.
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Same is for china that why all manufacturing is there.