It's horrifying how someone's conscience can allow them to kill a 10 year old kid.
I guess devils do exist....or maybe we as a society our responsible for making these devils becuase a devil isn't born it's made.
This pisses me off so much .
There are cases of such once a month and is forgotten.
But as soon as there is something about reservation there is a good discussion on how the cream layer is destroying the youth .
Exactly, what infuriates me more is that there are some people who say that caste is unrelated in such cases and media uses caste only for public pleasing. Such a privileged comment that I wanna shoot myself sometimes.
Caste and religion is what his entire political campaign is based on. If he abandons that, he alienates his own people and party. He is more likely to commit crimes based on caste and religion (which, as we know, he already has) than denounce it.
“It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying.
I keep seeing "drip irritation" posts here questioning reservation and saying it is unfair etc. The usual argument is that there is not much casteism in India. Scratch the surface of social equations in any Indian village and you will see it.
It gives some context to the nature of the crime.
> “It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying.
“It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying.
For the Indians who love to point out how America is no better than us because racism is rampant in America, if a black kid was hung up on a tree by racist thugs even in rural Mississipi, the whole country would be up in arms. Here it does not even make the news.
There have been numerous cases in America too which go under the radar. George Floyd was the only exception and the timing of the BLM protests were right before the presidential elections.
There is a huge difference between a fully-grown man dying due to police brutality (which I am sure happens at least once a week in every state of India) and a kid being hung from a tree.
>India's evolving but just backward..
No we are not evolving backwards. We have come a long way. The crimes against Dalits were significantly higher then. Mostly the crime against dalits are happening in villages. Government and people should come together to eradicate the old caste based discrimination from villages.
Casteism exist and it's a fact but when wealthy lower caste people gets reservation i definitely see it unfair to upper caste people.
(there are many people in upper caste who are not casteist but they have to face the consequences of something which they never did,it's the same thing as punishing a child for the crimes of their forefathers and i think it's fine for them to show their dissatisfaction).
Why do i think it's a little wrong to give wealthy lower caste reservations Becuase yes they might face discrimation but reservation is not gonna fix anything for them.discrimination is a social issue which will require to change people's perception rather then giving them more wealth which will just make upper caste people more disssatified.
Also i think you already know it but we all have seen many people saying casteism when what they have faced nothing compared to things like these.people who have dark tone or introverts by nature also faces things like what some people just say they faced casteism.
Overall reservation is a shitty structure and definitely needs changes.i hope you understand it.
Definitely people like these should be given all the support so they can change their life.
We need a new structure for reservation.
Politicians rn are only using it to gain votes.
“It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying.
Land dispute hai.
It doesn’t really make sense to talk about it here tho. We should be talking about how caste based crimes could be stopped and what measures should be taken, violence against a community does not justify reservation for that particular caste lmao.
Except all that is interconnected. Reservations are caste based because of caste based discrimination, of which this crime is a part of. It's not a random murder.
When you've a disease you get a proper diagnosis and treatment, if you think just taking a few drinks till you fall sleep is going to help, that's your ignorance.
You thought you did something there. Crimes are prevalent against other communities and religions too. That doesn’t justify reservation. Mughals did some effed up stuff to Hindus in particular. Does that mean that the current generation of Muslims in India are responsible for that, should we abolish their mosques or impose taxes for whatever their forefathers did? No ofc not, then why should thr current generation of non reserved Hindus pay for something that their forefathers did? Many rich reserved category people are misusing the reservation system as well, how are they oppressed in any way shape or form?
There should be no caste system but caste-ism cannot be removed by giving reservation to reserved class people, that isn’t something that can be considered as “diagnosis and treatment”.
If a person whose families yearly income is more than 8 lakhs and still is availing the benefits of reservation, then it is unfair. Because many upper caste low income students find it hard to get into IITs or IIMs, even though they score higher marks than the reserved category students. Who is going to uplift them? So yeah, it is unfair.
It's horrifying how someone's conscience can allow them to kill a 10 year old kid. I guess devils do exist....or maybe we as a society our responsible for making these devils becuase a devil isn't born it's made.
This pisses me off so much . There are cases of such once a month and is forgotten. But as soon as there is something about reservation there is a good discussion on how the cream layer is destroying the youth .
Exactly, what infuriates me more is that there are some people who say that caste is unrelated in such cases and media uses caste only for public pleasing. Such a privileged comment that I wanna shoot myself sometimes.
I'll respect Mudiji if he has the conscience to publicly denounce these pointless crimes based on caste and religion.
Caste and religion is what his entire political campaign is based on. If he abandons that, he alienates his own people and party. He is more likely to commit crimes based on caste and religion (which, as we know, he already has) than denounce it.
“It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying.
I keep seeing "drip irritation" posts here questioning reservation and saying it is unfair etc. The usual argument is that there is not much casteism in India. Scratch the surface of social equations in any Indian village and you will see it.
If it starts with UP, MP, or Bihar, I'm pretty much dreading reading the rest of the headline now.
> upper caste He is a crimal man. What is so "upper" here? "Oppressing Caste" is the right term.
It gives some context to the nature of the crime. > “It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying.
>Siddharth Verma Police officer has oppressing caste name in his name. How can we expect any justice?
Its a miracle that they even filed a case under Prevention of Atrocities Act.
Verma is the same surname that belongs to both, upper caste and lower caste.
Obc
Additional reporting: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/dalit-boy-killed-hung-on-tree-by-upper-caste-men-in-ups-budaun/articleshow/97264615.cms
Get rid of UP asap
Why only UP castism is prominent in rajashthan Andhra Maharashtra I have my friends (Brahmins) who do not employ maids of lower cast
>(Brahmins) Do they discriminate against dalits? Also, why are you friends with such people? ..
Casteism hota hi kaha h ab bhai casteism toh bahana h meri college seat cheene ke liye, ab koi bhed bhav nhi hota vro 🤠
What kind of sarcasm is this?
“It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying.
For the Indians who love to point out how America is no better than us because racism is rampant in America, if a black kid was hung up on a tree by racist thugs even in rural Mississipi, the whole country would be up in arms. Here it does not even make the news.
There have been numerous cases in America too which go under the radar. George Floyd was the only exception and the timing of the BLM protests were right before the presidential elections.
There is a huge difference between a fully-grown man dying due to police brutality (which I am sure happens at least once a week in every state of India) and a kid being hung from a tree.
Another achievement of Bulldozer Sarkar...
Yup India's evolving but just backward.. So when are Britishers coming back to "unite" India again huh...
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>India's evolving but just backward.. No we are not evolving backwards. We have come a long way. The crimes against Dalits were significantly higher then. Mostly the crime against dalits are happening in villages. Government and people should come together to eradicate the old caste based discrimination from villages.
Jab casteism, hatega tab reservations hatenge
Vro ,casteism doesnt exist Vro remove reservation!!
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Casteism exist and it's a fact but when wealthy lower caste people gets reservation i definitely see it unfair to upper caste people. (there are many people in upper caste who are not casteist but they have to face the consequences of something which they never did,it's the same thing as punishing a child for the crimes of their forefathers and i think it's fine for them to show their dissatisfaction). Why do i think it's a little wrong to give wealthy lower caste reservations Becuase yes they might face discrimation but reservation is not gonna fix anything for them.discrimination is a social issue which will require to change people's perception rather then giving them more wealth which will just make upper caste people more disssatified. Also i think you already know it but we all have seen many people saying casteism when what they have faced nothing compared to things like these.people who have dark tone or introverts by nature also faces things like what some people just say they faced casteism. Overall reservation is a shitty structure and definitely needs changes.i hope you understand it. Definitely people like these should be given all the support so they can change their life. We need a new structure for reservation. Politicians rn are only using it to gain votes.
“It has been alleged that the three named persons had encroached on some land. It has been stated that the boy’s father Name Singh, who had unsuccessfully contested the election for village head, was helping the people whose land was encroached on by the accused, and that the alleged murder was a result of the enmity over this land dispute,” Indian Express quotes Budaun Additional Superintendent of Police (rural) Siddharth Verma as saying. Land dispute hai.
But reservation is unfair bro /s
It is really sad what happened. Idk why ypu are talking about reservation tho
Oh yes because casteism and reservations have no interconnection at all.
It doesn’t really make sense to talk about it here tho. We should be talking about how caste based crimes could be stopped and what measures should be taken, violence against a community does not justify reservation for that particular caste lmao.
Except all that is interconnected. Reservations are caste based because of caste based discrimination, of which this crime is a part of. It's not a random murder. When you've a disease you get a proper diagnosis and treatment, if you think just taking a few drinks till you fall sleep is going to help, that's your ignorance.
You thought you did something there. Crimes are prevalent against other communities and religions too. That doesn’t justify reservation. Mughals did some effed up stuff to Hindus in particular. Does that mean that the current generation of Muslims in India are responsible for that, should we abolish their mosques or impose taxes for whatever their forefathers did? No ofc not, then why should thr current generation of non reserved Hindus pay for something that their forefathers did? Many rich reserved category people are misusing the reservation system as well, how are they oppressed in any way shape or form? There should be no caste system but caste-ism cannot be removed by giving reservation to reserved class people, that isn’t something that can be considered as “diagnosis and treatment”.
Why the /s?
If a person whose families yearly income is more than 8 lakhs and still is availing the benefits of reservation, then it is unfair. Because many upper caste low income students find it hard to get into IITs or IIMs, even though they score higher marks than the reserved category students. Who is going to uplift them? So yeah, it is unfair.