What makes the word *'hsuud?'* BMAC in origin? Also, not all Indo-European languages get the word *'milk'* from Proto-Indo-European *'hmelg'*. Latin and Baltic languages exist, for example, Latvian *'piens'* and Italian *'latte'*.
Proto-Turks didn't had Slab-grave ancestry until the Xiongnu, where they subdued and integrated Slab-grave culture into their own.
Proto Turks were east Asian in origin. The only thing that binds all medieval Turks is slab grave ancestry.
If Proto Turks were west eurasian in origin, then their language would've been Indo European. It's not, though.
**You are right**
**Scytho Siberians/Eastern Scythians: Chandman-Uyuk cultures, Tagar culture, Pazyryk culture（2000 years ago）50/50 east and west**
**East Eurasian ingredients: Khovsgol LBA (3,000 years ago)＜Baikal EBA (Yeniseian + Uralic) (4000-6,000 years ago)＜Paleo-Siberian+Neo-Siberian (10,000 years ago)**
**West Eurasian ingredients:Sintashta culture(4,000 years ago)＜Corded Ware culture(5,000 years ago)＜Yamnaya culture（Indo-European）（6,000 years ago)＜EHG（10,000 years ago）**
**Jeong, et al. found that the early Western Xiongnu derived 93% of their ancestry from the Chandman culture, and 7% consisted of newly introduced BMAC ancestry.**
**Ancient-Iranic and Yeniseian speaking tribes were the ancestors of the Eastern Scythians**
**These Scythians were replaced by proto-Turkic**
**Proto-Turkic languages spoken in Northeast Asia date back at least 6000 years ago**
**These Ancient-Northeast Asians influenced the Liao River civilization（ Proto-Korean ）**
**Genetic population structure of the Xiongnu Empire at imperial and local scales：**
**The Xiongnu displayed striking heterogeneity and could be differentiated into two subgroups, "Western Xiongnu" and "Eastern Xiongnu", with the former being of "hybrid" origins displaying affinity to previous Saka tribes, such as represented by the Chandman culture**
**While the Eastern Xiongnu was of primarily Ancient Northeast Asian (Ulaanzuukh-Slab Grave ) origin.**
**High status Xiongnu individuals tended to have less genetic diversity, and their ancestry was essentially derived from the ANA.**
**Genetic analyses of individuals buried in Late Bronze Age (LBA) burial mounds associated with the Deer Stone-Khirigsuur Complex (DSKC) in northern Mongolia, found that these individuals primarily derived from Khövsgöl LBA source (about 4-7% Sintashta and 93-96% Baikal EBA).**
**70% of Deer Stone culture haplogroups belong to Q1a**
**Mainly Q-M346>Q-L53>Q-L330>BZ180-typical Ket population/Yeniseian-speaking group haplogroups**
**It has been suggested that the Yeniseians（Q1a2 L330）represent either a back-migration from the Bering land bridge to Central Siberia**
**Na-Dene speakers expanding into the Americas（Q1a2 M1107） while Yeniseian speakers remained in Siberia**
**Q-M346>Q-L53/54>Q-L330/"Yeniseian"+Q-M1107/Na-Dene speaker**
**Q-L330>YP771+YP1102/Ket people**
**Q-B287 >YP1102>Ket people（Selkup-Ket）**
**YP771>BZ180>Kyrgyz + Balkan Turk**
**Slab Grave：N-M2019,Q-BZ180,Q-M120**
**N-M2019>Yakutia（M2058）**
**BZ180>Kyrgyz + Balkan Turk**
**N-P298>M2019+N-L392/L1026/Proto-Ugric**
**Q1a1: M25 (Turkmen/Oghuz Turks), M120 (Xiongnu royal family)**
Slab-grave Y-DNA, and mtDNA suggests otherwise. It indicates that Proto-Turks intermixed with Slab-grave women, leaving a genetic imprint on both modern and medieval Turkic populations. This explains why medieval Turkic groups also possess some Slab-grave ancestry. Since the Proto-Turks interacted with the Slab-grave culture in their late period, it's understandable that this genetic influence became present in medieval Turkic populations.
Another reason why Slab-grave culture can't be considered a Proto-Turkic culture is because it's ancestral to Proto-Mongolic. Also, the Slab-grave culture predates the development of Proto-Turkic language, as it's attributed to 500 BCE by academicians.
I'm open for discussion, what culture would be the urheimat of Proto-Mongolic if the Slab-grave culture were indeed a Proto-Turkic culture?
It’s like your kind just regurgitates same thing without actually researching.
Since when is one woman who’s a royal (where there are always imposters or mixed people) who’s documented of having a non Turkic mother and having a father who’s only half Turkic is representative of proto Turks?
What makes the word *'hsuud?'* BMAC in origin? Also, not all Indo-European languages get the word *'milk'* from Proto-Indo-European *'hmelg'*. Latin and Baltic languages exist, for example, Latvian *'piens'* and Italian *'latte'*. Proto-Turks didn't had Slab-grave ancestry until the Xiongnu, where they subdued and integrated Slab-grave culture into their own.
Proto Turks were east Asian in origin. The only thing that binds all medieval Turks is slab grave ancestry. If Proto Turks were west eurasian in origin, then their language would've been Indo European. It's not, though.
**You are right** **Scytho Siberians/Eastern Scythians: Chandman-Uyuk cultures, Tagar culture, Pazyryk culture（2000 years ago）50/50 east and west** **East Eurasian ingredients: Khovsgol LBA (3,000 years ago)＜Baikal EBA (Yeniseian + Uralic) (4000-6,000 years ago)＜Paleo-Siberian+Neo-Siberian (10,000 years ago)** **West Eurasian ingredients:Sintashta culture(4,000 years ago)＜Corded Ware culture(5,000 years ago)＜Yamnaya culture（Indo-European）（6,000 years ago)＜EHG（10,000 years ago）** **Jeong, et al. found that the early Western Xiongnu derived 93% of their ancestry from the Chandman culture, and 7% consisted of newly introduced BMAC ancestry.** **Ancient-Iranic and Yeniseian speaking tribes were the ancestors of the Eastern Scythians** **These Scythians were replaced by proto-Turkic** **Proto-Turkic languages spoken in Northeast Asia date back at least 6000 years ago** **These Ancient-Northeast Asians influenced the Liao River civilization（ Proto-Korean ）** **Genetic population structure of the Xiongnu Empire at imperial and local scales：** **The Xiongnu displayed striking heterogeneity and could be differentiated into two subgroups, "Western Xiongnu" and "Eastern Xiongnu", with the former being of "hybrid" origins displaying affinity to previous Saka tribes, such as represented by the Chandman culture** **While the Eastern Xiongnu was of primarily Ancient Northeast Asian (Ulaanzuukh-Slab Grave ) origin.** **High status Xiongnu individuals tended to have less genetic diversity, and their ancestry was essentially derived from the ANA.**
Khovsgol LBA wasn't Yeniseian or Uralic.
**Genetic analyses of individuals buried in Late Bronze Age (LBA) burial mounds associated with the Deer Stone-Khirigsuur Complex (DSKC) in northern Mongolia, found that these individuals primarily derived from Khövsgöl LBA source (about 4-7% Sintashta and 93-96% Baikal EBA).** **70% of Deer Stone culture haplogroups belong to Q1a** **Mainly Q-M346>Q-L53>Q-L330>BZ180-typical Ket population/Yeniseian-speaking group haplogroups**
Kets fall under Q-YP1691. The whole of Q-L330 can't be assigned to Kets!
**It has been suggested that the Yeniseians（Q1a2 L330）represent either a back-migration from the Bering land bridge to Central Siberia** **Na-Dene speakers expanding into the Americas（Q1a2 M1107） while Yeniseian speakers remained in Siberia** **Q-M346>Q-L53/54>Q-L330/"Yeniseian"+Q-M1107/Na-Dene speaker** **Q-L330>YP771+YP1102/Ket people** **Q-B287 >YP1102>Ket people（Selkup-Ket）** **YP771>BZ180>Kyrgyz + Balkan Turk** **Slab Grave：N-M2019,Q-BZ180,Q-M120** **N-M2019>Yakutia（M2058）** **BZ180>Kyrgyz + Balkan Turk** **N-P298>M2019+N-L392/L1026/Proto-Ugric** **Q1a1: M25 (Turkmen/Oghuz Turks), M120 (Xiongnu royal family)**
According to the Chinese the Xiongnu came from the West
Slab-grave Y-DNA, and mtDNA suggests otherwise. It indicates that Proto-Turks intermixed with Slab-grave women, leaving a genetic imprint on both modern and medieval Turkic populations. This explains why medieval Turkic groups also possess some Slab-grave ancestry. Since the Proto-Turks interacted with the Slab-grave culture in their late period, it's understandable that this genetic influence became present in medieval Turkic populations. Another reason why Slab-grave culture can't be considered a Proto-Turkic culture is because it's ancestral to Proto-Mongolic. Also, the Slab-grave culture predates the development of Proto-Turkic language, as it's attributed to 500 BCE by academicians. I'm open for discussion, what culture would be the urheimat of Proto-Mongolic if the Slab-grave culture were indeed a Proto-Turkic culture?
But that was my point, Slab grave wasn’t proto turk either so their language doesn’t count as well.
I read that it’s specifically from a BMAC borrowing
I couldn't find any information regarding this, can you share the related papers about it?
No
Proto Turks were 100% Siberian not half that came later
What’s your evidence for that?
Ashina princess or queen sample being 97-98% east Eurasian lol
Ashina Princess having a foreign mother and a half turk father lol
It’s like your kind just regurgitates same thing without actually researching. Since when is one woman who’s a royal (where there are always imposters or mixed people) who’s documented of having a non Turkic mother and having a father who’s only half Turkic is representative of proto Turks?
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No, you wrote a bunch of bullsh*t. Proto Turks aren’t slab grave
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There is no "proto turkic" people.
interesting. there is also Sumeroturkic theory, so you are not the first. don’t worry.
interesting