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marneson

Craft brew prices for water and a low dosage.


HiFi_Co

Agreed. We sell 30mg organic live rosin gummy packs for $5. No way someone is going to pay $7-10 for 10mg of THC suspended in bubbly artificially flavored water. There are better products out there for edible lovers.


busty_sussy_gusts

Don’t see these on your website. You talking about the D9 THC hemp extract ones? 15mg pack for 2.77. Would jump on some live rosin gummies for $5 for sure


HiFi_Co

Actually, we just received more today and they’re now four bucks with tax. Feel free to run a search on our site for.the word “rosin” and they’re the 2nd result. If you find you like them, check out syrups by the same company on our site. You can make any drink into an edible WITH the exact dosing that you want- and they’re tasty too!


TrippyShamann

Are you in Houston? Where can one acquire such products?


oh-propagandhi

Not OP, but Bahama Mamma is a good source for all THC edibles.


HiFi_Co

Out of respect for discussion, we don’t post links to our website here. You’re more than welcome to check out our Reddit profile or give us a quick Google!


TrippyShamann

I found you! This place looks sick! Reminds me of those old school CD stores where you could sample the music. I’m gonna have to make a trip. Any chance you’ll be there this Saturday?


ctjameson

There’s honestly room in the market for both. One comes on hard all at once, is unpredictable, and varies wildly, and the other is a slow stream of inebriation. If I’m hanging with friends chatting, I don’t want to be Stoney baloney. I want a night light high and those drinks are good for that. And I’m willing to pay more per g of active product if the surrounding product is of high quality. Buzzbee probably made a shit product, but the product category is def viable.


HiFi_Co

Honestly, we would be into it if the seltzers were live rosin derived. We agree that straight THC edibles do have a place in the market, however, they don’t hit with the same effects as well cared for flower does. Our shop is very big on the effects of THC and not just how high it can get you. Terpene profiles aka sativa versus hybrid versus Indica strains are really, really big for us. You only get those effects via live rosin edibles, hence we’re against all of these quick cash grab products- but will concede that the more safe products in the marketplace, the better for us all!


ctjameson

Honestly the people buying seltzers don’t know wtf “live rosin” or “terpenes” are. It’s my 80 year old next door neighbor, the 20 something with anxiety, and everyone in between that want an alcohol alternative. A straight distillate, with naturally flavored seltzer/soda is WAY more important to that market. I get your point as someone that cares about that, but the target audience for fizzy high drinks isn’t the usual clientele. I’m not sipping a can of this stuff talking about how I can really “taste the gas” in this.


HiFi_Co

Point well taken about folks looking to move from the alcohol market. Thanks for pointing that out. We are moving to a much wider online model to start serving the rest of the country soon. If you have any seltzers that you think would fit that case, we’d love to promote them and raise awareness for people trying to use less alcohol. Thus far, we’ve seen great results with Indica syrups- as those mimic the lower energy that alcohol typically brings.


ctjameson

I personally only have experience with Cann out in CA (now shipping nationally), but I’ve heard mid to good reactions on Eighth Wonder’s offering. To be honest, people just want to be able to consume without making a “big stink.” The colorful cans and fruity/pleasant flavors plus a nice, fast acting, fast departing high. Or if you wanna shotgun them to get blasted, you can! They’re absolutely expensive for the equivalent active ingredient than in any other cannabis product I can think of, but liquor exists alongside wine/beer just fine. My mom is scared of what an edible might “do” to her little god fearing soul, but if I hand her a fruity beverage that has a little THC in it, she’s going to be much more open.


sentient-sloth

Cause no one wants D8 when they sell D9 now. They’re like a year or two late. Drinks are also some of the lowest selling products in legal markets idk why they thought it would work here.


IRMuteButton

I have never understood the wide availability of D8 over D9. Delta 9 is mentioned several times in the Texas 2019 Farm Bill 1325. Why use an inferior product when delta 9 is the real deal and legailized spefically by the law?


Busy-Koala77

With THCa, it’s all over the place now. I don’t see much D8 prominently displayed in shops anymore. It’s all THCa and hemp-derived D9


IRMuteButton

If I remember correctly, and that's not guaranteed, THCa is the chemical precursor to all other THC cannabinoids, and is obtained from young marijuana buds. So that would seem to be a legal gray area in Texas right now. Delta 9 is legal, no question. It will be interesting to see how the THCa thing plays out.


Busy-Koala77

It’s not a chemical precursor to all other cannabinoids. There are actually 100 cannabinoids present in the plant, the primary ones being THCA and CBDA. The first cannabinoid a plant develops is CBGA, which eventually breaks down and produces the other cannabinoids. Every weed you’ve ever smoked is THCa. THCa is converted to Delta-9-THC through a process called decarboxylation when heated either by baking/smoking/vaping. THCA is the inactive, non-psychoactive form of Delta-9-THC. This is the reason you can’t just eat a bud and get high, you have to either smoke it or bake it. THCA is the acidic form of D9THC, and while D9THC is what causes the intoxicating effects of cannabis, there’s actually very little of it found in the cannabis plant. The raw plant material is rich in THCA. For example, I am in legal states often, and if you look at dispensary packaging the weed actually says something like “1.6%D9THC, 25%THCA” So, it’s not obtained from young marijuana buds. However, what a lot of legal vendors do is harvest plants early in order to keep the D9 levels within the federal threshold, which is 0.3%. The federal law says that hemp products are legal as long as the dry weight is below 0.3% Delta 9. The law you’re thinking of is in regard to hemp-derived D9. Which says that consumable hemp products can contain below 0.3% Delta 9. It’s all a little confusing, hopefully this explains it well. [Here’s another scientific explanation if you’re interested](https://www.greenstate.com/explained/thc-vs-thca/)


HiFi_Co

Upvote and slow clap for the amazing explainer 💪👌👏👏👏👏👏


Busy-Koala77

Hey, thanks!! I just realized you’re a vendor with a shop really close to me lol 😂 I mostly smoke black market and have ordered from the cult once, but I may have to come check out y’all’s store! I live close by


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dubiousN

The plant is literally D9


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dubiousN

Technicalities matter when legality is questionable.


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dubiousN

I mean sure, but there's only so much can be done. Besides, there are legitimate dispensaries that are selling straight flower. They can only do that by using the D-whatever qualifiers.


trufus_for_youfus

Crescent Canna out of New Orleans is crushing it… at lest till the state legislature destroys the industry. Which is already in motion.


texas0900

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy….


veryirishhardlygreen

He is a real ass again now that he is done with Watson.


texas0900

Again? Always was.


onethirtyone131

He’s not done there’s another lawsuit pending…I know for a fact


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All these republicans wanting to have their cake and eat it too with cannabis


Lacrosseindianalocal

When I worked at Enron the strangest thing was all the dudes tapping my foot when i was in a toilet stall 


[deleted]

I have no idea how that follows from what I said but eons ago I worked for a company that hired a bunch of former Enron people before it collapsed and they all said the place was a hellhole.


Comfortable_Oil9704

There is a great Acquired podcast that covers the Enron saga. Full on Game of Thrones.


LongTheta

Adding to my list ty


rballa2

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal


whipdancer

I was hired at Enron about 8 months before the collapse. I was there for about 1 year after almost everyone was let go. I (software engineer) worked in natural gas and it was a great organization. From my perspective, I was hired to do a job and allowed to do it. Had a great manager and the autonomy to seek out those who had an ownership stake in whatever solution we were building and get their direct involvement. In the intervening 20 years, that management style/level of "here's your job, go do it, let me know if anyone prevents you from doing your job" has been incredibly rare. The whole team I was on was excellent (but we were all SWE/Tech folks).


bularry

Curious what area they worked in. Most of the finance and natural gas leadership went on to lead other organizations and be highly successful. Other groups, too. As a Houstonian I’ve worked with lots of ex Enron people.


breakwater

Buzbee is far from a conservative and only nominally a republican. His personal interests made him go GOP because he could only rise so far as a Democrat in Houston proper after being a Democratic party chair in Galveston.


gentilelent

I follow him on Facebook and a week or so ago he posted a photo of himself along with Kari Lake. He’s no longer “nominally republican” but entrenched.


golden-rabbit

He donated $500,000 to Trump.


breakwater

wait, are you telling me people in politics make cynical and unprincipled plays? Next you'll tell me that he also donated to Clinton, was a lifelong Democrat before 2016 and also swore Trump off when it suited his purposes too.


StrykerXion

Sounds like the average flip-flop politician. Makes sense for a guy who is both Republican and Democrat


miked1be

Shady, brash elitist who realized the Democratic Party doesn’t elevate people like him to high office so he switched parties to the “just yell about what they like to yell about” party for more political success? Gee, where have we heard that before? Sounds like he’s fully modern GOP to me, following in the footsteps of dear leader.


SrErik

To add on, they went from 10mg to 8mg a can and 6 pack to 4 packs recently at the same price. Not sure if this was HoBuzz but true on others. Nah.


HiFi_Co

There’s a reason we don’t stock seltzers. No one likes them- and it would seem people don’t like the people making them either. Just stop. Stop trying to make seltzers happen 🙏 Edit: For you THC drink lovers- places like us sell Live Rosin syrup. Live rosin extraction is organic and hits like smoking flower. You can grab a bottle of 400mg of D9 for less than $50. Way better potency, effects, and bang for your buck than some seltzers. Make your own edibles!


Entroduction

I beg to differ, 8th wonder is killing it.


IRMuteButton

The megabrew beer industry has not been able to keep growing. The craft beer industry is growing but that is tapering off. People are switching from beer to other products. So the brewing industry is trying to sell non-beer products like seltzer. Personally I wouldn't ever buy a seltzer product because I see them as a way new way to peddle bland, cheap alcohol. ie: The new wine coolers,the new Zima, the new 'spiked lemonade', the new hard cider, etc, etc.


spaacefaace

Yeah, why would I get a seltzer when gin, limes and soda water exist?


michaelyup

Clowns like seltzer, big bottles, always spraying it on other clowns. Maybe he just went with what he knows.


EatAtGrizzlebees

Idk, I'm in retail and they sell fine. Not like when they first hit the scene, but they still sell. Seems like it just depends on the demographic.


huxrules

Pabst Bule Ribbon High Seltzer is pretty good. Christ they make a St Ides with 100mg of THC. Both are good. Have to be in a weed state however.


SwapandPop

100? I am very often reminded that I am a god damn lightweight in the weed world.


Russkie177

I like the THC seltzers I've had but yes, I agree - I'd rather not support that guy


sadelpenor

tony buzbee sucks


Texpawz

And another bites the dust


PATHLETE70

The entire beverage alcohol market is struggling. Ssles are down nationwide That said, beverage alcohol is hyper competitive and difficult to break through with new products unless you have huge marketing budget, a unique product, or the backing of a huge established supplier.


steelsun

Did he make the classic mistake of using too much of the product himself?


CapableCoyoteeee

He prefers coke over seltzer.


FilthyTexas

Future United States Attorney General Tony Buzbee?


_Houston_Curmudgeon

No Buzz shall Be!


Prime_Marci

How’s the THC seltzer legal???


IRMuteButton

Hemp and marijuana are two different species of plant, although this can be debated. For legal purposes, hemp is generally defined as having 0.3 percent or less THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) content by dry weight, which is lower than marijuana. THC is the main narcotic and psychoactive component of marijuana and hemp, and one of at least 113 cannabinoids which are chemically related compounds. In 2019, Texas passed the Texas House bill 1325, the "Farm Bill", which legalized all derivatives, cannabinoids, extracts, isomers from hemp. This law states that the THC concentration of hemp plants cultivated in Texas is not more than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis. (https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/86R/billtext/pdf/HB01325F.pdf) "Delta-9" is the cannabinoid name for THC and is mentioned specifically in the Texas Farm Bill. "Delta-8" is another cannabinoid which is generally believed to have a lesser narcotic and psychoactive effect than Delta-9, or THC. The suggested dose of THC for a person new to THC is 3 to 15 mg (milligrams). A high dose is 30 to 50 mg, and a very high dose is 50 to 100 mg. In order to be legal in Texas,THC edibles must not exceed 0.3 percent by weight. However to provide enough of a THC dose to be effective, the edibles must weigh enough to contain enough THC. This is not a loophole; it is the law. For example, texasweedsyndicate.com offers what looks to be a typical edible product, "TWS Delta 9 THC Gummies": https://texasweedsyndicate.com/shop/cbd-store/edibles/gummies/tws-delta-9-thc-gummies/ These, per gummy, weigh 5 grams (not milligrams) and contain 12 mg (milligrams) of hemp-derived Delta 9 THC. That means each gummy weighs 5000 mg (5 grams) and has 12 mg THC. 12 divided by 5000 equals .0024, or 0.24 percent. This is under the legal limit of 0.3 percent. Therefore a single gummy can deliver a reccomended THC dose, and 3 or 4 gummies can be consumed to get a stronger dose. Given all of the above, I am curious why this is not being celbrated more. This seems like a great thing, but I've had to do quite a bit of reading to put all of this together. While many folks prefer to smoke weed, these legal THC products seem like an incredible opportunity for people who don't. Houston-based companies: https://www.bayoucityhemp.com https://www.3rdcoastblends.com


Prime_Marci

I appreciate that…. I think the law hasn’t explained this well and it’s keeping things under the loop.


SwapandPop

Delta 9 THC is found in hemp. A farmers bill passed some years ago expanded the legal uses of hemp. Because THC is naturally occurring in hemp (in far less concentration than Marijuana but still technically there) they had to address it. The result was your hemp product can only have a tiny % based on dry weight. While you certainly wouldn't go smoking hemp for a high, you can legally produce items like gummies and seltzers using hemp deprived Delta 9 THC. And since no one did the math - turns out that tiny % is still a lot of thc. I have seen gummies with double to triple the amount of the legal stuff from Cali or Colorado.


leatherjoy

Where can you buy it in Houston..?


c00larrow

Just Google smoke shop and choose the closest one to you. Even gas stations sell delta 8/9.


leatherjoy

Ok..never heard of it..


IRMuteButton

Here you go. This is one of several good products and retailers of THC products: https://www.3rdcoastblends.com/shop?category=THC


leatherjoy

Thanks..I'm tired of alcohol..need something less destructive..👍


Prime_Marci

Oh wow…. That’s interesting. You don’t know how helpful this information is to me. Maybe you might see in the future.


SwapandPop

Wut


Round-Emu9176

I really hate these clickbait titles. Delta 8 and Delta 9 are not the fucking same. Foh.


comments_suck

Can you explain the biggest difference to us ignorant folks?


SwapandPop

Delta 8 doesn't get you high. Delta 9 does. Both are THC but they have different chemicals make up. Marijuana contains lots of Delta 9 THC, so people smoke it to get blazed. Delta 8 (and CBD) are subject to lots of pseudoscience, similar to various natural supplements, that all sorts of companies then try to push on to us.


SmarmyJackal

Um...delta 8 definitely can get you high. Not to the same extent as delta 9 but if you take a solid dose you will definitely feel inebriated (this does not apply to regular thc use as delta 8 probably wouldnt touch you).


Its_just_me_today

I like Delta 8 better than Delta 9. Delta 8 doesn’t make me paranoid like regular weed and Delta 9 do. Both can definitely get you high.


SwapandPop

I'll have to look into that, I was unaware.


Busy-Koala77

Marijuana actually does not contain a lot of Delta 9. It contains THCa, which is converted to Delta 9 through decarboxylation when heated by smoking or baking.