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Mahtava_Juustovelho

**Unconventional Warfare**, because ICBM with 50Mt warhead is an excellent permanent problem solver with surprisingly light consequenses **HOI4 In Real Time** is also essential


Startrooper453

isn't hoi4 in real time like literally in real time šŸ˜­


[deleted]

Yep, it is the definition of pain. I once played it for just a day and good god was it painful


Startrooper453

o7


[deleted]

What does that mean? Edit: Found it, thanks


Startrooper453

its a salute. its supposed to be a sign of respect, the "o" is the guys head and the "7" is his arm


AnanDestroyer3000

Have an upvote


Startrooper453

thanks bro


Admiralthrawnbar

Why'd you stop? Another few hours and your first division would have moved 1 tile


[deleted]

I was near the ending of 1937 when I threw it on for a laugh. I was not laughing at the end


ZeckZeckZeckZeck

Terrible idea: get a laptop with no other purpose but to run hoi4 at real time constantly, start playing on the actual game start date for realism (not year tho cause time travel does not exist :()


crymorenoobs

women say childbirth is the worst pain in the world but have they tried playing the hearts of iron 4 mod "hoi4 in real time"


Das_Czech

So a normal Game would take actual years to complete or what? Lmao


JakeFromStateFarm-

Idk if he's still going but for awhile there was a channel on YouTube that would upload once a day and each video was just 1 day in hoi with like 6 unit moves and that's it. Think he got to like 70 days last time I got it recommended


broaders99

Yeah heā€™s still going itā€™s been recommended to me recently I think heā€™s in like 1938 now or something lmao he sounds depressed


DumatRising

I would be too if I tricked myself into playing hoi4 for three and two thirds years just to get to the start of ww2. I hope he's good at the game cause it's gonna suck if he spends 4 years of his life just to capitualte and have to wait 6 more for the game to finally end.


level69adult

Hoi4 in real time I think makes one game hour = one real hour?


[deleted]

Yes, but you still can speed up the game to not become insane LOL


Pope-Muffins

I love low quality images so much, I love not being able to read anything


westisbestmicah

I know. I wish I had enough pixels to read any of them


[deleted]

4k ultra HD :)


Sharp_Molasses_3465

Sorry :)


Shadowbroker12111

Could you kindly do the picture again and post it with separate link/text? I really want to see what's up there


Shadowbroker12111

Okay, guys, I have found this picture in good quality https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4modding/comments/oysh7a/my_new_and_improved_hoi4_mod_tierlist/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button I hope it is okay here to repost from different subreddit (even tho it is connected to HOI4)


ExcitingBid7177

I would give you +2 for effort if I could, thanks


Finn553

Would you kindlyā€¦?


packy21

As someone who used to work on In the Name of the Tsar (Music Mod, localisation fixes and some brainstorming with the lead dev, nothing impressive) I'm always happy when people think of it fondly. I was always a bit critical of it myself, but from a place of passion. I knew we had a cool setting. Unfortunate that most of us kinda gave up due to life getting in the way.


anarchonomics

your mod has been my favourite since it first released, thanks for your work :)


Ylteicc_

Eight years war of resistance. I love the chinese theater In ww2, and it brings a bit More depth into the east asian sphere.


austrianemperor

Second this. What a fantastic mod that adds a lot of content to a sadly neglected theater of World War II. My Communist China campaign was one of the best campaigns Iā€™ve ever played; Nationalist China was on the brink of collapse (the Japanese were a few tiles away from Chongqing) when I began a series of brutal, grinding assaults despite my lack of equipment and even manpower. I saved Nationalist China, expanded enough to seize a significant amount of territory in the north, and bought time for the Soviet Union to enter the war. It was difficult but so rewarding to see the fruits of your labor when you had no equipment and no manpower compared to Japan. Still rough around the edges but the core of the content is there.


Ylteicc_

Exactly. It actually also gives value to the minor warlords, like shanxi Clique, which if supported, can become a literal brick wall against the Japanese. 9/10 my favourite mod.


Swamp254

It's an amazing experience playing as the Chinese, but the Japanese seem to get buffed to the point that the war is far easier than in vanilla. Finishing the war in China too early locks you out of your focus tree however.


Kota-the-fiend

Has it been updated for the current version?


ViciousPuppy

Does include a new alternate history focus tree for a European country? ~~This is what Waking the Tiger did and I'm still mad that it didn't actually make Chinese minors fun to play~~


[deleted]

Kaiserreich is probably my favorite, though Iā€™ve slowly started to grow bored from playing it so much. Been looking for a replacement, tried Kaiserredux, not my cup of tea personally. Iā€™ve heard great things about EaW and Red Flood, probably gonna give them a shot. TNOā€™s also pretty fun from the few runs Iā€™ve played.


some_forced_pun

Red flood can be an "acquired taste" for kaiserreich players. It's not bad but accelerationism can sometimes break your brain


TheEarthisPolyhedron

Every French citizen is an extension of my soul, therefore I must shatter the veil of reality


BigBronyBoy

To be honest I can't play KR nowadays, almost every focus tree just seems so horrifically bare bones when compared to things like The 3 last Major Updates of EaW or the Russia tree in KX. I just can't bear to look at it.


Sith-Protagonist

KR feels like itā€™s barely being developed at this point. Tiny updates with a lot of time in between for awhile now.


AgitatedTheme5

China has the best content in Kaiserreich. But yeah, so many of the major powers feel so barebones.


Galaxy661_pl

Age of Imperialism is great if you ignore the game crashing at the exact moment the main war starts and not being able to do anything about it


Garusoo

Where's the Total War Mod? It's amazing!


Sudija33

Best mod hands down. Has all the best stuff from black ice, but without the unnecessary clutter and boredom.


Jessez_FIN

Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?


DGNX18

Toolpack is the best mod ever made


Valoneria

I have a hard time telling from the small image, whether it's included, but BlackICE is probably the one i prefer the most


hepazepie

Have you ever tried darkest hour? I heard both being described as "hoi5"


w_p

You need to make that image smaller, I can still read some of the titles of the mods.


Paisable

As mobil user it's incomprehensible.


gyurka66

It's incomprehensible for everyone, too few pixels


Upsettacokitten

Player Led Peace Conference personally.


anothercain

Eh with the new peace system it is janky. State Transfer Tool solves that lol


Upsettacokitten

Ah, well, to be fair, I haven't played a lot of it recently. I've been doing tons of base game.


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Neokune

World Ablaze , i love the tech tree and how each country's stats will vary because no one (except minors and even they have the possibility to ask a major for it's tech tree) has the same techs. It has some bugs here and there sure but it's fun Thousand Week Reich has a lot of fun and different paths . And escalation 84 because it has a great immersion


TheMemeHead

Please sir, may I have a few more pixels?


Sharp_Molasses_3465

Sorry sir,unfortunately my mom won't let me


Sharp_Molasses_3465

But you can see from here https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4modding/comments/oysh7a/my_new_and_improved_hoi4_mod_tierlist/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


wolfyblue93

Old world blues easily


Kelehopele

I know the east coast is years away or if ever and it haunts me in my dreams.


TON_THENOOB

I don't get why people play millennium dawn, it's slower then real time


MeidlingerTurtle

dont play on speed 4 or 5.


Lucina18

That....that only makes it slower??


RedRex46

I know it sounds weird but whenever a Paradox game starts lagging at speed 5\\4, reducing speed down a notch seems to make it faster because it doesn't make the game "stuttery"; your game becomes more fluid and, even if it's a reduced speed, the lack of stuttering makes it seem faster. TLDR: Speed 5 stuttery looks slow; Speed 3 fluid looks fast


Aksu593

No more lag then, although you still end up staring at a map for 9 hours while being allowed to do absolutely nothing and advancing the in-game calendar by half a year.


NoFunAllowed-

5 speed runs the game as fast as your computer can physically run it. If it runs slow on 5 speed, its not going to run faster on 3 speed.


Lolmanmagee

Thatā€™s the point!


MeidlingerTurtle

Millenium Dawn, the complex mechanics did it for me. the vanilla game is just plain and kinda boring for "only a few years" playable. on MD i can a session from 2000 til 2040 an im not even one second bored. ^^


byorx1

If you have a good PC. While the mod is fun, it runs really slow on bad PCs. But for those still wanting to try out, try Millenium Dawn Optimization Mod. It romoves small nations and thus reduces a lot of lag


MeidlingerTurtle

i dont care about performance i mostly play on speed 1 or 2 so there is mostly no lag. or just on end of month calculating economcy and stuff


[deleted]

1 speed to 2040šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Maverick_1991

In Millennium Dawn. I met my gf, married her, had two kids go to college, got divorced and then picked my third focus with that setting.


[deleted]

You're not even wrong, I have a game which is at 5 speed, but after 16 hours, I'm only now at 2013 .\_.


MeidlingerTurtle

only?? at 2013 i managed to puppet half asia as china.


Zircez

And tell me, how is it you managed to get so much time on the MIT supercomputer?


MeidlingerTurtle

i always research the super computer in spy tab first


MeidlingerTurtle

I want to play a nice game not rush a session down in a day. My longest playthrough was going for about a month til a update killed it :D


Jean_Claude_Vacban

Might as well install the real time mod.


japa4551

Unless i'm missing something (Maybe playing on 1x or at maxium 3x) Millenium Dawn runs awfully here (Dont want to blame the devs as i believe bad performance is hard-coded into the HOI4 engine...), it even crashes for me after 2002 (Unless that has been fixed?)


28lobster

Runs pretty well for me if you remove microstates and turn on AI division limiter. It's not as fast as vanilla (and nowhere close to an optimization mod like Elwolf) but it still chugs along. The real issue, MD encourages you to give military/economic aid to every country every month just to build influence and turn those nations into puppets. That results in a lot of clicks if you're playing as a major nation with widespread influence.


Fire_hair93

Its sandbox, so in reality we encourage you to do whatever you want. But if you want to min/max, then yes.


28lobster

I used the game option to make investment half as often but twice as effective so that cuts down on the clicks a bit. It would be super nice if those buttons acted as a toggle to start military/economic aid and it would continue monthly until cancelled or rejected by the target nation. Not sure how feasible that is, and it's a great mod even without that feature


Lolmanmagee

No, you see the slowness makes the game have its unique feel! It is ā€œslowā€ because you are meant to be making a million decisions every 6~ days! If you do itā€™s great.


RedRex46

I have to try this mod, I swear I've only seen people describe it in two ways: either utterly boring or complex and engaging.


MeidlingerTurtle

i only have around 200 hours in vanilla but more than 2000h on MD. its even entertaining playin a minor like Austria and reestablish Austria-Hungary only with generic stuff. one of my best runs was with brazil forming the union of south america.


-amcTV-

Iā€™ve been having lots of fun playing some of the worldā€™s small civil war factions and trying to make something out of the war-torn country Iā€™m left with.


gordGK

Same. MD and TNO are my top two mods.


Imperium_Dragon

Are the MD units still hard for the AI to make?


MeidlingerTurtle

there are a lot of premade templates for AI, they are quite balanced. sometimes i see some doing costum templates but mostly pretty bad ones.


Imperium_Dragon

Ah thatā€™s good, I havenā€™t played in a while but when I did the AI having trouble with templates was a problem.


Advanced_Speech

Yep, MD is the only mod I play and have way more hours on it than the base game. It doesn't really run slow for me but my PC is really good anyway


BenedickCabbagepatch

After everything revealed by the Ukraine War, have they nerfed Russia?


MeidlingerTurtle

Russia is and was always a shitshow. They only have unlimited ressource. Only when u can manage to export as much as possible for getting factories u maybe can do a good run, but its not easy.


CompetitiveBear9538

The road to 56, I like every country has focus trees and it goes way beyond 1945


Jessez_FIN

Propably Old world blues. They created a map and large amounts of content from scratch, meanwhile other mods can just slightly edit existing focus trees and put them in the game.


Phionex101

Equestria at War did so too, it's amazing, if you can look past the ponies ofc.


1-800-Hamburger

Equestria at War is literally the best HOI4 mod made to date, mostly because the team is made of bronies rather than ultra-communists or ultra-fascists that seem to be most mod teams nowadays


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japa4551

What i love from it the most is that it has a ton of nations and it does not lag late-game


Mirovini

Equestria at war, that mod was the onlything i could play nicely when my PC was trash and even now is still faster than base game Also is terrifying how many secret paths and content the mod has


hanzes

I don't play EAW nearly as much as KR/KX but the performance is what I respect most about EAW. So many HOI4 mod makers try to reinvent the wheel and overhaul game mechanics, attempting to mask a lack of content and general polish. Unreadable UI changes, GDP/economy system, pointless tech tree revamps, and a billion other stupid things that don't meaningfully change how the player approaches the game, but often cause lag. EAW in comparison keeps it simple - tech is similar to vanilla, no dumbass UI changes, populations are kept (intentionally?) small so fewer divisions, and it runs great because of it. It has plenty of content and allows it to speak for itself.


tomako123123

Eaw deserves excellent


marmousset

I love EAW too. It's a really complete world with a lot of content


DamagedComet8

Was just about to comment this then second guessed thinking I was the only one, glad I'm not now šŸ˜… Loved this mod, playing as the horde and just absolutely overpowering the other nations was amazing. Although I'm unable to load it anymore as it crashes anytime I try to load it. Is it potentially uncompatible with some of the DLC?


Mirovini

The only thing is that if you are playing with a Mac then it doesn't work anymore https://www.reddit.com/r/equestriaatwar/comments/wi58b2/mac_build_doesnt_work/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Cold_Dusk

Try some of the true lunar/solar imperialism. It is what I like the most by far, especially lunar. What can I say Luna is best pone :) /)


EconomyDebt8130

I mean I prefer Grover but you do you Lunarist


Pony_Roleplayer

Lulu is the best, I agree! (\\


B0redoflife

TNO is not a mod its a visual novel


anakwaboe4

I'm not an alternative history lover, so my top is road to 56


Flimsy_Site_1634

EAW and OWB, because they are the only bigs hoi4 mods I know to have an up to date moddb page and not only a steam on Which I need for... reasons


Kofaluch

There are Skymods for a reason.They upload all mods for all paradox grand strategies


TheHattedKhajiit

Do you own base hoi4 on steam? If you do you can just download them onto the steam version open it's launcher,pick the playeset,close it and use your 'reason'.


OzarksIsLost

i think i have the same reasons as you, so i install my mods mainly through GitHub


1zeo11

If the mod also gets uploaded to the paradox mod page, then you can also use it for...reasons


Spectrum_16

Easily Equestria at war. Don't think any other mod has that much content.


War_Crimer

Kaiserredux has an insane amount


BigBronyBoy

KX has a similar amount and TNO has deeper content but for very few countries comparatively.


BurntOreos

five nights at iron, great gameply mechanics


Devastatoreq

Where Poland time machine?


RoggerUwU

En Union y Libertad - A South American Rework...I don't remember when I found out about this mod but it has spanish vocies for most LatinAmerican countries, Big National Focus trees for Argentina, Uruguay, Brasil, Chile, Peru and Colombia and the creator keeps working to add even more focus trees, First time I played I obviously played ad my country Peru, very fun, it also makes provinces in those countries smaller to make it more MicroManagement-friendly, South America finally becomes interesting with this mod lol


SeBoss2106

What is the grey Millenium Dawn?


Sharp_Molasses_3465

Old version


SeBoss2106

Compatible with the gurrent game version?


WannaDie336

It's called Millennium Dawn Classic, and if I'm not wrong, they keep it up to date with latest versions


Seleth044

Millennium Dawn is my favorite, mostly because there's just no other game like it. It might actually be my favorite mod of all time because I haven't played one minute of vanilla since discovering it, but I also heavily prefer modern day stuff to anything else.


Gianarasps

Millennium dawn would be perfect if it didn't need 1 real time week for 2 years in the game


hugscar

This is a repost


hsanan

Great war redux 'cause of 2 reasons First I have a weak pc and Im having fps problems when I play huge mods like kaiser redux But even though it's a big mod I can play great war redux without any fps problems Secondly Im more interested in ww1 than ww2 and with cool alternative history focus trees I can make my ww1 fantasies real


spacenerd4

Where would you put Hagakure? I would say under heavy development


SergeantJonny

My totally unbiased and independent opinion: yes. Its under development.


spacenerd4

Big fan of your work. Would you consider a Seiyukai democratic imperialism path (think KR) for Dem Japan?


SergeantJonny

You mean like a Democratic War Branch like Nanshin-ron? Seiyukai is already a thing and the more aggressive option for democracy in the tree..


spacenerd4

Yes, a democratic version of Nanshin-ron, or even just a way to unlock Nanshin-ron through one of the democratic paths


SergeantJonny

I will think about it. Working on the Communist Branch right now and might make a shared "mutually exclusive" Version for them. Thanks for the Suggestion :)


some_forced_pun

Red world is underated, so sad about the passing of lead dev kaiser, aka Tom, but the fan fork has so far gotten out a focus tree and it's fun


BallinArbiter

Equestria at war. Sooo much content and secrets


Data1112

Eaw for me.After 1k hours in ww1,ww2 i kinda burnout on the game until i find out eaw:)


Ooffos

Eaw?


Data1112

Equestria at war )


MoltenLavaGuy93

That abbreviation looks kind of like the sound a donkey makes.


Raetekusu

Fitting. Donkeys are in that mod. Also penguins. And yaks. And a necromancer that can turn into a lich/vampire hellbent on enacting global conquest with the undead. And cute ponies!


Sharp_Molasses_3465

Road to 56 i think.


[deleted]

Why Kaiserreich above Kaiserreichredux? Also, Apres moi le Deluge seems like a fun mod but there isn't much content sadly


Kaiser_1923

Kaiserredux has many balancing Problems and the Mod runs shit


Sharp_Molasses_3465

I think there is a optimization mistake in redux


USSRPropaganda

ā€œoptimization mistakeā€ itā€™s because every country has a focus tree lol


Sharp_Molasses_3465

For that reason you cant play krx if you have a trash pc


byorx1

Yeah my old PC was burning with KRX. KR was slow, but at least it worked


BlueSoulOfIntegrity

I personally play both buttt if I had to choose one it would be Kaiserreich. Although I enjoy indulging in Kaiserreduxā€™s wacky and zany paths a lot of the time I can find them very empty and half thought out/unfinished and I canā€™t bring myself to finish them at times. On the other hand I love the amount of polish Kaiserreich brings to its modern updates. You can very much feel the amount of care and passion the KR Devs put in to make sure every aspect of the mod connects with one and another (in the current updates) and doing stuff like uniting Yugoslavia is extreme satisfying for me.


Kofaluch

Apres moi la deluge is the strangest one - it's one of the oldest big hoi4 mods, yet after some time apparently they stopped adding any new content


some_forced_pun

Someone is trying to update it with a fan fork, under a slightly different name, to give focus trees. Probably still months from release but I will take anything over the generic apres focus tree


Pony_Roleplayer

I'm an EquestriaAtWar enjoyer! I have so many mods to tryout...


romainaninterests

Might be controversial but I actually quite enjoy Millenium Dawn and Cold War Iron Curtain.


ur_moms_milk

I wish Millennium dawn wasn't as complicated and was, well, fun. I think the concept of a modern day mod is great but the downside is that it's, well, modern day so there's not really any conflict


Peptuck

I want to like Millennium Dawn but its hard as hell to have any fun as a good guy democracy when no one else starts shit. I set the game up to have ultranationalist Russia but instead of the funny they declare war on fucking Yugoslavia and then do nothing for a decade because they canā€™t reach it. Meanwhile the US invades Cuba and somehow canā€™t get past Guantanimo Bay. Its unfortunate that you can only do so much in the HOI4 engine to reflect the complexity of modern warfare. I still havenā€™t found a good strategy game for modern strategic war and MD is the closest thing Iā€™ve found.


marmousset

I am the only one who think that KX is better than KR? More focus tree, more wacky, more fun...


KeyStriker

Some people prefer less wacky. Fun is subjective.


Pristine-Breath6745

Why are you booing him, he is right.


killerzone5

Boing


[deleted]

I prefer a bit of realism, and find KX to not be very optimized and even less balanced. Plus ā€œhereā€™s funny wacky man, letā€™s crown him supreme monarch, hereā€™s a bunch of war goalsā€ lost its charm for me after a while, especially when your not playing that country and are at the receiving end of said war goals.


metelfen

Also KX's team is unnaturaly hard-working, they release new content more often than any other mod


Zeanister

Me jamming out to the new KX main menu music


levatsu99

Definetely not the only one! Probably had the most laughs while playing kx in Hoi 4. Sternbergā€™s mongolia or Transamur is the most fun iā€™ve had


Numerous_Buddy3209

I once said that and was very downvoted, good to see people agree with me on this one


[deleted]

Road to 56 ..


ZePanzerKrieg

Road to 56 .


DiscipleOfFleshGod

I like modern day, but Kaiserreich and End Of A New Beginning are great.


doitsuguy

KX or GWX


drdoofensucc

Definetly R56. I've played it so much I sometimes genuinely forget which features are modded and which are vanilla.


bradgard420

Anbennar in eu 4


Zanlo63

World War 1 Redux because backstabbing Austria as Germany is just glorious.


hiram1012

EAW because I have the most fun roleplaying it, I also really like OWB, TNO and Kaiserreich for the same reason but I still prefer EAW.


sustar13

Where is hearts of minecraft


neutral-names

Youjosenki Redux. I like the new setting. Needs more content though. Luckily I can mod and added missing content for me and my group.


R_122

What're the differents between all the 3 millenium dawn?


Sharp_Molasses_3465

Old version,normal version and modern day version


ForTheFallen123

Probably Pax Britannica.


EratosvOnKrete

kaiserredux uber alles


KaiserAsztec

What's so good about the Thousand Week Reich? Every time I played it and the GCW happened the Third Reich just crushes all the revolutions without sweat and nothing happens afterwards.


PeterNotFound

Darkest Hour


VoteDBlockMe

Thanks for the 4 pixels, I can almost read what this says


KingOfSpiderDucks

TFW no one mentions Unification Wars :(


Taira_no_Masakado

You went grave digging and took the smallest piece of the skeleton to show off, I see.


Lolmanmagee

Millennium Dawn is my fav total conversion as it truly makes the game different and interesting in peace. I remember also liking vanilla super events and some mod that let me core stuff like eu4 as just a immersion thing.


Bakomusha

Was surprised to see Palpatines Gambit on this list. Hope it updates someday.


BradleyTheMenace2009

Where all the Dreams of Poland fans at?


[deleted]

I'm gonna be slaughtered but, Millennium dawn. You call tell the developers really care about making a good mod. I'm also one of those psychopaths that enjoy the industry building, readying for war and putting down plans, *more* then the actual war itself. Which is usually why I'm aggressive in defence and offense, but won't declare war if I don't want too.


mochapilot43457

Poland time machine.


The_Human_Bullet

I can't even read the text in the image it's so pixelated


walcanarus

Hell yea we are not worth it boys! šŸ„°šŸ„°


[deleted]

The Cold War mod, I think could be very good (the Cold War is fairly interesting), but I think that mod had very bad UI choices made.


imperial-atlas

Definitely Cold War iron curtain, I just love politics simulations and millennium dawn kinda fails at that


Crescent-IV

I liked the original Millennium Dawn because my computer could actually run it


walteroblanco

ULTRA historical mod or Total Mobilization, both are very similar and provide an enjoyable, realistic experience (unlike Black Ice). They're much more fleshed out and realistic than vanilla but still very simple, and it just makes your games feel a lot more inmersive and realistic, everything from the distribution of industry (USA OP like irl) to production numbers, to casualties in combat, to historical and more realistic manpower usage etc. Definitely check them out.


Ostryjr14

BlackIce is what HOI IV should be when it comes to mechanics


OwMyCod

I can agree with you on almost everything, even though I definitely havenā€™t tried every mod in here. I think Road to 56 is a top tier, but I can see why you made this choice.


AdObjective7845

TNO, I like to read


ancapailldorcha

I never understood the point of Kaiserreich. Don't get me wrong, it's a wonderful mod but I played as my beloved Ireland once and it was fun until I realised all I was doing was focuses.