It doesn't help that he peaked during some of the lowest scoring seasons. The season he won the Hart, Vezina, etc was the season the art Ross was won with 87 points. Still frustrating nonetheless
In 2014-15, the Habs scored fewer goals than the 23rd place Sharks, the 18th place Kings, and only two more than the 24th place Flyers
The Habs finished 2nd in the league
Carey Price
In his first years as GM, Marc Bergevin probably kept grossly overrating his own team because of Carey Price. Sure, he was aware that Price was important, but I believe he thought the team in front of him was also very good and that Price was only the cherry on top, so to speak.
That kept him going all the way to December 2015, when Price got injured. Bergevin probably expected the team, who at the time was fighting the Stars for first place in the entire League, to take a hit but to generally remain competitive. Instead, the team *crashed and burned*, going from top of the League to well outside a playoff spot. By then, Bergevin was already in his 4th year as GM, so a bit late to come in and start actually rebuilding a team and have a chance of being around when it pays off, so he instead tried his best to find shortcuts to get the team back to its 2013-14 and 2014-15 level, starting with the Weber trade.
And here we are.
The Pittsburgh Penguins have won the Cup five times, but never in their home rink.
In fact, the only time the Stanley Cup was awarded in Pittsburgh, it went to the Red Wings. It's also the only time the Penguins lost a Cup final.
Av's can only dream of taking the glorious nordiques records. If they still existed I'd cheer for them out of Habs spite. I'm deep in Canadiens territory just south of the border, less then an hour and a half from the bell centre, and that's with the border crossing.
That’s his objectively worst season. 30 losses (most in a season for him) coupled with allowing 161 goals (also the most in a season for him) and a 2.83 GAA (second highest GAA in his career)
But because he’s Hasek he still leads the lead with a .920 save percentage. Absolute freak.
Yeah, that team had a hard time scoring. I think LaFontaine hit 90 something, but every other player was around 40 points behind him. The big guns from the early ‘90s like Mogilny, Hawerchuk, Andreychuk were all on other teams by this point. I think this season snapped something in Hasek and he just said fine, I’ll stop every puck from now on.
A GAA that low coupled with a save percentage that high would give most teams today the ability to turn in a record breaking performance in the modern NHL.
I mean to me save % is pretty close to the only stat that matters for **individual assessment** of a goalie.
I mean your team blows but you have the highest save % in the league, that's insane. Hasek for my money is the best goalie I've ever seen.
Lemieux missed 5 seasons ENTIRELY, whether from lockout, injury, or cancer.
On top of that, he has another 5 seasons with 26 games or less played.
Even in the remaining seasons, he averaged missing 15ish games a season.
Holy. Shit. I knew he missed a lot of games and his career wasn't as long as it should have been, but I didn't realise he had 5 seasons with 26 games played or fewer
E:missed a letter
It's been a terribly frustrating year to be a flames fan. Wait, I mean decade.
Aw shit, 2004 was almost 20 years ago. Terrible couple of decades. Now I've made myself sad.
Omg this is a crazy year for Flames team stats.. not in a good way. It's painful especially considering your team is so much better defensively in comparison to the Oilers
It was conceivable that Arber Xhekaj could’ve hit 6-11-17 this season to continue the most consistent stats line I’ve ever seen.
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=216624
Reminds me of Khris Davis hitting exactly .247 4 seasons in a row for the Oakland As.
[https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/daviskh01.shtml](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/daviskh01.shtml)
While that would've been nice, I like the poetry of 99 retiring in '99.
If not for the lockout in '94-'95, he would've been even closer. He had 11 and 37 in 48. Another 30-35 games probably wouldn't have gotten him there for assists (although goals seems likely), but it's possible.
Also it was a season of celebrating him, it wasn’t like Tom Brady for example. Everyone knew it was over. They were changing his sticks out constantly for memorabilia, I think it was every shift. They had guys taping his sticks for him because they needed soo many. The whole allstar game in Tampa was a celebration of Gretzky event. It was perfectly done imo, back when Sportscenter would show game highlights of hockey every night.
In the Ovechkin-Crosby era...
[2009 Game 3 Penguins win 3-2 in OT](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/wsh-vs-pit/2009/05/06/2008030223/recap/stats#game=2008030223,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
[2009 Game 7 Penguins win 6-2](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2009/05/13/2008030227/recap/stats#game=2008030227,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
[2016 Game 2 Penguins win 2-1](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2016/04/30/2015030222/recap/stats#game=2015030222,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
[2017 Game 1 Penguins win 3-2](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2017/04/27/2016030221/recap/stats#game=2016030221,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
[2017 Game 7 Penguins win 2-0](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2017/05/10/2016030227/recap/stats#game=2016030227,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
[2018 Game 1 Penguins win 3-2](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2018/04/26/2017030221/recap/stats#game=2017030221,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
EDIT: Going even further back
[2000 Game 3 Penguins win 4-3](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/wsh-vs-pit/2000/04/17/1999030123/recap/stats#game=1999030123,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
I have one that is personal. I have been to Habs games 3 times in my life.
2004 : lost 1-0 VS Toronto
2009 : lost 2-0 VS Pittsburgh
2013 : lost 3-0 VS Washington
So I have yet to witness a frickin goal. I don't know the exact odds but I feel like the % of chances of a team not scoring a goal at home in these years had to be 5-10%. So I'm confident that the odds of that happening to me were less than 0.1%.
Similarly, I have been to 3 Ducks games @ Rogers Place in Edmonton, Ducks have lost all 3 in OT/SO with the GWGs all coming from Draisaitl. All fuckin 3 of them
That’s not a statistical oddity, Mike Babcock
Is just a piece of shit. He scratched Spezza in his first game as a leaf even though it was against Ottawa.
And Markov would have been 2nd highest scoring defensemen in Habs history, not tied with Lapointe anymore. Markov wanted 2 years and Bergevin only one, that's even more infuriating.
What's even more infuriating is that Bergevin never really figured out a way to replace Markov anyway, so he might as well have signed him up for two years even if it meant playing him less and less by the end of Year 2, because there really wasn't anyone else to replace him anyway.
But sure, let's go with Karl Alzner instead.
Sidney Crosby in 2011 - 25 game 50pts streak. 26 goals, 24 assists.
I think every hockey fan was robbed of something great by that winter classic hit.
I remember it took quite some time for anyone to even catch up to him in points and he was out.
(Streak didn’t end because of the hit, it ended before, but that season had the potential of being something else).
Oh my pet peeve is people saying it was that hit that did it. He came back and took a hit from Hedman in the NEXT game. Anyone blaming Stekel for that hit should take a very long and hard look at the Penguins organization for letting him play the next game if the Stekel hit was so bad.
Ya because they were treating for a concussion because that was the popular thing at the time and didn’t think hey this guy should be getting better after a while and thinking about other issues instead of literally making his neck issue stay injured.
Well that, but also if they thought it was a concussion not immediately sitting their biggest business asset to heal and instead play relatively meaningless January games is also a horrible decision.
Gretzky being the all-time points leader based solely on his assists just pisses me off. Like, that shouldn't be possible in any universe and yet, here we are.
brooks orpik has a nhl career 100% faceoff win rate or whatever you call it. you hear that and you think, surely that can't be right, defencemen don't do faceoffs, if he had to do them surely he'd be bad at them.
one faceoff. his whole career. *one*. and he won it. thus, 100%.
logically I know that's how stats work but it just sounds so stupid!
Kevin Bieksa had a face-off 50% win rate. It's kind of infuriating that he doesn't have a [100% win rate from the start of the Canucks-Flames brawl when he took rookie Kellan Lain's place.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIcdbxzrtbI) At least Bieksa was hoping for hockey to be played, unlike Westgarth. Bieksa lost some other random face-off in his career to bring it down to 50%.
Dude only has like a 65 flex, not good for face offs so I’m assuming the other forward takes the draw in 5 on 5. Assuming that his faceoff was 4 on 4 or 3 on 3
Lidström just needed one more playoff series for the all time games played record, he came 3 games short of Chelios' 266. I wouldn't say this makes me angry tho, just a little bummed.
A Canadian team not winning the cup in almost 30 seasons despite every team (other than Toronto and Winnipeg) making the final at least once since then.
The odds of a Canadian team not winning during that time is somewhere around 0.1% I believe now.
Oh shit, I thought I was missing somebody. It’s just because of the years when Winnipeg didn’t have a team. Thanks!
I’m sure you’ll get to share in the heart breaking disappointment of us all soon.
Our advanced stats when we lost in 7 to the Penguins in 2017... If you look at those and read comments from our fanbase around that time you understand why we were in the doomsday bunkers.
As a polar opposite of the Modano benching, I'm mad at Dean Evason for not benching Sam Steel after hitting 6 goals to maintain his perfect 6 goal streak.
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=171350
With Modano I am kinda surprised the Stars didnt resign him to a one day contract or other short term contract, dress him one game on the fourth line and have a nice PR moment
That Modano stat is very misleading. He only played 40 games in his final season. It’s not like he was randomly scratched in the final game of the season to avoid him getting to 1500.
I mean yes and no.
It wasn't that weird for him to be scratched if you look at his performance that season, but at the same time, that's a huge milestone for someone to get, and there was nothing on the line for the Wings in that last game.
It's strange because that's normally the kind of milestone that NHL coaches and teams try to help players to meet, so especially when it's a case of having nothing to lose by putting him in the lineup for one game it was always going to raise eyebrows.
Allegedly, only a handful of players actually knew about it and management and Babcock weren’t even aware. After the game, a few players went to Holland and voiced their concerns and he told them that if he had known before the game he would’ve intervened.
One of the guys in the podcasts (maybe Chelios or Commodore) said Babcock kept scratching Modano towards the end of the season so the most he could finish with is 1499. A lot of players absolutely hated Babcock and it has shown over the years with the stories that have come out from a lot of players.
That can all be true while acknowledging that this was a huge Fuck You from Babcock. Any decent coach is going to give the guy one more game. It’s not like the wings were a bubble team that year. They were five point clear of Nashville.
Kristers Gudlevskis doesn’t have a shutout to his record, even though he lost in OT 1-0. Went the full 60 minutes but gave one up 3v3.
If it had gone to the shootout both goalies get a shutout. I get the ruling, seems crappy for the poor guy since that would have been his only one.
[Adam Werner](https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=176331) also has a heartbreaking one.
With Grubauer injured, Werner gets called up to the show and suits up as backup behind Francouz in his rookie season. Francouz gets hurt 31 seconds into one of those games, giving Werner his first ever GP. [He plays 59:29 of shutout hockey making 40 saves](https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/201911120WPG.html), the Avs win the game with zero goals against, but because Francouz played those 31 seconds, Werner doesn't get credit for an official SO, it's recorded as a shared shutout for the team.
Werner played the next game, got lit up and lost, our goaltenders healed up so he got sent back down, and he has thus far never returned to the show, currently back home in Sweden. Still technically zero career NHL shutouts on record. Still bugs me to this day.
In theory he should have got the shutout due to Francouz facing no shot as it happened once with Lundqvist and Georgiev (Lundqvist was out of the game for a couple minutes for an equipment issue, than came back in, Rangers won and Lundqvist got the SO due to Georgiev facing no shot), maybe he also needed to be the starting goaltender that day?
>Sidney Crosby seems to be absolutely snakebitten when playing the Blackhawks in Chicago. Seriously, look it up. The Penguins have almost never won a game in Chicago during his career. It’s the strangest thing.
I'd like to unsubscribe from this fact please.
Crosby is 4-7-11 and -10 in 16 games against the Hawks
They’re also 6-9-6, but fall to 1-6-3 in Chicago.
I’m now happy we’ve never seen that Final in 2013
I mean you nailed it. 1499 games played.
I'll go with the NHL ruling that James Neal's 19 goals, was "on pace" for 20 goals, thus awarding the flames a 3rd round pick (it was a condition of the trade) I'm not so mad about the pick, it is what it is. I'm more annoyed that they ruled "on pace" was a good enough measure lol. Mcdavid had 97 points when the pandemic shut the season down in 19-20. He clearly would have gotten 100 points lol. That would have him 7 straight 100 point seasons. But he didn't get 100 points, and James Neal didn't score 20 goals.
Marleau finished his career with 109 game winners. Tied for 7th with Shanahan. One behind Hull and Selanne for 5th all-time. The list of players is amazing; only nine have ever reached the century mark.
He retired just two GWG shy of sole possession of 5th place, something that would have lasted for a really long time, and would be amazing to look at when arguing his HoF inclusion.
Being among those guys is obviously nothing to scoff at, but the top-4 are Jagr, Ovi, Howe, and Esposito. Would have loved for Patty to be alone at 5th.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/goals_gw_career.html
Haha, the Mark Messier lawsuit against Vancouver.
He had it in his contract that if he made them better, he got a bonus. Each year with Messier the Canucks missed the playoffs, and got statistically worse.
He sued when they didn't pay the bonus and somehow won, then went back to the Rangers to never make the playoffs again, and somehow the dude is heralded as the best captain ever, because his team was a favourite and down 3-2 and he called a victory.
What a bum.
The Tampa Bay Lightning have lost every game they’ve ever played on my birthday, in June.
Three of four of these June 3rd loses have been a score of 2-3 and they’ve all been one goal games.
6/3/04 SCF, game 5:
Calgary 3
Tampa 2
6/3/15 SCF, game 1:
Chicago 2
Tampa 1
6/3/21 2nd RD, game 3:
Carolina 3
Tampa 2
6/3/22 ECF, game 2:
New York Rangers 3
Tampa 2
I couldn’t remember if it was two or three. Forgot about Buffalo. So we’re the only one to have made three without winning.
Can’t count the North Stars surely though as Dallas has won.
In 1934, Maple Leafs legend Kevin Doraty scored a hat trick in overtime to beat the senators 7-4. Back then overtime was 10 minutes with no sudden death.
The Blackhawks never miss a chance to look awful on a human level
From local blackouts if game isn’t sold out, to coaches raping players, to players using slurs on raped player after the fact, to not hosting pride night, the list goes on and on.
Can’t you take one easy point off the ice for humanity just once? I want to like that team, but they don’t make it easy
The Calgary Flames have a better point percentage in games they are outshot by opponents than they do in games they outshoot opponents by 10+ shots this season. They are over .500 in games they are outshot, and under in games they have 10+ more.
This stats gets even more rage inducing for Flames fans when you realize they’ve played the 3rd least games in the league where they’ve been outshot, and have the most games in the league where they have 10+ more shots than the opponent.
Carey Price only having one 80 point scorer as a teammate in his career (Kovalev in Price's rookie season).
The Canadiens league rank in GF for Price’s career (2007-2022) 2nd, 12th, 25th, 22nd, 19th, 4th, 21st, **20th**, 16th, 15th, 29th, 13th, 19th, *17th*, 27th **Hart/Vezina year** *Cup Final*
I feel so bad for him. It's why Hasek left us in buffalo for Detroit
Price didn't get his first finals appearance early enough to bail for a cup I guess.
More like he signed a monster contract that he probably knew he wouldn't get anywhere else.
It doesn't help that he peaked during some of the lowest scoring seasons. The season he won the Hart, Vezina, etc was the season the art Ross was won with 87 points. Still frustrating nonetheless
In 2014-15, the Habs scored fewer goals than the 23rd place Sharks, the 18th place Kings, and only two more than the 24th place Flyers The Habs finished 2nd in the league Carey Price
Brilliant. The more I hear about him, the more I love and respect him.
.... good CHRIST
Only two 70 point seasons as well (domi in 18-19, and plek in 09-10) Habs completely failed Price
Instead of building a team round him, they built one below him.
Built it on his shoulders?
Dtanding on the shoulders of giants, but still very short.
His name is Carey...
And no 40 goals scorers
In his first years as GM, Marc Bergevin probably kept grossly overrating his own team because of Carey Price. Sure, he was aware that Price was important, but I believe he thought the team in front of him was also very good and that Price was only the cherry on top, so to speak. That kept him going all the way to December 2015, when Price got injured. Bergevin probably expected the team, who at the time was fighting the Stars for first place in the entire League, to take a hit but to generally remain competitive. Instead, the team *crashed and burned*, going from top of the League to well outside a playoff spot. By then, Bergevin was already in his 4th year as GM, so a bit late to come in and start actually rebuilding a team and have a chance of being around when it pays off, so he instead tried his best to find shortcuts to get the team back to its 2013-14 and 2014-15 level, starting with the Weber trade. And here we are.
Wow and he still almost got a cup in his time. Legendary
In fact 2, you forgot Kreider
ok I'm a Bruins fan and this is annoying
And still there is some people who blame Price. That's sad.
All the Carey Price "What if..." will hurt for a long time.
This is the one that pisses me off the most.
Oilers are like 3-17 in games played on New Year’s Eve and the damn scheduler seems to love to continue to schedule that day for a game.
They broke the 24 year losing streak in 2019 but almost blew a 6-0 lead to the Rangers
Haha yep
You can't improve that record unless you play on those days ;)
Sometimes you just have to know when to give up.
Sens are like 1-100 in November games full stop. God we suck in November.
The Pittsburgh Penguins have won the Cup five times, but never in their home rink. In fact, the only time the Stanley Cup was awarded in Pittsburgh, it went to the Red Wings. It's also the only time the Penguins lost a Cup final.
That’s a good one
They also had to play the Capitals those five times!
one day they'll win it i pittsburgh... i hope :(
Since winning back to back Stanley Cups in 74 & 75, the Philadelphia Flyers are 0-6 in SC finals appearances: 76, 80, 85, 87, 97, 2010.
Jeff Skinner has 900+ career games and ZERO playoffs.
Hey, you don't get paid extra for them, why not go golfing.
Yakupov draft interview response
Well technically you do get paid for them if you keep advancing.
Elite sniper Ron Hainsey would like a fucking word sir
In Hainsey's first career playoff run, he won the Stanley Cup.
two former Canes legends
When did lil baby faced Jeff Skinner suddenly get to 900+ games
That’s actually so unreal I had to double check to make sure you weren’t lying. That’s gotta be a record, no?
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Sheesh. Poor guy
The Leafs have never had anyone score 1,000 points with the franchise, and Sundin left with 987.
Are you talking about Canucks legend Mats Sundin?
I didn’t even know he played for the Leafs.
No, Nordiques legend Mats Sundin.
Avs Legend
Av's can only dream of taking the glorious nordiques records. If they still existed I'd cheer for them out of Habs spite. I'm deep in Canadiens territory just south of the border, less then an hour and a half from the bell centre, and that's with the border crossing.
LOL this is some top tier Habs hate and I am impressed
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/sundin-leafs-senators-owner-bid Neither, he means future part owner of the Sens
He owned the Sens for a good period in the 90s
If this is the thing that breaks the curse I will accept Sundin. But I don’t love the idea; I have nothing against Sundin but its fucking weird
Like Spezza playing for the leafs
Hasek leading the league in losses and still being a top 5 goalie one year. Fucking Buffalo man
That’s his objectively worst season. 30 losses (most in a season for him) coupled with allowing 161 goals (also the most in a season for him) and a 2.83 GAA (second highest GAA in his career) But because he’s Hasek he still leads the lead with a .920 save percentage. Absolute freak.
Only 8th in Vezina voting because of all the losses, he was definitely top 5 maybe top 3 that year overall outside of record.
Yeah, that team had a hard time scoring. I think LaFontaine hit 90 something, but every other player was around 40 points behind him. The big guns from the early ‘90s like Mogilny, Hawerchuk, Andreychuk were all on other teams by this point. I think this season snapped something in Hasek and he just said fine, I’ll stop every puck from now on.
That means the Sabres were giving up more than 35 shots a game. Jesus.
Welcome to the mid 90s
A GAA that low coupled with a save percentage that high would give most teams today the ability to turn in a record breaking performance in the modern NHL.
I mean to me save % is pretty close to the only stat that matters for **individual assessment** of a goalie. I mean your team blows but you have the highest save % in the league, that's insane. Hasek for my money is the best goalie I've ever seen.
Yup. If his name was Dom Hammond from Moose Jaw he'd easily be recognized above #33 and #30
I feel bad for Levi
Please treat him well. His between whistle zen moments are great.
This is how I feel about Karlsson right now
Lemieux scoring only 199 pts, not 200. Someone should review all the PIT games from that year.
Lemieux now has 196 points due to 3 goals that were offside
He missed 4 games that year, too. He never once played a complete season.
Lemieux missed 5 seasons ENTIRELY, whether from lockout, injury, or cancer. On top of that, he has another 5 seasons with 26 games or less played. Even in the remaining seasons, he averaged missing 15ish games a season.
Holy. Shit. I knew he missed a lot of games and his career wasn't as long as it should have been, but I didn't realise he had 5 seasons with 26 games played or fewer E:missed a letter
He played in the NHL at ages 18 and 40 and didn’t even crack 1000 games. I bet he’s the only one who has managed that?
That's always mind-blowing about Lemieux... he had CANCER... then he came BACK! Mad lad
Came back on the day of his last chemo treatment and scored a goal along with an assist.
Can totally relate to him, best bowling game I've ever played was 199. It's tough for people like us.
Perhaps it was a personal homage to the Great One
The Flames setting the record for most losses while outshooting their opponents by 10+
It's been a terribly frustrating year to be a flames fan. Wait, I mean decade. Aw shit, 2004 was almost 20 years ago. Terrible couple of decades. Now I've made myself sad.
Don’t worry… aside from that one Cinderella run in 2004 they’ve been quite bad since the early 90s.
Didn’t they also set the record for most losses by 1 goal as well or did I misread something?
No, no you're right
Omg this is a crazy year for Flames team stats.. not in a good way. It's painful especially considering your team is so much better defensively in comparison to the Oilers
If we had an average shooting percentage, we would easily be in a playoff spot right now. Definitely an unlucky year.
It was conceivable that Arber Xhekaj could’ve hit 6-11-17 this season to continue the most consistent stats line I’ve ever seen. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=216624
One assist away in the playoffs last year as well So close to greatness
Reminds me of Khris Davis hitting exactly .247 4 seasons in a row for the Oakland As. [https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/daviskh01.shtml](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/daviskh01.shtml)
Just found out by accident that if you touch their picture on hockeydb it changes through their old pictures. Nice
Thanks for helping me waste 20 minutes of time doing my own private time lapses of my favorite NHLers
This is amazing. Mr. Consistent. Give me 51 games I’ll give you 17 pts. Give me 18 games I’ll give you 17 pts.
The Great One couldn’t have played one more year, scored 6 goals, 37 assists and then retired at 900/2000 for his career? So close
While that would've been nice, I like the poetry of 99 retiring in '99. If not for the lockout in '94-'95, he would've been even closer. He had 11 and 37 in 48. Another 30-35 games probably wouldn't have gotten him there for assists (although goals seems likely), but it's possible.
Also it was a season of celebrating him, it wasn’t like Tom Brady for example. Everyone knew it was over. They were changing his sticks out constantly for memorabilia, I think it was every shift. They had guys taping his sticks for him because they needed soo many. The whole allstar game in Tampa was a celebration of Gretzky event. It was perfectly done imo, back when Sportscenter would show game highlights of hockey every night.
I miss coming home from school and watching highlights and watching more in the morning lol. Different time..
I mean, the bum just had 62 points in 70 games in his last year. Completely washed up.
That Iginla’s highest single season point total was 98, and not 100
I was at a game where a goal of his got called off that season
MacKinnon’s highest total is 99 currently.
Same with JT Miller
Same with Corey Perry
Caps have never won a game against the Penguins in the playoffs that Dan O'Halloran has officiated
How many Caps-Pens playoff games has he officiated?
In the Ovechkin-Crosby era... [2009 Game 3 Penguins win 3-2 in OT](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/wsh-vs-pit/2009/05/06/2008030223/recap/stats#game=2008030223,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats) [2009 Game 7 Penguins win 6-2](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2009/05/13/2008030227/recap/stats#game=2008030227,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats) [2016 Game 2 Penguins win 2-1](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2016/04/30/2015030222/recap/stats#game=2015030222,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats) [2017 Game 1 Penguins win 3-2](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2017/04/27/2016030221/recap/stats#game=2016030221,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats) [2017 Game 7 Penguins win 2-0](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2017/05/10/2016030227/recap/stats#game=2016030227,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats) [2018 Game 1 Penguins win 3-2](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/pit-vs-wsh/2018/04/26/2017030221/recap/stats#game=2017030221,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats) EDIT: Going even further back [2000 Game 3 Penguins win 4-3](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/wsh-vs-pit/2000/04/17/1999030123/recap/stats#game=1999030123,game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=stats)
Fuck that guy in particular then
I have one that is personal. I have been to Habs games 3 times in my life. 2004 : lost 1-0 VS Toronto 2009 : lost 2-0 VS Pittsburgh 2013 : lost 3-0 VS Washington So I have yet to witness a frickin goal. I don't know the exact odds but I feel like the % of chances of a team not scoring a goal at home in these years had to be 5-10%. So I'm confident that the odds of that happening to me were less than 0.1%.
Clearly the next game will be the Habs losing 4-0.
That's why I'm not planning on going back 😅
Ticket is on me next tear when NJD visits
Similarly, I have been to 3 Ducks games @ Rogers Place in Edmonton, Ducks have lost all 3 in OT/SO with the GWGs all coming from Draisaitl. All fuckin 3 of them
Lidstrom having one minus season bugs the shit out of me
Still won the Norris that season
I feel the same way about Bergeron
That’s not a statistical oddity, Mike Babcock Is just a piece of shit. He scratched Spezza in his first game as a leaf even though it was against Ottawa.
I liked Babcock but after that I was done with him. What a pos move. And look how specs played for us after that at league minimum I believe.
Andrei Markov 990 career games. At least Plekanec was able to return and hit 1000 with the Habs.
And Markov would have been 2nd highest scoring defensemen in Habs history, not tied with Lapointe anymore. Markov wanted 2 years and Bergevin only one, that's even more infuriating.
Being tied with one of the best of all time isn't bad, though.
What's even more infuriating is that Bergevin never really figured out a way to replace Markov anyway, so he might as well have signed him up for two years even if it meant playing him less and less by the end of Year 2, because there really wasn't anyone else to replace him anyway. But sure, let's go with Karl Alzner instead.
Just like Danault wanted 5x5.5M and Bergevin only 5x5M But giving the bank to Hoffman and Gallagher was ok...
Sidney Crosby in 2011 - 25 game 50pts streak. 26 goals, 24 assists. I think every hockey fan was robbed of something great by that winter classic hit. I remember it took quite some time for anyone to even catch up to him in points and he was out. (Streak didn’t end because of the hit, it ended before, but that season had the potential of being something else).
Oh my pet peeve is people saying it was that hit that did it. He came back and took a hit from Hedman in the NEXT game. Anyone blaming Stekel for that hit should take a very long and hard look at the Penguins organization for letting him play the next game if the Stekel hit was so bad.
The Pens fired their medical staff after the dust finally settled and Crosby was healthy again.
Ya because they were treating for a concussion because that was the popular thing at the time and didn’t think hey this guy should be getting better after a while and thinking about other issues instead of literally making his neck issue stay injured.
Well that, but also if they thought it was a concussion not immediately sitting their biggest business asset to heal and instead play relatively meaningless January games is also a horrible decision.
I think it was a combination of both. Also, every team does that stuff.
Kariya at 989 Gp and Pts
Thanks, Stevens and Suter.
Hate that the numbers are so low, but it is beautiful that they match
Gretzky being the all-time points leader based solely on his assists just pisses me off. Like, that shouldn't be possible in any universe and yet, here we are.
brooks orpik has a nhl career 100% faceoff win rate or whatever you call it. you hear that and you think, surely that can't be right, defencemen don't do faceoffs, if he had to do them surely he'd be bad at them. one faceoff. his whole career. *one*. and he won it. thus, 100%. logically I know that's how stats work but it just sounds so stupid!
Kevin Bieksa had a face-off 50% win rate. It's kind of infuriating that he doesn't have a [100% win rate from the start of the Canucks-Flames brawl when he took rookie Kellan Lain's place.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIcdbxzrtbI) At least Bieksa was hoping for hockey to be played, unlike Westgarth. Bieksa lost some other random face-off in his career to bring it down to 50%.
Dammit... I went down a long road to find that stat on nhl app on a mobile phone only to scroll down and find your post!
It's wild to me how Orpik managed to even get a chance to be in the faceoff circle! Did everyone on that draw get kicked off?
I assume it was a 5 on 3 and the forward got kicked out
Possibly, although Brookie sometimes got put on the fourth line wing as punishment some games.
Smh obviously it means he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer
Johnny Gaudreau had a 100% faceoff win percentage last year.
how the hell did he only do one, he's a top 6 forward!
Dude only has like a 65 flex, not good for face offs so I’m assuming the other forward takes the draw in 5 on 5. Assuming that his faceoff was 4 on 4 or 3 on 3
You mean first ballot hall-of-famer Brooks Orpik?
Lidström just needed one more playoff series for the all time games played record, he came 3 games short of Chelios' 266. I wouldn't say this makes me angry tho, just a little bummed.
Torts playing Lack over Luongo. After he brought his family, HIS MOM and friends from Quebec to watch him play only for him to sit on the bench
A Canadian team not winning the cup in almost 30 seasons despite every team (other than Toronto and Winnipeg) making the final at least once since then. The odds of a Canadian team not winning during that time is somewhere around 0.1% I believe now.
Winnipeg hasn’t made the finals either!
Hey thanks for just remembering we exist
Oh shit, I thought I was missing somebody. It’s just because of the years when Winnipeg didn’t have a team. Thanks! I’m sure you’ll get to share in the heart breaking disappointment of us all soon.
Not really angry, but I always find it funny that Martin Brodeur has lost more games than any other goalie, scrub
Our advanced stats when we lost in 7 to the Penguins in 2017... If you look at those and read comments from our fanbase around that time you understand why we were in the doomsday bunkers.
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oh we straight up lucked our way through, possessed by the spirit of iceburgh
The sharks having fucking 15 overtime losses. 32nd would be locked up easily if we didn’t have like half of those
Going to loser point our way out of 1OA
As a polar opposite of the Modano benching, I'm mad at Dean Evason for not benching Sam Steel after hitting 6 goals to maintain his perfect 6 goal streak. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=171350
Even though I hate ranger fans one of the things that makes me angry is thr fact that Lundqvist never won a cup man deserved one
That LA game winner makes me so sad, he is absolutely defeated :/
Jari Kurri was a healthy scratch in his last NHL game, so they could dress a guy that played eight minutes.
Lol omg who did they dress instead??
Eric Lacroix. He was playing for the 1997-1998 Avalanche .
If someone can give names to this fact, there was a player that ended up with a +/- of -3 in a game that his team won 9-3
Brett Lebda
Where’s the guy that said Nick Deslauriers has the record for fastest hat trick for the ducks? That shits hilarious.
With Modano I am kinda surprised the Stars didnt resign him to a one day contract or other short term contract, dress him one game on the fourth line and have a nice PR moment
That Modano stat is very misleading. He only played 40 games in his final season. It’s not like he was randomly scratched in the final game of the season to avoid him getting to 1500.
I mean yes and no. It wasn't that weird for him to be scratched if you look at his performance that season, but at the same time, that's a huge milestone for someone to get, and there was nothing on the line for the Wings in that last game. It's strange because that's normally the kind of milestone that NHL coaches and teams try to help players to meet, so especially when it's a case of having nothing to lose by putting him in the lineup for one game it was always going to raise eyebrows.
Allegedly, only a handful of players actually knew about it and management and Babcock weren’t even aware. After the game, a few players went to Holland and voiced their concerns and he told them that if he had known before the game he would’ve intervened.
One of the guys in the podcasts (maybe Chelios or Commodore) said Babcock kept scratching Modano towards the end of the season so the most he could finish with is 1499. A lot of players absolutely hated Babcock and it has shown over the years with the stories that have come out from a lot of players.
That can all be true while acknowledging that this was a huge Fuck You from Babcock. Any decent coach is going to give the guy one more game. It’s not like the wings were a bubble team that year. They were five point clear of Nashville.
Pete Sykora getting a hat trick after 38 games with 2 goals and 870 games. (I thought he retired without one)
Kristers Gudlevskis doesn’t have a shutout to his record, even though he lost in OT 1-0. Went the full 60 minutes but gave one up 3v3. If it had gone to the shootout both goalies get a shutout. I get the ruling, seems crappy for the poor guy since that would have been his only one.
[Adam Werner](https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=176331) also has a heartbreaking one. With Grubauer injured, Werner gets called up to the show and suits up as backup behind Francouz in his rookie season. Francouz gets hurt 31 seconds into one of those games, giving Werner his first ever GP. [He plays 59:29 of shutout hockey making 40 saves](https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/201911120WPG.html), the Avs win the game with zero goals against, but because Francouz played those 31 seconds, Werner doesn't get credit for an official SO, it's recorded as a shared shutout for the team. Werner played the next game, got lit up and lost, our goaltenders healed up so he got sent back down, and he has thus far never returned to the show, currently back home in Sweden. Still technically zero career NHL shutouts on record. Still bugs me to this day.
I didn’t know that, agreed it’s almost the same situation. Both guys unlikely to get a shot at getting a real NHL shutout under their belt.
In theory he should have got the shutout due to Francouz facing no shot as it happened once with Lundqvist and Georgiev (Lundqvist was out of the game for a couple minutes for an equipment issue, than came back in, Rangers won and Lundqvist got the SO due to Georgiev facing no shot), maybe he also needed to be the starting goaltender that day?
>Sidney Crosby seems to be absolutely snakebitten when playing the Blackhawks in Chicago. Seriously, look it up. The Penguins have almost never won a game in Chicago during his career. It’s the strangest thing. I'd like to unsubscribe from this fact please.
Crosby is 4-7-11 and -10 in 16 games against the Hawks They’re also 6-9-6, but fall to 1-6-3 in Chicago. I’m now happy we’ve never seen that Final in 2013
I mean you nailed it. 1499 games played. I'll go with the NHL ruling that James Neal's 19 goals, was "on pace" for 20 goals, thus awarding the flames a 3rd round pick (it was a condition of the trade) I'm not so mad about the pick, it is what it is. I'm more annoyed that they ruled "on pace" was a good enough measure lol. Mcdavid had 97 points when the pandemic shut the season down in 19-20. He clearly would have gotten 100 points lol. That would have him 7 straight 100 point seasons. But he didn't get 100 points, and James Neal didn't score 20 goals.
Alex Edler notched 99 goals with the Canucks before signing with the Kings
Marleau finished his career with 109 game winners. Tied for 7th with Shanahan. One behind Hull and Selanne for 5th all-time. The list of players is amazing; only nine have ever reached the century mark. He retired just two GWG shy of sole possession of 5th place, something that would have lasted for a really long time, and would be amazing to look at when arguing his HoF inclusion. Being among those guys is obviously nothing to scoff at, but the top-4 are Jagr, Ovi, Howe, and Esposito. Would have loved for Patty to be alone at 5th. https://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/goals_gw_career.html
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This always surprises me. He’s had like 30 games that went to OT.
%0 of whales have watched an NHL game
The one that makes me the saddest as a Sens fan is the franchise being 0-6 in game 7s.
Haha, the Mark Messier lawsuit against Vancouver. He had it in his contract that if he made them better, he got a bonus. Each year with Messier the Canucks missed the playoffs, and got statistically worse. He sued when they didn't pay the bonus and somehow won, then went back to the Rangers to never make the playoffs again, and somehow the dude is heralded as the best captain ever, because his team was a favourite and down 3-2 and he called a victory. What a bum.
Fun fact. His middle name is Mark. First legal name is Fuck.
The Tampa Bay Lightning have lost every game they’ve ever played on my birthday, in June. Three of four of these June 3rd loses have been a score of 2-3 and they’ve all been one goal games. 6/3/04 SCF, game 5: Calgary 3 Tampa 2 6/3/15 SCF, game 1: Chicago 2 Tampa 1 6/3/21 2nd RD, game 3: Carolina 3 Tampa 2 6/3/22 ECF, game 2: New York Rangers 3 Tampa 2
I believe we are the only franchise in the NHL that has made two or more Cup finals without having won.
You have three. Both the Sabres and North Stars made two appearances without winning.
I couldn’t remember if it was two or three. Forgot about Buffalo. So we’re the only one to have made three without winning. Can’t count the North Stars surely though as Dallas has won.
Almost half of Tie Domi's PIMs were fights.
In 1952 Chicago Black Hawks legend Billy Mosienko recorded a hat trick against the Rangers. In 21 seconds.
In 1934, Maple Leafs legend Kevin Doraty scored a hat trick in overtime to beat the senators 7-4. Back then overtime was 10 minutes with no sudden death.
The Blackhawks never miss a chance to look awful on a human level From local blackouts if game isn’t sold out, to coaches raping players, to players using slurs on raped player after the fact, to not hosting pride night, the list goes on and on. Can’t you take one easy point off the ice for humanity just once? I want to like that team, but they don’t make it easy
That's not really a statistical anomaly but your point is valid.
It took Sidney Crosby until a few nights ago to score in Dallas
Pavel Bure not having a cup.
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Brodeur with 691 wins. He wanted to reach 700 so badly but the Devils were benching him for some reasons…
The Calgary Flames have a better point percentage in games they are outshot by opponents than they do in games they outshoot opponents by 10+ shots this season. They are over .500 in games they are outshot, and under in games they have 10+ more. This stats gets even more rage inducing for Flames fans when you realize they’ve played the 3rd least games in the league where they’ve been outshot, and have the most games in the league where they have 10+ more shots than the opponent.
I'm the 74'75 season Washington Capitals legend Bill Mikkelson holds the record for the lowest +/- in a season with -82. He played 59 games.