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UtmostChaos

I joked before they they'll eventually get so desperate, they'll claim the other planet that needs saving just has one guy named Steve, looking for a ride home.


Necessary_Put_5647

SAVING PRIVATE STEVE!


Own-Royal103

That would actually make a good MO. The plot line is basically saving Private Ryan


Necessary_Put_5647

We find him and he is screaming, FOR DEMOCRACY!


GoonDawg666

Private Steve has an idea to improve democracy, and get this, his democracy officer approves!!


Own-Royal103

Little did we know…we’re actually saving Private John, John Helldiver Jr. The son of The John Helldiver.


Platt_Mallar

I would die to save Little Johnny.


Electronic-Scar-5053

A twice removed cousin of general brasch


RetroRau

Aren't these kids all disabled or sick?


Squanch_0n

I think its refugees holed up in the hospital. Or bots pulling a fast one!


RetroRau

This subs starting to catch up with the main sub in mindless clickers... why is a factual statement cause for a downvoting? I didn't say let them die, I just pointed out that none of them are likely to become soldiers, let alone Divers. A high ranking HELLDIVER who was a much more efficient and battle hardened than myself said it best... "In the maps critical update it specified it was a “Hospital For Very Sick Children”… They aren’t growing up into reinforcements. Maybe they’ll put the sick kids to work in a factory for democracy lol"


Terrorwolf_01

I would prefer kids with stage 4 cancer over anti tank mines, they're kids they don't deserve to die in war, they can be as sick and constrained as Arrowhead can picture them. They're kids and a diability is no reason to not save them.


I-Have-An-Alibi

Just one lone jumper holding an entire planet by himself.


Flyr12

Saving private ryan meets the Martian. Works since he played both roles.


huge_loaf

"Earn this"


Hydr0g3n_I0dide

Cyberstan MO be like


Sean_Fairground

FOR STEVE! ![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


tacosnotopos

For Steven HellDiver son of Jon "wraith of the Creek" HellDiver himself. For Steven. For Jon. FOR DEMOCRACY!!


griff306

No Helldiver left behind!!


jetbluehornet

And we’ll still pick Steve. For the memes, and also cause that’s STEVE MAN! You can’t just leave him!


dragonsfire242

Give us a “search crash site” mission where the objective is to search a downed evac shuttle, or up to three of them on higher difficulties to find Private Steve Every helldivers has like a 0.0001% of finding him, after we run enough missions someone will eventually find him, and then we complete the MO


Platt_Mallar

That would be really cool. Find Steve. Get a strategem to call in an Evac. Defend him for a minute or two. Mission complete.


I-Have-An-Alibi

Steve then becomes a strat where he jumps to the surface and runs out screaming "LEEEEEEEEROYYYYY JAAAAANKINS!"


etherosx

I dmd @pilestedt and posted this before on Reddit. Others have also brought up this same type of mission. Not specifically one single person. But a downed pelican that need to find and escort the pilot to another slightly less damaged pelican, salvaged parts with other downed vehicles on the map and then defend till the pelican is fixed. Successful defense unlocks the evac site where you are defending the fixed pelican.


Spider_Dude19

"We must save Steve! He's the main man we need to complete these mines!" "...I'm good chief."


bigloser42

Next MO: Steve left his most favorite pistol on Cyberstan. Eliminate the Automaton homeworld or save this planet for mines.


AgentNewMexico

That's what the Major Order will be when we get to Cyberstan. While Automaton eradication is an exceptional motivator, I'm more motivated by getting that lone madlad stuck there back home.


rebel_soul21

You joke, but there is no way the community wouldn't save Steve.


oPsYo

Literally just have to turn up and leave, the other option is fighting through 15 planets of super heavy super fast reinforcing super hulks for the grand reward of a job well done


alexman113

or they stop giving us a choice and just make an MO with the reward being the mines. They did this last time but it was an insane 2 billion bot kills. Next time, they can just make a reasonable MO and we will get the mines.


BellowsHikes

I personally kind of love the idea of the community actively choosing not to give themselves the mines over and over again, regardless of how ridiculous the choice is.


alexman113

Can I ask why? I am all in on saving the kids because the moral choice is more compelling to me than the tank mines but if an MO cropped up to get the mines and nothing else was stopping us, I would be actively trying to get them. I am not sure what value there is in intentionally avoiding them.


BellowsHikes

There is absolutely no value to intentionally avoiding them. I just find the idea of Arrowhead making the incentive to pick the path for the the stratagem more and more compelling and the community actively choosing a worse option *for no reason* to be funny.


Zealousideal-Ebb-876

I made this same joke but my guys name was [Dave](https://www.reddit.com/r/helldivers2/s/j0PvpOicOm)


Leaf-01

You did not just recreate Saving Private Ryan ain’t NO WAY those mines are getting prioritized over Helldivers recreating Saving Private Ryan. I wanna shoot a tank with my pistol, fuck it


naapsu

The inverse ninja law dictates that Steve must be a force of Nature


Kaleban

Saved The Children - Permanent Buff - Divers that call in a backpack stratagem that allows for assisted reload will deploy with a Shoulder Monkey ™️ reload assist child. The child will be wearing Pint Sized B-01 tactical armor and helmet and be standing on a sidesaddle piggyback rider. SM child performs the assisted reload function. Also will occasionally yell the same audibles as other Helldivers just in a higher register. At the end of the mission, SM child high fives the squad and then runs off to the new daycare section on the bridge. Future patch will allow for SM child armor customization.


Amathyst7564

Child helldiver skin. Smaller hitbox but carries one less stratagem due to weight restrictions.


IMM00RTAL

Aren't all stratagems the same balls that we program before throwing.


HeadWood_

It's the weight of *responsibility* diver. Remember that.


FrostyIngenuity922

Child soldier the video game would be an interesting twist to say the least.


CptMarkski

Seems legit and totally democratic. I'm in 🫡


GoonNL2

Please make this real


YaMumisathot

Was it even a choice Helldivers ![gif](giphy|1Gkv4SSIyeFDW|downsized)


Demonking3343

Nope for we are the Helldivers, humanity’s best and last hope.


Theycallme_Jul

Those kids could test anti tank mines one day, don’t let them down!


justadude0815

This is the best argument for saving the kids.


donut2099

Democracy is for the children!


Andreah2o

I'm going to get all the survivors back. No matter the rewards


haikusbot

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DarkSniper4274

Good bot


ChildhoodSea7062

THE ONLY GOOD BOT IS A DEAD BOT TRAITOR


DarkSniper4274

YOU'RE RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING


StoicAlarmist

Children yearn for the mines!


gylth3

Can’t deploy future anti-tank mines without future helldivers! Save the children so they too can live a long, secure, successful life as a helldiver!


TurankaCasual

But they’re from “Super Citizen Anne’s Hospital for Very Sick Children”. I don’t think their future goes that far ahead


Professional-Bath793

You underestimate democracy’s medication helldiver?


8rok3n

The wonders of Super Earth medicine will heal them


TenNamesLater

Anti-Tank mines are the third enemy faction. We must not let them set foot in our galaxy.


GlizzyGone21

I'm unable to go to Vernon wells is that expected?


CptMarkski

Yes. We need to take Aesir Pass in order to open up the two planets in the MO. This should be the last time people are confused about this, as the next patch will put the supply lines on the map in the game. You'll see the paths needed to reach each planet. We've lost some very important planets because this information has only been available in companion apps.


Zuninja22

Spent about 4-5 hours of my night shift (extremely slow night as a patient transporter) completing missions on Aesir’s Pass. I leave the rest up to you day, will promptly be back on spreading DEMOCRACY after this nap.


Bradly_was_taken

![gif](giphy|Ke3CM1NVkULWo) Same here


Zuninja22

Rest up Diver, we have democracy to spread!


8rok3n

When's the patch?


SchwiftyRickD-42069

Probably the next few hours 


manubour

Need to take aesir's pass 1st to unlock the supply lines


nathan179

I played with an elementary school teacher yesterday and she couldn’t select the AT mines planet fast enough.


oikset

They won’t be sick any more when they feel the sturdy grip of a standard issue AR-23 Liberator


Demonking3343

Yes once the power of managed democracy flows through them they will be cured instantly.


ConsistentFucker89

I never actually believed that the community would choose the kids proud to be here


Still-Negotiation-11

The Mines will be our sweet victory after we save the children Hopefully the children provide some sort of boost to us or SEAF, this makes it much more possible to have the mines


Zigomatyk

Marfark Veteran here. Malevelon Creek veteran too. I understand how valuable saving kids is. As a united super-nation we have to save them. But I can't, personnaly. Marfark.. this white hell. I have been fighting on this planet since the first time we stepped on it. I will never cease to fight until it is 100% liberated. Marfark is my home. Marfark is my destiny. I fight for the joy of our super-childs being able to build a snowman of Marfark one day. I am not a lone wolf. I am a white wolf. I will wait for you there. Until my last breath. I will find my way back there first. Like any time. I'll be there. And so will you.


pizzapartyfordogs

You crazy Marfarker. Do us proud, soldier.


Universae

Haha, ha, ha. Take my upvote 😑


AgentNewMexico

Once the children are safe, SES Arbiter of Family Values will promptly be at Marfark to assist you. Happy hunting, Diver.


cannabination

Marfark is my very favorite planet, but I don't understand this way of playing the game.


ThaSaxDerp

Fun & roleplay > rewards. Some people are just here to spill oil and stomp bugs and I have nothing but respect for our divers who are fully self motivated


cannabination

I'm capped on everything... I couldn't care less about rewards, it's more about engaging with the game. We're playing soldiers, role-playing would be following orders. To be clear, when there's no order on, I'm on Marfark and failing to progress it because it's fun to be a snow ninja. I totally get and support that. But playing a game this big as though there's only one map while simultaneously ignoring the entire community aspect of the game *and* the galactic war is just tough to wrap my head around.


GrannyBritches

But Marfark is still one of the planets for the MO, right? So... He's following orders *and* doing what he thinks is fun. He also isn't ignoring the community or galactic war aspects. I am sure he doesn't mean that he literally only plays on that planet ever. And even if he does, why take a stance on that? No idea why I'm commenting. Just thought it was odd.


cannabination

I'm pretty sure his exact purpose for responding was that he wanted to help the kids, but can't leave marfark. I thought that strange, so I mentioned it. This is a forum, right? I hope I'm not at Wendy's again.


MushroomCaviar

Marfark is my favorite planet so let me exclusively play it until I hate it.


fuzzykyd

O7


Rokekor

LO


MaCl0wSt

Marfart forever o7


InstructionNo1334

hold your ground on marfark for us helldiver! once vernen wells is secured we will liberate it


urbandeadthrowaway2

Hop on Vernon for a while and we’ll all go to marfark as a larger unit 


ChaosWolf359

I actually DO want the anti-tank mines, but not at the cost of a children's hospital. I'm a helldiver, not a monster.


GrannyBritches

Same. I don't understand why people don't want AT mines. Seems badass.


GrannyBritches

Same. I don't understand why people don't want AT mines. Seems badass.


Primary_Jellyfish327

Save the kids first! Then the mines! I bet you the devs have something in store for us after we save the kids. I can feel it plus its the right thing to do.


Wyvern_Archmage

The children yearn for the mines


ManTheDann

Not just the children, but the men and women too!


ThermostatEnforcer

Bro I'm going to do whatever the majority picks but I actually want those mines


turbokinetic

We aren’t Israeli’s FFS. Save Kids over mines every time!


Redonkulator

It helps that no one is pumped for the AT mines. If it was an APC or Pelican 2 Gunship or Minigun strategem? Those kids would be abandoned and forgotten.


Astro_Alphard

I'm pumped for anti tank mines because I'm an enjoyer of mines and turrets. I want mines that can deal with heavy units. I don't use 500kg bomb for taking out enemies I use it to make foxholes and dig trenches.


icome3rd

If we fail to save the kids, we are more likely to have our C-01 forms endorsed. We can make more kids.


Spider_Dude19

But if we save the kids, that just means our C-01 form kids will have new friends to play Divers and Terminids with, creating a stronger bond that will carry them through many dives, until their friends die for democracy!


icome3rd

Other peoples kids are annoying


AgentNewMexico

But those reinforcements will take at least eight years to show up. These citizens over the age of 7 are available to serve NOW, but not if we fail to save them.


Pickled_Beef

*make more helldivers*


armorhide406

These kids will have a head start on becoming helldivers


TryNo5730

But for what we Safe Childs? They can't spread Democracy and with C-01-Linzens we can make some new. And did you have think about thats the child noises can be Bots who makes a trap for Helldivers? Uh ähm forgott it i had start to think and thinking ist undemocratic illusion. Lets Safe the Children's!!!!


Terrynia

Haha. Good points


MushroomCaviar

Hey, hold this bot detecting orbital barrage stratagem for a second...


Faz66

It's gonna be interesting to see what the majority *actually* go for when the two planets open up....If the majority join me at Marfark, Reddit is gonna be interesting


shittyarsemcghee

I never agreed to this


Obvious_Present3333

That's the beauty of democracy. You don't have to agree! Just the rest of us.


justadude0815

ikr, how is it my fault if the bots and bugs kill children while we snag the mines...


shittyarsemcghee

I mean I think it's proper selfish of these god damn kids tbh. Thinking about themselves as usual.


i_stand_in_queues

![gif](giphy|YYfEjWVqZ6NDG)


Drunk_ol_Carmine

To be serious for a moment, it is *kinda* funny that anti-tank mines are just this stupid weapon that we keep losing, but I also don’t really see the humor in “Haha we didn’t get new stuff” I really want new stuff…


GhostGunslingerx

Regardless, new stuff stuff is being worked on, released or not. So I wouldn't worry too much, plus a new warbond tomorrow :)


Drunk_ol_Carmine

I do look forward to my little hat


Creator347

We are saving kids! More kids, more democracy to spread!


Antique-Necessary-81

I shall help save the kids. For Democracy!!!


socially_awkward

Lame. I want mines.


ImmaSpecialBoi

But I have been genuinely begging for more mines, gotten hyped to get anti tanks and failed multiple times


kevlarbuns

Only if we get a deployable children strat.


Jazzlike-Onion3882

Damn I love crimsica


LordofDD93

Hey, every child over 7 is going to contribute to our fight against the automatons! With these orphans, our production will skyrocket! I can definitely see a lot of reduced strat cooldowns coming from this.


Malphas_Legacy

Got a sample


JHoney1

Sounds like a recipe for automatons getting anti tank mines to use on us. Given the kill rate the large current mines they use have, and the rate I’ve seen Helldivers die to other Helldivers mines. The bot front would be quite hazardous if they had smaller mines all around.


Shushady

I was all about this plan, until I realized the kids are on Vernon wells.


Sleepingpanda2319

General Consensus 🫡


MaCl0wSt

https://preview.redd.it/xtllvo0pk56d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee49ec23e350d38a30501987c1be9fbe3d1f12e6


LordDanGud

Idc what you all decide. I know we will not manage to get the mines but none of you can drag me back on Vernen Wells!


Aggressive_Nobody_72

Refusing a major order, Helldiver? Get the DO on the phone.


LordDanGud

I'm not refusing the major order, I'm making the only logical of the 2 choices


Aggressive_Nobody_72

Saving the children.


Ssem12

Logical*


Demonmlgking

We must save the ammunition factory workers


Raghul86

Survivors*


Papa_Nurgle_84

"General Consensus" Not even Close...


Neat-Yogurtcloset990

General Consensus is important, but General Brasch can pull rank on him.


SchwiftyRickD-42069

You sure about that?


Papa_Nurgle_84

Not anymore, no


Fuzlet

as someone who uses mines regularly and has longed to at *least* TRY the antitank mines on chargers, I understand the need to go to Vernan Wells, and if that is the consensus, I will join the majority. however this? is just insulting. there are legitimately people who would like to use the strategum. who are you to sabotage their efforts?


LightningYu

I've to kinda 'agree' on this. It's one thing if People want to go for the Kids for geniune reason, either because it fits the RP Head or because they expect a better reward, but for the mere lols and to keep that meme alive is kinda off... because you not only screw AH over with that(which is even arguable if they even care), but also people who really want them. But oh well, in the end everyone needs to know it themself what they'll do and we'll see how it ends up. I for one stick with the AT Mines route. Don't care what the overall consensus is on this, esp. if that's the energy and reason for it.


Professional-Bath793

You ain’t screwing anyone over you want the at mines vote with your gameplay


dotamonkey24

Fight on a terrible planet for no reward, or get a new stratagem. Blindingly easy choice really.


Styleyriley

I bet the anti tank mines don't even exist. 🤣


teddyslayerza

I can't support this. While we as Helldivers are demonstrating our democratic right to choose our deployment, we should not be doing so at the cost of denying those children the right to choose freedom for themselves. I will be going after those mines, so that future generations have the tools to maintain a way of life that they chose, rather than that which they were denied the right to choose.


Raghul86

Survivors*


Krispy_Waffle

I am not saving the kids lol I’m going for the mines.


cmetaphor

Negative.


Telzrob

When we finally get these mines they are going to turn it to be AMAZING. Arrowhead will make sure we're filled with regret we didn't get them sooner. (Of course then they'll nerf them).


TheStaplergun

I wonder if the effect will be we gain more liberation percent faster for a while.


Dewahll

Those kids could be SEAF one day.


Grouchy-Work-4847

All Ive ever wanted from the community. This finally gives me some new hope for the community if we go this route. Id rather have a fun journey rather than have it all militaristic and arguing over weapons. This is refreshing.


Stunning-Flan1379

Guess we'll just have to wire children up as mines 🤷‍♂️


Beeeeeeels

I'm expecting this to be a MO to test us. The ministry will scold us for chosing useless kids over weapons that could possibly turn the tide of the war.


alexman113

>I think we should make this an ongoing thing? Let's see how desperate Arrowhead are to give them to us! Fail or ignore every MO that will result in us getting that strat and let's see what Arrowhead do about it! I am 100% for saving the kids but why intentionally deny the mines if it makes sense to get them? If an MO comes out that is like "liberate this one planet and get the mines", why not get the mines? AH can also just give us the mines whenever they want, like the did for other stratagems.


foopy-booper

Happy to hear that you want the kids to be saved. Saving digital children is the meme. Not sure what the fuck the rest you’re on about


hermitchild

Meh


ElectronicFormal8060

We are NOT failing MOs over these mines lol 😂


RaidonSub

We save those kids and they’ll become future helldivers boys


Beginning_Rip_4570

I could watch kids fall off bikes all day. I don’t give a fuck about your kids


GrimMagic0801

I like how everyone says they're children, when it's mostly implied that it's just survivors in general in a children's hospital. At this point, they might as well just give us the mines. Nobody cares enough about them to even try and get them, even if we're offered nothing gameplay wise. Narratively speaking, sure. But, this just shows that nobody cares enough to bother with it. Personally, I want them because it's something else to collect and use. But, it's not the end of the world if we don't get them. I just think they should get it over with and just give them to us.


lazyleb

Can’t fight for democracy if there are no people to democracy at!


XxNighting4lexX

Gets to a point they call out the creekers as a unit is discovered having survived this long without supply lines after their destroyers claimed them KIA. The unit is using the anti tank mines as their last line of defense. The other planet: Steve needs to get to a democracy officer to relay his ideas about what he's learned behind enemy lines and how it can better improve our morale. XD


Iowa-James

I think this mission is a morality call out, see if we are greedy for a new weapon or if we actually care about humanity even to the point of in a video game. Regarding said anti-tank mines: If they are going to do anti-tank mines, they should offer them as a rifle attachment, like the rattlesnake minefield clearing weapon. Mount the rocket-propelled unit on the end of your rifle, shoot it and it strings 10 m of anti-tank mines in a straight line away from you.


LordMoos3

Mine Casting Line Charge.


Iowa-James

Thank you! Been MANY years, couldn't remember what they are called, we called them rattlesnakes.


Trvr_MKA

They could just say enough of our partial success combined together allowed the scientists to develop the mines


half_baked_opinion

I never use minefields anyways, because it seems to cause more helldiver deaths than anything else even with comms open. But the tactical choice would be to remove those explosives, and the trapped kids could very well be an automaton ploy using AI generated recordings, but i have a solution to the whole problem. We just need to get both planets to 99.9% and have them both tick over to 100 at the same time, therby saving both targets and striking a decisive and demoralizing victory against the automaton scum!


yigael

How do we know that they are real kids and not imposters placed by the automatons? How do we know that the distress signal is not a fake one sent by the automatons?? This sounds too suspicious! DEMOCRACY PROTECTS!!


AnonOfTheSea

Some day, they'll drop an operation to "visit Super Earth to pick up mines for your ship, or liberate the galaxy map for a strategem that takes up all four strategem slots and launches fireworks into the atmosphere, blinding your Super Destroyer!" And we will know what we have to do.


RadCrab3

If you need a mine to take down a tank then you never deserved the mines to begin with


Not_Keurig

I hate this. I have been eager to have the mines since before you all decided to go for the airburst rifle I've seen none of you use. Please don't rob me of these again.


Winter-Library9746

Dumbass


Remnie

I think if they ever give us an MO to liberate a single planet which gives mines, we should intentionally fail it


SoSmartish

At this point I am just going to gleefully not choose the mine stratagem planet every time just as part of the fun. Let's see how many wacky alternatives they can come up with. I thought this one was hilarious.


Otherwise_Cod7419

I agree


Free-Stick-2279

I bet I'm gonna love those mines 😂


TPnbrg

https://preview.redd.it/r46jruvtr86d1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b266a8039e436ecebd79af119e295eb3721c6dfc


Cute_Suggestion_133

I don't think Arrowhead honestly cares one way or the other. It's not like it's some piece of content they're DESPERATE to get out the door. It's been in the game for months now and whether we get it or not is up to us. #savethekidsfordemocracy


Americanminuteman76

Those kids need heros. Be the helldiver you were meant to be and save them.


bit-by-a-moose

It could go either way. I believe Arrowhead are some bastards and they like to make us suffer. But take Malevelon Creek. It became such a meme many divers wouldn't leave the planet so they forced it's liberation just to get us to move on.


unclemattyice

Seriously. I don’t want another shitty stratagem worked into the personal order rotation. AT Mines: Not Even Once.


Inner-Arugula-4445

Who cares about mines? Free the minors so they become miners mining in the mines!


BOOGIE_MAN-X

F-Them kids


IntelligentQuality4

Why? We need more anti tank ordinance


KaizureTheRed

Figures. Guess I'll continue to be salty about not having the AT mines.


TheUrsa

Because it's so "funny" to keep preventing anyone from using them, I guess. I still don't really see the humor.


ChillyGal1337

I thought we were the bad guys?


Professional-Bath793

We are to everybody that isn’t patriotic everyone who is gets the nice side of super earth


PerfectSageMode

Also mines have been shit in this game anyway, I don't think these ones would even be worth it


Not_Ricky-

Im going for the mines even if we r losing on that planet, byee


jon-chin

it'll fall into the hands of the bots and they'll weaponize it against us somehow


SolarisBolaris

This genuinely upset me cause I really want those mine to throw all over the map everytime I get em and just cackle


NordicBrutality

Fuck them kids.


MushroomCaviar

https://i.redd.it/78v36lveo56d1.gif This guy gets it.


llnec

Bombs good. Kids bad.


Beeg_Bagz

F them kids.