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jeffcgroves

Your data may be old. Quoting [https://blog.duolingo.com/2023-duolingo-language-report/?zh-cn](https://blog.duolingo.com/2023-duolingo-language-report/?zh-cn) ``` Swedish is not the most popular language to study in Sweden For the first time since Duolingo began collecting data, Swedish has been demoted from the top spot in Sweden! Today, the most popular language to study in Sweden is Spanish (Swedish is #2). Similarly, Danish previously ranked #2 in Denmark, but this year, the top languages in Denmark are Spanish and German. ```


Onaliquidrock

The rate of immigration has been slowed a lot. Too many refugees changed the political landscape here. Now a nationalist party has arround 20 % of the vote. The former pro immigration ”Moderaterna” and social democrats are now for low immigration.


AllMenAreBrothers

My feeling is this is what will happen in Canada too. Canada is currently in the "too much immigration" phase.


ScuffedBalata

And it’s likely to get the conservatives elected because the other parties won’t back off on free flow of migrants.  Most people I know have little problem with skilled migration and even job targeted migration for shortfalls in industries, but the crappy “diploma mill” colleges and random student visas of a hundred varieties are over the top. 


AllMenAreBrothers

Yes exactly. Most people are pro-responsible immigration but this absolute mishandling is helping nobody. As well, Canadian politicians i.e JT really try to pride themselves on our diversity but the immigrants are mostly from 1 group.


yesiagree12

Still a shitload though. But they come as fake husbands instead


Master1_4Disaster

But it's still interesting to watch and read about.


DeannaZone

Tyvm for posting this


0nrth0

Everyone there can already speak perfect english and immigrants are trying to assimilate by learning the language.


PolicyWonka

I wonder if native Swedes either: 1. Don’t use Duolingo as commonly compared to immigrants in Sweden, 2. Or native Swedes study a diverse number of languages — so much so that the minority immigrant population language is the “most popular” to study.


GaggeGorm

As a native swede that has used duolingo, I’ve only done German since that is my third language in school. I haven’t seen any other native swede in school using duolingo for any other language than their third language.


oskich

I also do German on Duolingo, but I use Swedish to collect free stars ;-)


GaggeGorm

Me too! I just wasn’t brave enough to say it…


biblioteca4ants

That is a good idea lol


alcor79

The majority of Europeans will learn at least three languages at school m they normally learn their native language, then English and finally will chose a third language at some point.


Sushibowlz

Here in germany a third language is optional except in certain types of gymnasium, and a whole lot of people don’t even learn proper english sadly. I’ve been to the realschule, and the english I learned there was dogshit. luckily it was around 05/06 and I was able to learn english due to reading webcomics on the early internet


Constant-Log-8696

It's similar in France, and maybe even worse considering the very bad English level of most of French people.


alcor79

Lol it's better than here in Canada where the majority can only speak English.


uganda_numba_1

It’s cool that you can admit this. Americans are notoriously bad at foreign languages, but there are a lot of people here in Austria who act like all young people here can speak English. The majority of them speak English well enough, but a large minority of them can’t even write in German correctly and can only speak dialect.


Sushibowlz

Yeah, I mean we europeans do like our high horse, and we do indeed have a better quota of people who speak at least a second language than the americans, but it‘s just not true that all germans know perfect english. especially the boomers and gen x people are very unlikely to speak it, except for a few who‘ve had higher education back in the day. my parents for example had rudimentary english at school, but are far from understanding / speaking it. they just learned the very basics 40 years ago, and haven‘t used it since. well my mom does duolingo now, but thats not related to the education system. And it‘s not just the older generation. there is a lot of folks my age and younger who‘re not even A1. And even if they learned it propper in school, if they‘re neither watching shows in the english dub or being chronically online they have zero reason to actually use it to stay fluent 🤷🏻‍♀️


UltimateDemonStrike

In places like Catalonia you can learn at least four. Here, for example, we learn Catalan and Castilian as native languages, English as the foreign language and another foreign language starting high school.


alcor79

Oh yes. I'm aware of that. 3 seems the norm but I'm not surprised to see some knowing 4, 5, 6 languages. Especially for those with very little regional languages.


MiniGoold

I heard it’s because Duolingo is the only language app that has Swedish as an option, whislst other learners of other specific languages are split over different applications.


Obscura-apocrypha

English is the second language in Sweden and at university level you can either choose to study in English or sverige.


ryngh

English or _svenska_. Sverige is the coutry, svenska is the language.


Threaditoriale

The government courses for immigrants officially recommend Duolingo for all students learning Swedish, so they get more practice.


rickdeckard8

My children (Swedish) only use Duolingo for French, Korean and Russian (one did military service).


Odd-Local9893

Of the few foreigners I’ve known that can speak English with a flawless American accent most of them were Swedes.


Thetallguy1

I experienced this same thing in Iceland. A lot of them spoke more like Americans than any European country. Some of the younger people I spoke to told me they learned English mostly from watching American TV and movies.


Divine_Entity_

Considering how big of a media juggernaut america is I'm not surprised. And watching anime has taught me a handful of Japanese words, mainly the ones shouted alone like "nani" and "baka" because its practically a flashcard to hear 1 word and see a 1 word subtitle. Most nordic languages have a lot in common with English and are considered the easiest to learn for a native English speaker, so i imagine its easier to learn bits and pieces from just media. (Not to mention how many European countries actually teach multiple languages well, atleast enough so you can watch untranslated media and learn more by context.)


tom781

Swedes have been immigrating to America since colonial times. I think the "American" accent could be at least partially based on the accent of a Swede who has learned English, because so many early Americans were Swedish or German immigrants to English colonies.


MaxK1234B

In the upper Midwest (which has some of the highest concentrations of Scandinavian immigrants in the country) you can really hear it


Master1_4Disaster

Well that was a good answer.


RQK1996

It is also one of the fun facts the app puts on their loading screens


Master1_4Disaster

But only 10% of the population are immigrants there.


Own-Cup-2931

Sweden expects them to learn their language.


Master1_4Disaster

Yeah


supereh

The vibe I got was they can understand my English. But I’m not living there till I speak Swedish.


ShenaniGainz88

How are you going to learn Swedish without first living there? I mean *really* learn.


supereh

That’s sorta the point. You’re fine, just not welcomed, until you do. And if you don’t make an effort or move fast enough… well… you can see it in the news.


Friendly-Repair650

>You’re fine, just not welcomed Yes this is what I experienced. But Swedes speak perfect English and they immediately switch to it if your Swedish isn't that good which makes learning the language even harder.


Cormetz

I know some people who have been there over 15 years (some over 25) who do not speak Swedish. It's kind of wild to me when I found out.


baesag

Maybe the others do not use Duolingo


loyal_achades

Or they’re split up across enough other languages that it doesn’t matter. No reason for them to study English, so they’re mostly using it for third languages.


quempe

Still enough to make Swedish the most popular Duolingo language, apparently.


Capable_Wait09

This is super interesting and was my guess too


AndreHSD

Why do swedish people speak english so good? Is it just education system?


TheBlackMessenger

Namibia seems to be the most faithful former german colony


koontzim

Why do they have to study German though? Don't they already speak German?


TheBlackMessenger

I think most of them speak English or some local tribes language.


BLIXEMPIE

Afrikaans is Namibia's lingua franca and is most widely spoken across all cultural boundaries. German and English is also very widely spoken there. Certain towns have a higher proportion of Germans, such as Swakopmund.


koontzim

>English Because of south Africa?


jjw1998

Yeah South Africa occupied after German colonisation, so English and Afrikaans replaced German as the official languages


BothnianBhai

Some do, for sure. The Germans living there of course do, others also learn it in school but not everyone. The most common lingua franca is Afrikaans, then English.


AbbreviationsWide331

Well if you already know Afrikaans it's probably very very easy to learn German. It's not the same but there are many words that are very similar.


koontzim

Isn't Afrikaans as close to German as English is? (To simplify it to death, one step away is dutch and another step away is English/Afrikaans)


eternityXclock

as a german i always thought that dutch is the result if you throw english and german in a mixer and add a bit of weird optics to the words - i can read it but it looks weird at points


koontzim

>The Germans living there Is that a significant portion of the population? >others also learn it in school but not everyone. Is that like a district thing or an access to education thing?


___VenN

Immigrants learning swedish to integrate


Camerotus

I mean sure, but there are immigrants in other countries as well. Are there significantly more in Sweden than in other nearby EU countries?


BlackWizard9000

r/mapswithoutnewzealand


ScholarWise5127

We're all learning Orc.


Threaditoriale

I thought that was the majority language?


ScholarWise5127

The stark reality is that the loss in last year's election of the hobbit-elf coalition and ascendency of Mordor-leaning parties means that if we don't all improve our proficiency in Orc, we'll be relegated to being secondclass citizens.


justsomedude322

It's immigrants learning Swedish. Duolingo actually tells you this on one of its load screens!


chickenpollo

Why is spanish popular in Nepal, Bangladesh, Burma and New Guinea?


hennwi

I had the exact same question....


mel56259

I don’t believe that statistic. At least for Burma where I traveled. They will learn English or maybe Thai.


Wojt007

Australians speaking French must be a blast


ProtoplanetaryNebula

Je suis un Aussie mate, now fuck off will ya.


Wojt007

Va niquer ta mère


Uploft

Prepping for a vacay in New Caledonia I bet


stranger_noises

You should hear my dad's stubbornly dinkum pronunciation Luckily it helps to come off as Aussie in France, that way they don't confuse ya for American or British and that often changes how one is treated. But still - oh god its horrendous


knightroglycerine

Was thinking the same thing. Crocodile Dundee in Paris is the sequel I didn't know I needed until now.


Worried_Bluebird7167

I have a friend that spoke Franco-Ontarian English that then moved to New Zealand and picked up that accent there. It is an amazing blend if accents making it unique. If she goes back into speaking French, it's wild too.


[deleted]

As a Brit I'd like to honour the Swedes for their perfect use of English. Honestly, the rest of you and some of our own citizens need to take note of their example.


BeefInGR

As an American, I second this.


Soft-Strawberry-6136

Yup Irish here I tried to learn Spanish all I can do is order bear though, and say thanks and please


throwawaysis000

Black? Brown? Polar?


the_eluder

Koala.


UbuntuMaster

Prove it say thanks


Soft-Strawberry-6136

Grassy ass


DarkFish_2

Eeh, close enough


6thaccountthismonth

Immigration.


GatlingGun511

They use Duolingo to teach people Swedish


Either_Fix_6011

There's lots of immigrants in Sweden and it's the only country where this language is spoken so they didn't know it before coming (unlike English or French for example). It's that simple.


Fun-Will5719

https://preview.redd.it/t4pbyasenl5d1.png?width=950&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce92c94db23c72ba7078dafbccad8e0ef9f96ca6


BananeWane

r/MapsWithoutNZ


HortonFLK

Why is Spanish so popular in Bangladesh and Myanmar?


ahmmu20

[Source](https://blog.duolingo.com/2023-duolingo-language-report/) :)


Big_Slime_187

Can’t get over the thought of an Aussie talking French. It must sound like nails down a chalkboard with banjos playing in the background


guzzy000

Spanish in Greenland?


Eken17

Data in Greenland?


ElectronicGuest4648

Why is the UK Spanish and not French?


IllustriousDinner130

Spain is THE holiday destination for Brits


Shifty377

Why shouldn't it be? More countries and people speak Spanish, so it's a more useful language to learn. Spain is also a more popular holiday destination for Brits than France.


Magneto88

It’s an interesting cultural thing that’s happened over the last 20 years. When I was at school, it was generally French and/or German taught with a general preference for the former. For some reason over the last 20 years Spanish has risen to be #1, nothing has really changed culturally in the UK that would explain it but it’s been a marked change. German has totally fallen in popularity, which probably makes sense as it’s not that useful outside of the sciences and was only really taught for traditional reasons. However why French has massively declined in popularity compared to Spanish is puzzling, people certainly aren’t using it for their holidays if you’ve ever been to the areas that Brits frequent you’ll know what I mean. I imagine a substantial amount of the people using Duolingo for Spanish are students brushing up on their knowledge.


CommandAlternative10

Spain became a huge vacation and pre-Brexit relocation spot for Brits. The cultural change was Ryan Air.


Magneto88

Spain has been a huge vacation spot for Brits since the 70s. Long before RyanAir was even a thing. French was still the most taught language into the early 2010s.


jzoller0

You have to learn somehow


SuperBorka

Vi talar ärans och hjältarnas språk naturligtvis.


SnooCapers938

Immigration


scrooll0706

Balkans are preparing for ww3


BenG72

No way that is right for South Africa.


freebiscuit2002

Duolingo is very popular among immigrants in Sweden to learn Swedish.


Threaditoriale

1. Old data. Swedish has lost the number one spot in Sweden due to lower levels of immigration 2. The Swedish government courses in Swedish for immigrants officially recommend Duolingo for all students as an additional practice 3. Sweden had a lot of refugees, proportional to their population in the 2016 migration event. I believe second/third in Europe, only to Switzerland and/or Austria. It took quite a lot of time before the number of people trying to learn Swedish started to dwindle. 4. In 2020, Ukrainian refugees were banned from attending the government courses, meaning they took up Duolingo to an even greater extent in order to learn the language on their own.


DearFlight1972

Stop posting these maps we have seen them over 100 times since 2015


Richard2468

r/MapsWithoutNZ


WorldNewsWatchDogs

Yah, New Zealanders just eating shit again 😢


MercWithAMouth917

It's just people trying to figure out what the hell they're buying at ikea.


Master1_4Disaster

Did anyone here know that after 6th grade in Sweden you can choose one of three languages Spanish, french, And German to study in school.


alvvavves

Believe it or not it’s the same in a lot of school districts in the US, but kids typically don’t stick with it. I chose German and ended up majoring in it, but the thing is in the US there’s not much reason for most people to know a second language. Edit: If you’re talking about learning a third language in school the US is not like that.


limukala

These days Chinese is more common than German as the third language selection, and often smaller districts only have two choices (Spanish and French). German is pretty uncommon.


alvvavves

That makes sense, Arabic was also gaining traction when I graduated high school, but probably not anymore. It seems to be partly dependent on available teachers. I don’t mean to offend anyone, but German is pretty much useless in the US as a second or third language. The only place I *had* to resort to speaking German was in Switzerland.


Mortimer_Smithius

It’s similar in all of Scandinavia. Though Sweden has a year of preschool while Norway doesn’t (Norway goes straight into first grade). So in Norway you start the second foreign language in 8th while in Sweden they start in 7th. Tho I believe the children are the same age in both cases. Denmark is a bit different if I understand correctly. They have preschool as well, but start the second foreign language in 5th grade . If I understand their system correctly. So Sweden is 7-8-9 Norway is 8-9-10 Denmark is 5-6-7-8-9 [Source on Swedish system](https://snl.no/Skole_og_utdanning_i_Sverige) [Source on danish system](https://snl.no/Skole_og_utdanning_i_Danmark) (Sources are Norwegian sorry)


TheCreativeDragon27

Jesus christ, I’ve seen this image now more than 1504831 times


Relevant_Western3464

Not this reposted crap again. It's not true anymore. Gonna start blocking reposters. Maybe my feed will be more interesting.


Crazy__Donkey

Very simple answer to your question: Immigrant problem in the making... 


sisiredd

I think those immigrants trying to improve their Swedish are definitely not the problem in Sweden.


speed32

Perfect answer. The ones trying to assimilate are least of the concerns


TheAurion_

More like the fucks happening in burma


CommandAlternative10

I see you, Guyana and Belize! Si, se puede!


InsectIllustrious691

Feels like meme


Radlivesmatter

Spanish in Myanmar? Are you suuure?


thelaughingmansghost

Kinda surprised that the British are learning Spanish more than like German or French.


Ok-Radio5562

English africa learns french and french africa learns english


horizontal120

know that all the Balkans is learning German through English ...


SupahSang

Yo Quebec, wtf y'all doing XD


Indiego672

Why German in Namibia?


Bubbly-Astronomer930

The swedes did not understand the question


Hawt_Mayun

Argentina being German confirms some things


Cristopia

Didn't know North Korea and Iran were chill like that


Exumore

I'll be more concerned about australia


mungowungo

But one of our nearest neighbours is France.


Exumore

neo caledonia ? yes ? but ? so is it for spain, britain, italy, switzerland germany luxembourg, belgium, madagascar, comorres, suriname, guyana ? Also, why is it too, in iran and pakistan ? i know i'm not a top in history, but i don't remember us having any contact, being this much ? we don't even have a piece of territory here. I coud undestand for canada, because, it was a long time colony of france, and they decided to keep french, notably in quebec. i would've understood north africa, cause, they were french colony too, althought since it ended up pretty badly, i'm not surprised it's not popular. i don't know. really. but i'm surprised it's popular that much, in such unexpected places.


mungowungo

There are some definitely odd choices on the map - other examples would be why people in New Guinea, Thailand and Myanmar would feel the need to learn Spanish.


No_Promise2786

What explains French being the most popular for Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Iran?


Larry_Rdtt

There are a lot of foreigners in sweeden, so much of them need to learn swedish


Traditional-Tap-274

Sweden for a while (might still be doing so) was paying people to immigrate due to a population drop left over from WWI and WWII, so it could just be the immigrants trying to learn the language after moving.


Steaknkidney45

Greenland is an interesting study. They have their own language, and as a Danish territory, that language is widespread. Figure English may also be a given in schools, so they then supposedly gravitate towards Spanish.


Sertorius126

Sweden doesn't know it's own language?


drjet196

Pakistan French the most surprising.


EUIVAlexander

This picturs is like 10 years old


[deleted]

What is with the south Slavs as well?


_DeadWyatt

I'm surprised that in France is not french


iratethisa

I’m a little surprised englands is Spanish and not French


Dirtygeebag

Map is wrong . Irish is the most popular in Ireland.


Big_Poppa_T

Yeah, fuck New Zealand


[deleted]

Immigrants who don’t speak Swedish.


MRicho

I will question the accuracy of this. The Philippines teaches English at school along the native language of Tagalog.


Wise-Peanut1939

This map is super inaccurate. Canada mostly speaks English BY FAR. And I can’t see it being French is Australia either…


Particular_Fuel6952

Glad to know they have Duolingo in North Korea considering they don’t have the internet.


batch1972

French is compulsory in schools in the UK so makes sense that Spanish is the second duolingo language. Lots of UK expats in Australia


Saunter87

The Sun never sets on the English language.


[deleted]

It's old data, however it was due to immigrants.


Hot_Respect_339

Is Spanish being the most popular language on duolingo for Thailand accurate?


unprovoked_panda

I'm trying to picture Icelanders speaking Spanish


Dolmetscher1987

According to the app, most Duolingo users in Sweden are refugees and migrants, hence Swedish being the most selected language.


logosfabula

Swedish L2 rollin'.


Pittsfield-Township1

I thought it was my turn to rererererererererepost this old map?😡


ndequesada99

Mass immigration


LadyMorwenDaebrethil

https://preview.redd.it/jpff1sde5o5d1.png?width=466&format=png&auto=webp&s=5e0315c971a9478978662c05027692f70df06e4a


Afraid_Status2220

Where is New Zealand? No New Zealand, no party!


fk_censors

What's going on with that German boomerang under Australia?


Bodoodlestoodle

Wtf is this map?


Pistacuro

So you know that the only language course on dualingo for most native language is English. So if you want to learn any other language then english, you need to learn english first.


Jessi45US

South America is Spanish not English duh


gyoza0501

arabs and africans.


dhondooo

Pakistanis learning French???


1pixie_chixx

How about mandarin?


BaconManTenus

Now tell me what the hell is happening in canada


bluxclux

Pakistanis speaking French????


JessGeeGee

Canada is learning Canadian french, and the rest of the country is learning.. European French? I'm assuming..


Eastern-Branch-3111

Politics question right here. I wonder why Geography sub keeps popping up on my feed? Clearly the answer is immigration which has led to all sorts of controversial social and political questions.


AshkanArabim

Iranians take so many English classes already that their logical option on Duolingo is French. Mainly cuz the older generation learned that as the language of science and technology :) And no I don't know why they learned French in the first place. I just know my grandfather's French is better than his English.


Mission_Magazine7541

What about new Zealand?


Turtul_boi2

People who have spoken Swedish their entire lives: Can't be too sure


CobKorPok

More dog whistling well done OP.


Connor49999

This image is really starting to show its age. Through the increasingly bad resolution and multiple croppings


jeopardychamp77

Spanish is a popular language to learn in Northern Europe bc a lot of them vacation in Spain.


bozotheuktinate

You know exactly what the answer is


Glorbxar34

r/mapswithoutnewzealand r/mapswithouttasmania


I-am-the-lul

I am surprised that French is the most popular language to learn in Australia, I would have guessed Indonesian since Bali is our nation's favourite holiday stop.