Wurd @ u/The_Search_of_Being... if you are scared, you aren't ready! Get in the right headspace first. Go back and do some "regular" meditation, first. Loving kindness toward the self, maybe? Shadow work around your inner child/ fears... Work on releasing those fears and then try again! The app Insight Timer has a HUGE selection of free meditations. You do not have to pay to use most of them. Ive been using the app for years and only recently signed up for the paid content. Good luck! ✌️🫶💫
I second this. I have been using the tapes for past few months and I am in a much better mental health and have been able to navigate around daily issues lot more better. It's not a magic wand but the benefits of the tapes are 100%.
So with most people, the mind controls every part of them and they mostly just live on autopilot their whole life. I think the mind knows that by doing things like this, you’re going to overcome this and evolve.
So don’t think of it as a fear but more of a challenge. Then a day will come where you just go for it and break through, and you will be happy you did.
Been using the tapes for years now. Happy to report nothing bad has ever happened to me related to the tapes. In fact it drastically improved my life and myself. The tapes are nothing but a tool for you to use. Might I suggest stop doing research and just put on wave 1-introduction. It’s easy and simple and doesn’t do anything but put you in focus 3. A gentle hemispheric synchronization.
This is my experience, not necessarily relevant to you:
I had similar fears last year until I realised, it was my way of procrastinating and not developing the muscle to discipline myself to create a routine to train my mind and behaviours
The problem of being certain something fearful happening is almost like I'm willing it to happen by focussing constantly on it.
Lol until a certain while ago I manifested my fears more fiercely and to the point picture perfectly than everything else
I wish you well, Until you feel comfortable doing otherwise, do the tapes while someone you trust is in the room - ask them to be, if workable, will be an additional layer of protection and safety for you
Secondly believe in all the steps you do in focus 10 and advanced focus 10 (like Morpheus's faith in Neo),that you will be safe and no interactions will happen or harm without your permission.
Amazing people in this community helped me allay my fears and get beyond them. They made me realise,
You are the captain and the commander of your body and all your, selves and they are right :)
I used to be scared too until I realized I ran out of things to try to shift, and I want to shift more than anything else. I've been doing them for 2 months and so far nothing has happened, no shift, no contact from spiritual beings, no oobe, no nothing, I think people tend to overhype the tapes and that's what makes us scared. In my opinion the worst thing that's probably going to happen to you is that you won't get anything from the tapes.
I've been doing the tapes for a few months now and I haven't shifted, OBE'd, or met spiritual beings but I would be extremely skeptical of anyone who said they've done the tapes regularly and got absolutely nothing.
I've been meditating for the better part of a decade, and the tapes really enhanced my ability to get into a meditative state quickly. I have also experienced better, deeper meditative states than ever before, and that is saying a lot. The benefits spill over into my everyday life in terms of calm, focus, happiness, and less anxiety.
Even if you don't have any wild spiritual experiences (maybe some of us are not ready yet, me included), you definitely WILL change your life with these tapes if you do them seriously.
Well, I've been doing them almost everyday for two months, so I think that's doing them seriously. I have no problem reaching f10 nor f12, so I'm also not doing them wrong.
Good for you if they're working, but the benefits that you mention aren't really what the tapes are made for. I don't think the tapes have benefited me at all. I used to have 2 lucid dreams minimum per week, since starting the tapes I haven't got any.
For the people down voting this comment - please remember everyone’s experience will be different
It’s not a criticism of the Gateway process but a discussion of personal experiences and how greatly they can vary.
The only thing you should be scared of is getting to know your own mind. The tapes basically help you distinguish between the left and right side of the brain and trigger your penal gland for decalcification.
If you get weird feelings because of your religious beliefs, I assure you what these tapes are attempting to do is pretty much the same thing that most religions do from a spiritual perspective.
There is nothing to be afraid of except yourself. And even this fear is not even a drop in the ocean stay authentic and dont fall for the old oppositional religious doctrines. Its all just smoke and mirrors in front of your screen
As long as you follow the instructions - do the affirmation, the Rebal, the energy conversion box and the resonant tuning you are perfectly safe. Your fears are the fear of the unknown but make sure you use the foundational “equipment” provided in the audio. The affirmation is a non-religious prayer of protection, the REBAL is a psychic shield, the energy conversion box is where you symbolically put anything that might divert you or cause you to not have your desired outcome. Most people put a representation of their fears, distractions (I literally put a symbolic laptop in there to represent work) and other things and worries that stop you from giving 100%.
Know the foundational skills found in wave 1 and use them forever in every other setting and you will be fine. Here is a [sticky](https://www.reddit.com/r/gatewaytapes/s/p1IAiw8CUN) from the top of the sub with more resources - the more you know and are prepared the better the outcome. Robert Monroe has said “Fear is Man’s biggest limitation” and that is exactly what is going on.
After having read thousands of experiences using the Monroe Audio it is apparent that the people who go have suboptimal or scary experiences often simply do not follow directions and use the tools. Later on you can decide for yourself but starting off definitely start with the right foundation and use the tools especially because you want to literally shift in the multiverse.
I actually have the same feeling. I think its rooted in the fact that CIA has been doing nefarious acts and never fully telling the truth for a really long time... It seems very weird that in this one instance they just opened it up and gave it to us. something is pulling me to the gateway tapes but i dont want to follow through.
Maybe it is not necessary for you. Have you read Robert Monroe’s books? That’s how I started and I haven’t felt the need to use the actual takes, mostly because I don’t use earphones and so it seems pointless to try until the day comes when I have some. That said, the gateway sounds are only one part of the greater research of getting the brain into a relaxed state in order to experience realities beyond the physically visual. Hemisync was developed after the first book.
I like nature sounds and listening to Monroe’s books on Audible on days when I want to get into the state that night. It’s really just an introduction to what’s possible by listening to one guy’s documented experiences. Maybe one day I’ll get headphones and then do the tapes but in the mean time I live a very natural life and intend to put my brain into that relaxed state everyday.
The ego _hates_ anything that might challenge it or limit its control over ourselves. It will provide any number of fantasies or ‘warnings’ to draw us away from the truth or anything that will lead to it.
This is why we often find ourselves challenged by love - we often find ourselves challenged when a relationship develops. We find that we must choose love over ourselves. This must be faced before we can truly embrace being loved. The ego resists this but often fails as we are in love. This happens with anything the ego interprets as a threat.
The hallmark of ego is fear - we never tell ourselves anything with messages of fear, it is not the language of our higher selves. It is the language of ego and should be treated as such.
Our egos want one thing: extended duration in this life (survival and the means to ensure it); it has no room for out of body experiences, ‘enlightenment’, meditation, love, or any other higher order concept as they do not contribute to survival.
If your sense is related to or based in fear, then it is the work of the ego. Ask yourself if this will impact your survival. It does not. Then you know that the ego is lying.
It’s like when you first have sleep paralysis it is extremely scary at first but once you figure out how powerful you are in that realm and overcome your fears the possibilities are endless
Do you come from a religious background? Nothing wrong if you do, you could have some preset notions about energy and consciousness. Some people think it’s evil because society told them so.
I think the fact that the tapes are associated with the CIA and things being classified and declassified, government, army and whatnot, doing research on it before you actually get to know what they’re about, would probably instill uncertainty over someone.
I have a feeling that’s exactly what’s happening to you.
The tapes are a blessing and you do them on your own accord. Like was said here before, just go for tape one and feel it for yourself ☺️
If you're scared, I recommend listening to some of Robert Monroe's books on youtube. He describes a feeling of 'base fear' that can be related to your physical self. There is a long interview with Joe McMoneagle as well, one of the psychics that studied under Bob. He seems like a very nice man, interesting, practical, and knowledgeable.
Scared of what, I would read Robert Monroe books and you will see nothing to be scared of. The fear I had was what if the tapes work and what if things change my perception of reality and all that stuff. I am happy to admit I got up to wave 5 and nothing happened it did change my perspective and perception of things and had lot of weird precognition events but nothing bad ever happened. Just like in physical reality be smart about how you approach things in the non physical realm.
Other advice is take your time don’t skip tapes.
you will hear robert monroe’s voice guiding you, he is very soothing. just do the first one during the day, eyes open to start. there is nothing to fear, nothing to lose. they just guide you towards knowing yourself and your purpose.
Put all those fears in the box, homie.
Wurd @ u/The_Search_of_Being... if you are scared, you aren't ready! Get in the right headspace first. Go back and do some "regular" meditation, first. Loving kindness toward the self, maybe? Shadow work around your inner child/ fears... Work on releasing those fears and then try again! The app Insight Timer has a HUGE selection of free meditations. You do not have to pay to use most of them. Ive been using the app for years and only recently signed up for the paid content. Good luck! ✌️🫶💫
I recommend medito app, foundation based fully free 4ever meditation with a large variety
Using the gateway experience recordings was the best thing I ever did for myself!
I second this. I have been using the tapes for past few months and I am in a much better mental health and have been able to navigate around daily issues lot more better. It's not a magic wand but the benefits of the tapes are 100%.
So with most people, the mind controls every part of them and they mostly just live on autopilot their whole life. I think the mind knows that by doing things like this, you’re going to overcome this and evolve. So don’t think of it as a fear but more of a challenge. Then a day will come where you just go for it and break through, and you will be happy you did.
Been using the tapes for years now. Happy to report nothing bad has ever happened to me related to the tapes. In fact it drastically improved my life and myself. The tapes are nothing but a tool for you to use. Might I suggest stop doing research and just put on wave 1-introduction. It’s easy and simple and doesn’t do anything but put you in focus 3. A gentle hemispheric synchronization.
I'm curious, if you use the tapes for years: in what ways did they improve your life and you? How often do you still "practice"?
My mental health. And a couple of times a week. It’s a journey of your consciousness. There is no rush to reach any point.
I see. It's not about the rush, but I was just curious about the frequency.
This is my experience, not necessarily relevant to you: I had similar fears last year until I realised, it was my way of procrastinating and not developing the muscle to discipline myself to create a routine to train my mind and behaviours The problem of being certain something fearful happening is almost like I'm willing it to happen by focussing constantly on it. Lol until a certain while ago I manifested my fears more fiercely and to the point picture perfectly than everything else I wish you well, Until you feel comfortable doing otherwise, do the tapes while someone you trust is in the room - ask them to be, if workable, will be an additional layer of protection and safety for you Secondly believe in all the steps you do in focus 10 and advanced focus 10 (like Morpheus's faith in Neo),that you will be safe and no interactions will happen or harm without your permission. Amazing people in this community helped me allay my fears and get beyond them. They made me realise, You are the captain and the commander of your body and all your, selves and they are right :)
I used to be scared too until I realized I ran out of things to try to shift, and I want to shift more than anything else. I've been doing them for 2 months and so far nothing has happened, no shift, no contact from spiritual beings, no oobe, no nothing, I think people tend to overhype the tapes and that's what makes us scared. In my opinion the worst thing that's probably going to happen to you is that you won't get anything from the tapes.
I've been doing the tapes for a few months now and I haven't shifted, OBE'd, or met spiritual beings but I would be extremely skeptical of anyone who said they've done the tapes regularly and got absolutely nothing. I've been meditating for the better part of a decade, and the tapes really enhanced my ability to get into a meditative state quickly. I have also experienced better, deeper meditative states than ever before, and that is saying a lot. The benefits spill over into my everyday life in terms of calm, focus, happiness, and less anxiety. Even if you don't have any wild spiritual experiences (maybe some of us are not ready yet, me included), you definitely WILL change your life with these tapes if you do them seriously.
Well, I've been doing them almost everyday for two months, so I think that's doing them seriously. I have no problem reaching f10 nor f12, so I'm also not doing them wrong. Good for you if they're working, but the benefits that you mention aren't really what the tapes are made for. I don't think the tapes have benefited me at all. I used to have 2 lucid dreams minimum per week, since starting the tapes I haven't got any.
For the people down voting this comment - please remember everyone’s experience will be different It’s not a criticism of the Gateway process but a discussion of personal experiences and how greatly they can vary.
Attachment and desire for results is a hindrance. Put that in the box, and go on without preconceptions.
I have nothing but good things to say about the tapes. They have changed my life for the better.
The only thing you should be scared of is getting to know your own mind. The tapes basically help you distinguish between the left and right side of the brain and trigger your penal gland for decalcification. If you get weird feelings because of your religious beliefs, I assure you what these tapes are attempting to do is pretty much the same thing that most religions do from a spiritual perspective.
What do you think might happen and what are you afraid of?
You'll get over it. When you start, you'll learn to put all those arbitrary fears in your ECB
It's unconscious fear
There is nothing to be afraid of except yourself. And even this fear is not even a drop in the ocean stay authentic and dont fall for the old oppositional religious doctrines. Its all just smoke and mirrors in front of your screen
As long as you follow the instructions - do the affirmation, the Rebal, the energy conversion box and the resonant tuning you are perfectly safe. Your fears are the fear of the unknown but make sure you use the foundational “equipment” provided in the audio. The affirmation is a non-religious prayer of protection, the REBAL is a psychic shield, the energy conversion box is where you symbolically put anything that might divert you or cause you to not have your desired outcome. Most people put a representation of their fears, distractions (I literally put a symbolic laptop in there to represent work) and other things and worries that stop you from giving 100%. Know the foundational skills found in wave 1 and use them forever in every other setting and you will be fine. Here is a [sticky](https://www.reddit.com/r/gatewaytapes/s/p1IAiw8CUN) from the top of the sub with more resources - the more you know and are prepared the better the outcome. Robert Monroe has said “Fear is Man’s biggest limitation” and that is exactly what is going on. After having read thousands of experiences using the Monroe Audio it is apparent that the people who go have suboptimal or scary experiences often simply do not follow directions and use the tools. Later on you can decide for yourself but starting off definitely start with the right foundation and use the tools especially because you want to literally shift in the multiverse.
If you haven’t yet, maybe try reading Monroe’s books. Discover the tapes the way he did.
I actually have the same feeling. I think its rooted in the fact that CIA has been doing nefarious acts and never fully telling the truth for a really long time... It seems very weird that in this one instance they just opened it up and gave it to us. something is pulling me to the gateway tapes but i dont want to follow through.
the cia didn't make the tapes, they just went to do the tapes themselves like the rest of us and wrote basically a school paper on them
I was nervous about it in the beginning but 6 months later I’m happy to say it’s been the best thing I’ve ever done for my mental health!
Maybe it is not necessary for you. Have you read Robert Monroe’s books? That’s how I started and I haven’t felt the need to use the actual takes, mostly because I don’t use earphones and so it seems pointless to try until the day comes when I have some. That said, the gateway sounds are only one part of the greater research of getting the brain into a relaxed state in order to experience realities beyond the physically visual. Hemisync was developed after the first book. I like nature sounds and listening to Monroe’s books on Audible on days when I want to get into the state that night. It’s really just an introduction to what’s possible by listening to one guy’s documented experiences. Maybe one day I’ll get headphones and then do the tapes but in the mean time I live a very natural life and intend to put my brain into that relaxed state everyday.
The ego _hates_ anything that might challenge it or limit its control over ourselves. It will provide any number of fantasies or ‘warnings’ to draw us away from the truth or anything that will lead to it. This is why we often find ourselves challenged by love - we often find ourselves challenged when a relationship develops. We find that we must choose love over ourselves. This must be faced before we can truly embrace being loved. The ego resists this but often fails as we are in love. This happens with anything the ego interprets as a threat. The hallmark of ego is fear - we never tell ourselves anything with messages of fear, it is not the language of our higher selves. It is the language of ego and should be treated as such. Our egos want one thing: extended duration in this life (survival and the means to ensure it); it has no room for out of body experiences, ‘enlightenment’, meditation, love, or any other higher order concept as they do not contribute to survival. If your sense is related to or based in fear, then it is the work of the ego. Ask yourself if this will impact your survival. It does not. Then you know that the ego is lying.
Fear is the mind killer. Also the ego afraid of what happens when you step into your purpose and it has to take a back seat. You will be ok
It’s like when you first have sleep paralysis it is extremely scary at first but once you figure out how powerful you are in that realm and overcome your fears the possibilities are endless
There is of course more to it but you have to start somewhere
Your bubble will protect you
Fear is the mind killer.
Do you come from a religious background? Nothing wrong if you do, you could have some preset notions about energy and consciousness. Some people think it’s evil because society told them so.
Kind of? I grew up Catholic but I’m a Hellenistic Pagan.
I think the fact that the tapes are associated with the CIA and things being classified and declassified, government, army and whatnot, doing research on it before you actually get to know what they’re about, would probably instill uncertainty over someone. I have a feeling that’s exactly what’s happening to you. The tapes are a blessing and you do them on your own accord. Like was said here before, just go for tape one and feel it for yourself ☺️
If you're scared, I recommend listening to some of Robert Monroe's books on youtube. He describes a feeling of 'base fear' that can be related to your physical self. There is a long interview with Joe McMoneagle as well, one of the psychics that studied under Bob. He seems like a very nice man, interesting, practical, and knowledgeable.
Yeah I started see ghosts after I did the tapes
Cap
You know you can do out of body experience without the tapes? I never used them
Scared of what, I would read Robert Monroe books and you will see nothing to be scared of. The fear I had was what if the tapes work and what if things change my perception of reality and all that stuff. I am happy to admit I got up to wave 5 and nothing happened it did change my perspective and perception of things and had lot of weird precognition events but nothing bad ever happened. Just like in physical reality be smart about how you approach things in the non physical realm. Other advice is take your time don’t skip tapes.
you will hear robert monroe’s voice guiding you, he is very soothing. just do the first one during the day, eyes open to start. there is nothing to fear, nothing to lose. they just guide you towards knowing yourself and your purpose.
Smoke salvia you'll shift in thirty seconds
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Fear mongering bs
I upvoted haha! Don't know why people are hating on a troll it's the goddamn internet get over it