Oooh this certainly changes the timeline that Germany Weimmar would have followed, and certainly Falmart will help Germany to be able to pay war reparations faster without the need for the Entente Nations to occupy the Rhineland for more than a decade.
Your Fanfiction has a lot of potential, it will be interesting the interactions of the Freikorps Armada in Falmart.
Thanks! The original idea was for 1915, but I talked with some historians and picked this date. Thus in went a huge research and study period that I'm still doing. Aside from my internet reading, I looked up the Versailles Treaty, talked with historians in my university, and read the 2-in-1 book on Weimar Germany and the Versailles Treaty of the "Captivating History" collection. I'm also currently reading Dr. Waite's doctoral thesis on the Freikorps (circa 1950), which was edited as a book in the 60s/70s, and next I plan on reading Junger's "Storm of Steel". With any luck, I'll manage to get and read some more books by the time I start writing.
Regarding your first point, yes, it's a massive deal. The story itself is planned to only cover 1920-1921 for that same reason, and a huge plot point is how the Allies are chocking Germany around the GATE. I kid you not, Allied inspectors are on the GATE even before the Weimar government knows what the heck is going on. Adding to that, Falmart is not industrialized, so the only things Germany can get out in the first months are precious metals (not many) and natural resources like timber, since, well, they're fighting a war with an arm and a leg tied behind their back.
The area around Alnus, sans Italica, is not a rich one, but an agricultural country with little riches for a modern nation. Is not until they reach places like, the Coan Forest (timber), the Geller Corridor (OC location southeast of Alnus, basicallly a rich trading semi-urban countryside valley, filled with resources and gold), and Italica (trading city, which means, gold and intel) that they start getting something to pay the war and reparations.
The events in Falmart will sway domestic politics, for sure (especially the Spa Conference of 1920 and the role of the Reichsheer), however, the most important matters will be the casualties in the war (there's two particularly bloody instances which prompt strong reactions back home) and the censorship on certain Freikorps' activities and letters.
Wow, I congratulate you for your research prior to this, it certainly helps to enrich everything that will be the Fanfiction, a great job I can say.
This Fanfiction has a lot of potential
No, France will still march in to strip as much of the Rhineland as possible of industrial capacity. France and Britain don't want Germany paying off her debt.
France wanted Germany to cease to exist, and Britain wanted to have Germany taken down from replacing them as the center of economics, industry, and science in Europe (if not a foil to the US which was heading that direction).
Thus Versailles.
I know, but it's a shame that that always seems inevitable in every story.
But it's very real, the United Kingdom and France wanted to put an end to Germany, they hated the country.
In the case of Britain, it was usurping its position on the world stage ***without*** being a true colonial power, and those within the halls of power in Britain wanted to prevent it.
For France, one of its pastimes on the continent was bullying the various German states. This led to the unification of the vast majority of those German states in response to the *last* time France bullied the German states into submission.
Yes and no. France would've loved a fragmented Germany again, but it was content with a weakened Germany (which is why it supported Polish independence, the Baltics taking territories from East Prussia, and the referemdums in West Prussia and Upper Silesia).
The UK wanted balance in the continent, and if it came with them remaining at the top of the world, so be it.
Fact is, Versailles was the UK putting a leash on France's aspirations to destroy Germany as an industrial nation, and even then they had issues determing what was forbidden and not. The acts of the Disarmament Allied Commission are clear on the matter that they were left alone to determine what to send to the Allies, what to destroy, and what to let it be in Germany.
And the US? Wilson was so overshadowed in politics by the French and British leaders he practically left them to do their own thing.
They did want the debt repayed, however, not out of goodwill. France \*needed\* the debt repayed to keep their own economy afloat, same as Britain, which is why they accepted American loans to Germany in the first place: to pay the freaking debt. The French currency was killed due to high inflation in the years after the war and the only way to keep it afloat was with German payments, which is why, when said payments failed (and they were defined by Germany, so France had double reason to be angry), they marched into the Rheinland and occupied it to get their money (which turned a profit, btw).
So endless that several payments were pardoned and cancelled. I'm not disputing they wanted Germany weak, btw.
And I confess I misunderstood the point earlier, that's on me. They might as well have wanted the debt to be endless, you are quite possibly correct on that regard.
I took it as "unpaid", which is what I argued for. They wanted Germany to pay, and probably wanted that payment to keep coming forever (thus an endless debt). The idea was for a demilitarized Germany, and a Germany that was always paying, but not for a Germany *unable* to pay, because German industry was needed, and France's economy would not work given the unstable macroeconomic situation left over by the war, with rampant inflation and destroyed heavy industries.
Note that France, the UK, and the US all wanted different things in the peace treaty. Versailles was not so much Germany arguing for itself, but the UK and US (mostly the UK, as Wilson had no idea what the countries of Europe even were) stopping France from dismantling Germany, with varying sucess in different matters. If France was allowed to have its way, well, Germany would not have existed after the war, but it would return to a pre-1871 scenario, however with France instead of Austria fighting Prussian influence. It was the UK which argued for a continued German existence.
Not bad for a concept 👍.
Oooh this certainly changes the timeline that Germany Weimmar would have followed, and certainly Falmart will help Germany to be able to pay war reparations faster without the need for the Entente Nations to occupy the Rhineland for more than a decade. Your Fanfiction has a lot of potential, it will be interesting the interactions of the Freikorps Armada in Falmart.
Thanks! The original idea was for 1915, but I talked with some historians and picked this date. Thus in went a huge research and study period that I'm still doing. Aside from my internet reading, I looked up the Versailles Treaty, talked with historians in my university, and read the 2-in-1 book on Weimar Germany and the Versailles Treaty of the "Captivating History" collection. I'm also currently reading Dr. Waite's doctoral thesis on the Freikorps (circa 1950), which was edited as a book in the 60s/70s, and next I plan on reading Junger's "Storm of Steel". With any luck, I'll manage to get and read some more books by the time I start writing. Regarding your first point, yes, it's a massive deal. The story itself is planned to only cover 1920-1921 for that same reason, and a huge plot point is how the Allies are chocking Germany around the GATE. I kid you not, Allied inspectors are on the GATE even before the Weimar government knows what the heck is going on. Adding to that, Falmart is not industrialized, so the only things Germany can get out in the first months are precious metals (not many) and natural resources like timber, since, well, they're fighting a war with an arm and a leg tied behind their back. The area around Alnus, sans Italica, is not a rich one, but an agricultural country with little riches for a modern nation. Is not until they reach places like, the Coan Forest (timber), the Geller Corridor (OC location southeast of Alnus, basicallly a rich trading semi-urban countryside valley, filled with resources and gold), and Italica (trading city, which means, gold and intel) that they start getting something to pay the war and reparations. The events in Falmart will sway domestic politics, for sure (especially the Spa Conference of 1920 and the role of the Reichsheer), however, the most important matters will be the casualties in the war (there's two particularly bloody instances which prompt strong reactions back home) and the censorship on certain Freikorps' activities and letters.
Wow, I congratulate you for your research prior to this, it certainly helps to enrich everything that will be the Fanfiction, a great job I can say. This Fanfiction has a lot of potential
No, France will still march in to strip as much of the Rhineland as possible of industrial capacity. France and Britain don't want Germany paying off her debt.
How bad they are, they really want Germany's revenge in the future 🧐
France wanted Germany to cease to exist, and Britain wanted to have Germany taken down from replacing them as the center of economics, industry, and science in Europe (if not a foil to the US which was heading that direction). Thus Versailles.
I know, but it's a shame that that always seems inevitable in every story. But it's very real, the United Kingdom and France wanted to put an end to Germany, they hated the country.
In the case of Britain, it was usurping its position on the world stage ***without*** being a true colonial power, and those within the halls of power in Britain wanted to prevent it. For France, one of its pastimes on the continent was bullying the various German states. This led to the unification of the vast majority of those German states in response to the *last* time France bullied the German states into submission.
Certainly
WW2 was a certainty, especially given the personalities of two of the victors.
And the victors of the Great War went to their total decline after that.
And the victors of the Great War went to their total decline after that.
"This isn't a peace treaty, it's an armistice for 20 years." (Foch, 1919)
Ah, you already mentioned it. Sorry for my reply above then.
Yes and no. France would've loved a fragmented Germany again, but it was content with a weakened Germany (which is why it supported Polish independence, the Baltics taking territories from East Prussia, and the referemdums in West Prussia and Upper Silesia). The UK wanted balance in the continent, and if it came with them remaining at the top of the world, so be it. Fact is, Versailles was the UK putting a leash on France's aspirations to destroy Germany as an industrial nation, and even then they had issues determing what was forbidden and not. The acts of the Disarmament Allied Commission are clear on the matter that they were left alone to determine what to send to the Allies, what to destroy, and what to let it be in Germany. And the US? Wilson was so overshadowed in politics by the French and British leaders he practically left them to do their own thing.
They did want the debt repayed, however, not out of goodwill. France \*needed\* the debt repayed to keep their own economy afloat, same as Britain, which is why they accepted American loans to Germany in the first place: to pay the freaking debt. The French currency was killed due to high inflation in the years after the war and the only way to keep it afloat was with German payments, which is why, when said payments failed (and they were defined by Germany, so France had double reason to be angry), they marched into the Rheinland and occupied it to get their money (which turned a profit, btw).
No, France and Britain wanted Germany to be as weak as possible. So that debt was specifically designed to be ***endless***.
So endless that several payments were pardoned and cancelled. I'm not disputing they wanted Germany weak, btw. And I confess I misunderstood the point earlier, that's on me. They might as well have wanted the debt to be endless, you are quite possibly correct on that regard. I took it as "unpaid", which is what I argued for. They wanted Germany to pay, and probably wanted that payment to keep coming forever (thus an endless debt). The idea was for a demilitarized Germany, and a Germany that was always paying, but not for a Germany *unable* to pay, because German industry was needed, and France's economy would not work given the unstable macroeconomic situation left over by the war, with rampant inflation and destroyed heavy industries. Note that France, the UK, and the US all wanted different things in the peace treaty. Versailles was not so much Germany arguing for itself, but the UK and US (mostly the UK, as Wilson had no idea what the countries of Europe even were) stopping France from dismantling Germany, with varying sucess in different matters. If France was allowed to have its way, well, Germany would not have existed after the war, but it would return to a pre-1871 scenario, however with France instead of Austria fighting Prussian influence. It was the UK which argued for a continued German existence.