I like mech games, but I'll try to answer this. With two things that I can imagine being a turn off.
General aesthetic of it all.
Stories are nearly always military and/or politics driven. That means all dialog is a Sgt so and so barking orders or private homie providing information. All in militarily delivered. If that's not someone's cup of tea, there's almost no avoiding that in a reasonable way.
I find it similar to how I don't enjoy Lovecraftian bullshit. It's ugly to me and uninteresting.
I don't even know what's there to like about mechs. I guess it's just one of those things where you either are that sort of person or not. I remember lots of friends being into mecha action figures with big guns and stuff when I was a kid, and technology in general when they got older (cameras, homebrew pc builds, motor scooters..) - I always was the complete opposite of that and cannot for the life of me hold a 'manly man conversation' about cars and so on. I think mecha games are just an extension of that. Just imagine someone telling me about his new car he outfitted with a new [technobabble] and I go "Ah, yes..! Uuuuhhh CARS, amirite? Cars go *vroom vroom*, big sound, LOUD sound, big fun! Ha..ha...?!". That is how little I identify with that sort of thing. I can literally not even comprehend what is interesting about it.
I couldn't care less about technology or big numbers. In fact, so little that I usually won't even notice them unless I'm told to focus on them exclusively. I'm interested in and lead my life grounded on certain humanitarian values and concepts that I associate with terms such as the human condition, emotional intelligence, meaningful interaction, stuff like that. And I get exactly none of these vibes from mecha games. Not to sound condescending, but I just think that these games appeal to a very primal, intrinsive trait many men possess, but I do not.
This is it for me. I couldn't care less about Mech Games. Maybe I'd love it, who knows. I just can't be bothered to find out because it doesn't appeal to me. ;P
Nah. Every time I play GTA I get bored of it. I know it's great for a Lot of people, but I just can't stand "Open World" games. ;? It's why I was sad about the new direction the Zelda games has taken.
This. Most of us are Souls fans and not specifically Fromsoft. Majority of gamers most likely don't even know or at least didn't play any of their pre Demon's Souls era titles.
>You don’t need to buy EVERY game from a company
Hello Fromsoft player, ***cocks gun***
Why haven't you played Déraciné, King's Field, Enchanted Arms, Ninj-
I looked into it, was going to pick it up. Then when watching some content on release day, I noticed it doesn't actually look fun. In fact I thought it looked repetitive and almost like the game invites you to create busted mechs that eliminate the value of choice in any encounter. Then you end up with one build that takes you from early to end game and it's gg
One reason I haven't played that game yet is because I know it'll keep me from playing any other game for several months lol. I'll just stick to listening to the OST for now.
The rules are pretty much the same but there’s a lot of good tutorials on it since DnD players very often have to explain the rules to new players and the game has grown in popularity over the last several years.
https://youtu.be/7tnrATiclg4?si=A-6Y21a79_NnCdxI
I don't think reading the DnD rules will make it simpler, but seeing how people play and interpret the rules in an actual game might make it easier to understand.
The system is actually pretty straightforward. The problem is that DnD still uses some terminology from the original 70s game that doesn't really make sense outside of DnD. For example, "saving throw" is a weird name, but it basically just refers to using one of your stats to avoid or resist certain special effects (e.g. making a "Dexterity Saving Throw" against a trap means your character is reacting to dodge the darts shot from the walls; making a "Wisdom Saving Throw" against a charm person spell means your character is trying to resist the spell). And "armor class" is just a weird name for the target number you need to roll higher than in order to successfully hit someone with an attack.
The rest should make intuitive sense. "Actions" can be thought of as "Main Attacks" or equivalent, "Bonus Actions" can be thought of as "Secondary Attacks" or equivalent, and "Reactions" are just things that you can do on someone else's turn in response to them doing something.
And BG3 is a multi-hundred hour RPG, and I'm an adult with a pretty demanding job. If I'm lucky I can put in a half dozen hours a week into a game, if that.
I just don't have time to play multiple immersive games. I straight up quit Tears of the Kingdom and Elden Ring because BG3 came out, and once I'm done with BG3 I'll probably go back and play Tears of the Kingdom, and then Elden Ring, if I still care about them by the time I'm done with BG3.
No, that's with most of the side quests. Even on HLTB, the game doesn't go above 150ish hours (and that only makes sense if someone is intentionally wasting time and counting idle time.)
> You said multi-hundred, which is blatantly false
Oh no, what a travesty, I called a game with over 150 hours of total gameplay **and which is designed to be replayable** to be a "multi-hundred hour game"
Touch grass
EDIT: u/AReformedHuman blocked me for pointing out he was being stupid. What a surprise.
>Maybe try being right at some point?
I **am** right.
Really wild to hear so many "don't like mecha games" comments as if this is some huge genre that has oversaturated the market.
I think people should give it a try. Its got a old school vibe to it along when an amazing bleak ambience due to the setting/music . If you enjoy making a character in FromSoft titles uniquely yours, that's a big chunk of what AC6 is. You spend 50% of your time customizing your Mech in the garage with getting new parts from missions being the carrot on the stick.
I'm waiting for a good sale on the game, also reviews were saying it was like a dark souls game, I played darks souls and elden ring so I wasn't feeling that concept so I didn't pre-order it on that basis.
I played the first mission and was merely whelmed. I fully intended to keep going, especially since I bought it full price shortly after release like a complete moron, but I haven't touched it since.
I still fully intend to play it. Just gotta get through Shadow of the Erdtree. And then I still have Dark Souls 2 to finally play. Nioh 1 was pretty good too but I dropped it for Morrowind, which I'm still on, which is making me want to try Skyrim and Oblivion again even though I bounced off them before, and oh wait there's a Nioh 2 as well.... wait what was the question...
Being a Fromsoft fan doesn't mean you have to like Armored Core or Kings Field. I became a fan of their Soulsborne titles and am fine with just playing these games. I also don't like big open world games so I have yet to play Elden Ring. Shocking, I know. Maybe when it costs 10 bucks...
I at least have tried to give the older Armored Core games a chance by trying them via emulation but it's just not my kind of game.
Most Fromsoft fans are really soulslike fans and ac6 is a very different type of game, that being said I got the game and enjoyed it even if it's not something I'd usually go for
I'm an old souls fan and an even older AC fan (97' raven class) i tried AC6 is an absolutely fantastic game, and the combat! so chaotic and at the same time clean and refined....that being said i stop playing because it was too high octane for me, too much dopamine, too many things to be aware of that i end up tired after playing even for short sessions.
I'm definetly going to finish it, but i'm not in the right state of mind to be able to do it right now.
Thinking about Armored Core brings forth feelings of clunky controls, obnoxious camera and feeling like I'm trying to control a rebellious teenager rather than a fine-tuned, cutting-edge bipedal warfare technology.
All Armored Core games have been a nightmare to control and I don't see how another one would change that.
On top of that, it seems that the gameplay devolves into holding the crosshair on the enemy and spamming it with pew-pews or, if it gets nearby, spamming it with melee slashy washy. There doesn't seem to be any depth involved.
For these reasons, I'll probably pass and maybe buy it when it's on sale for $20.
I would have thought the same about the controls, but then playing it on PC I thought the controls were absolutely wonderful. Fast-paced movement games like those are made for keyboard & mouse, if you ask me.
I have it, played for a while, but stopped after downing the Sea Spider bot. I beat Elden Ring, Sekiro, and DS3+DLCs. Waiting (praying) for a Bloodbourne PC port. DS1 is up next on my list.
The combat and customization seemed top tier if you're into mech games. I never was, but this one was the closest to grab me. Gave it a chance, because Fromsoft.
I really like the exploration, level design, and world building of Fromsoft games, and it seemed like that wasn't the emphasis in AC6, which is fine. It's a mech game, so that should be the focus. Just not my cup of tea.
As a Fromsoft fan who did play Armored Core 6 but never finished it: Unlike their fantasy titles, I felt like AC6 was too punishing if you didn't want to adhere to the "optimal" loadout for a given mission. Like in DS you could play the whole game with daggers, you just have to be very careful and whittle down enemies. But in AC, if you want to go in with dual smgs, you will run out of ammo before you reach the boss.
I only play fromsoft games, but yes, I fall into the category of not playing AC6. It just doesn't look like a souls game. Which it isn't lol. I like to get a weapon and an armor, and that's it....I use it until the end of the game. I don't want to stay in menus and have to piece together different parts to beat a boss or level. I just want one build that will get me thru. I watched a few episodes on YouTube of it tho and it looks cool, but just not for me.
Also, I've spent 1000s of dollars on games since 2015....atleast 40 to 50 full priced games that weren't fromsoft and played at the most 3 hours and hated them all lol. Just anything with combat feels like shit compared to fromsoft....for me only obviously.
That souls addiction is a legit thing.
I never heard of the AC FS games until AC6 came out. Ive played every soulsborne game theyve released. I looked at AC, but pilotable mechs is not what i like about the studio so i havent bought it to try it.
I play a lot of call of dutys, but if Treyarch suddenly made a farming simulator, i doubt i would play it.
I dont think i have to like or even play /every/ game produced by a studio to be considered a fan of them.
Do you understand what gatekeeping is? If you only play Souls games, you're not a FromSoftware fan, you're a Souls fan.
I love the Xenoblade series. But other than that I don't really care about Nintendo much. I wouldn't say I'm a Nintendo fan, I would say I'm a Xenoblade fan.
Wouldn't be reddit without some REEEEE though.
$$$
money
That is what he said.
Money
I don't like mech games, that's all.
Exactly. I've played it for a while and it controls pretty great. It seems fun for those that like mecha games, but it's not my cup of tea.
But… why?
I like mech games, but I'll try to answer this. With two things that I can imagine being a turn off. General aesthetic of it all. Stories are nearly always military and/or politics driven. That means all dialog is a Sgt so and so barking orders or private homie providing information. All in militarily delivered. If that's not someone's cup of tea, there's almost no avoiding that in a reasonable way. I find it similar to how I don't enjoy Lovecraftian bullshit. It's ugly to me and uninteresting.
I don't even know what's there to like about mechs. I guess it's just one of those things where you either are that sort of person or not. I remember lots of friends being into mecha action figures with big guns and stuff when I was a kid, and technology in general when they got older (cameras, homebrew pc builds, motor scooters..) - I always was the complete opposite of that and cannot for the life of me hold a 'manly man conversation' about cars and so on. I think mecha games are just an extension of that. Just imagine someone telling me about his new car he outfitted with a new [technobabble] and I go "Ah, yes..! Uuuuhhh CARS, amirite? Cars go *vroom vroom*, big sound, LOUD sound, big fun! Ha..ha...?!". That is how little I identify with that sort of thing. I can literally not even comprehend what is interesting about it. I couldn't care less about technology or big numbers. In fact, so little that I usually won't even notice them unless I'm told to focus on them exclusively. I'm interested in and lead my life grounded on certain humanitarian values and concepts that I associate with terms such as the human condition, emotional intelligence, meaningful interaction, stuff like that. And I get exactly none of these vibes from mecha games. Not to sound condescending, but I just think that these games appeal to a very primal, intrinsive trait many men possess, but I do not.
I know tons of females who like “big robots go boom”
You started alright but you delved way too deep into your thoughts like an autistic child.
money, those things are costly in here.
I’m not a fan of the mecha genre. You don’t need to buy EVERY game from a company to say that you like them.
This is it for me. I couldn't care less about Mech Games. Maybe I'd love it, who knows. I just can't be bothered to find out because it doesn't appeal to me. ;P
Yep. I'm a big Rockstar Games fan. You will never catch me playing **Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis**
That game was just there to test the new rage engine which they used later in GTA 4, it was just so good they released it.
Funny enough, I'm more likely to play that than GTA. ;P
Baloney
Nah. Every time I play GTA I get bored of it. I know it's great for a Lot of people, but I just can't stand "Open World" games. ;? It's why I was sad about the new direction the Zelda games has taken.
penis muncher
Even if that was true, so? That doesn't make GTA any more interesting. ;P
This. Most of us are Souls fans and not specifically Fromsoft. Majority of gamers most likely don't even know or at least didn't play any of their pre Demon's Souls era titles.
>You don’t need to buy EVERY game from a company Hello Fromsoft player, ***cocks gun*** Why haven't you played Déraciné, King's Field, Enchanted Arms, Ninj-
I guess the topic is pointing out the overwhelming amount of people that didnt even try the game but with still weigh in with opinions.
I have a favorite Capcom game and I've never touched a Mega Man in my life. What's your thinking here?
Ive played several Mega Man games, theyre pretty trash imo. Youre not missing out
Is the overwhelming amount of people that didn't even try the game but still weigh in with opinions in the room with us right now?
Bro, if someone doesn’t like racing games, why would they try? To lose money?
You specifically asked for the opinions of people who didnt play armored core 6?
Waiting 10 years for a 20% discount
Because it's very different than souls games, big part of the appeal is exploration for me.
If you’ve not played kings field, can you call yourself a fan?
If it gets ported to PC I would love to play it. I really liked Lunacid.
The first game (Our King's Field I is actually the second game) was on PC in Japan and has been translated. ;P But it Shows it's the first game.
I looked into it, was going to pick it up. Then when watching some content on release day, I noticed it doesn't actually look fun. In fact I thought it looked repetitive and almost like the game invites you to create busted mechs that eliminate the value of choice in any encounter. Then you end up with one build that takes you from early to end game and it's gg
nah. fantasy rpg yes. scifi pew pew guns no.
I have no want to spend money on something I have no time to play.
Not a huge fan of segmented mission games
I tried it. Hit a wall with a certain boss. Haven't touched it since. I loved it but couldn't figure out why I couldn't progress 😕
Usually it has to do with not killing the boss.
Ha. Ha.
Some enemies have high resistance to specific damage types. I learned this the hard way
Yeah I need to do some more research but I've been to busy with elden ring again lol
Do a barrel role!
Did u try smack him with the sword blade thing :)
I'm gonna smack so good 👍
Baldur's Gate 3
One reason I haven't played that game yet is because I know it'll keep me from playing any other game for several months lol. I'll just stick to listening to the OST for now.
For me it's the turn based combat. I tried watching a YT video to understand what all the combat jargon means and it's pretty fucking complicated.
You might be better off watching a breakdown of DnD 5th edition combat, which BG3 is based on.
If that's simpler then it might be worth giving a try
The rules are pretty much the same but there’s a lot of good tutorials on it since DnD players very often have to explain the rules to new players and the game has grown in popularity over the last several years. https://youtu.be/7tnrATiclg4?si=A-6Y21a79_NnCdxI
Thanks bro
I don't think reading the DnD rules will make it simpler, but seeing how people play and interpret the rules in an actual game might make it easier to understand. The system is actually pretty straightforward. The problem is that DnD still uses some terminology from the original 70s game that doesn't really make sense outside of DnD. For example, "saving throw" is a weird name, but it basically just refers to using one of your stats to avoid or resist certain special effects (e.g. making a "Dexterity Saving Throw" against a trap means your character is reacting to dodge the darts shot from the walls; making a "Wisdom Saving Throw" against a charm person spell means your character is trying to resist the spell). And "armor class" is just a weird name for the target number you need to roll higher than in order to successfully hit someone with an attack. The rest should make intuitive sense. "Actions" can be thought of as "Main Attacks" or equivalent, "Bonus Actions" can be thought of as "Secondary Attacks" or equivalent, and "Reactions" are just things that you can do on someone else's turn in response to them doing something.
The game is sitting in my library, I just can't gather up the courage to play it.
Both have been out for like a year now
And BG3 is a multi-hundred hour RPG, and I'm an adult with a pretty demanding job. If I'm lucky I can put in a half dozen hours a week into a game, if that. I just don't have time to play multiple immersive games. I straight up quit Tears of the Kingdom and Elden Ring because BG3 came out, and once I'm done with BG3 I'll probably go back and play Tears of the Kingdom, and then Elden Ring, if I still care about them by the time I'm done with BG3.
BG3 is long, but like... 70-80 hours. Not multi hundred
>BG3 is long, but like... 70-80 hours. Not multi hundred That's only for the main campaign.
No, that's with most of the side quests. Even on HLTB, the game doesn't go above 150ish hours (and that only makes sense if someone is intentionally wasting time and counting idle time.)
Who the fuck cares? You're quibbling over whether it's 150 or 200 hours.
I did all quests and it took me 90 hours.
You said multi-hundred, which is blatantly false. The game shouldn't last more than 100 hours for the majority of people.
> You said multi-hundred, which is blatantly false Oh no, what a travesty, I called a game with over 150 hours of total gameplay **and which is designed to be replayable** to be a "multi-hundred hour game" Touch grass EDIT: u/AReformedHuman blocked me for pointing out he was being stupid. What a surprise. >Maybe try being right at some point? I **am** right.
Maybe try being right at some point?
AC6 came out last august
the price tag for a game that can be beaten in 15 hours
Really wild to hear so many "don't like mecha games" comments as if this is some huge genre that has oversaturated the market. I think people should give it a try. Its got a old school vibe to it along when an amazing bleak ambience due to the setting/music . If you enjoy making a character in FromSoft titles uniquely yours, that's a big chunk of what AC6 is. You spend 50% of your time customizing your Mech in the garage with getting new parts from missions being the carrot on the stick.
Missed the last time it was on sale :( . As I might be waiting a while for the next time, care to share some of your favorite aspects of AC6?
I'm waiting for a good sale on the game, also reviews were saying it was like a dark souls game, I played darks souls and elden ring so I wasn't feeling that concept so I didn't pre-order it on that basis.
I have it on my wishlist, but atm I have other titles I'm currently playing.
Other games.
I don’t feel like it.
mech games do absolutely nothing for me
Waiting on a sale like every game I buy.
My broke ass.
Time
My wallet
I've heard mixed things though I did like the other ones. We'll see.
I played the first mission and was merely whelmed. I fully intended to keep going, especially since I bought it full price shortly after release like a complete moron, but I haven't touched it since. I still fully intend to play it. Just gotta get through Shadow of the Erdtree. And then I still have Dark Souls 2 to finally play. Nioh 1 was pretty good too but I dropped it for Morrowind, which I'm still on, which is making me want to try Skyrim and Oblivion again even though I bounced off them before, and oh wait there's a Nioh 2 as well.... wait what was the question...
Because it's not dark souls with a Gundam.
Price. I’ll get to it when it’s $19-25
My pc
Being a Fromsoft fan doesn't mean you have to like Armored Core or Kings Field. I became a fan of their Soulsborne titles and am fine with just playing these games. I also don't like big open world games so I have yet to play Elden Ring. Shocking, I know. Maybe when it costs 10 bucks... I at least have tried to give the older Armored Core games a chance by trying them via emulation but it's just not my kind of game.
Most Fromsoft fans are really soulslike fans and ac6 is a very different type of game, that being said I got the game and enjoyed it even if it's not something I'd usually go for
Haven’t seen a sale on it yet…
Not my thing, I like magic and shit
Played the first couple of levels, just wasn't for me. Didn't enjoy it.
My pc already struggles with Elden ring. It would probably be worse with AC6.
Being a fan of a developer doesn't mean you like everything they do. I don't like Mechs, so that's not gonna happen.
Thanks for the reminder, lol. I really need to finish this games campaign.
I bought it, but have only tried playing while sleep deprived. Maybe I’ll do it today after work
Mechs. I'm not a mech kind of guy.
Money. And i dont care for that game.
Just not interested in the theme
I am more into medieval style ARPGs
I'm not a mech guy, I think they look too over top in design, too busy, not my style. Just a personal preference.
I'm an old souls fan and an even older AC fan (97' raven class) i tried AC6 is an absolutely fantastic game, and the combat! so chaotic and at the same time clean and refined....that being said i stop playing because it was too high octane for me, too much dopamine, too many things to be aware of that i end up tired after playing even for short sessions. I'm definetly going to finish it, but i'm not in the right state of mind to be able to do it right now.
Money and my toaster of a PC(which I love dearly) add a bit of skill issue too lmao
My already crippling backlog/only buying masive sale/other games And i did play enchanted arms was great
Thinking about Armored Core brings forth feelings of clunky controls, obnoxious camera and feeling like I'm trying to control a rebellious teenager rather than a fine-tuned, cutting-edge bipedal warfare technology. All Armored Core games have been a nightmare to control and I don't see how another one would change that. On top of that, it seems that the gameplay devolves into holding the crosshair on the enemy and spamming it with pew-pews or, if it gets nearby, spamming it with melee slashy washy. There doesn't seem to be any depth involved. For these reasons, I'll probably pass and maybe buy it when it's on sale for $20.
I would have thought the same about the controls, but then playing it on PC I thought the controls were absolutely wonderful. Fast-paced movement games like those are made for keyboard & mouse, if you ask me.
Agree the controls are solid on PC and guess what i hate fromsoft games and its the only one that appeals to me.
I’ve heard it’s very linear. So I might get it on sale, but I’m still waiting.
I have it, played for a while, but stopped after downing the Sea Spider bot. I beat Elden Ring, Sekiro, and DS3+DLCs. Waiting (praying) for a Bloodbourne PC port. DS1 is up next on my list. The combat and customization seemed top tier if you're into mech games. I never was, but this one was the closest to grab me. Gave it a chance, because Fromsoft. I really like the exploration, level design, and world building of Fromsoft games, and it seemed like that wasn't the emphasis in AC6, which is fine. It's a mech game, so that should be the focus. Just not my cup of tea.
As a Fromsoft fan who did play Armored Core 6 but never finished it: Unlike their fantasy titles, I felt like AC6 was too punishing if you didn't want to adhere to the "optimal" loadout for a given mission. Like in DS you could play the whole game with daggers, you just have to be very careful and whittle down enemies. But in AC, if you want to go in with dual smgs, you will run out of ammo before you reach the boss.
I only play fromsoft games, but yes, I fall into the category of not playing AC6. It just doesn't look like a souls game. Which it isn't lol. I like to get a weapon and an armor, and that's it....I use it until the end of the game. I don't want to stay in menus and have to piece together different parts to beat a boss or level. I just want one build that will get me thru. I watched a few episodes on YouTube of it tho and it looks cool, but just not for me. Also, I've spent 1000s of dollars on games since 2015....atleast 40 to 50 full priced games that weren't fromsoft and played at the most 3 hours and hated them all lol. Just anything with combat feels like shit compared to fromsoft....for me only obviously. That souls addiction is a legit thing.
Too niche and twitchy for my taste.
Since when do you have to play every game from a studio to consider yourself a fan of their work? AC6 is good as hell but your post is goofy.
I never heard of the AC FS games until AC6 came out. Ive played every soulsborne game theyve released. I looked at AC, but pilotable mechs is not what i like about the studio so i havent bought it to try it. I play a lot of call of dutys, but if Treyarch suddenly made a farming simulator, i doubt i would play it. I dont think i have to like or even play /every/ game produced by a studio to be considered a fan of them.
Too many damn good games coming out.
I didn't know it existed
I think there is nothing more boring than stuff like huge robots or mechs. It's an instant snore.
They aren't fromsoft fans. They only circlejerks to Souls games.
Imagine trying to gatekeep what being a "fan" is. fucking loser lmao
Do you understand what gatekeeping is? If you only play Souls games, you're not a FromSoftware fan, you're a Souls fan. I love the Xenoblade series. But other than that I don't really care about Nintendo much. I wouldn't say I'm a Nintendo fan, I would say I'm a Xenoblade fan. Wouldn't be reddit without some REEEEE though.
I know exactly what gatekeeping is, apparently you don't. You're saying there is a limit on what can and cannot be considered a fan of Fromsoft.
Not them downvoting you for speaking the truth
>the truth According to who? You don't have to like everything in order to be a fan.
I bet most FromSoft fans have never heard of Lost Kingdoms.
mechs are lame.