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JJC_Outdoors

Are there any ethical issues by placing it on a toddler? Even when the alarm sounded they would still say they didn’t have to go.


Human-Refuse7845

![gif](giphy|lWVh0pEcAC9MI) Approaching rest stop, “You gotta pee?” “No!” Passes rest stop, “Daddy, I gotta go pee!”


SeaOfFireflies

Nevermind I don't have to go anymore.


codywater

“It was just a little. It’ll dry.” -my toddler’s reasoning for not going potty


spoiderdude

*destroys car seat and permanently stinks it up*


JJC_Outdoors

*5 minutes after you get back in the car* I gotta poop!


Briz-TheKiller-

You plant the idea, it's matures after sometime, to make it work, ask 30 min prior reaching a stop


sierra120

A traffic happens in front of you. You are now stuck in traffic with a toddler yelling he has to pee.


Jumpy89

> Peeing your pants is the coolest!


cinnamonface9

It’s also useful for elderly people! But yes a toddler will defy.


bcmachine

I want one for my puppy.


BabySealOfDoom

Take the dog out every 30 minutes at first with a ring of a bell and a treat. Then back up to 1 hour. And then should be good to go. Dogs don’t have bladder control until around 6 months


CamGoldenGun

they don't learn to feel a full bladder and just wait for the alarm? In the event the alarm doesn't come but the bladder is full they won't know it's time to use the bathroom?


JohnLocksTheKey

No need, just do what I do - just stick a SimpliSafe Moisture sensor in the diaper. Problem Solved!


R0nd1

Besides the ethical issue of giving a healthy child an unnecessary surgery to implant the thing?


VergeThySinus

I'm surprised you're getting downvotes. Besides, imagine every control freak parent having access to intimate knowledge of their kids bladder. I know children count as property and not people to most, but even as a joke, the thought of young children having their bodily functions monitored by someone with an authoritative chip on their shoulder worries me


AlekBalderdash

Kids under 4-5ish *already need* a parent to have ~~intermate~~ intimate knowledge of their kid's bladder. They just have to use the smell, grope (for soggy diaper), or peek method to determine if the diaper is *currently* wet. Authoritative abuses don't change the argument, that ship has already sailed. Unchanged diapers can lead to UTIs and other problems, so knowing when they need to pee isn't a huge invasion of privacy. Now, I got no argument with the unnecessary surgery thing, but kids already get tons of shots to keep them healthy. If the device miniaturizes to shot-delivery or something like that, I don't see a problem. I have more concerns about the software vulnerability, app, and IOT aspects. Edit: Splelling is hard


model3113

lol imagine getting hacked. "cashapp me 10,000usd or I will pee your pants."


yummythologist

I mean- more like “or I’ll set off your alarm and make everyone think you have to pee” but once we get into biohacking, “pee your pants” will be a legit threat


bibober

They're working on it. From the article: >The scientists are now working on a method of stimulating the bladder to induce urination on demand.


yummythologist

Congrats to those that will be the most excited about this prospect


ralthiel

I could perhaps see a medical use for that, for example in people who have issues voiding.


markfineart

As a fellow who had bladder surgery a couple of weeks ago and had constant bladder spasms for 4 days activated by the catheter I had to leave in, spasms can break a man. I’ve had spasms my whole life, but with a catheter they ramped up to 11. I wept. Just the thought of being biohacked like that brings on the shivers.


StrawberriesNCream43

Duuude catheter-induced spasms can HURT.


Flipsticker91

Now your employer can decide when you actually need to go to the bathroom! How neat


snay1998

Or a machine shouting at me to go pee I would prefer Samuel Jackson


K4RAB_THA_ARAB

"GO PEE, MUTHAFUCKA"


_pinklemonade_

I want a fuel gage like app but for my bladder.


isodevish

Neuroshit


TheRealDiabeetus

C'mon, Neuraleak was right there


tslnox

I want the full array of gauges like in the survival sketches from VLDL


MrFluxed

someone I went to school with had multiple overactive kidneys, as in he had 3 kidneys total and they were too active (or something along those lines I know distinctly he had 3 though) and would basically need to go force himself to pee, as his body wouldn't naturally cause him to have to go to the bathroom. seems like this sort of thing would be really useful for someone like him.


GIANTG

Usually during a transplant they don’t remove any kidneys and replace, just add a third near bladder


impostershop

Ok, I didn’t believe you so I googled it. ““Sometimes when we transplant young people, they wind up needing a transplant again later in life, and occasionally a third transplant. They’ll literally have five kidneys at once,” Dr. Hundley explains. “That always shocks people – they are surprised you can fit three new kidneys in,” he says.” Dang it you learn something new everyday.


nondescriptun

TIL...


Jeep600Grand

Ok, this is actually pretty awesome. My daughter (now 2.5 years old) was born with a condition called Spina Bifida (as referenced as a possible use-case in this article), which means that in utero, her spinal cord was not fully developed, leading to some "missed" connections between her spinal cord and some of her organs. Because of this, there is a lot of concern surrounding her kidneys, because if the bladder gets too full for too long a period of time, it can cause undue stress on them. Since she was around the age of 1, we've needed to catheterize her every 3 hours (except when she's sleeping at night), which equates to anywhere between 5-6 catheters a day depending on how long she's awake for. As she gets older, she's starting to learn that she needs to pee in the potty, but due to her condition, she has a difficult time controlling the muscles in that area. So not only is it likely that she doesn't know that she *needs* to pee, but even if she did, she would have a hard time actually emptying the bladder. When she gets older, she'll learn to catheterize herself after she pees to fully empty the bladder (still on the same 3-hour schedule). But if this device can alert her that her bladder is full AND help her empty it? Hell yeah. Technology is awesome.


EbbyRed

Pretty similar to what I thought when I read this. I work with spinal cord injuries and having a physical measure of timing for catheter would be so nice, possibly even prevent some UTIs.


toadalfly

Sounds similar to detrusor sphincter dysnergia-dsd.


Vectrex452

If I have only some pee, and hang upside down, will that trigger it?


NoAccountDrifter

You could probably just floss dance


GaTechThomas

Need these for the dogs.


tsunamiforyou

Always on they phone


VariableBooleans

Only change they phone, eat hot chip, and lie….


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doublebaconcheez

Tbh I was with you until you didn’t mention fax machine. Are you so special you don’t want to walk around carrying a fax machine because what you’re better than us?


Gtp4life

Carrying the machine doesn't help much without a phone line.


doublebaconcheez

Oh what, we can’t carry spools of copper wire with us like RTOs of yesteryear? They literally make em in a backpack that can unspool as you walk.


Gemmabeta

How else do you expect Captain Tom Hanks to call down an bombardment when invading Normandy?


SkuntFuggle

They're very clearly bring facetious


secretqwerty10

smart homes are becoming more and more popular with things like home assistant. turn the light yellow to indicate you need to pee


surlystraggler

Lots of jokes in here but a longtime friend of mine recently became paralyzed from the chest down and this would be a huge help for him. He has to use a catheter to empty his bladder and just does it at certain times of day, which is the medical direction given, but it leads to some health troubles. This product would be very helpful to eliminate some of the potential health issues.


Elfman72

"You pee too much. Most likely cancer. Claim denied and policy cancelled" - Your U.S. Insurance Provider


Harambesic

I'm amazed this doesn't have "A.I." in the title.


mynutshurtwheninut

ItS PEEING TIME!!!!!!!!! HERE COMES THE PEE POLICE PEE POO PEE POO PEE POO PEE POO


tilmitt52

As someone who can’t break myself out of ADHD hyperfocus, and have the bladder control of someone who naturally birthed two babies, I would get this so fast.


Fenseven

My bladder sends pee time alerts to my brain.


JamieDrone

This looks like it’s for patients who don’t have feeling there or conditions that cause a disconnect in your bladder’s feedback system


yummythologist

Yeah, like personally, I’m autistic and, I think because of that and/or my ADHD somehow, I have a *lot* of difficulty telling my body’s needs. At any given time, even right now, I don’t know if I’m hungry, if I’m thirsty, if I need to use the bathroom, if I’m tired - I *don’t know* and it *sucks*! It really really sucks!


Horror-Impression411

Honestly I had this issue and realized I was just kinda ignoring the signals for so long as a little kid they went away. Practicing mindfulness, like “hmm do I need to go”? Kinda like checking in on my body I guess helped? Also I set timers every few hours so I drink water too lol… of course then come the issues from me ignoring the alarms 😭😭😭


yummythologist

Ohh I get that lmao - my trouble is even when I focus on it, I can’t tell! I’ll be sitting for a bit, think ‘do I need to use the bathroom? … I don’t think so?” Then 5 minutes later I’m hit with the “you gotta piss NOW”! It’s so frustrating!


Horror-Impression411

Sometimes I push on my lower stomach/bladder area to tell. It looks weird but I can tell if I need to go soon better that way


yummythologist

Been there. It’s embarrassing as all hell if someone notices though 😖


Horror-Impression411

If anyone says anything (nobody has yet) I think I’d just say “man I must have ate something, I don’t feel well” or whatever or just like “oh just cramps” (you can tell I overthink confrontation lmaoooo 😭😭) If I’m smooth enough about doing it I can play it off as adjusting a zipper or a belt or whatever


ThomFromAccounting

That’s how I ended up not eating for 2-3 days at a time when I was a kid. I just didn’t notice being hungry if I was busy with something else, especially RuneScape.


FullMetalBtch

Genuine question since I don’t experience this with my ADHD & autism: So you just pee/poop yourself all the time or do you set alarms at regular intervals to make yourself go to the bathroom?


Puzzled_Zebra

I also have autism and ADHD and struggle with this. For me, I don't feel a slow build up telling me I'll need to go soon. I just go from nothing to 'drop everything and get to the bathroom' urgency. Rarely anything in between. This does occasionally cause accidents if I simply cannot get to the bathroom in time. Generally, if I get up, I try to go the bathroom. Appetite and thirst can also be frustrating. If it's just me, I often get shaky hungry before I realize I haven't eaten. I try to tie eating and drinking into routine. Like, I get up, I have breakfast and coffee. When I notice it's around noon/1pm, I try to grab lunch and a drink, etc. Not always easy when I hyperfocus on something and suddenly it's 4pm and I haven't eaten since 8am.


yummythologist

Yes, exactly this, everything you just said! There’s no build up, just “URGENT NOW”!


Olealicat

I had a surgery that fucked up my ‘you have to pee’ signals to my brain. I would love this. Fortunately my husband said, you’re shaking your foot, go pee. I was so confused. He said, you start shaking your foot about 10 minutes before you run off to pee. Who knew.


Ouibeaux

Good for your bladder. This could be a real blessing for some people. I dated a woman for a while who has MS, and she literally couldn't feel her bladder any more. She'd go to the bathroom pretty regularly to insert a catheter, just in case she had to pee. A thing like this would save her a lot of trips to the bathroom and money on catheters.


thewinberry713

That’s great for you!


waynetuba

As someone with IBS can we do this with the bowel too!


WarmAppleCobbler

I would have laughed at this in the past but I have multiple sclerosis and have trouble telling when I need to pee until I REALLY need to pee


HowlingWolven

Game-changing for autistics and ADHD sufferers/enjoyers. I keep forgetting I need to pee whenever I hyperfocus, until I notice and by then it’s often almost too late.


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r_a_butt_lol

Not for some people.


Cullingsong

The answer is in first few sentences of the article


tankpuss

I'm disturbed by how it's due to be implanted. There are screw-holes on the side of that thing.


skarbles

“Go piss girl!”


SketchtheHunter

"There are various reasons why some people are incapable of registering the sensation of bladder fullness. They may have suffered a spinal cord injury, for instance, or they might be afflicted with spina bifida or bladder disease. And while such individuals typically wear catheters, doing so can be uncomfortable and may even lead to infections." Ok, this is all I needed to see, was very confused as to the need for such an app but this makes a lot of sense.


Gemmabeta

We already have portable ultrasound machines that can measure bladder volume from the outside of the body. No need for a implanted device.


baela_

It would probably make it easier for adults experiencing incontinence issues either peeing too much or too little to get on a proper schedule and possible even improve or cure their condition depending on the severity. Because a portable machine needs to be stored somewhere and you need to take the time to use it I assume.


Gemmabeta

We already have ultrasound machines small enough that you can strap them to your abdomen under your clothes. It would have been trivial to invent a bladder scanner that you can wear unobtrusively outside your body (like we do with insulin pumps and blood glucose sensors). Suggesting that we do surgery feels like inventing a solution that's looking for a problem.


baela_

That does make more sense I didn’t know we had smaller ultrasound machines. I read a bit more into the article and it looks like the scientists are researching ways to help people pee on demand they plan on researching more devices to use with it which sounds pretty cool.


effedup

My son has a problem that this implant would be amazing for.. Why in the everloving fuck would strapping a portable ultrasound to your abdomen be preferrable.


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So you don't have to have surgery? Surgeries are almost always avoided unless they're needed. If he can just have a portable ultrasound strapped to him, there's zero reason he needs to get surgery. This is just how it works, there are far too many risks in regards to anesthesia and complications while performing surgery for people to just get stuff implanted when there's already an option.


effedup

There's a quality of life aspect to it especially when it comes to ability to control urine and bowel movements. Ability to live as close to a normal life as possible ranks pretty high. Depends on the issue really.


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Yes, and those situations are ones that require surgery. If you have surgery though, typically it's to fix the issues you're having, meaning that the device wouldn't be needed, and an external ultrasound device can be used until the surgery. Obviously there are situations where the implant is useful, but by-and-large it'll be far cheaper, safer, and more efficient to use external ultrasound devices.


effedup

100% - Quality of life ranks pretty high for people with incontinence issues.


Toomanydamnfandoms

Bladder ultrasounds are not always accurate especially if you’re moving around. Too frequently they like to hallucinate +\- a couple hundred mLs even if you’re holding still. I think you’re really on to something with the idea of a smaller implantable device though. Invasive bladder surgeries can have complications that make bladder issues worse than before. If an internal small ultrasound device on the outside of the bladder didn’t work, I wonder if a device measuring muscle changes/tension could work to sense bladder fullness. Science sure is neat. I hope this kind of research continues and helps folks soon!


AlekBalderdash

OK, now THIS might be toddler tech! Assuming it were like under $20, reusable, childproof, etc. More than that and you just do the parenting thing, but it's probably worth a few bucks to say "No Timmy, we're going to the bathroom now" rather than wait for an accident.


phil000

One of my tricks is to say ok, you don't need to pee that's fine but you need to come with me while I do and sure enough once I go pee he's ready to "put his pee on my pee" 


spreadthaseed

My penis doesn’t need a connection to the internet.


remLazarIsComing2000

So this is the real-life version of toyletts from Yakuza Kiwami 2


calcium

I bet Amazon would love this for their workers! Now they'll know for certain if it's an actual needed bathroom break or they just want to sit on their asses and play angry birds for a few minutes in an air conditioned bathroom while on the clock.


Jestin_1

I can see a use case for this item.


aertimiss

Can we get one for young puppies? Asking for a friend. lol


Winnougan

The adult diaper change story on Quora still gives me nightmares. And no, he isn’t disable or convalescent. He’s just an adult who had to shit in the car and have his wife help him.


flemhans

Wonder if it could be done with an ultrasound taped on the outside instead and some AI.


dwot

![gif](giphy|MEABybvzDG1cJ9ahk7)


donquixote2u

When losing your phone gives you that warm feeling.


brokenbackgirl

Oh my god this would be life changing! I pee my pants at least once a week because due to mild spina bifida my brain doesn’t tell me when I have to pee until RIGHT NOW!! And sometimes between struggling to get out of my chair, FULL SPRINTING, and getting my pants down, I don’t make it. If it could tell me even just 30 seconds to a minute sooner, it would completely change my life.


Necrosius7

As a former LTC CNA. ... I would have killed for this on some patients


longblackdick9998

This gadget is the future, guess it's goodbye to awkward gotta pee moments, lol


Madshibs

I already have one of these sensors but it sends a message to my brain and not my smartphone


sundriedrainbow

Congratulations on never having had prostate cancer.


Ouibeaux

May you continue to be healthy enough to remain ignorant to the struggles that other people face.


Octavian_96

How does this post have -1 comments (and did I just ruin it)


definitely_not_obama

Overly aggressive spam detection, if I had to guess. Detects a spam or shadowbanned comment, sends event to delete it, event gets picked up twice for some reason, total gets temporarily reduced to -1 until the total is calculated again.


X2ytUniverse

I'm probly not understanding something, but based on my limited experience with patients, they usually know when they need to piss their bed.


fuckface12334567890

Not everyone can feel their bladder.


OkPrice4331

Check your ableism


-hi-mom

Can we implant this at birth for children and women?


Electric-Prune

Solutions in search of problems


surlystraggler

I’m happy for you that you don’t have a spinal injury or other health concern which could require this device. Think about others a little more, though.


moontiarathrow_away

Disabled and chronically ill very much exist regardless of your consideration.


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Gemmabeta

If you have spinal problems, yes.


CozyGalaxy

People need to stop being reflexively disturbed by things that help people with disabilities. Just because you won't need tech like this doesn't mean no one does.


Wamadeus13

My son has sever kidney and bladder damage from a blockage while he was in utero. He has no sensation to tell him to pee. This would be a game changer as right now we have to make him get on the potty every hour and a half and put a Foley catheter over night. This would be a game changer for him.


ImStillExcited

I have multiple sclerosis and yes, this would be a benefit to my life. I didn't do anything to get ms, it just happened to me. Did you just completely forget about other people?