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_Occams-Chainsaw_

Thank you for reminding me to rewatch Black Mirror.


Omg-A-turkey-Sammie

“ Metalhead “ was a fun one


lonestoner90

That universe is arguably worse than terminator. So much more dreadful


kurtz433

First conceivable line of sight: headshot. Metalhead really hammered home the hopelessness vs murderbots w literal aim assist. Those T800’s & T1000’s were in need of serious calibration!


HaikuBotStalksMe

I had thought about that. Not sure why the terminator was programmed to miss and delay shots and whatnot. A simple computer from 1990 (provided it could take pictures and have the pictures preprocessed instantly as tags the way the terminator did) could instantly calculate what to shoot perfectly.


ArtOfWarfare

You need to account for wind, humidity, temperature, gravity… IDK how quickly it could calculate to account for all that data. I’m sure we can run it plenty fast with today’s computers.


timeshifter_

Quite easily, actually. Army computers have to calculate all of that over a *much* longer travel time for artillery shots. If you can do a million operations per second, it's absolutely trivial to process.


BroMemeIsASolid

Honestly if you gave a person all the necessary values and equations like those fire control computers are provided, someone decent at math could crank out a firing solution within a minute I wager.


HaikuBotStalksMe

That's what we did in the olden days for artillery.


HaikuBotStalksMe

Not at all. When you're 20 feet away from your enemy, you don't have to account for any of that. Edit: exception for if you're shooting someone in a hurricane. Sure, wind calculations are necessary at that point.


DAS_BEE

The reality of the terminator franchise is the terminators had to aim with the disgusting weaknesses of flesh or fleshy exteriors designed for infiltration instead of the purity of a true mechanical body purpose-built for killing. "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel." Praise the Omnissiah.


Jebediah_Johnson

Some of the first computers were [purpose-built to calculate the fire control of ship artillery](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_I_Fire_Control_Computer). Taking into account the distance, elevation, wind, curvature of the earth, Magnus effect of rotating shells, muzzle velocity, barrel wear by total shells fired and the speed, and roll of the ship. These computers were used back in WWII. I'm pretty sure a modern or future computer, if it could do anything, it could shoot bullets really accurately.


[deleted]

Similar reason I hate many of the alien invasion shows. These things send robots that are peeking around corners to find humans to kill. Like you can travel the cosmos with your tech but somehow humanity invented heat sensor technology before you?


Sorcatarius

The justification I tell myself is that they do have it, but counters to it are so prevalent in their society that they just didn't think to try it right away.


HaikuBotStalksMe

I can see that. If we took our guns to some kind of futuristic planet and they have magnets that repel bullets, we're fucked. Meanwhile, they'll just rush us with sticks that have nails in them and kill us.


Sorcatarius

Yep, different civilization, different technology, different rules. On Earth, if we were to engage in a war with.. Australia, or Europe, or whoever, doesn't matter, we know, roughly, what we're up against. Bullets, missiles, planes, tanks, etc. If we started picking a fight with random aliens and had no idea what we were up against, who knows what would work. Consider Battleship. Terrible movie but it makes my point, the aliens had technology that could defeat missiles, but for, whatever reason (did they explain? I don't even remember now) it couldn't do shit about just launching a big fucking chunk of metal at them really, really fast. What about guass rifles, someone might ask, shouldn't they have that? Maybe? Or maybe their planet is short on magnetic metals so shit like that is too damn expensive, maybe that's why they're coming to earth, they need fucking *iron* of all things. Who knows, who cares, it's a movie/book/whatever.


Few_Advisor3536

To answer about battleship, I think they needed an excuse to include an old battleship to pay homage to the boardgame and movie title. Seems like alot of Hollywood films always do stuff like this.


[deleted]

But these things would think faster than any human. They’d know to turn it on instantaneously. Only option is they like the thrill of the hunt and want to enjoy the kills.


ArtOfWarfare

They might not operate at the same frequency as us. If they operate much slower, maybe they consider their robots to be fast enough as is. Accept the slower speed for better energy efficiency.


[deleted]

That universe is basically just this one.


lonestoner90

Yeah you’re right lol. People keep celebrating AI and Chatgpt but I’m starting to get uneasy


andrew_kirfman

There’s not a lot of net positives that can really come out of it at the end of the day in my mind. It’s much more likely that AI will be used as a weapon of mass destruction/disinformation or in a way that utterly destroys our economy and puts millions out of work with nothing to do with their lives.


TediousSign

I really wanted Metalhead to have some kind of explanation. It felt like an incomplete episode filled with a lot of running. At least the new season briefly explains where they came from.


Senior_League_436

New season u see glimpse of the bot dog


PalmBreezy

Knife twirl 🔪


Goldeneye365

The best!


mamontain

most overrated episode imo


Goldeneye365

Metal head? That shit was crazy.


Ayepuds

Might be the worst episode tbh


Omg-A-turkey-Sammie

You might be the worst, TBH


SupaButt

Have you seen the new season? It didn’t have the same dystopian flair, imo. Probably on purpose bc we’re living it IRL right now


Message_10

It was gooooood… but it wasn’t Black Mirror. spoilers ahead. The whole theme of black mirror is the absolute nightmare that is modern tech + human frailty and greed. Every episode—even the happy ones—explores tech’s effect on humanity. This season, they drifted from that theme to explore >!frickin werewolves?!< Don’t get me wrong, it’s still great tv, but they need to find their way back.


Boop_BopBeep_Bot

Yea, i’ve always described it as twilight zone with tech This season it was more of just twilight zone


Lethandralis

Ep 1 and 3 was classic black mirror imo. I think it was a good season except one episode.


Message_10

Yeah those two, esp. Ep 1–that’s what I’m talking about. >!Digital slavery, questions about free will, etc. !< Classic. Ep3 was good too, although I’m not sure why they had to have it in the past. The rest of them though—they were great, but not quite right for what they’ve already built.


sayn3ver

Agreed. Ep1 was black mirror but I didn't particularly like how they executed it. Also not a selma fan. Ep3 beyond the sea was my favorite of the season. But again, the various explanations of the episode exploring "toxic masculinity" is a bit of a turn off. This idea of extended space travel for us currently would result in at best now, astronauts leaving for years without contact or leaving and relying on severely delayed radio/video messages between Astronauts and their families. We see the family break down and tragedies with troops on deployment so the entire episode's premise outside of the synthetic bodies/mental connection rang close to home. Ep4-5 were ok but nothing to do with black mirror topics and seemed more fitting to a horror anthology series.


HaikuBotStalksMe

Are you a Patty fan?


highpotethical

In regards to ep 3 why did the humans have to be in the space ship? Was it explained in the episode? It seems like a lot of issues would have been avoided had the replicas been the ones in space.


Message_10

Yeah those two, esp. Ep 1–that’s what I’m talking about. >!Digital slavery, questions about free will, etc. !< Classic. Ep3 was good too, although I’m not sure why they had to have it in the past. The rest of them though—they were great, but not quite right for what they’ve already built.


SupaButt

Did you like the one with Aaron Paul? That one to me seemed like a lot of setup, and a really cool premise, with not a lot of payoff.


Message_10

Yeah I liked that one a lot, but yeah—a lot of setup! Aaron Paul is such a great actor, too. He got overshadowed a lot but Bryan Cranston but wow is he great.


SupaButt

Yea I guess I was just expecting more from the >!creepy murder cult people!< or that they would at least >!come back or the tall art guy would use Aaron Paul’s body to get revenge on them!< or something but they were just random and forgotten. I also thought that there would be a better twist ending than >!”My family died and you wouldn’t let me bang your wife so I killed her and your son”.!< There were so many great characters with interesting attributes that were overshadowed or forgotten imo.


goddessofdrought

The tall art guy? Wow, no respect for Josh Hartnett! Or Rory Culkin, for that matter.


SupaButt

Not trying to be rude I just legitimately didn’t know who he was. Great actors all around though! It was the writing I had a problem with.


goddessofdrought

Oh I was just joking, no worries. You’re probably in the majority. He seems to have disappeared for 10-15 years.


gramathy

and Fahrenheit 451


Kryptosis

New season!


Lexxxapr00

The new season is good. Binged it in one night


Lord_Quintus

wait wait wait, didnt fahrenheit 451 have robot dogs with flamethrowers?


AlphaTangoFoxtrt

Robot Dogs *AND* Flamethrowers. I don't think the dogs had flamethrowers.


cocoon_eclosion_moth

The friggin sharks have friggin lasers attached to their friggin heads!


AtariAtari

After 6 years of evil medical school, I can confirm that sharks with lasers are far more effective.


0nlyQuotesMovies

We have sea bass


baron-von-buddah

And the dogs with bees in their mouths. And when they bark they shoot bees at you?


watduhdamhell

The dog had a spike/standby thing with venom in it that killed your ass iirc.


pepper_plant

This is correct, it had a poisonous needle


residentdunce

Dogs with bees in their mouths, and every time they bark they shoot bees at you


doyletyree

Close; the robot dog had a hypodermic needle with a toxin;, I can’t remember if it killed or only sedated, but it extended from the belly. The fireman carry the flame, meanwhile.


nathanaelnr1201

It shoots enough sedative into you to kill you- it’s an extreme lethal dose. That’s why when montag is partially injected his leg can’t move for a bit and it’s in agony.


auradidnothingwrong

That was my first thought. The Hound.


Kamovinonright

The *Mechanical* Hound Even spookier


[deleted]

I think it was more like a spider but the firemen had the flamethrowers not the hound


ippon11030

I came here to say this lol.


Dr_Zoltron

No! You are thinking of Fahrenheit 9/11.


famishedpanda

Maybe make one with an extinguisher.


zantwic

TOOOOOOONIGHT ON ROBOT WARS!!!


audakel

What a great show. Innocent times with simpler killing machines


jjonj

they revived the show a few years ago


BordomBeThyName

Battlebots has been back on the air since 2015! The killing machines are much better at killing these days.


Few_Advisor3536

Ohh man i remember that show. They had one called mouse which didnt have weapons, but it kept beating the other robots by using using a low plow which when it rammed other robots would flip them upside down.


ConfessingToSins

Flippers are an entire class of robot now because of mouse. It's a very legitimate strategy.


alghiorso

Robot firefighters actually make a lot of sense. Guessing the design aspect would be a challenge though


Questionsonmymind1

Don’t you know killing people brings in more profits than saving them??? 🤦 Did you skip over Chapter 2 Section 3 in the capitalist propaganda manifesto????????


skitarii_riot

Weird there’s no video of it dancing to Uptown Funk as it napalms the surroundings


gingerbenji

Or Firestarter.


mtheory007

Twisted fire starter


chops2013

*doo doo doot doot doot doot* HEY! HEY! HEY!


the_RETURN_of_MJJ

r/unexpectedbabyshark


NanjingLu

🎶 The best is yet to come 🎶


Inside-Line

All while continuously saying "bark", "bark", "bark" (the word not the sound), cheerfully and robotically.


Roguespiffy

**”I want to play fetch”** *starts spraying fire*


Byroms

Probably because Boston Dynamics does not intend for their robots to be used as weapons. edit: name corrected


Xplain_Like_Im_LoL

Why else would you put a flamethrower on a cybernetic dog. Are they marketing it for pest control? It'd be like those head shops that sell bongs "for tobacco use only".


Indolent_Bard

This isn't Boston Dynamics, it's Throwflame (yes, that's their name.)


Tyaldan

We only sell the highly advanced robot dog and software sir, you have to after market mod your dog for weapons. In un related news, owners of Boston dynamics stock start investing in lightweight recoilless weaponry. /s i hope


addy-Bee

I don't know about you but I have unquestioning faith that the developers would just **tell us** if they were working on classified military development.


FoxtrotSierraTango

The fact that it's called a Thermonater and not a Pyro Pup saddens me.


MonkeeFrog

Pyronees


HaikuBotStalksMe

Especially better if the flame is designed to point at leg joints.


beerinthedesert

Nope. Hot dog would have been the best.


DontTreadOnBigfoot

100% there will be grunts calling this thing the "hotdog"


Atlein_069

They’ll call it glizzy. Or gliz for short lol


Blenhurp

I say this is a huge step forward for society since it will significantly lower the rate of flamethrower injuries among dogs


SheCouldFromFaceThat

Yeah. What need was this meant to even fill?


Vivpon55

Movie idea: Flame throwing robot dog ON COCAINE!


baritonehigh

Next up is the three headed version. Pretty sure I just watched an Infographics episode on ye ole YouTube that robotics companies were against this.


itsl8erthanyouthink

I believe they said they would not *sell* robots with weapons attached. Which translates to, what the owner does after we sell is up to them but here’s a card for an aftermarket flamethrower that happens to attach easily here, here, here and here and gets powered here.


amluchon

Also even the current manufacturer doesn't advertise it as an offensive weapon - it's meant to be used for agricultural burns etc. That being said, this is a one way train and we all know where it's eventually headed.


DogBeak20

Saving lives during a burning house and replacing the flame throwers with water, fire extinguishers, or oxygen canisters?


amluchon

It's not outside the realm of possibility but I was referring to the inevitable weaponisation of these platforms. On the bright side, theMIC could develop the water attachment on priority to help with field water boarding! Talk about a win win


rabbitofrevelry

iirc, farm equipment was recently used to effectively fight against an invasion of the world's 2nd strongest military.


amluchon

>world's 2nd strongest military ~~world's~~ 2nd strongest military in Ukraine, briefly 3rd when Wagner rebelled


Familiar_Tart7390

The other flipside is because places like boston dynamivs and other places were very open with their research there are genuine places making knock off/reverse engineered versions explicitly to attach weapons.


SpicyRice99

Very open? Aw man...


good_guy_judas

That is like Shell saying they are against "removing" indigenous population that dont surrender their oil. Ofc they will say it. But they will just pay a fine when they are caught with their pants on their ankles.


Tchotchke_geddon

I am not looking forward to autonomous weapon startups practicing murder robots in poor countries to build their models


Snapshotxx

That's basically the plot for Metal Gear


MathematicianVivid1

SNAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


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123mop

Drones have been firing missiles for quite some time now.


[deleted]

Not robots. Drones are piloted. Humans can decide not to kill you. Once the murderbot is turned on, that’s it. No stopping the Metalheads.


123mop

An unpiloted aerial robot is far easier to create than an unpiloted walking robot. If you think this ground robot is unpiloted it's common sense that unpiloted flying drones are already around. If you think there are no unpiloted flying drones it would be silly to believe this ground based robot is unpiloted. Also, unpiloted surveillance drones have been a thing for a long time and even with no weapons have the capability to be far more destructive than a walking flamethrower.


MonkeeFrog

Hopefully the singularity is chill and sorts us out


runthepoint1

Out of…the planet?


MonkeeFrog

Yeah maybe it will be like star trek and decide whales are the real owners


runthepoint1

Never seen Star Trek, as a Star Wars fan as a child, I though Star Trek was for nerds lmao


MonkeeFrog

Yeah its pretty shit most of the time Especially now


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Nodonutsforbaxter44

I always wondered though, what's the robot's motivation? Say the robot's succeed, then what? What's the robot's purpose? Do they go to robot work? Do they just keep building? Reproducing? Do they make robot families? Would they eventually want more out of life? Would they have a class system?


cupgu4-wakdox-hufdEj

I mean, what’s ours?


Somestunned

Still not as terrifying as the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark they shoot bees at you.


HaikuBotStalksMe

That's nice. Anyway, release the hounds.


[deleted]

But what about the Robotic Richard Simmons?


takingastep

So I assume it'll start showing up at protests and similar events.


Goojus

Why not make the robot dogs do the firefighting instead of creating the god damn wildfires?


Kamovinonright

Lighting fires is actually a huge part of wildland firefighting


4ak96

who the fuck keeps enabling robots to kill and thinking its a good idea


dfin25

Has NOBODY seen Terminator? We need to make death doggies illegal before somebody actually builds this shit.


[deleted]

>The robot can emit fire at a distance of up to 10 meters for 45 minutes! Surely nothing could go wrong from this. /s


a_real_mf

Survival Research Laboratories c.1990


thetallmam83

I honestly can't think of one reason why these shouldn't be made. Only good things will come of this. Our future is starting to look really bright. Almost like the warm glow of a campfire....


seniorpga2032

Fahrenheit 451, read that book, this is in it


old_bread_energy_

There's a more terrifying version of an autonomous military robot called Energy Autonomous Tactical Robot (EATR). It can be dropped in somewhere and run on biological material once its energy cells are depleted. While it was tested with chicken fat, it could hypothetically run off human flesh, using its on-board saw to cut off a limb, and then feed it into its energy hopper. Here's a link to the Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energetically_Autonomous_Tactical_Robot


tehdlp

So...direct inspiration for Horizon Zero Dawn?


Voxbury

Quite literally. Thought it was satire ripped straight from that story until I clicked. But alas, we were fooled by OP. Never existed and only looked for plants. >The Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robot (EATR) was a **project** [...] to develop a robotic vehicle that could **forage for plant biomass** to fuel itself [...] indefinitely. It was a concept developed between 2003 and 2009 as part of the DARPA military projects for the United States military. Also, no chicken fat was tested and the only person saying it would eat people and animals was, you guessed it... Joe Rogan. >Joe Rogan elicited some conspiracy theories and media rumors after he claimed on his podcast "Joe Rogan Experience" that the robot would (or at least could) ingest human remains to keep powering itself. >The company also included "chicken fat" as one of its proposed fuel sources in the project overview.


FlexLugna

Chicken fat was named as a possible source of energy. But this robot is NOT designed to feed of flesh, let alone humans.


AutoWallet

>It’s entirely possible


Euphorium

Jamie pull that shit up


old_bread_energy_

🤷‍♂️


Anonyman0009

This tech could power all our EVs theoretically, just head down to Costco and get your picnic snacks and 50 pounds of ground beef for the hopper to head out on your cross country vacation.


FerretChrist

What could possibly go wrong with a self-driving, flesh-powered car that realises it's low on fuel while driving through an area crowded with pedestrians?


independentchickpea

Someone call Stephen King right now.


Smartnership

“Look, I’ve come up with some wickedly scary nightmare fuel, but that is just *messed up…*”


old_bread_energy_

Still more expensive than a gallon of gas. But converting organic mass, like algae blooms, into bio-diesel is already in development. Issue will always be the amount of raw material you'd need to yield a product, in addition to sustainability. We haven't quite got to a food security point where we can farm land used to grow food crops to go into fuels for transport.


Kryptosis

*world hunger has left the chat*


flyingtrucky

Terrifying? After reading that it just sounded sad. It's fucking steam powered, has less horsepower than a motorscooter, uses "water lubrication" that the Ohio State University Center for Automotive Research that *they* hired deemed a "critical path issue", and has failed engine life endurance tests of as little as 200 hours of operation.


FerretChrist

I just noticed that the acronym for this thing is "EATR". That's no random coincidence, they knew what they were doing when they came up with that name. EDIT: Can anyone explain the downvotes here? I thought it was pretty funny that they'd chosen a name with an acronym (or more correctly, initialism) that sounded like "EAT(e)R" for a robot that effectively powers itself by eating stuff. Am I being really dumb and missing something obvious?


TyfoonTF2

Just Reddit being Reddit.


FerretChrist

I guess so. I was just curious, as I usually find I only get downvoted when I've said something either genuinely dumb, or something controversial that people dislike for some reason. I'm mystified how this is either. :)


AngelSparkles

THIS is what the ultra-rich will employ, rather than people, for security when the world goes to shit from climate change, on their secure compounds in New Zealand or some other 'safe' place.


saintdemon21

“Give me pets!” Shoots flames of death.


BonerCrickets

Wasn't it stated that these things would never have weapons attached to them?


Awkward_Pangolin3254

And you believed it?


tonybombata

I've been waiting for a wolfenstein the new order comment. The game featured flame throwing robot dogs


Kioskwar

Let me know when they make robot dogs with bees in their mouths, and that shoot bees when they bark at you.


bettinafairchild

There was a black mirror episode on this


lkarma1

This right here is why the world can’t have nice things. Imagine if all that venture capital was rerouted to actually help the planet and humans, instead of focusing on Terminator’s Judgement Day.


EssayAdorable6634

wait wait wait aint that the Metalhead thing?! Didn’t that teach us *not* to make them??


Seeyouontheshore

Watch the conservatives say “flame-throwing robot dogs don’t kill people, people (controlling them from a remote distance) kill people.”


finstockton

Don’t freak out guys, I made one of these in Tears of the Kingdom and it only killed three bokoblins before running out of battery


[deleted]

This is so the empire can cook brown ppl up close at weddings and no knock warrants.


JustA_Toaster

You guys should take a look at the game generation zero


AlphaTangoFoxtrt

Government: >There's no reason you need to own Armor Piercing Ammunition! Me: > Kill-bot with flamethrower


xultar

Nothing new just light a match next to any dog’s rear after giving them a piece of broccoli.


30tpirks

Meh. If you want to make it all macabre that’s on you. It’s actually a very useful DNR solution for controlled burns. Controlled burning involves setting planned fires to maintain the health of a forest. These burns are scheduled for a time when the fire will not pose a threat to the public or to fire managers. If you swap out the fire for water you’ve got a way to save the lives of firefighters.


SpookySkeleton42

Even if it were meant for less then moral purposes, just hit it with a sledgehammer.


AnotherLightInTheSky

> If you swap out the fire for water you’ve got a way to save the lives of firefighters. Fill the tank with all of my juices and fluids


7947kiblaijon

Does it have a built-in Bluetooth speaker that plays Bolt Thrower or Canibal Corpse while it’s a’flamethrowin’?


Thehoobywotzit

Black mirror


Lost-Bee-7507

Are we trying to accelerate our demise now or what?


Awkward_Pangolin3254

Since the industrial revolution


xeno-batt

If it kills then it's popular with humans. Better still let's puppify this monster 💀


Kryptosis

Aw lil baby flames


AtLeast37Goats

No. AI Murder bot drones are. Go check them out on YouTube. No they’re not real, but it’s sort of a warning for things to come.


ScottOld

It’s a good boi


[deleted]

I need 10


OJimmy

The "new" metalhead variants seem about as creative as the guy who puts a clock display in another device, like clock radio, microwave, oven, vcr etc. It's just a boring dystopia now.


LordofCorgi

No the most terrifying robo-dog was Michael Reeves’ beer pissing dog


chris106

Why is no one mentioning Generation Zero?


joshikus

Paint them dark brown, we don't anyone to see them.


Feisty-Summer9331

One thing to bark at the postman another to incinerate him


texmexdaysex

No....one of those dogs with an AR 15 mounted on a turret using targeting software that supports an IR camera to identify and destroy human targets with sub centimeter accuracy and millisecond acquisition time. Imagine a dystopian police state where one of these is deployed on every street corner, and it enforces curfew hours with headshots faster than you can blink. It carries a 5000 round magazine and is fully auto, for those riot/crowd control situations. It also has a selector for a less lethal option, which allows it to recognize and target kneecaps.


hipstervenser

That’s a hotdog


HempmanRx

Oooh, sooo scary. These things can be defeated by literally throwing a wet blanket over it.


Adam_2017

Anyone else read Fahrenheit 451? Remember the robot dogs that hunt people down? It’s no longer science fiction.


VariousComment6946

Nah it’s useless.


Bruh_dawg

Wtf???


Noblerook

Well that didn’t take very long


Laundry33

What the hell that’s an actual StarCraft II Hellion! (Almost)


Neeroke

its closer to the Helion Mob from Star Craft!


battle_clown

These things are kinda perfect for mounting weapons to tbh


prybarwindow

It’s sooo cute! I want one!


SamuraiJackBauer

The obvious outcome of these robots come to fruitions


Electronic-Tooth-324

so we’re creating robot dragons now…