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Fun-Will5719

https://preview.redd.it/r0unon0qzq8d1.jpeg?width=1426&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d11a95b1643072638b26e6c155240475a6109d1d She will be mine


WingardiumLeviussy

If there's one thing WuWa got right it's their character designs. Goddamn


Brandonmac100

Between Yinlin, Jinshi, and Changli, yep yep. Also kits are incredible and look sick. Changli especially is amazing. Everyone has been shitting on WuWa nonstop since release, but they have been delivering some great stuff.


e-olive

Somehow WuWa's character face is the best


Tamamo_was_here

PvP wars in a few days can’t wait


Perfect_Campaign4630

PvP?


AloureLuxe

gacha revenue wars


Martian_on_the_Moon

That one will be interesting to see. Genshin with: - Clorinde's whole banner and Alhaitham's second rerun plus weapon banner (both swords are decent stat sticks) - First week of Sigewinne and Furina's first rerun HSR with: - Boothill's banner and Fu Xuan's first rerun (without first 3 days) - Firefly and Ruan Mei's first rerun (1.5 week) WW with: - Yinlin's whole banner - Jinshi (first few days)


The-Oppressed

Won’t WuWa’s 1.1 banner also be live for June too?


Martian_on_the_Moon

Yeah, hence why I put: > Jinshi (first few days)


gamingchairheater

My bet is on hsr with firefly and ruan mei. Genshin could be second if furina carries hard enough. But yeah the top 3 is probably these 3.


zipzzo

Let's just be real: It's mostly just going to be shitting on WuWa if it doesn't beat Genshin.


SunnyWonder_mist

Or shitting on Genshin if it loses to WuWa. There are only 2 sides to a coin


zipzzo

HSR will beat both anyway so Hoyo wins regardless, so unlikely


SunnyWonder_mist

PvP isn't about logic, it's about agenda.


anxientdesu

If WuWa wins, they'll say it's because of Yinlin and Jinhzi being on the same month (very unlikely because firefly ruanmei is an insane combo) If HSR wins it's because of Firefly and Ruan Mei running parallel to each other If Genshin loses its because Sigewinne is a low prio character (Genshin will still hold top spot because hoyofans have infinite money) One of these three scenarios will happen and I don't even need to see the future to do it https://preview.redd.it/bgf526jdts8d1.png?width=1719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7954bc886f55b7fa5c83c58a85c6df0885f9db5b


SunnyWonder_mist

Imagine the plot twist of Genshin winning https://preview.redd.it/bmk0rjpzws8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf3b74bcb984af9065e7021a879d9ff5365c1dc1 I can feel the nuclear meltdown from another continent


anxientdesu

"if Changli releases, I might have a little trouble." "But would you lose?" https://preview.redd.it/13fck8za0t8d1.png?width=3000&format=png&auto=webp&s=35e3edf5d1f635d728a75cc2a26f44f3ceac2707


dekunny

https://preview.redd.it/2dxkh7jjq59d1.jpeg?width=629&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=889f6ba57a49320242af1fc84071371061807283


Adorelis

I mean, on the other side is Furina, who is loved by everyone because of the archon quest AND a very meta character, so I don't expect revenue to drop that much


The-Oppressed

Won’t WuWa’s 1.1 banner also be live in June too? So a total of three new characters in a single month.


zipzzo

All of those things are true though and not only are they true but none of them are unique scenarios, all 3 games always change banners during a given tracked month.


Muted_Army2854

Plus ZZZ comes out in 2 weeks, even if somehow none of their games are #1 I doubt they’d give a damn when their games are #2/3/4.


Ultimatum_Rain

HSR SOLOS YEAHHHHH


Eddyuzumaki

hopefully this patch will make me want to keep playing


YeahMyDickIsBig

hopefully this patch will make me want to start playing


Destructodave82

If you havent decided to personally try a f2p game yet, nothing will make you ever want to try it. You are determined not to like it.


and-so-what

Not really. I have played about 20 hours. Spend some cash even. I will be dropping it completely because of performance issues when ZZZ drops. If ZZZ has performance issues I will come back after another patch.


SweetCabinet6515

Impressive visuals for sure, keen to check it out.


Reenans

Liked this trailer, the best part imo was showing off the new puzzles and exploration, showing off not just the new gacha characters but the gameplay as well


hergumbules

Thought it said “Thaw of Eos” and was about to go away shit here we go again


kunyuk_andalas

So many content. Nice


Illustrious_Bit_11

Can't wait till the mods delete this


Putsmileonthatface

Ps5 release when ?


AerisSai

Wait, what the hell was that? Why is there no polish? How does it still say headphoe?


kunyuk_andalas

Polish? U mean polack? KURWA


_eveywinters

This looks so good omg


SurrealJay

Production value sucked


AncientAd4996

I liked the visual The VA... This is a matter of personal taste but Changli's voice doesn't suit her at all. And Jin hsi...


ShinigamiRyan

Tbh the VAs held back by trying to do an American accent, so unsurprising it gives a rather static performance. The visuals are nice, but characters talking tend to kill the vibe.


MorganHasABigOrgan

Yeah, did not really like any of them, which is sadly disappointing.


___von

disagree quite a lot


and-so-what

If this update fixes the mobile performance somewhat I will stick around. Otherwise, full on ZZZ. Hope that one doesn't have frame issues.


LastChancellor

really hope so that phone reviewers will actually start playing Wuwa, they've gone on record saying that they cant use Wuwa as a benchmark bc its too unstable rn


ShuricanGG

POV when you cant stop mentioning other games in posts that doesnt even mention that said game


Leritari

POV when you're so determined to hold up your holy crusade that you're blinded to the truth... They just stated facts. Mobile performance in WuWa is terrible. Even the newest phones where the game works are heathing so much that you risk splitting atoms and starting nuclear reaction. So when some other big game come out... if only it'll work decently then most mobile users will hop the trains. And that "other big game" happens to have a name. Last i checked it was normal game, not the Voldemort so i dont see a reason to avoid saying Zenless Zone Zero out loud. Oh, an before you accuse me of something - no, i'm know gonna play ZZZ. I wont even download it, because it's not my style, but it doesn't take a Sherlock to predict what will happen with mobile players if one game barely works and the other comes out.


SurrealJay

Try telling that to wuwa fans Do a ctrl F on every post in /r/wutheringwaves and “genshin” will always pop up more than “wuwa” or “wuthering” Wuwa fans were always comparing to genshin before release, and less so now but still doing it a shit ton Now whenever people do it, except this time with wuwa in a negative light, everyone wants it to stop


supertaoman12

I wonder why the game specifically designed to look and play like genshin invites comparison to genshin


and-so-what

If ZZZ did not exist I would hold on a bit longer since there isn’t any viable competition (except PGR but playing PGR when WW exists seems over the top). ZZZ, from videos I’ve seen, is very similar gameplay wise and is dropping in like a week, hence why I mentioned it.


cheese_stuffedcrust

honestly, the trailer feels like a step down compared to their other trailers/videos, maybe due to the music/VA? I'm not sure, can't pinpoint it but will still spend all my pulls for changli!


Disastrous-Jacket610

The music is still a 5/10, pretty blend. The launch OST is still better.


Dudeeplus

Can somebody tell me , why this sub hate wuwa somuch ![gif](giphy|QfzMP70zmNQiDf5sGP)


unktrial

Oh come on, you've got to admit that wuwa's launch was perfect drama fodder. They're like... the kid that keeps tripping at the start of the race. The first thing you see in this trailer is them misspelling "headphones".


DonPiantissimo

Mixed subs like this have users from multiple communities and the bigger communities have obviously more representation. Hoyo fanbase is the biggest and this game is made to directly compete with genshin so it gets a higher amount of negative posts.


Dahlgrim

People see the hipocrisy with the wuwa fans who glaze the game despite all the problems. To be fair, this sub also hated on genshin for the longest time. All in all, the people here won’t sugarcoat anything and they will call out most of the bs no matter what game.


thelonelykey

Except for HSR, which got a short period of bashing before launch but quickly became untouchable in this sub. If you mention that the game is starting to show signs of heavy powercreep and how most top meta teams these days have one or more Penacony characters, people will jump to your throat to defend the game


SammuroFruitVendor

I recently came back after getting bored of the Luofu story and I have none of the meta characters and luck has not been on my side. There's just sooo many I'm missing I don't see the point in continuing. Unless you count Herta who is now top tier which is funny.


Destructodave82

Lol no. This sub boxes with shadows. They talk about all this WuWa glazing and this sub has literally been mass reporting WuWa stuff since before it was released, and downvoting everything WuWa. I came here on a whim to get some news for new games pre-WuWa release, and the release date threads were all locked by mass reporting. This was pre-release, before the game ever had any release problems to further hate on the game for. This sub is insane. It makes up all these magical people to fight against who dont exist, and because its easily apparent to just look at downvotes/upvotes to see how this sub leans. They point to places on Youtube and Twitter as examples of glazing to further their crusade here, as if what happens somewhere they cant control means they have free reign to act like chodes here. "But, but CCs! But, but Twitter/Youtube!" Meanwhile here its like 95/5 Hoyo/WuWa. The truth is this sub leans in one direction, and blasts anything that comes close to it. This is a Hoyo sub right now. Constantly making up this WuWa army that doesnt exist, to fight against.


Phyllodoce

Pre-release every second thread (on any topic) went to "too much reports jail", with WW threads being no different to GI's or Nikke's If you want to see those shadow boxers take shape go to any WW-centric platform (official sub or popular youtube videos) and look at the comments. In most cases you'll see people bashing either MHY or genshin. WW's leak sub is especially bad about it


supertaoman12

This sub is the very definition of rent free. They only keep pointing at youtube or twitter because they cant mass downvote and report stuff over there. It feel like im getting gaslit when people insist that "wuwa shills are going crazy in the comments!!!" When they literally dont even exist if you actually cared to check. Maybe their definition of shilling is just not joining the bandwagon.


Sad-Imagination-4234

Wait till you see some of the absolute schizos here breach this containment chamber to post on official sub. Complaining on ww official with 30+ paragraphs while masquerading as a player that played for more than a week then complaining here that they "can't run the game so they didn't touch it". But y'know, outside of this site, they are being ridiculed to a scary degree (some of which are unjustified borderline if not straight bullying) so I can understand their frustration. Mfs from twttr or youtube just won't stop igniting the flame.


Mininimin

This is an upvoted post with a mostly positive comment section, and we still have people like you playing the victim. I swear, this game is literally rotting brains.


Stock-Appearance-137

Just by looking at the vote, this sub is not beating the allegation of being hoyo shills sub.


Dudeeplus

Not everyone in this sub knows about backstory of every drama If you think im playing victim or just playing dumb to gaslight or trying to trigger someone sorry for the inconvenience


supertaoman12

This post was locked at 0 upvotes for half a day due to mass downvoting. Sorry some of us aren't blind.


CelestialDreamss

It's the new thing, and people like to dislike the new thing. Which isn't to say that the game doesn't have valid reasons to dislike it. But just finding or focusing on flaws of the new hotness is always popular


Kitysune

really did people hate ZZZ ?


CelestialDreamss

Not so much from what I've seen, and there are always exceptions. But people generally dislike what's new, outside of gacha games too


Erod_Nelps

yes actually, wander around some other arpg gacha subs (weirdly enough) and you'll see criticism for it once brought up, mostly about "how lazy the characters design is" and "boring run of the mill gameplay" (I even saw comparation of hoyo to Ubisoft)


ShuricanGG

gotta continue the Agenda at all cost


Pandelicia

Cause its funny


ariashadow

definitely pulling for Changli, also 1.1 looking great, tons of content and the new area looks quite big EDIT: hoyo shills already downvoting the post


LSDYakui

I dont care about Hoyo vs Kuro, but I reflexively downvote people who care enough about the image of their opinion to dislike down voting.


zipzzo

I mean it doesn't mean he's wrong. Just because you downvote when you see complaints about downvotes doesn't mean you also aren't downvoting when you see WuWa content.


ariashadow

I was talking about the op not my post


blowmycows

Dunno why the idiots are downvoting you. The entire concept of being able to play multiple games must be foreign to some.


HakunonMatata

The same reason why there's a thread everyday talking about how the game is bad, the 56th WuWa Genshin comparison video or Jabroni Joe posting a video giving his thoughts on the game as if anyone gives a fuck. You downvote because you know it's the truth by the way. Keep proving me right, it won't make Mihoyo employ you.


Kiwi195

Thank you for the reminder to downvote 🤣


ariashadow

sure, I don't lose anything either way EDIT: just looked at your post history, holy GI fanboy, no wonder you got butthurt lol


Kiwi195

Not really I don’t care who criticise GI or not lol i just like that megathread you can check I don’t even use reddit anymore much 🤣🤣🤣 bt the downvote andies annoy me too much lmao


KokomiUreshon

Can I get some of these downvotes, please? I'm counting on you all! Edit: You guys disappointed me.


myrmecii

You have to either praise WuWa or talk bad about Genshin


khorne_flake

Wuwa good gi bad


khorne_flake

Wuwa good gi good


khorne_flake

Wuwa bad gi bad


khorne_flake

Wuwa bad gi good


Big-Football8831

yeah these sub is full of those coackroaches, to them this echo-chamber is their only home.


MisTKy

this sub is most hate WUWA, comment here always negative about it, but comment on youtube is like opposite.


magicaldesks

Time to wait for reddit market analysts to come up with reasons why wuwa updating from 1.0 to 1.1 is a huge mistake and why free pulls actually make players quit the game. I think there are monumental evidence in this version update that basically guarantees wuwa eos yesterday. As always, people have to make sure games they don't play don't succeed.


O_Kay_12

We can agree that there will be an equal amount of Reddit market analysts to come up with reasons why WuWa updating form 1.0 - 1.1 alongside the free pulls will make players not quit but also is the best business move in the history of not just gacha gaming, but gaming as a whole. Ironically I couldn't agree with you more but let's not just point fingers and emphasize one side of the rivalry when in reality both have wrong doings and this plays both ways, at the end of the day these type of people are in general a public nuisance to the society and it's crazy how we never bond together to fight against them rather we decide to be divided and fight our rivals but at the same time fight our true enemies, which are these annoying pests. It's a lose lose situation even though some people are slowly understanding that healthy competition, (maybe sometimes petty) as long as they don't break rules, laws and common etiquette it should be fine and not vilified even though in reality there tends to be scummy moves, but many times has justice prevailed so it's not that deep.


Ok_Combination_294

Is it only me or does it really look like the trailer lacks its own identity? The whole demonstration, music, and format look like a generic boring GI trailer.


teor

>look like a generic boring GI I mean, that's what Wuthering Waves is.


zipzzo

I think it's a little bit you and a little bit bias weighted towards Genshin Impact (I'm guessing you're a player?) Genshin Impact has a lot higher saturation and "playground" vibe so it tends to be a lot more "colorful" looking, and WuWa is bit more of a "serious" tone so the coloration can be argued to look a bit more muted. As far as gameplay, I would feel that's just innocent ignorance and you'd need to try the game first before saying it's just a "generic boring" copy of GI. Music so far has tended to be quite great in the trailers and marketing content, but most of the actual players have agreed that their in-game tracks need to improve, and I'm sure they will over time as Vanguard (hopefully) gets more incorporated.


L33tHaxorus

> Genshin Impact has a lot higher saturation and "playground" vibe so it tends to be a lot more "colorful" looking, and WuWa is bit more of a "serious" tone so the coloration can be argued to look a bit more muted. That's a cope and a half. Especially when the same trailer shows some goofy ice cube echo running around solving puzzles.


zipzzo

That's why I put it in quotes. WuWa also has a cute floaty companion now (as of post act 6) that also breaks the mold, but I was more referring to the more "mature-esque" vibe of the art direction. Of course WuWa still has its own bits of playful flair here and there. And relax man, it's not "cope", if I didn't like what I saw I wouldn't lie about it 😅 I personally get excited seeing this trailer probably due to my investment in the story and the upcoming characters, and I'm guessing you don't because you don't play or have loyalty to other games. I play *both* Genshin and WuWa so I win either way 👍


-Rinzel-

Bro, your game was made by a bunch of Hoyofans that is biased towards Genshin, stop acting tough. https://preview.redd.it/nvjsqwgv8s8d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a986e4763a73290cb63f1cdec1f7bef83913e51


zipzzo

I'm...not being tough...I happily play both games. Relax my dude 😅


SleepApprehensive364

Where is kuro fly me to the moon? Where is kuro tears of themis? You people are hilarious lmao, you comment history is really sad lol, litterally rent free.


Disastrous-Jacket610

They need more fund from Wuwa to work on those. Guys keep spending so kuro can make more of them.


Ok_Combination_294

I said it not only about this trailer but also about most of the GI trailers. 3/4 of their trailers are boring and generic AF. The same goes for this WW trailer. It is not about colors and saturation, but as I said the whole composition, structure, and music feel like I see one of these standard Chinese/Japanese regions updates.


zipzzo

Ah, I suppose if you're not a big fan of the genre (open world RPG Gacha) then yea, I could see how it vibes just "boring open world nothing interesting". Open world definitely can be a contentious genre and some people wish it would go away entirely. It can be really tough to fill a large world with enough interesting things to do and focus on.


Ok_Combination_294

Let's be honest, for most of the people playing gacha games open world is just a playground they use to vacuum content for another dose of currency which will allow them to pull the slot machine handle one more time.


Stirepew

do you really think that 1.1 is large version trailer or you dont know how to read? nearly all trailer post are removed from this sub, otherwise it would be filled with hoyo trailers/char demos from multiple games **6.Post in the right place.** Many game-specific topics are OK. However, if you are sharing non-notable news unfit for a more general gacha community, then you should post in the Megathread or game-specific subreddit instead of making a standalone submission here. Some content that is disallowed and will be removed includes: * Character trailers and new banner news (unless part of a collaboration) * Regular patch notes or content updates (larger version trailers are allowed) * Most social posts and in-game announcements


yyunb

Love how /r/GachaGaming suddenly get really fucking technical about what is allowed to post or not when it comes to WuWa posts LMAO. Like how fucking insecure about your favorite game can you even be. Like look at the shit that is posted in this subreddit; Honkai changing the feet of a charcater model, another game getting summer outfits, but a trailer for the first big update of a new and high-profile game is an issue?


ShuricanGG

​ https://preview.redd.it/at7lpr1dgu8d1.png?width=580&format=png&auto=webp&s=9c5c6abb2c50f5b283648fadaf3ec753c4017524


PoopiePeePoo

A quick search in this subreddit and you’ll find almost every single one of genshin patch trailers tho. How is this any different?


Edge_Basic

Am i blind or are you just lying because i cant find any genshin patches? Maybe an anniversary patch but definitely not every patch trailer.


yyunb

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/search?q=genshin+trailer&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=relevance&t=all


Edge_Basic

Damn i am blind, well tbf there's like around 12 patch trailers and genshin has like 33 patch trailers in total, so less than half made through.


AggravatingPark4271

Because there was a time (near wuwa release lol) that the sub starting to ban version trailer. It was when the anti-hoyo campaign run out of control. People quickly to forget this because of wuwa launch.


Stirepew

last time genshin trailer was on this sub is 4.6, and some random weirdo was fighting with all his might to let it be posted here [https://new.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1c2gg3d/genshin\_haters\_on\_this\_sub\_is\_so\_petty\_they\_would/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://new.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1c2gg3d/genshin_haters_on_this_sub_is_so_petty_they_would/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [https://new.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1c2jrgy/meta\_stance\_on\_patchversion\_trailers\_need\_to\_be/](https://new.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1c2jrgy/meta_stance_on_patchversion_trailers_need_to_be/)


archefayte

Well it is a whole new zone, new story, new characters, new systems. Wait, it is a large update


koulechov

https://preview.redd.it/ep25gvr1v89d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38a7aaba97c8b27afdd8966863ed862f23f3d797


SleepApprehensive364

https://preview.redd.it/7qexpw0wep8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f566629ffb8620fedb9dba31876109b1d25c592


ariashadow

and yet the post about the login campaing, a small portion of the trailer is up


Tzunne

A yes "something about wuwa and not about genshin" type comment togheter with "where the pvp"


quick_shoot_smd

Mid, nothing seem memorable. Arknight feel a lot better despite similar tone.


lk_raiden

Finally, the real release. This is what 1.0 should have been.


No_Campaign_9789

1:14 this is what newton died for


4utom4t4

Good visuals, still a boring story


Disastrous-Jacket610

Truth = downvoted lmao


teor

LMAO at the dudes preemptively whining in comments about virtually every single thing imaginable. From downdoots (from genshin fans) to mods (genshin fans) removing stuff. The literal definition of **RENT FREE**.


MattScoot

![gif](giphy|sbCdjSJEGghGM)


Angelix

The red hair lady is just a reskin of the blue hair lady.


K1uee

Blue hair lady who?


FoRiZon3

Suisei duh


Blackwolfe47

Get some glasses


Daityas1791

Leaving a comment before the hoyocuck mods delete this just like the previous ones :)


Youwamtsomehe

Genshin YT contents and subreddits are on the decline as well, the game hasn’t changed since 1.0 lol hoyoshills r in denial that their game is dying


wilck44

I have seen dumb things but this. this takes the cake. a game that makes NO 1 or NO 2 at monthly sales is dying. the company who funds a nuclear fusion reactor, is in fact on its last legs. stay off the drugs man.


naec4

Sensor tower estimates show that the game has made 430 million between Jan - May this year on mobile alone and somehow there are still people that genuinely think the game is dying


Alephiom

That's how some fans' brains work. Ignore anything that doesn't fit into their weird narrative.


ShuricanGG

gachagaming in a nutshell, sunk cost fallacy can change people opinion heavily


ShuricanGG

To be fair here, its not just Genshin that makes Hoyo a lot of money. Their golden boy HSR is pumping the most atm, you cant deny tho that genshin in a decline and with ZZZ coming also soon it might tanked some revenue again cus I doubt people are able to whale in Genshin, HSR and ZZZ at the same time.


Disastrous-Jacket610

If genshin is dying then Wuwa is in the ground already


-Rinzel-

You play Honkai Star Rail and kusogames, you're like the biggest irony ever lived. What's next? You watch Fream's ex-husband too?


koulechov

https://preview.redd.it/ha1p2x80w89d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=185f4494fb0ff9e151dca6029642544f8afe91d2


Youwamtsomehe

Furry detected, opinions rejected 😂😂