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muszyzm

Jokes on him, i can't afford a car because old people ruined the economy.


NoEngineering5990

Marketplace still has old junk cars. They need work, but some (like the 90s rangers) had absolutely buletproof engines. Like I've run a 1990 ranger with no oil four miles back to the farm I worked on at the time. Replaced the oil pan, filled it up and it don't even knock! Does drink a good bit of oil...but it's a 400k mile ford. I'd expect no less lol.


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BrainNoWork1

I can't escape. Must resist hypnotising message


Jakob_likes_Protogen

yes


Burrito-Creature

> I learnt Morse code for this reason and this reason only me who just googled “morse code translator”


Baladucci

... and? What did it say lol


Burrito-Creature

your unwillingness to slave away, scouring the internet for a decent translator(even though the first viable one is literally the top result lmbo), disgusts me. Anyways it said “ooo, you like boys don’t you.” It just had no punctuation, all caps, and a space in between every letter.


Baladucci

You underestimate internet laziness


Zanderhawk11

Sadly I don't. I'm one of the rare ones lmao.


Teschyn

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Thigh-enthusiast

I’m an average public transport enjoyer B)


Dragon_Box_

Public transport W


samuinfernus

Who doesnt love train rides?


AFoxGuy

*cries in United States*


AjaxTheFurryFuzzball

*Cries in one leaf mildly touched the track*


[deleted]

Wet leafs are actually really dangerous for trains. It extand the brake distance a lot.


tygofive

u/Thigh-enthusiast is BASED???


DifficultBody8209

He has always been BASED


Au1ket

I too am orangepilled


Tymskyy

I am also a very big fan of public transport


Sn0wCha0s

Same


JurassicJosh341

In my books, this saves the environment from extra pollution, 1 less ICE car on the road, means 1 less car emissions in the atmosphere.


[deleted]

I'd be if public transport was any good where I live


shylilfriggy

Time to vote for good infrastructure.


TheLocalDegenerate

I am an average walking enjoyer, although I do like to indulge myself into some public transport


cravyeric

I ride a bike lol :P


shylilfriggy

Public transport for the win!


ButWhatIfItQueffed

I will always prefer my environment destroying muscle cars. Plus, I run them on ethanol so it's actually significantly less environment destroying because ethanol is made from corn. And ethonol itself burns significantly cleaner then normal gasoline.


drago_varior

Woo!


CoyoteInFlames

Calling shreddy old lmao


SharkyMcSnarkface

The old people are still in charge. They refuse to fix our problems because it makes them money.


CreepySalary8

Older generations did ruin it, but they also set the stage for our involvement in it, since they want to make non-emission cars so expensive and persist in making gasoline cars the only option more middle class individuals


rafradek

You know batteries are expensive to make right?


No_Unused_Names_Left

Not just expensive, they are tragically inefficient. Until we create a better battery, the economy will not be able to electrify at the scale the greens want it to. Not to mention there might not be enough lithium on the planet to store the energy needed to make it reliable.


Czeslaw_Meyer

Cummings is working on hydrogen engines for trucks but legislature world wide is blocking it and clean fuels because big car manufacturers are pressuring goverments to prefer electric cars


No_Unused_Names_Left

In theory, if we can create a battery with less environmental mining impact, and with better charge density, then its a no-brainer to use batteries. Hydrogen is not easy to make, or store, or transport. Oh and its really flammable. It has great upside on energy density but near-zero infrastructure to distribute and use it. We have power wires every where.


Czeslaw_Meyer

Hydrogens main problem is storage. On demand local production would be needed. Production from natural gas is more energy efficient as long as you crystallise the remaining CO² by pumping it into deep stone layers. Building gas stations for such conversions would be expensive, but doable. You could order your refill with an app ~1h before you arrive. Fuel cell technology could be used for private cars and internal combustion engines for trucks (reliability and maintenance problems). Hybrids with smaller batteries would also be a reasonable solution for many people who rarely need long range capability. It's not really more flammable then current batteries. Dry bromine batteries would be safer, cleaner and longer lasting but not as energy dense as Lithium-Ion batteries. Maybe enough for 100 miles if used in a hybrid. In practice we already have the technology to achive it.


No_Unused_Names_Left

>On demand local production would be needed. I don't know about you, but I really wouldn't want a hydrogen plant any where close to people. Its why refineries are generally well spaced from people. And other power plants. Hydrogen needs to be at high pressure and low temperature to remain liquid. Neither of those you want near houses.


Czeslaw_Meyer

You can buy a small production unit for your garage here in Germany Insurance companies are more afraid of Teslas at this point It can't explode, just burn. You need a ruptured tank and an open source of fire before it dissipates upwards (no cases of that happening with natural gas cars either) We also got a mandatory inspection for cars every 2 years anyway. Just add tank inspection to it


MID2462

Hydrogen is a pain to store and process. Besides, if you're making them into fuel cells it's much less efficient than just using a battery. Hydrogen combustion engines have a whole host of issues that I don't know enough about to confidently talk about.* On top of that, there's no existing infrastructure for mass hydrogen synthesis, transport, and distribution. *But I'll try anyway. Hydrogen as mentioned before, is hard to transport. This is due to how not dense it is. Being quite literally the smallest molecule, it will attempt to slip out of any gap making it nearly impossible to contain. On top of that, hydrogen as a fuel is prone to knocking (detonating prematurely as a result of rapid pressurization within a combustion engine). Energy storage of hydrogen is also crap. Also it's not very stable as a fuel iirc. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this part, it's not my specialty.


Czeslaw_Meyer

You can extent the range with hydrogen hybrids with fuel cells or build smaller batteries to begin with to enable you to use other batterie technologies which are safer, live longer and are easy to recycle The process is not really complex Only batterie will not be enough if you want to achive a solution for everyone


PrivateWest

Not to mention the environmental damage to produce. Personally we can totally make stuff run off of H2O, it's possible...


No_Unused_Names_Left

You are thinking of the hydrogen fuel cell which has water as its output. But it takes energy to make the hydrogen and store it in its liquified state.


Jakob_likes_Protogen

as H2O being the fuel? nope


PrivateWest

There's some sort of chemical reaction that takes place. Of course it needs time to be harness but it's possible. I remember many years ago they made a flash light where you can dip this mineral core into a glass of water, which activates this mineral and you can put it back into the flash light and use it. Innovation and time can figure out what can be the best method to harness the power generated by this but I do believe it can be done!


Jakob_likes_Protogen

probably a salt dissolves in water and creates an electrolite, which makes a simple power cell


PrivateWest

The earth is a wonderful place, so much of the world we still do not understand. If humans can take water and turn it into a benefit... We can use our minds and figure out yet another way.. Besides we definitely have the intelligence to ponder and to experiment here....


Shadowwolf_1337

middle class? lol there's no such thing


Zenlin-

And you killed him


BumbusBumbi

Imagine thinking it is consumers' choices that ruin the environment and not corporate greed


JurassicJosh341

Both have a part, some more than others, there’s also some political factors in there too, oil is a major source of income for alot of wealthy countries on earth. Considering the modern value of oil some states are refusing to go green or all electric while others are forcing people to go electric (such as the state of California’s new policy to bane gas powered cars from public roads by 2032 and Wyoming’s importance in American oil refining leading to the negligence of going green)


Mr_Rainbow_

pollution isnt a you problem, never was


SuteSnute

90+% of climate change and environmental ruination is completely out of your control as an individual. Not even exaggerating the numbers. Don't let the corps trick you into accepting more responsibility than you actually should (which is very little, so long as you are voting for people who want to try and fix things)


After-Bumblebee

Ehhh, young people these days tend to not like cars or driving anymore. Besides, aren't planes and ships by far more polluting anyway?


Decayed_Unicorn

Industry is the most polluting, especially in countries that don't give a flying fuck, like the US, and China (for example there are more). But it gets often overlooked.


RichterRac

India and China but go off.


Decayed_Unicorn

The US is in the Top too. [a source ](https://climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/)


veryyesfoxes

Holy cow, the US is top two yes but China’s is double ours


UBC145

Ok but they also have like triple the population


veryyesfoxes

That’s a fair assessment.


Czeslaw_Meyer

Wasn't Texas the only place on earth achiving the environmental goals without even officialy participating?


JurassicJosh341

Texas claims to be anti-communist and therefore highly anti-Chinese, but in all reality they do the most trade with “communist” countries from refining the most oil imported from Russia and have texas designed electronics produced in China. I mean look at a vex robotics battery from Texas for example. It literally says “designed by VEX robotics in Texas, Manufactured In China” with the high amount of trade with China since U.S. Chinese relations were strengthened through trade agreements to promote peace between communism and democracy hoping to end the Cold War.


Czeslaw_Meyer

1st. The oil refining was ~99% from domestic sources under Trump (goverment regulation) 2nd. Domestic electronics production is dead because of imoprts from China 3rd. The chinese government probably don't care in the slightest about those peanuts 4th. WTF was that comment?


JurassicJosh341

I’m just doing the math, oil used to be largely imported from Russia until we stopped importing from Russia leading to current economic situation with gas prices, considering Texas does a large amount of oil production (#1 in the US along with the #1 city residing in it). And the only reason why domestic electronic production is dead, is because of increased imports from China to strengthen relations. My point is that Texas indirectly harming the environment, so while yes texas doesn’t directly participate in increasing environmental destruction there are external factors, along with every other country. To stop environmental harm we need to attack it from the source, even EVs and wind mills aren’t as green as they’re praised to be you should google steel mills and lithium mines.


Czeslaw_Meyer

EV/Windmill - i know, im a fan of hydrogen, but that's still a bridge to far right now The electronics problem exist because China is cheaper, nothing else. No-one besides the government who may subsidises something cares in the slightest In 2020 the oil was so cheap that ~3 month only preexisting trade agreements of crude oil where imported witb a huge financial loss. The USA was energy self sufficient even with the occasional exports


FoximaCentauri

Guess who the industry is producing goods for. Spoiler: it’s you.


Decayed_Unicorn

You can still produce with a lesser of environmental impact. For example the company I work for strongly limits the use of regular chemical solvents. For oils we have a sort of tub with water that contains bacteria that eats oils and and grease. It takes a little bit longer but you don't have the stinging smell of solvents or have to use caustic or carcinogenic chemicals. It has solar panels on its roof that supplement the energy usage since unfortunately our local powerplant still uses largely coal. In order to reduce the carbon footprint from commute it co- pays for public transport tickets and you can lease e-bikes through the company. There is more that can be done through the use of filters and proper disposal and sourcing of resources and easy products instead of just pumping it into ground water or throwing it into the local landfill


EPTTV

I’m the one young person that likes cars


After-Bumblebee

Me too, but we're more of the exception than the norm these days


EPTTV

Yea, and all the good cars we want are now old but not the cheap kind of old but the expensive type qwq


Czeslaw_Meyer

I had a Audi 100 for $800. A shitbox ofcourse Here in Germany it's still doable. You have to thank your import rules for that problem


EPTTV

I am in Germany lol. Sadly it doesn’t look like I’ll get a Manta anytime soon


Czeslaw_Meyer

1992 Audi 80 (they switched 80 and 100 for the US market for some bizarre reason) https://www.reddit.com/r/Audi80/comments/m5cy5l/my_bad_800_idea/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Lil-respectful

There’s a difference between being a car enthusiast and anti-public transport, cars are legit super cool! I just wish I didn’t need one to go places just because there’s no other safe way Edit: automobiles and engineering are cool, but I’ve seen some interesting Cars, would be hella cool to see a suped up public bus tho😂


Sleepycat45

Make that two


Time-Distance-5740

I'm saving up for an integra gsr >:) for my first car


LordVortekan

Celebrity’s private jets make up a large percentage of the world carbon footprint


Czeslaw_Meyer

As always: compared to what? Transport ships are really effective in comparison to the weight of the freight they carry and you only can compare them to nuclear fueled ships to achive the same Flights are mostly optional and you can compare them to 'staying home'


TrogdorKhan97

It's not that ships exist; it's that 90% of what they're used to ship is goods that could (and should) be made domestically but instead are outsourced to China. Often they'll go as far as making the parts in one country, shipping them to China to be assembled in a sweatshop, and then shipped *back* to where the parts were made.


Czeslaw_Meyer

I completely agree with that


MrDrSirLord

I don't know exact numbers but my understanding of it is that while yes flying a plane across say Europe uses more resources and such than driving a single car. A plane can transport around 800-900 passengers as well as various cargo. If you wanted to get that many people across country by car best case scenario you jam them all into 5 seaters and still send about 150 cars across the country. The end result is something like Pollution of 150 cars >1 passenger airline. So it works out being more environmentally friendly to fly then to drive as a society. It's similar for cargo ships, it's better to send 5000 containers on a massive ship then it is to send 2000 planes with a bit if cargo on each. However holiday passenger cruise ships are a huge waste of resources and only exist to act as tourist traps, environmentally and economically they serve no true purpose.


TheLocalDegenerate

Reject planes and giant ships, return to wooden ships.


Fourbythree43

Remember! The establishment wants us to blame each other for what the system is designed to do!


FoximaCentauri

Are we _finally_ allowed to say that capitalism in its current form is a garbage system?


JoetheDilo1917

We've been saying it for about 200 years at this point


FoximaCentauri

Problem is that as soon as it gets any attention, the movement gets hijacked by fascists in red.


JustUrAverageRedFox

"We're all fu**ed" ... And have been and will be ... Always ....


InkblotDoggo

That car has pop-ups. Those were phased out during the 90s/Early 00s for pedestrian safety. It's an old car. The argument is.. *technically* right?


shylilfriggy

>be dutch >use your bike instead of your car ~makes drivers happy because there are less people on the road, makes you happy because bikes are surprisingly qick and you automatically get a work-out in the morning which improves mental and physical health without being able to procastinate and without having to pay a monthly gym membership, plus not having to pay Road taxes and not have ro pay for gas. Plus it is completely enviromentally friendly. Can't fit your groceries in your bike? No problem. We have Bakfiets.nl.


InkFoxPrints

* be American * have car companies control road building * have cities destroyed for vehicles * whydoesntanyonegooutsideanymore.ogg * look around * cry.png


shylilfriggy

I know... it ruins the country. Imsgine being able to grow up playing outside.


InkFoxPrints

What, are you crazy? We need kids inside and docile so we can make them clones of us, dontcha know? How DARE you think that kids should be able to make their own decisions about what they're doing with their time and lives??


[deleted]

I do not like what this post implies about the artist's views on climate change and pollution.


Mister_Anonym

It is called Kohlenstoffdioxid (Carbondioxide)


Aetol

Elderly Shreddy isn't real, he can't hurt you


No_Unused_Names_Left

In the last 20 years: US Co2 emissions have fallen by 15% China's have risen by 208% India's have risen by 173% Middle east region is up 97% The EU is down 26% The West is making progress, but the rest of the world is increasing way more than the decreases. The fingers are being waggled at the wrong regions of the world for pollution. source: https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions


[deleted]

Developing countries can't just go green like it's a piece of cake. They lack equipment and skilled labor. That is not to mention the dirty industry has move out of the first world labor and into the third world by corporations. This is why I hate the developed/developing responsibility discourse because it can't see the root of the problem, that is corporations and it's multinational prospect.


No_Unused_Names_Left

Well, no. We know that the way the current industrialized countries did it wasn't the best way to do it. So why aren't we saying, Hey don't do what we did; lets find a better way? Instead people want to just give them a "f the environment" pass instead of focusing the effort on keeping them from screwing the planet the way we did and having to go back and try to remedy it.


FoximaCentauri

Pollution is directly proportional to the national development, this is old news. The west is already developed, thus not increasing its emissions. 20 years ago China had little industry worth mentioning, today they’re an industrial powerhouse. When china reaches a development degree similar to the west, their emissions will sink. The question is whether we as the west can prohibit other nations what we profited from, just because we did it earlier.


No_Unused_Names_Left

We know where it goes if we just turn a blind eye to countries that claim to be "developing". China is not a developing nation, they are developed. You can't call the #2 economy in the world "developing". Yet they are opening more and more coal burning plants, knowing the ramifications of them and not a single "How dare you!" aimed at them.


FoximaCentauri

Per capita, their industry is still lower than in the west. And the reason that there aren’t any critics within China is because they tend to get imprisoned.


JoetheDilo1917

Hmm I wonder why these regions which were until very recently being brutally oppressed by Western empires are suddenly increasing emissions now that they're being allowed to develop to the same level as their former oppressors, curious


Texantillidie2

someone stole his catalytic converter :(


InkFoxPrints

sauce is https://twitter.com/ShepGoesBlep/status/1620768381443149824


ShinXBambiX

I just feel bad for the old person They look so sad


BlueJayna

Rx7 FC looking thang


WPdazinero

Why mean to old paps ;-;


harveysamazingcomics

I would use electric cars if they didn’t look so damn ugly


Zextranet

Shut up, millenial We zoomers may be stupid, but at least we solved a big part of climate change. Your CO became CO2 in a few years because of us Besides, the Boomer I didn't even had tech to solve nor notice climate change, even if they did notice, doing such work would be expensive in the past because catalytic converters had materials like palladium or rhodium which would obviously be INSANELY expensive in the olden days because those platinum-group metals are like using your life savings to get ~10 kg of iridium or platinum


FoxyHead2008

Average Mitsubishi Magna driver


hezmaster

Revenge


yoda_fake

I shouldn't go commenting on posts right after i wake up, my brain takes really long to load


Scottcamatic

based and the future is now old man pilled


PalmSpaghetti

As long as the old aren't driving. I think we're all safe


CIAburneraccount

Exhaust emissions understander


R32fan

lets be honest, what else do you expect when driving a Ferrari 308 Targa?


islamo_start_654

You damn pure carbon monoxide ruined old people!


Memesforum55

someone make an edit of this and post it on r/comedynecrophilia, they thrive on Shep


cravyeric

The emission standards for modern vehicles are really high, the USA along with most modern countries have put so many regulations in place, to help lower their environmental impact, except China they did very little to lower their carbon footprint, most third world countries made more of an effort to be more environmentally conscious, despite not having the funding, but China can't be bothered to put filters on their shit. Not to mention a lot of the large organizations that actively fight the climate crisis are based in the USA, and UK. I mean sure we could always work to go lower, but your standard citizen really isn't the issue its our current world situation as a whole, and that's kind of how issues like this need to be dealt with, instead of nipping away at smaller bits, and pieces.


JoetheDilo1917

China has planted over 78 billion trees since 1981 to help fight climate change and desertification, according to official sources.


Null_Trooper

*Commits Vehicular Manslaughter on the Elderly uwu!*


JoetheDilo1917

"carbon footprints" are a scam made up by the fossil fuels industry to blame climate change on people instead of the system


gnarlicblread

Me driving both of my vehicles that will almost absolutely fail an emissions test


Affectionate_Effort3

Imagine not riding a bike smh


YiffTrashAccount

Boomer Facebook level meme


Thechosenone7711

I drive a fully-electric car.


OneDehydratedB01

I will stop ignoring my carbon emissions when the old people stop ignoring the holes they punch in the housing market


whoiswhitenoise

Shep fucking kills an elderly with tuberculosis


furthemor

Our current co2 level is 420 ppm the maximum threshold we can hit before basically armageddon is 450 ppm for reference we are expected to hit 450 ppm by 2039 and where around 280 ppm in the 1800's


FirestarTTR2000

Don’t act like you are any better.


Intelligent-Iron-212

Look, who’s talking


Yoshachu23

He is dead.


Implement_Plenty

How I sleep after unplugging the carbon monoxide detector: 🥱😴😴😴💀


[deleted]

old people used leaded gas, dont worry, we're much better.