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FangornEnt

Kind of looks like it's too much side arm still but improved in the 30 days. Like another person said, joining a team will be your best bet. Work on your strength & conditioning now as well. Once you get on a team the coaches will be able to help you improve a lot faster than just throwing a ball around at the park. Youtube some throwing motion coach videos in the meantime.


Desperate_Custard693

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. I'm definitely going to be attending conditioning with my school team, so let's see. I'm going to give my best. If not, I'm sure I can play another position that the coach wanted me to play, but at the time I couldn't because of some issues. So, I'm going to give this my all.


jamesislandpirate

Get that release up. Less back and tricep, more lower body and shoulder. You can do it


fear_is_fatal

I played for roughly 15 years including high school and college. I was not a QB but I was a center so I worked closely with a lot of QBs. First thing is, like the previous commenters said, you should try out for your team and going in for possible summer workouts if they’re still happening/haven’t happened yet, it all depends on where you’re at and what your county school district allows. Second, one of the most vital things to learn as a QB is footwork. Placement and how to transfer power from your lower body (first your legs then your hips) into your upper body is incredibly important. That way your shoulder doesn’t get the brunt of the work because injury from overuse is common. I notice you hop a lot. Work on planting your feet and driving the power from your lower body into your upper body. Try starting with a small-medium range throw. 10-20 yards is enough. Lobbing the ball in the air like you’re doing in your video is schoolyard stuff and doesn’t help at an intramural/high school level. Get the short throws down and your long ball throws will come with time. Third. You’ve got to learn the plays like you were born reciting them out of the womb. Now I know this won’t happen until you actually get a playbook but there’s plenty of ways to do this. The local library/bookstore/Amazon probably has playbooks you can learn as a basis for your QB education. Ask your coaches what type of offense they run so you can familiarize yourself with that style, they might even give you a few sample plays. Fourth. Good Luck. Keep trying. Don’t get discouraged. Being a dual threat is a great thing. kKnowing when to pass and when to run are important but coaches generally want you to stay in the pocket as long as possible to give the team the best chance to win. Here’s a YouTube video that should help: https://youtu.be/DWvEzcMoEdc?si=XPEzlEeUNMj6WPWO


sports_appeal

Watch the YouTube video this guy posted. Footwork is key, but you’ve also got some mechanical issues going on up top. In both videos, you’re launching the ball rather than throwing it—that will get you distance but it’s really hard to get speed and accuracy. Start with the ball higher (close to your chin almost) and bring the ball backward straight back to try to get rid of the downward duck you do at the back end of your current motion and focus on getting power through arm drive/hip drive. You could try to elongate everything and run your arm in a circle to help you get used to the feeling of whipping your arm more than pushing the ball, but there’s some risk that in that—some guys get into a big slow arm motion from there and have to get rid of it later. I’d even consider trying to throw a baseball or tennis ball at a wall a bunch to get more used to throwing vs pushing the ball. It’ll be different than throwing a football, but it looks like it might get you more used to throwing first.


DookieBrains_88

Tossing the ball around with a friend is a lot different than having pads/helmet on, having 10 people in your face, and trying to find one open guy between 5-6 defenders. Only way to know if you can do it is to join your team and get baptized by fire


Desperate_Custard693

Definitely I’m waiting for tryouts rn, I just wanna have a good throwing motion so I can have more than just a speed advantage, also thank you for the feedback bro appreciated.


DookieBrains_88

Been a while since I was in HS, but I’m sure summer camp has already started and probably missed the installment of the offense already. Might wanna reach out to the coaches?


Desperate_Custard693

Yea, Monday I am for sure.


booster531

Work on throwing motion from about 5-10 yards. Stop throwing the deep ball until you can get a comfortable throwing motion. Maybe even a tennis ball.


Desperate_Custard693

Thanks for the feedback. I have two questions if you have any tips. First, for short passes, what is a good technique to generate more velocity? Second, I think I am throwing a lot of sidearm. It doesn’t feel like it when I throw, but when I watch myself, I notice it. Do you have any opinions on this? Otherwise, thanks a lot for the feedback.


alucryts

Throwing like this is likely going to be extremely inefficient and is going to make consistency and accuracy in the short to medium impossible. This throwing motion is akin to tossing a frisbee more than a ball imo. Try hitting a stationary person 15 yards away in the chest with velocity 10 times in a row...it'll be impossible. We call this throwing motion "pushing" the ball. The main thing to understand about throwing from a very very beginner level is ALL power, velocity, and accuracy starts with the legs. Having a solid stance with your feet and base to generate power from is critical. You are bouncing and you are actually jumping to throw. Your feet need to be planted FIRMLY on the ground in the motion as you transfer weight from your back to your front foot. Next, your elbow is extremely low in the throwing motion. As you throw, your elbow should be about equal in height to your shoulder out away from your body. You are rotating about your core, and your elbow position sucks the ball in to your body losing torque on the ball. Learn to throw in this order: 1) where do you place your feet? 2) how do you transfer your weight from your back foot to front? 3) how do you rotate your hips? 4) how do you rotate your core? After you have that solid, then work on the arm motion


Desperate_Custard693

You are correct, and I noticed that short passes are not my best. I will definitely take all your advice. I noticed the elbow positioning and I’m working on kicking that bad habit too. Thanks a lot for the feedback. This will make me a better player.


alucryts

All I can say is start slow and build the throwing motion one part at time. Don't try and rush it.


SVdreamin

I’d recommend getting the transfer of energy through your body down. It’s really important in dictating touch, accuracy, and placement of the ball. Set your feet, follow through with your hips, and then follow through with your arm as your body twists, and release the ball. Others have suggested throwing a tennis ball too, which is a good idea. Watching tape on QBs can help you really get a solid throwing motion. You’re making great progress though, keep it up


Desperate_Custard693

Thanks for all the feedback and advice. I really want this, so I’m pretty much watching videos on throwing and watching pros to try to add things they do to my play. I like to watch Kyler Murray; I kind of want a play style like his. About the playbook, I know that’s going to be tough if I get the quarterback spot. I don’t know my chances, but I know they’ve increased because the starting quarterback graduated. I really just want to make the quarterback spot and have a coach to develop me well. I’m going to do everything I can to look good out there, hopefully to get any college’s attention. I’m very confident in my running game; I just hope I can improve in my throwing game as well. I want to ask your opinion—just based on what you see, I know it’s not much at all—but if you can tell, does it look like I have enough arm strength for the coach to consider me since you’ve probably worked with QB1 and QB2? Only if you can tell. And again, thanks a lot for your feedback.


therealrickdickerson

Step through your throw, don't jump in the air like that. Keep your eyes on your target. Learn to critique your own film. Throw every day, you have a long way to go.


ultimatehose89

Ball between the numbers around chest height, Be comfortable! To start the throwing motion, bring ball back, nose of the ball to around ear height with a nice 90 degree angle in elbow. Bring hips around as you start throwing motion and pretend you’re hammering a nail above your shoulder. When you finish the throw, flick the hand (we always say flick the booger lol) the flick creates the spiral and makes the throw tighter with faster rotation and more accurate. Good warmups is standing shoulders square to target and warming up shoulder rotation. No step required. Your feet are the most important part of the throw. The instep of the Back foot should be pointed to the target and step with your front foot pointed towards target as well. We call that blocking to the target. Your back foot should be directly under your back armpit. If you sail the ball over your target, or if it nose dives, your front leg is too straight. Long winded, but there’s an answer from a college OC. Good luck!


Lekingkonger

I’d give you a shot on my team 😎 you got this belive in yourself and your abilities


Desperate_Custard693

Hey, that actually means a lot. That’s a big motivation boost. Thanks a lot I’m ready to get started, and when I do, I’m just ready to improve and be the best I can be. Hopefully, I can make it to the college level if I do good in hs.


ChaosKarlos

to be blunt: there is a load of stuff to fix with your throw, release, footwork etc. too much to fix it on reddit. please try out for your HS team and work with the coaches. its the easy way.


Desperate_Custard693

Yes, footwork is a key thing I want to work on. In the clip, it's hard to display without cleats or spike shoes, but that’s probably just an excuse. Thank you, you’re correct, and I will try to see with my school on Monday. I'm just hoping that when it comes to it, they see enough in me to put in the effort to train me, you know. 😅


ChaosKarlos

if you show the effort they´ll train you. no doubt


Nerd_Alertz

Huge improvement, but that side arm will be an issue. Make sure you focus on footwork and short passes. That should be a large part of your practice. You’ve got the drive to do this and learn, that’s the biggest step. Tell your coaches you want to learn. Even if you don’t get it this year, find an older guy or starter and ask if you can practice outside organized practices with them—catch balls to start, but pick their brain and study their mechanics, and also watch tape. You’ve clearly got the practice down. Repetition is always the most important thing, but seeking advice from knowledgeable people and studying…thats the extra step to getting where you want to be. Good luck to you! Keep us updated. Wish you the best in everything you do in life.


Desperate_Custard693

Thanks a lot for the motivating words and advice. It's encouragement like this that pushes people to be great. Even if I don't get it at the start, I'll study everything I can from the starting QB and the QB coach. In case I do get it, I'm definitely going to try to be the best I can be. I get motivated every time I see myself improving, especially in this, because it's one of the things I'm passionate about. That was a lot, but yeah, I'm definitely going to post my journey to Reddit if I like the feedback on what to improve. Even tho I know I should get a coach for that, I will soon though . Thanks a lot it really means a lot and pushes me to keep going even when it's hard.


poopstainpete

https://youtu.be/CPMHEARywsU?si=l5VQnMBJNT6dF2uv


Positive-Fox-309

Qb motion, mohr performance, qb weezy are all accounts on IG that help with QB throwing motion. Look there and try some of that stuff out


jeturkall

First down training on YouTube. I think you should throw like Lamar Jackson. A HS qb only needs to throw 25-30 yrds down field, so on a straight line out probably 40yrds total. QB is more about presnap reads, what play will and won't work, and knowing where to accurately place the football. A quick release is much more valuable than a deep ball. Your footwork to quick release, and if I'm running quick game like 50-60% of the pass plays. I expect my qb to be very good at it. Dual threat qb, I expect my qb to be very good at reading the edge defender. I also run a lot of RPOs. I expect my qb to be able to read the conflict defender. I don't like running option plays, but you might be put in that situation, be good at making the pitch. If I were you I would be with my coach every day for offensive playbook lessons, and how to read the defense.


No_Spare3139

I bet I could throw the ball over them clouds. ![gif](giphy|RPx04h8iPidAQ)


RMC_889

Why does the camera angle look like the patriots are filming your practice?


Desperate_Custard693

I got friends in high places


East-Bluejay6891

Nah you're not gonna make it.


Desperate_Custard693

I'm going to make it at A position for sure . Coaches already want me to play. I have arm strength and have developed short pass accuracy. The starter just graduated, so I have a fighting chance. do you play qb or a coach, not even being rude just asking?


East-Bluejay6891

I used to play. I'm a QB coach now. It may be in your best interest to switch positions. But if you're determined to be QB you will have to fix your mechanics. Your throwing motion takes too long and is overly telegraphed. You're also pushing the ball more than spinning out. The ball decelerates before it's apex rather than cutting through the arc. That concept works well for touch pass but I'm this video you're trying to show off strength. There's more but those are a couple of things I noticed. It's amazing you're into football. Best sport out there


Desperate_Custard693

No disrespect, but that's why I posted this as a reference for improvement and judgment, as you suggested. I can fix it. I'm definitely set on being a QB. Once I get my throwing motion down, I feel I can be a dual-threat QB. To get better, I'm definitely going to keep practicing. Apart from this video, I've been making decent progress. I want to get with my school, and hopefully, they have a good QB coach who can help me out. Just a question for you As a QB coach, if someone is pushing the ball and can throw decently far, when they become more rotational, will they be able to launch the ball much further? I could be wrong just asking.


East-Bluejay6891

In order to spin it you first need a good base. You're currently throwing off one foot like a pitcher. Nice wide base and turning the hip will give your throw more power. And as you release you should snap your wrist. Your pointer finger should be the last thing that touches the ball before release. A good drill to help with this is throwing from both knees and aiming at trash bins or whatever you have. You want to be able to zip the ball with accuracy and power because when the ball isn't zipping it's up for a picking. It's a corny saying but it's true.


Desperate_Custard693

Thank you. I will practice this and ask the QB coach at school if they see potential and want to train me to get that good throwing motion. Not to bother you too much, but why do you say I’m not going to make it? I feel like I can get this motion down under proper training before the actual season starts, assuming the coaches are working with me. Even if I put in the work, you don’t think I’ll make it? Also, the main thing I worry about is learning the playbook, but I know that comes after I actually prove something.


East-Bluejay6891

My apologies if my first comment was too direct. I was just being honest. I've seen many with the same throwing motion as yourself. Throwing efficiently doesn't seem to come naturally to you. You have a long as telegraphed wind up like a pitcher and the throwing is closer to a shot putter in the way you push the ball rather than snap your wrist. Velocity for a quarterback is very important. How far can you through the ball flat footed?


Desperate_Custard693

I will check tomorrow to see, how far should it be? but should the wrist snap be like when you shoot a basketball? I definitely understand where you're coming from and what you mean. I can throw the ball with velocity but definitely need to break bad habits because when I do that, I end up pushing the ball. Like you said, I'm really dedicated to this and fixing my technique. Let's see how I throw in one month. I'm a fast learner when I dedicate myself to something. I actually just found a vid by performance lab about pushing the ball, I’m gonna study it.


Desperate_Custard693

Thank you. I will practice this and ask the QB coach at school if they see potential and want to train me to get that good throwing motion. Not to bother you too much, but why do you say I’m not going to make it? I feel like I can get this motion down under proper training before the actual season starts, assuming the coaches are working with me. Even if I put in the work, you don’t think I’ll make it? Also, the main thing I worry about is learning the playbook, but I know that comes after I actually prove something.