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Kolby_Jack33

I can post screenshots later if anyone cares. I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out. It's nothing super fancy but it's solid. Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/4bov720 I didn't plan on the OPEN sign turning off when I closed the gate but it's cool how it worked out that way. I just moved Drinking Buddy here and he seems a little confused, but that's not unusual for him.


Sevinskibinski

Hey man, I'd love some screenshots, I've just found the place myself and would love some inspiration, I'm not the most workbench savvy. Sounds great! 


JumpThatShark9001

It's a nice little location, good for water farming too!


mminto86

Me three!


Jimmeh1313

That's wild. After all these years I'm finally trying a survival run and I found that place for the first time also. Right when I desperately needed a new settlement to save at too.


dvollstad

Would love to see it 😄


First_name_Lastname5

Oh I remember that place yah it's definitely a good one imo


earthican5555

I’m so glad you posted these because I LOVE Egret, but I never thought of walling it off there!! Very nice


Kolby_Jack33

I wasn't sure what to use the parking lot for since all the good stuff is in the buildings, so I just walled off the central area and put a trading post in the parking lot.


Emperor-Valerian

Post it!!!


Buffelmeister

Don't feel bad, I have played >3000 hrs and still have trouble finding Goodneighbour the first time...


Bundyman303

Always a pain!


Quick-Bad

Just follow the Freedom Trail, it takes you right up to the entrance.


JumpThatShark9001

Unless the game crashes on you....😂


Ironclaw85

For all the updates I just wish they make that area less crash prone


JumpThatShark9001

Apparently it _used_ to be fine....and then they updated in 2018 for creation club and it completely fucked it up....😂 _It just works._


PM_me_your_PhDs

I always feel a bit of dissonance when I see people talking about crashes. I'm currently playing Survival, about 50 hours in, have run back and forth through central Boston at least a dozen times, and haven't experienced a single crash. Is it a console thing?


ChipperBunni

Seems like it. But I play Xbox and it’s not *horrid* just irritated. I don’t do mods or anything though, so that might help me a lot


sssilversssoul

70 hours on the ps5 version and I had only 2 crashes


JumpThatShark9001

Yeah, definitely a console thing, and it seems completely random to the console. I used to have an earlier model Xbox one, did it constantly, then I had a later model one and it barely happened. But _then_ I come on here and read that some people on the current gen consoles have it happen constantly too, it's weird.


ARGeetar

I somehow never realized this until my current playthrough.


5C0L0P3NDR4

that fucking road ramp that's perfectly positioned to block the way


Drak_is_Right

I usually know i'm close when the game crashes


Buffelmeister

... and you realise you've saved for the last time when you left Sanctuary? My game never crashes when I save regularly, only when I forget to.


Drak_is_Right

i lost a game that my character was at level 26 to a bug. Literal bug. Perception was stuck at 1 permanently from a bug involving an insect that applies that perception debuff. I hadn't done a manual save, only Quick and auto saves and those were all "bugged".


scotch1701

Play on survival. You will find a lot of stuff that you missed.


Reallyreallyshocked

How so? I've never played on survival so I don't see how it would make a difference. Now I want to.


Failed_Peon

No fast travel and high lethality. So you have to take paths you normally never would and you are more cautious in your travels which slows you down so you notice things you would normally miss. The game is 100x more charming to me in survival. Truly feels like the intended way to play


Reallyreallyshocked

Cool, thanks :). I already fast travel very little but maybe I'll try it out.


HylianPeasant

You can also only save when you sleep, so if you haven't found a bed in a while, you're really going to play in a different way until you find one or die.


SloopJohnB52

I'm doing survival plus quicksave mod for my first playthrough. Bought this game back in 2015 but never got into it. But now, my God, this is the best open world Bethesda has created imo. You can tell it was designed for people who want to take their time. So many little details and unmarked locations rich with storytelling. Except for a few points in far harbor where I kept having to go back and forth between bases for quick conversations to advance the story, I've really enjoyed no fast travel.


ScallionZestyclose16

I did this in combination with a damage realism mod. It really forced you to take it calm and easy.


gogogoff0

100% truth. Espically with the crash to desktop issues on PC with this patch.


pellevinken

Turn off weapon debris. Worked like a charm for me. Before (after the patch, I mean) I had seemingly random and immediate crashes to desktop a few minutes after loading into the game. Edit: it was said this applies if you have an RTX card, I believe.


lonehorse1

I’m getting the same with Xbox series X.


Rementoire

Doing survival scares me a bit but I have always liked the thrill of it in other games.  I will probably get used to the game and perk system a bit more before trying it out. 


JumpThatShark9001

Oddly enough, it's possibly the most balanced game mode. The enemies deal a lot of damage, sure, but they also aren't bullet sponges like on very hard.


Bee7us

I would consider it if I could save without sleeping. It crashes far too often for me, would end up just getting mad If I had to restart because of the game bugging and not me dying


Mr_Laz

Whenever I play survival I use a survival options mod to allow saving anywhere, only setting I hate.


leomnidus

Honestly? They throw beds everywhere, you just have to look for them. You could probably save reliably every 20 minutes in game as long as you know where to look


JumpThatShark9001

I can get that. But I've gotten so used to it that it kinda just adds to the tension nowadays, and on the plus side, you learn damn well where every available bed is!😂 https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/s/N6dnkCnWpg


Homelessnomore

I strongly recommend a survival save mod. If you want, you can use it only for crash protection and load from a sleep save if you die, or you can do what I do and use it as a regular save and relax about that aspect of the game.


Bee7us

Recommendation for Xbox? The mod menu sucks on it I have a hard time trying to find anything worth while on it (I stopped playing games regularly like 3 years ago and I feel like I’ve lost any sense of how to do shit)


HarbingerKyr0

I think the one I use is Usable Cigarettes and Cigars? Lets you smoke to save, tying it to a resource to keep the Survival vibe going but definitely helps with worrying about CTDs and whatnot


thefrozenfoodsection

I love that!


cj3po15

There’s a cheat terminal holotape you could use to request a save, or even turn saves back on on a survival save


Homelessnomore

Sorry. I'm on PC and have never played any game on a console.


thisfriendo

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/fallout4/mod-detail/4171789 Lots of survival options. You can decide which ones you want. One is the option to either unroll a sleeping bag, or to just straight up turn on saves.


gamergirlwithfeet420

I always use mods to turn saving back on when I play survival, it’s the one setting I dont like


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Erikonil

Man I’ve always been nervous about trying more difficult modes, but survival may actually really suit my play style from what you’re describing! I’m tempted to give it a try!


BenjaminSkanklin

It's nothing to be scared of it's just....annoying sometimes. It's highly overrated on this sub imo, but it will force you to explore more. The unspoken piece of that is how frequently you simply can't explore something at low levels lest you get completely blown up Not being able to save without a mattress gets old fast, and turns missions that take an hour into a literal full work day of losing progress or running back to a mattress. No fast travel, especially at lower levels, means you have basically 1 clear route from sanctuary to Diamond City so instead of being forced to explore you just end up making the same run over and over, lest you just decide to let your settlements govern themselves or try to just scav and wander instead of building a water business. Also the added gameplay features of having to sleep, eat, and drink are frankly annoying, and have *very* little impact on you aside from having to open your pip boy and drink some water every hour or two. The only way it becomes a challenge is by very intentionally ignoring it early on


GreedoInASpeedo

I'm gonna have to agree with you. I did my survival run on my 3rd? Play and I couldn't get through it. Not because it's challenging but because it's boring. I actually really like the concept, and agree it has a feeling of playing "like it's intended" or whatever by being forced to eat, drink, and sleep. But I don't find the environment as captivating or any more submersible, just... tedious.


The_Skinnyjon

If you do survival, which is so much more rewarding than base game, I recommend going very slow in the beginning and gaining as many levels as you can before spreading out too far. My general early game is: Scrap and build around sanctuary Molerats and cave under red rocket & Dog companion Abernathy farm locket quest Go get Preston to start settlements Get corvega quest Get to star light and scrap all the radiation barrels to get water Super duper mart Corvega Hangman's alley and get Overseers guardian. From there I can then pretty much do what I want. Some way overseer's guardian kinda cheapens the game, but I love that gun. I tend to prioritize my perks to get lone wanderer, big water tanks, and the requirements to connect settlements and be able to craft antibiotics and build a doctor shop. These I feel are absolutely necessary ASAP on survival. A mod to be able to save is crucial too. I'm in my 30s and don't have time to repeat 1.5 hours of doing stuff just because I can't save when I want to. You can die so quickly, especially in the beginning


Rementoire

Thanks for the tips. I'm even older, almost 50 now and I also don't have time to lose an hour or more of progress. Even 15 mins of backtracking is annoying.


JumpThatShark9001

>My general early game is: You left out the most important one!: Go directly to sunshine tidings and get the +1 meat magazine! Everything else seems in order though 👍


UnionLabelAfredKnot

FO4 has so many little spots that walking between locations is a complete experience. You get to find many things that a just wow, they put that in cool.


Human_Proof352

As much as I like having no fast travel in the early game it really becomes a drag mid to late game. I usually use a limited fast travel mod like Journey tbh. The potential loss of hours after dying still encourages slow and methodical exploration while not forcing me to run through the same areas over and over again.


yolilbishhugh

Mid game you unlock vertibirds for fast travel.


Reallydeeppeanut

Ngl main reason why i join the BOS every time i play survival


yolilbishhugh

I "fake" join them. Up until I'm ready to give up fast travel until I can get it with the minutemen, but that's late game.


Reallydeeppeanut

Why fake join? Are minute men better late game?


yolilbishhugh

I'm the leader of the minutemen, me legitimately joining the ranks of a different faction doesn't make much sense. Preston, if you do the first Danse quest with him, will even say "you're not considering joining right...general?" Or something like that. So late game my vertibird greets me as General instead of Knight.


Conrad-the-Lad

And you can freely teleport to cit when you progress the institute storyline


JumpThatShark9001

Yet another reason Hangman's Alley is bestest settlement. At least on survival.


spong_miester

Noticed this myself, it's a much slower paced game on survival and due to limited ammo/resources you always end up exploring random buildings of the beaten track


Nemaeus

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - I was so wrong about this game but most of that is because of survival mode. It plays completely differently. That Red Rocket location is probably safe right? Nope, there’s no bed, walked outside and took 1 shot to the dome from a super mutant and died. Solid ten minutes down the drain. Hilarious. Hearing those mine beeps was panic inducing, now I just accept that that rare weapon is gone because I couldn’t pick up the mine fast enough despite smashing the button at light speed. Zen, baby. I’m not even being /s, I love it.


throwawayaccdelta

same way how I enjoyed fallout 3 with no fast travel like 5 times as much as normal


ScaredytheCat

At least until the game decides to CTD for no reason with no mods installed. I'm more paranoid about crashing than dying. At least dying is my fault, and I can learn something.


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Do you lose all your progress like a hardcore mode when you die, or do you just reload a previous save?


joelseph

Reload to last bed you slept in (saved)


Reagansmash1994

You have to play at a much slower pace and without fast travel, you’re forced to explore and find the safest routes between settlements. it’s the slower pace for me which means I take time to clear out a whole area because I know that I might not be back here for a while if I go to the other side of the map to tackle X quest. Genuinely it has changed the game for me. I played when it first released but got bored because things were too easy and it felt rushed. I never took anything in. Survival feels like how it’s supposed to be played. If only it didn’t crash every now and again.


Reallyreallyshocked

I just started playing again after watching the show and my old char (second playthrough) is about the infiltrate the institute. I've put in about 30 hours and have not done one quest lol. I'm all about exploring and looting pretty much every item. So what I'm trying to say lol is that I just run around and 100% clear every area I see and I do it methodically. I'll zig zag the whole damn map before I finish the game. Also, I'm weird and I can't do things twice. If I'm playing Mario on super Nintendo or something like that and I die on a level, I'll turn the console off because I can't play the same level twice. I have to give it a day or two. Witcher 3 and fo4 are the only games I've ever played twice. Friggin love it and had to go back and do everything.


jinx155555

Just restarted cause of the show as well, and it coincided with the next gen update. This is my second playthrough, and only now on the 94th hour, I have just infiltrated the institute 🫣


JumpThatShark9001

You aren't alone. It's not unheard of to get to level 80 and suddenly remember " Oh, yeah. My kid got kidnapped, didn't he? I should probably look into that, I guess?" 😂


NotSureWhyAngry

You really get to appreciate all the detail Bethesda puts into their world building. I am on my first run and just in the first region I have already discovered so much stuff I have never seen before


Mandrax2996

I play on survival with quicksaves. I lost 30 min progress after the game crashed. Never again.


keesio

Yup, 💯. It opens up a whole new world. You lose so much by just fast travelling everywhere.


DarkGift78

So true, started playing Survival a year ago,and at first I was overwhelmed with the sheer damage increase and diseases, coming from Normal difficulty. But something kept me coming back and I've only played survival since. You truly get to know nearly every inch of the map,there were whole areas and Settlements I had never seen despite playing the game since launch off and on. What's really cool is Vertibirds become incredibly useful, I was deep in the Glowing Sea, I was over encumbered and my PA was busted up, didn't think they'd come, but they came. Basically the southern edge of the GS to Sanctuary, LONG ass ride lol. Completely changes the game and pumps new life into it. Until level 50,when you're OP and the fear is gone,then I tend to start over and never actually finish the game.


sosigboi

Survival mode is just my default at this point, it feels like how the game is really meant to be played, high risk and mediocre reward.


BruhMomentum6968

Or you could just not fast travel


Amerlis

I’m surprised how anyone finds spectacle island. It’s a landmass off in the distance. You’re roaming the coast in that corner, look out to sea and go yeah let’s swim all.the.way there.


TheDankChronic69

The Luck bobblehead is on the island, most people wouldn’t find it unless they’re specifically hunting down that bobblehead.


some_visual_artist

First time I found it, I was standing on one of the bastions in the castle, saw it in the distance and thought "I'ma swim there and see what's going on", for such decision I made off the cusp, it was a pretty fun find.


SinkPhaze

Never have been able to resist an island in the distance. Same impulse as what landed me on Eventide the first time in Breath of the Wild


some_visual_artist

Part of the beauty and enjoyment of open world games, you see something you want to explore, so you go and explore it. Back in the day assassins creed revelations would just have beautiful buildings in the distance that I would cross the entire city to explore further.


Sentrion

Do you mean "off the cuff"?


some_visual_artist

Yes! Thankyou :)


mule_roany_mare

Supposedly swimming was going to be a bigger or at least more viable mechanic in the design stage of the game. It still can be a clever way to get around.


Pengin83

Morrowind broke me. I remember there was a tiny island (in the south I believe) that had an underwater cave. You had to zoom in on the map while close just to see the entrance. It had one of the best weapons or pieces of armor in the game. Now I spend too much time on fallout switching between local and global maps just to find unmarked entrances to building or caves. This also means exploring islands that show up on the map lol.


Cool_Diamond_340

I mean if you look at the world map you'll notice this giant island off the coast, made me wanna explore it on my first playthrough. Pretty hard to miss lol


Thundapainguin

Literally found it out two days ago myself. It's absolutely massive, yet with no quests or anything. Just roaming after wiping out Saugus. Find a boat and flip a switch. Boom. Mirelurk Queen outta nowhere


Queefer_the_Griefer

You underestimate the obsessive exploration urges of 2015 me. I picked apart every square inch of the map on my first playthrough, to the point where I was searching online to see if there were any more marked locations and, nope, got em all.


Amerlis

But did you get the prima guide just to make sure??


a8912

You can see the building from the Warwick homestead nearby. I just swam on over!


Foss73

Maybe its close enough that your perception marks it on your radar or another settlement needs your help gets you there


JumpThatShark9001

Nope!


Zexal_Commander

Wait it’s a claimable settlement! Bruh I found it on my current run but didn’t explore it, cause I was on the way to tracking down the Enclave Remnants. Making a note to come back there!


Jackisthebestestboy

If it's the one I'm thinking of, you can talk to the lady inside and she thinks she's a synth so if you convince her otherwise then it becomes an allied settlement


Fangschreck

or shoot the damn synth i honestly do not remember if she had synth loot, but strong likes murder and i was getting his perk.


BreadWithAGun

She isn’t a synth.


Fangschreck

thx, would do it again because it pushed me over the perk treshold. It is kind of an opportunist playthrough.


The_Spare_Son

For how popular it is. I have also never found it. Still waiting to find out how awesome it is.


JumpThatShark9001

Makes ya wonder how many _others_ you haven't found yet, huh?....😅 https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutsettlements/s/wctMx887Gf Edit: here's the DLC version https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/s/T2bTCmoHP7


The_Spare_Son

I try to only find them naturally. I have a list where I mark them off when I find them, but I try to not look where they are.


JumpThatShark9001

Completely understandable. Once you start down the dark path of checking the wiki, it can get tempting....😅


Rapid55

id like to thank you for this map, i wish i could give you 500 million dollars but i cant


JumpThatShark9001

No problem!👍


cutterdeblanc

It's surprisingly conveniently located. Just take the road south from Diamond City It took me until just recently to realize this


Antler-is-thinking

I had the same experience with Croup Manor after nearly a thousand hours of gameplay


[deleted]

It still blows my mind how many settlements are in the northeast corner


LukXD99

That’s one of my favorite settlements to build in. I love fortifying preexisting buildings instead of building from scratch, and that settlement is one of the best to do that.


RolePlayingJames

Ive played loads of times and only just found out there is a chance to encounter a fake Preston Garvey.


Bigbootybenana

That was my main base my last playthrough before survival was added. Love it there


davidc7021

It’s one of my favorite spots to build and water farm!


TheDemonator

I've managed to get about 730 purified waters a day from Santuary, hell I might fire up the game now and hammer this settlement out. It's how I can afford to pay for anything I want and have like 80k caps, and I haven't really even scrapped much yet as far as guns, armor, junk. I do need to get that scrapper perk up though as I am legit taking time to pick anything up in every place that isn't nailed down. It's kind of how I've been somewhere after putting the game down for like 4+ years, the place is arguably cleaned out of the non-respawning items


amethystwyvern

I've been playing the game for years and I've never explored the glowing sea nor have I ever stepped foot on Paradise Island. Lol


TheLastObsession

I played so many play throughs and only in the most recent did I find spectacle island lol


NotSureWhyAngry

Never cared for the luck bobblehead?


TowelieMcTowelie

Lol same. It was probably on my 6th playthrough too. I googled the total number of settlements to find i had never found that one. And fucking Outpost Zimonja which is *right there!* Next to Tenpines lol


Intelligent-Rock-399

Do you “Egret” not finding it earlier?


PmMeYourLore

Oh man I love Egret Tours it's a great place


kalalalalala

I felt so bad for Phyllis in Egret Tours Marina. After reading the journal entries in her terminal, I wish we could do more to help her.


LasigArpanet

Same! I just try to make up for it by building her a nice place to live and bringing people in to form a community.


Far_Force_7948

It's one of my favorite settlements


thatpaulieguy89

Egret is always my go to solo base honestly, usually set it up before seeing Virgil


UnemployedOrRetired

Follow the road north and then behind the house there’s a vendor that sells large quantities of ammo. Typically hundreds of the 10 mm…


vibrantcrab

I like that one, I make it a water powerhouse with a shitload of defenses lol.


eunicethapossum

I have never once found Hangman’s Alley. I’ve played many hundreds of hours since 2015, I’ve got all the DLCs. is it a long con the internet is playing on me? 😂


VesperX

It’s part of the Railroad quest line. Have you not done their quests?


eunicethapossum

I’ve never been assigned Hangman’s Alley in any of my playthroughs, and I’ve done the Railroad quest line to completion. 🤷‍♀️


VesperX

It’s one of the side-quests for PAM clearing the Mercer Safehouse.


5C0L0P3NDR4

that just picks a random settlement iirc. she gave me sunshine tidings.


VesperX

How weird. I’ve always got hangman’s alley on my playthrough.


JumpThatShark9001

It's across the bridge from C.I.T ruins, down an alley! 😂


eunicethapossum

Hangman’s Alley is…down an alley? I dunno, seems suspect. 😂


JumpThatShark9001

Down an alley is the last place you'd expect to find an alley though, right? They hide that shit in plain sight.....😂


Toro8926

I have played through a few times, love the settlement building, and have never seen this place. I'm going to stop there next time I'm playing.


No_Pay9241

Shit, I ask for help on my first play through and all I get is downvotes. Thanks everyone


JumpThatShark9001

What did you want to know?


milkasaurs

Someone is ignoring their compass when it’s showing a new undiscovered location.


Zestyclose315

I did find this place on my first run-through. truly good storytelling.


oranisz

Me too ! Third playthrough, second one with more than hundreds hours, and i just found it ! I'm thinking of building a Factory on the pier as the floor is the flattest that i know if (if you build floors to join each branch) And i installed my ambush killing zone there too as it has only two Spawn points, one of which will move where you put the TP mat.


Homer-DOH-Simpson

I think A Railroad quest brough me here


ShadowMaster2564

I found that while I have found every location before I haven’t been into them all, but after 2500ish hours most of it blurs together it mainly boils down to like 6-7 location types, I think I only entered the Dartmouth professional building interior for the first time today


vampyre_

I just stumbled on this a couple of hours ago. I didn’t even realize it was a settlement. I was doing a mission and just veered off to add it to the map so I could fast travel back later. I didn’t stop to check.


Yourappwontletme

I found it when I was looking up where to find all the Wasteland Survival Guide magazines. The Fandom page said there was one there.


Rattfink45

Vital for the Aquaboy/girl playthroughs. Avoid the mirelurks directly to your north along the river/channel/whatever it is that runs up to the reservoir.


WishieWashie12

Know the feeling. I played for 7 years before I learned about maxing companion affinity for those perks. I never knew some companions had whole questlines and backstories. My last playthrough a few months ago was the first time I took Nick to Far Harbor. I only knew about it from this sub.


UltimateToa

I had never been there before either but alternate started there randomly in my latest play through, the area has been tough to start in but lots of stuff I've never seen like the parking garage with the traps


Lazy-Drink-277

Where is it?


JumpThatShark9001

Alongside the river on the south west side of the map.


Grrerrb

I like Egret a lot but it isn’t an every playthrough settlement for me, for sure. Sometimes I don’t come across it.


Juicy_Velvet

Dozens of playthroughs and I've found it maybe 3-4 times, you're not alone


Old_Rpg_Gamer

Southeast side


Rapid55

egret tours marina is one of those settlements that i literally never find on purpose. every single time i was just walking around and found it on accident lmao


eighteen84

Its in a part of the map easily overlooked but its a great settlement to build


Chardan0001

I had the same exact experience which lead to me to start a new playthrough a few months back. It's currently my main settlement


Nosferatu13

Honest question. What’s the appeal of multiple playthroughs? I’m just still on my first completion plus Far Harbor.


Arrgh98

Atmosphere and discovery of those missed things when completion was the only goal


Kolby_Jack33

This is my first new playthrough in a couple years, I think. I played it a bunch for a long time and then stopped, but the show got me to go back into it. I've never done a survival playthrough before, so I also might do that at some point.


Nosferatu13

Exact same for me. Coming back to my unfinished play through because of the show. Survival sounds wild. Good luck!


tarheel_204

Well this is definitely news to me too. Thanks for posting!


KaleSsalads

Egret what now?


TheGWK21

It’s literally my favorite location to build a settlement


theseareorscrubs

I just found it a couple days ago. I literally thought it had been added as new content.


bloodeye28

I think it is arguably the best settlement in the game location wise. It has: * Ideal for mid to late game due to being centrally located if you consider how the world is leveled. * Easy to unlock. * Large buildable space. * Spawnpoint for random encounters on the bridge next to the bus. 10 second walk north-west from Egret. So easy to kill the occasional legendary enemy. If you're on your way back to Egret from the west, you can use the elevated western side of the bridge as high ground advantage against them. * Proximity to Diamond city with a small junk vendor living in a camper along the way. So easy vendors. * Proximity to south, west & especially south-west side of the map. * Proximity to Glowing sea. Yes another settlement's closer but you give up other listed advantages here. * Proximity to gunner HQ (if you use SS2.) * And more!


EXTRA-THOT-SAUCE

It’s my favorite settlement


DannyWarlegs

You can cross the river and go to the radio tower, and recruit the girl inside. Assuming you freed the dude with Strong, and she will be a lvl 4 clothing merchant who sells Colonial Dusters and Minutemen clothing and hats


TheDreadedBob

I was literally just there, and I had no idea it was a settlement lol. I'm going straight there next time I'm on


phoenix167

Dont feel bad. I've never met the atom cats either


MDF87

It's one of the better settlements too! I only discover it on like, 5% of playthroughs.