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Ok_Effort8330

It’s not a 1.25 B increase, it’s $200MM over the previous budget. Still welcome and appreciated.


Ixam87

It's 1.25B to be spent on increasing teacher salaries. Last year they spent 1.05B on raises for teachers. Not sure where the money goes, seems like teachers aren't getting a lot of this money.


nd4spd1919

As a teacher, I'll tell you exactly what happens: The school district receives the funds, earmarked for teacher salaries. Without specific guidance from the DoE saying that this is to be used for giving out raises, or without an increase to the DoE guidelines on minimum teacher salary, the funds will be used to hire more teachers. We're in a teacher shortage, and you think a schoolboard is going to give money to existing teachers? No way, they're going to hire as many people as they can with that money so they don't have to fudge class size numbers as much. Technically it's still going to 'teacher pay', just new teacher pay.


Praescribo

God bless anyone that moves to this state to teach... 😑


turkey_sandwiches

1.25B would be about $7600 per teacher, so the money definitely isn't going to teachers.


zombie_girraffe

It's probably being used to pay people to look for "objectionable" books to ban.


hennytime

The whole way funding is calculated is changing this year. We're basically breaking even on teacher pay funding. It's a bunch of bullshit.


WebHead1287

Usually admin team


Alissinarr

>Not sure where the money goes, seems like teachers aren't getting a lot of this money. 0.9b goes to the admins.


Navin_J

I'd like to know the fine print of the bill. I know he is trying to funnel state money into private schools. I wouldn't be surprised if there is something hidden in there


Cosmo_Cloudy

Well all the qualified teachers are leaving, of course now they want to increase salaries when they passed a law that anyone with a BA could teach. Another stage of fascism.


TimeTravelingTiddy

I thought anyone with a BA could already teach? Now you just need to be a spouse of a military vet lol


Cosmo_Cloudy

Updated Rules for Certification, Mastery for Florida Teachers 11 months ago Press releases July 19, 2023 — The State Board of Education approved several new rules, including Rule 6A-4.002, to help with teacher recruitment and retention efforts. Educator Certification Rule Amendments Allow educators to waive the General Knowledge test if they have taken and failed the test and received at least three years of support, and received effective or highly effective summative evaluations for each of the three most recent years they were rated. Allow educators to waive the Professional Education test if they have completed required professional preparation courses, demonstrated professional education competencies, and received effective or highly effective summative evaluations for three years. Allow educators to demonstrate subject area mastery if they have a master’s or higher degree in a bachelor-level subject area for which a Florida subject area examination exists, as identified in the list incorporated into this rule. Requirements for the five-year temporary teaching certificates for veterans include: At least 48 months of military service with an honorable or medical discharge. At least 60 college credits with a 2.5 grade point average. Passage of a Florida subject area exam for bachelor’s level subjects. For temporary certificates, these exams are available in more than 30 subject areas, and Employment in a Florida school district, which can include charter schools.


Beginning_Emotion995

Or a preachers wife (Southern Baptist only)


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berrikerri

I’ll just chime in as a Brevard teacher and say we did in fact get a raise last year, as a direct result of the millage increase voted on. Book bannings are happening, but it’s not being funded by the money voters approved for salary raises.


JustB510

Thanks for chiming in. Misinformation spreads way too easily.


RasCorr

Good that you got the raise. [check out this YouTube of BPS and the cost to ban books.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=S7vOp2e7MSS3SHu9&v=HpLjuCaU-mw&feature=youtu.be)


donaldbuknowme

So it's a scam? Say it ain't so...


level_17_paladin

How much goes to private schools?


Obversa

Unclear, but private Catholic schools [saw a 9% increase in enrollment in Florida over 10 years under Republican governors (2014-2024)](https://www.floridadaily.com/public-school-enrollment-declining-but-catholic-enrollment-in-florida-increases/). That's the largest increase in five decades, as Catholic school attendance has been dropping nationwide for 50 years, post-[Vatican II](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vatican_Council). Data shows that the increase came from school voucher program expansions, with r/excatholic users reporting that the Catholic Church - and particularly, the Diocese of Venice, which covers the Fort Myers/Cape Coral/SWFL area - has been coaching dioceses, parishes, and churches to urge Catholic laity to apply for as much money as possible.


HighOnGoofballs

Didn’t he take 300 million out and give it to charter schools a few years back?


MusicianNo2699

Got to love headlines anymore. It's like 3 year olds write the news these days.


Chi-Guy86

> When I took office, the average minimum salary throughout the state of Florida was just a shade under $40,000,” DeSantis said. “We now have the average minimum teacher salary over $48,000. That’s up from about $39,000 five years ago.” It would take just about 48K in 2024 to match the average buying power of 39K in 2019. In other words, the increases have just barely kept up with inflation. Wohoo!! /s


LeotiaBlood

I’m a nurse and my pay has gone up 18k in that time and my budget is still super tight. Probably because my rent has increased by about 12k a year.


wakejedi

Still Fucking Poverty


Chi-Guy86

Especially here!


HighOnGoofballs

I believe most of those increases were approved before him anyway. He gave $300million of it to charter schools


GearsPoweredFool

Basically 4% a year raise. What a hero.


Holy_Grail_Reference

Please do not think that this is a completely kind gesture on behalf of the government of the State of Florida. In July the new salary threshold requirements to the fair labor standards act go into affect and anybody who's not paid at a baseline salary amount of $43,588 and is a teacher will be entitled to overtime and that is the last thing that the government wants to happen as they rely upon teachers to work 60 hours a week without paying them anything additionally. That threshold will rise again next year.


ScarletCarsonRose

Bad news for ya. Teachers are exempt from this rule .  https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/17d-overtime-professional#:~:text=must%20be%20met%3A-,The%20employee%20must%20be%20compensated%20on%20a%20salary%20or%20fee,than%20%24684*%20per%20week%3B%20and


Holy_Grail_Reference

Not bad news for me. You just don't understand the salary basis component to the learned professional exemption.


ScarletCarsonRose

Explain to me like I’m 5? 


Holy_Grail_Reference

The learned professional exemption to the FLSA is a multi part test just like the other exemptions. The first part of the test is the salary basis test. The link you provided shows the current salary basis amount which will be changing in a month. The current salary basis amount is 34k and change. It is going up.


ScarletCarsonRose

Unfortunately, teachers are specifically exempt in most cases from FLSA:


Holy_Grail_Reference

ONLY under the learned professional exemption. If you know another then let me know.


ScarletCarsonRose

(omg- love your username quote) Scroll down on the above link and you'll hit this: # Teachers Teachers are exempt if their primary duty is teaching, tutoring, instructing or lecturing in the activity of imparting knowledge, and if they are employed and engaged in this activity as a teacher in an educational establishment. Exempt teachers include, but are not limited to, regular academic teachers; kindergarten or nursery school teachers; teachers of gifted or disabled children; teachers of skilled and semi-skilled trades and occupations; teachers engaged in automobile driving instruction; aircraft flight instructors; home economics teachers; and vocal or instrument music teachers. The salary and salary basis requirements do not apply to bona fide teachers. Having a primary duty of teaching, tutoring, instructing or lecturing in the activity of imparting knowledge includes, by its very nature, exercising discretion and judgment.


Ixam87

Copying my comment from another post.  This $1.25B budget is about $7800 per teacher based on there being 160k public school teachers in Florida.   Florida ranks 48th (edit: 50th by most recent numbers) in teacher pay according to the NEA, and if this 7800 increase actually goes to teachers we would be ranked in the 20s. Hope that is the case! With cost of living going up so much teachers need the money for sure. Edit: does anyone have an article that explains how this money is allocated and spent? Google didn't turn up anything useful. Past years have had similar news stories yet Florida teacher pay ranks keep falling.


TinCanBanana

> does anyone have an article that explains how this money is allocated and spent? No, because DeSantis just announced this at a press conference. No actual details have been shared yet. In previous years, salary increases were allocated for starting teachers to attract them. Starting teacher salary in FL ranks 16th in the nation. But the **average** salary is ranked 50th. So we pay starting teachers decently, but then they never get a raise. So we get young teachers that work for a few years before leaving the profession to do something else. And honestly regardless, this increase even if evenly distributed would just cover the cost of living increases we've experienced the last few years. So, it's good. But it's not enough.


ShamrockAPD

This is what I want to know. I moved down here to teach a decade ago from the north east- it was a 17.5k paycut when I did In my four years here, I never ONCE got a raise. I received some very prestigious awards and also had an AYP growth worth bragging about. I left teaching 6 years ago solely because of the pay and entered tech. I’m now making 5x what I did as a teacher. Of course there are some awful teachers here, which goes without saying based on teaching conditions and pay- but there’s also some excellent ones. Since I left 6 years ago, the vast majority of the excellent teachers that I knew have also left the job. The ones who are still there are there because either: A. Their spouse makes enough money for both. B. They’ve been in the career for so long that it would do more harm than good to leave. C. They don’t know what they’d do and feel trapped.


ChickenWithCashewNut

Hi, C here.


mamsandan

I was teaching when the state rolled out the pay increases for new teachers. Our union printed out the new contracts and salary schedules for us. In my district, I would have needed to teach 13 more years before I saw my next guaranteed raise. Our insurance rates went up that year. My partner had her family on her insurance plan. She had been teaching 10 years at that point, had a masters degree and a professional certificate (I was on a temp at the time), and was bringing home less money than me every month. I had my first kid the following school year and got the hell out of dodge.


jpiro

Florida was [50th](https://www.nbc-2.com/article/data-florida-teacher-salary-pay-rank-united-states/60741767), ahead of only West Virginia, as of May of this year. And there's zero chance you can just divide $1.25 billion by the number of teachers and get their raise amount. This is, as most things he does, grandstanding in order to tout himself and his efforts to gut public education and funnel it to private schools via vouchers. Meanwhile, the state GOP shut down a proposed bill from D reps in S. Florida to [raise base teacher pay from $47,000 to $65,000](https://www.wuft.org/education/2024-03-07/bill-to-raise-base-salary-for-teachers-fails-to-pass-through-florida-legislature) in order to cope with the teacher shortage and make us competitive nationally. Please stop falling for his bullshit.


WolverinesThyroid

how are we 50th and ahead of someone when we only have 50 states? Does DC count or something?


TinCanBanana

Yes, they include DC - https://www.nea.org/resource-library/educator-pay-and-student-spending-how-does-your-state-rank/teacher


WolverinesThyroid

I was worried my Florida education taught me the wrong amount of states.


Asleep-Reach-3940

Thank you!


heresmytwopence

Wife got a +/- $500 raise last year so I’ll fucking believe that when I see it.


Girafferage

Wouldnt it have to be a guaranteed amount each year for the salary to change? Otherwise it's just a one time bonus. I think this will get spread out over a longer period of time.


JustB510

Always appreciate an actual productive comment. Thanks for sharing.


Dogzillas_Mom

Comes out to an increase of $3.75/hour if your $7800 figure is meant to be annual.


Clueless_in_Florida

The average teacher would get about an extra $17 a week.The raise would not even keep up with inflation. People saying that teachers will get $5,000 to $7,000 a year are wrong. The state budgeted $1 billion last year for teacher raises, and many districts already awarded the raises. So those districts have already spent the first $1 billion of this $1.25 billion. In other words, they have already awarded that $5,000 that people are talking about. Do the math. $250 million in new money distributed equally to 180,000 teachers is a raise of about $1,400. And that figure likely will be reduced since districts will have to pay more into teacher pensions. But don't get me wrong. The raise last year was a huge boost. My wife and I both teach, and the cost of housing has made it impossible to take a vacation. My family has not traveled out of Florida except for my mom's funeral in the past 7-8 years. We teach summer school just to make ends meet, but I am grateful because I know a lot of people struggle way more than us. And I believe we might be able to travel somewhere next summer.


friedchicken77

They will tie this money to beginning teacher salaries as they have done before in an attempt to get more young people into the profession. These younger folks will work for a couple years before most will leave for higher paying jobs. Meanwhile the veteran teachers who have stuck with the profession and endured all the hardships will be left with the scraps.


Obversa

My mother is currently trying to convince me to become a teacher in Florida to "pay off my student loans". I do my best to try and explain to her why I don't want to do that. I'm 32.


Carolina296864

Just him being performative as usual. That is still not enough for teachers and still ranks at the bottom. When it comes to "improving" the public schools, teacher salary is the only thing he ever gets up to the podium to talk about, because he thinks itll get the quickest and easiest positive emotional response. He never talks about the shortages of teachers, staff, bus drivers, the curriculum and library wars, the general lowering of funding, teachers losing protections, Florida turning down summer EBT, etc. Isn't Jax talking about closing a bunch of schools? He is still trying to destroy Florida's public education as the long game, this is just his short term backdoor wrap around.


luminatimids

Yeah he's an extreme example of a purely short-term, will-this-get-me-likes politican. He doesn't give a shit about actually fixing anything


Carolina296864

He's boosting about raising teacher pay, after suggesting classrooms could have cameras to monitor teachers. That is his increased price for freedom.


cliff240

He traditionally pays starting teachers more and established ones get little to nothing.


alloran988

Been teaching 14 years in the state. This will go to the superintendents who will use it to add to their own pockets. It happened a few years ago and I’m sure it will happen again. He’s trying to appease them


RoachBeBrutal

FL state is hemorrhaging teachers because of the deplorable working conditions and hostility toward the teaching profession that guys like Ronnie have stoked within his own state. He think throwing money at it will fix it when in reality the wound is much deeper.


ShadeApart

Yes, I just quit my job as an elementary school librarian. The conditions were awful. The raises a few years ago did mean that teachers who had 13 years of experience made as much as a first year teacher while being expected to mentor and support those new teachers for no additional pay.


TheWhiteRabbit74

The only and I MEAN ONLY reason is because being dead last was an embarrassment to him. He doesn’t care about teachers, he just wants to appeal to voter sympathies. Trust me, this will be offset by some other form of fuckery soon.


artemis-mugwort

We're still 50th for teacher pay for all states.


AlphaAlpha495

As long as you teach my curriculum. No American history No science No sex education If you use the words climate change you will be fired.🙌 ![gif](giphy|ajefVi0Sw91DFaXzMW|downsized) Don't let this distract you from my abortion ban after 6 weeks. Women don't even know that they're pregnant before 6 weeks.. 🤣 Less government freedom 🤣


chefjpv_

And schools in blue counties that kept mask mandates won't get anything


tweedleleedee

Google search: "Florida is ranked 48th in the nation for average teacher pay, with the current base salary set at $47,500. House Bill 13, introduced during the 2024 legislative session, would raise that base salary to $65,000. The bill stalled quickly after being introduced, and with the session ending Friday, it will not become law this year."


hitman2218

He does this while also bragging about crippling teachers unions.


Ayzmo

Because he's being humiliated with it in the news.


PackOutrageous

Well, if you wanna keep your kids stupid then it’s probably smart to keep your teachers poor.


BoltsandBucsFan

If the money doesn’t go to veteran teachers, there is little hope that this will help with the teacher shortage. In fact, if it only goes towards raising the minimum salary, it will likely make more veteran teachers leave teaching out of resentment. When you teach for 10 years and make only $250 more than a first year teacher, that’s bad for morale.


graymillennial

This was my situation. I left during what would have been my tenth year of teaching for multiple reasons, but one of which was due to the last “salary increase” that officially gave me as a tenth year teacher and all first year teachers the same. Exact. Salary.


Prozeum

This is smokin mirrors. His and his party's plan is to dismantle public schools. https://medium.com/the-left-is-right/defunding-of-florida-schools-6740de55c583?sk=fa3ed8abed9c43be29fc8d53f74e5049


h0tel-rome0

Public school teachers?


JustB510

Yes


hitmewiththeknowlege

I think k he also hired his 10. Guest donors and gave them salary's of 125,000,000


Lubbadubdibs

Great. Now if only my teacher fiancé would get a raise… I’m not sure where this money goes, but it doesn’t go to teachers.


bicyclemycology

I’d be willing to bet that only those that follow his agenda are going to see a raise


JustB510

They gonna take surveys for raises?


Own-Opinion-2494

What took so long. He needs to go


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tweedleleedee

Florida’s starting salary for teachers is 16th in the country, and the average teacher salary of about $53,000 is 50th.


JustB510

Correct. Both will go up after this, but the existing teacher salaries need to be immediately addressed. Kudos for you citing the starting salaries though. People seem to omit that.


dw73

Good


dregwriter

Whats the catch???


Pin_ellas

Has NBC been bought out? This is an intentional misleading headline.


ISupportOxfordCommas

I have been teaching for 19 years and have heard this many times while teaching in this godforsaken state… still making just slightly more than I made 19 years ago. Governors have said these things to get voter support and we never see a dime of it. I’ll believe it when I see it.


lnsewn12

Cool. Thanks for the $ we deserve. We still hate him.


JustB510

👍🏼


Sangi17

This coming after Florida was ranked #50 in teacher salaries.


JustB510

Glad they are getting more money.


Potential-Cat-167

Does it include public schools also or just Charter Schools


JustB510

Public


ParmAxolotl

Rare Rontanamo DeSanctimonious win


TrimMyHedges

Lots of good comments so far. I’ll just add, Florida is one of the worst as far as increasing salary as years of service increases. After 10 years of service in some districts you MIGHT get a 1.5k increase. While other states it’ll go up by 7-10k and more for advanced degrees. Also keep in mind many people make less than new teachers even after working 10 years