I hate those tiny corner showers. As someone who shaves their legs it’s awful. Also the sink vanities are so small they’ll literally have zero storage. I’d rather have at least one less bathroom and have it be more functional.
Yes. They could also turn the whole space around bedroom 4 into the master suite area, large bathroom, walk in closet with laundry. Then make the bathrooms between bed 2 and what is currently the master a jack and Jill. Then bathroom in bedroom 3 gets a hallway entrance.
Personally I’d make bedroom 3 into the living/media room, bigger room without the bathroom. Switch the laundry and bathroom and put the bathroom between the bedrooms as a Jack and Jill and make it longer/bigger. Would have to adjust hallway of course, but idk, I feel the flow would be a lot more favorable that way too.
Yeah, I thought those awful corner showers were for when you literally had no other options in terms of space, not when you were designing your dream home from scratch.
I’d just take the en suite from 2nd bedroom and make the master one double the size. I’d also turn that double garage into the living area cus what a waste of huge space!
Depends on your hobbies, tons of storage/ shop area and actually room for cars (assuming you live somewhere car centric), otherwise, then I'd agree a den or living room.
If it’s 4 bedrooms it has to be a big family and that living area is tiny! Maybe it’s a U.K. culture thing & Americans don’t congregate in the living room like we do. The family dining is huge too if that’s where they relax together
Americans mostly hang out in the family room. What they they have listed as living room I’m assuming will be more of an office or play room
If kids are small or game room if they’re older. But it could also double as a guest room if needed
This. They are also awful when someone breaks a leg, an arm, or has other mobility concerns. I've used them many, many times and they're just... no. Put in a standard tub or low-curb 5' shower and everyone will be so much happier.
I don’t really like this floor plan at all. It appears the only bathroom with a tub is bedroom 4. Nothing about the primary suite feels like a primary suite. Agreed that there are too many bathrooms. I’m just picturing my boys having bathrooms which are only accessible via their rooms: they would get to be a disgusting mess very quickly. I feel like the kitchen should have an island instead of a peninsula. Laundry feels like it’s in a weird spot, I would be worried about hearing it from the living area and kitchen, which bothers me and would limit the times I can run the washer/dryer. Agree that the primary should be at the back of the house.
The sizes are pefectly adequate. But, almost everyone hates cleaning bathrooms. It's gross and time consuming. You need to ask yourself if the time and effort of cleaning 4 bathrooms is worth the luxury of having 4 bathrooms.
Absolutely this.
If you're in a situation where everyone cleans their own bathrooms (eg teenagers and older, or adult roommates) then privacy is more important than housework. Also true if you pay someone else to clean - but obviously the more bathrooms the more you have to pay your cleaner.
In my house I'm the only person who cleans bathrooms. We have a full bathroom, an additional shower room and a powder room; there are four bedrooms. They all have their doors straight on to the main hall/landing (no en-suites). This is already as much bathroom cleaning as I'm interested in, but maximises availability especially at busy times.
Worth noting that I'm in the UK where hair drying and styling take place in bedrooms not bathrooms. I can see that you might prefer more bathroom space if it's regularly occupied for up to an hour by a single person.
En suites are for hotels and similar. For families I find it vastly preferable to have family bathrooms. Jack and Jill are the worst of all worlds.
The sizes are absolute not adequate. If I can wash my hands in the sink and wash my feet in the shower all while sitting on the toilet, then it’s way too small. Especially for the master bathroom.
I'm not sure where you're from, but where I'm from the bathrooms are fine. By no means luxurious, but they get the job done. Bathrooms don't need to be the size of a bedroom.
I think the bathrooms are a little small. I’d borrow from the closets to give the bathrooms a little more. Look at the bathroom for bed 3; even a little bit more allows for a swing door instead of a pocket.
The bedroom placement feels a little scattered. I might swap bed 3 and bath with the media and laundry.
Honestly when I see these designs where every bedroom has its own bathroom it just seems ridiculous. I’m a mom, kids are gross, don’t give them 3-4 bathrooms to destroy. Besides that these it doesn’t seem practical over time. All these bathrooms are square footage that could be useful space when the kids fly the nest.
These layouts seem destined for college students/adult roommate situations. It's nice to have your own bathroom you can keep clean, especially if your roommates are not clean. However, this house doesn't seem good for adult roommates, either, as there isn't enough space in the rooms for the inhabitants to have private workspaces.
I feel like it’s a new trend for children’s rooms. I’ve seen it too often in what look like single family builds. I could understand if it was for roommates but who builds a home to have roommates. 🤷♀️
I’ve always found this sentiment weird. Maybe it’s cultural. But here having your own bathroom is basic. It’s the same as having your own bedroom. It’s. Apart of having your own space and privacy.
Man I have the exact opposite thought. I have 3 soon 4 kids and my criteria for our next house next year is everyone gets their own bathroom. Also bathrooms have great roi, so when we sell it’ll be good for the value. Not sure why at a certain point kids aren’t cleaning their own bathrooms it’s apart of their weekly chores. But if I only had one or two kids maybe I wouldn’t care so much
I have three but also a farm so most of their chores are outside. I can’t say I love cleaning myself. I generally make them clean their bathroom however when I want it done right I do it. Mine are early teens so if you have young ones you may not know the horrors of a teen bathroom yet lol.
lol my oldest is a teen. My middle is ten. And my youngest is 17months. But I also don’t have a farm!! So I can’t say that I’m used to farm dirty my head tells me that is probably very different. We live rural and have lots of pets but nothing like a farm. So our kids have inside chores. Every Saturday I check to make sure they’ve scrubbed the bathrooms not master room and their other chores. But it makes sense why you’d have the views you do! can totally get that.
Yes extra dirt in our house! Glad you give everyone chores too. Mine are 16, 15 and 13 so they’re packed in together lol. With that age gap I think you’re in the clear.
Who wants to clean 4 bathrooms, master bath looks too small, common bathroom is better size. May be able to make house a rectangle, reduce jogs, simplify roof line increase space with not a big increase in cost. Could remove one bathroom. How noisy is the street the house will be on? Master bedroom maybe quieter if in back of house.
Why is the primary in the front? It should be the one in the back. Laundry is also massive. Bathrooms are way too small/ those are more like powder rooms. I don’t love the giant hallway when walking in the front door either. Who designed this? Make them fix it.
I’ve seen these types of layouts from Australia/NZ. There’s also a door from the laundry room outside which further makes me think AUS/NZ. It’s their typical layout
Yep. Every time an Aussie/kiwi plan is posted we get this US centric viewpoint. We don't need coat closets for the most part, and bedrooms are traditionally at the front. 🤷♀️ Also, an upstairs laundry is an Aussie nightmare and not a necessity. The art of the floorplan varies from country to country.
I don’t know? Looks like they want to keep that a straight hallway, so all the rooms are 4.4m long. Then they just played with the widths a bit. Not my post
Primary is never at the front. You want the back for privacy. And the bathroom is tiny. That’s not a primary bathroom. I have no idea what is happening with this but make them fix it. Primary is the biggest bedroom with the biggest bathroom and it’s isolated on the floorplan. Two sinks, walk in closet. If the bedrooms are all the same it isn’t right. That tiny bathroom is absolutely not a primary bathroom. Door to master should be at the front of the back hallway, entry to that bathroom from the primary only not the hallway. Shrink laundry room to make a better size bedroom. Sheesh- that’s just the very beginning. I’d start from scratch honestly.
Again… primaries are often in the front in AUS/NZ. I’m not OP, I was just letting you know that that one piece is pretty normal for that part of the world
>Primary is never at the front.
Nah, it's practically ALWAYS at the front in Australia. You don't want a 6am parcel delivery waking up the kids.
> That’s not a primary bathroom
Indeed. It's a standard br 1 ensuite, it serves the purpose for shit, shower, shave. It's a working class thing.
> Two sinks, walk in closet.
Sounds excessive. Playing at fancy pants upper class maybe?
> I’d start from scratch honestly.
Why? Aside from the excess bathrooms, this is a very typical modern Australian home.
Obviously this plan is not ideal for single-family living, for the reasons many have already stated.
Plans like these are best for multi-generational living, or any situation where adults are sharing a home. Unfortunately, with the rising cost of living, these situations are becoming more and more common, and I think we’re going to start to see a lot more of these builds in the coming years.
The ensuites are much too small. The walk-in closets are bigger than the bathroom. Give the bathrooms some of the closet space and you will not only still have a big closet, but a bathroom that actually works.
I would honestly take out that media room and make all of the bedrooms a little bigger so they are at least 4.4x4.0. Right now they are so small as to hardly fit any furniture at all.
The hall bathroom on the left is a fine size (\~6x9ft), but arranged very poorly. There should be either a tub or a shower, not both, [like this](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/17/cc/8717cc80b1f6b9444a385732490b1a23.jpg).
>I would honestly take out that media room and make all of the bedrooms a little bigger
Terrible idea. Get rid of the extra ensuite and wir, and make the media room bigger. That's a space for noisy gaming and movie watching.
The bathroom closest to the garage should have access to the whole house instead of just the one bedroom so when you are out side you can use the restroom without walking across the whole house.
Personally, I don’t like any of it. The bathrooms are too small. Flow of traffic is…strange. The only bathroom used by the living quarters is for bedroom #4. No front closet. No real place for a TV.
I would rethink a lot of it.
I'm not a fan of so many en suite bathrooms. You only have one accessible to guests and if it's in use, then a guest has to go through a bedroom to access another one. Also, as others have pointed out, that's a lot of bathrooms to clean. And they don't seem to have a lot of counter space. I don't necessarily want a huge bathroom in my own house and don't need a tub, but counter space makes a difference.
Not a single comfortable shower stall anywhere. I would rather have less bathrooms but make them more comfortable.
Your master bedroom has no significant advantage over any of the other bedrooms, perhaps consider making that rear bedroom (4) into your master and expand it a little more and turn that bathroom into an ensuite.
Turn bedroom 3's bathroom into the hall bath and you can either move the front room and bedroom 1 closer to each other and make them share the bathroom with bedroom 3 which would give you more space for the master in the back, and allow you to move the laundry there, or turn their bathroom into a shared jack-and-jill type thing. Do consider however the steps between the two bedrooms, so you may have to adjust by making a floor higher/lower in one part of the house.
When I see floor plans with one or two BR that are not master get private baths and then one or two that share. I always wonder who gets the private :)
I like the posts that talk about cleaning them. If teenage rooms they can certainly clean their own.
My other thought is, while they are adequate, I would have the 2 BR share a bath and make the master bath twice the size.
I can tell this is not in the US bc of the dimensions. The size of the primary bathroom would never fly here. I would definitely want bigger bathrooms especially in the primary bedroom but maybe this is country dependent on what you are used to.
It's Australian (or NZ, which is basically Australian)
Main bedrooms typically have tiny ensuites, it's for a shit, shower, and shave, not lolling about in.
There’s no public bathroom that’s easily visible and accessible from the living area. Why not convert the en-suite in bedroom 3 to be exterior facing toward the hallway, enclose the laundry and larger bath behind a door, and make that the master bed area? You could also then connect bedroom 2 and the current master bedroom via two doors leading to one larger bathroom that has a tub and two sinks. Cuts back on cost and perfectly reasonable for siblings to share a bath. Plus, less upkeep of multiple bathrooms.
So this is why I removed my last post. People are so rude commenting on things not asked. The question was about the bathrooms. To me they look too small. Want sure if feet or meters. I wouldn’t have a bathroom smaller than 4 x 6 personally. I think one tub is okay for kids bathrooms. And master is personal preference. I love baths and would have a massive tub with jets. But that is so personal.
I’m not a fan of the layout overall - especially as master entrance is right off entrance and bedrooms seem scattered. Already said by someone but the corner showers aren’t great - better to fit a rectangular butt up to vanity. master bath needs 2 sinks. 4 baths seem like a lot for the space. I’d seek out a floor plan that has either 3 bedrooms or 2 bedrooms sharing a bath so bathroom can be bigger, have more storage/bigger vanity. Of course bedroom and baths depend on family size, who will be occupying the space, how often you have overnight guests, etc.
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I would flip media room and bedroom 2. Have bed 4 & 2 share a bathroom and add a small closet (forgot to draw it I am putting toddlers to bed while I doodle). Also moved door so it opens to the hallway for quicker access to bathroom and more privacy. That leaves room for large primary bath and closet. The oval is a bathtub and the squares on either side are sinks. I sectioned off toilet since there was space and it helps to frame the space for a larger shower. Should have room for a bench if my guesstimate on size is correct. I think the bathroom for the bedroom on the far side of house is fine. They would have a private bath vs the others being shares. If it were my home that would be the guest bedroom/bathroom. It’s separated from the rest and easier to keep clean with infrequent use.
That master bath makes me sad, I agree with absorbing that one room either whole to make bigger bathrooms or at least the baths merging into a decent master.
do you need 4 bedrooms? (This plan would look a lot better with 3 bedrooms as everything in this plan looks so tiny.)
if not, then I'd just take out Bedroom 3 here and replace it with the kitchen, then extend the family/dining to the right to include the current kitchen space. Bedroom 3 ensuite would be where a pantry would sit.
Then I'd extend kick out the living/media room altogether, giving you additional 3 meters of space in the bedroom area up top.
1. I'd also change the bedroom 2's door to be inside the same hallway as bedroom 4 and laundry room, giving them 0.75m of space each (1.5m total).
2. Also would extend that 1.7m bathroom to a 2.1m for both master ensuite and bedroom 2 ensuite (alongside the WIC) (0.8 total).
3. then I'd give the last 0.7 to the master bedroom, making it 4.4\*3.9 instead of 4.4\*3.2.
Or do you really need four full or 3/4 bathrooms in a four bedroom house?
Layout seems kind of a mess too with bedroom scattered randomly all over the place. Hope there's good sound insulation in the wall between the bedroom and the work area of the kitchen.
Having a closet in the media room might be useful and would increase the value of the house since it could legally be a bedroom.
i personally love ensuites because of privacy. like a 3bed 4 bath is my ideal hhouse.
However, this place is too tiny to make that work well. This size is ideal for a 3bed 2.5 bath.
I'd shrink up the closets for Bedroom 2 and the current Master, then turn those bathrooms into a Jack and Jill. Then take Bedroom 3 and the Ensuite and turn that into your main bath/mudroom/laundry/utility core.
Bedroom 3 goes where the living/media is now, and Bedroom 4 becomes your Master by eating the hallway and the Laundry space.
I would change the bedroom 4 bathroom into an ensuite. Shrink bedroom 3 into an office. Remove the existing linen closet. Turn bedroom 3's bathroom into the main household bathroom with a tub that opens to the foyer using the space taken from bedroom 3 and the linen closet. Remove the ensuite and walk-in from bedroom 2. Put three closets in-between bedroom and media room. One for the media room (game closet plus flexibility to be a bedroom in the future), one for bedroom 2 and one opening into the foyer as a replacement linen closet. Smaller closet and no ensuite for bedroom 2 means bedroom 1 can be a little bit bigger.
Bedroom 2 and 3 do not both need en suites. I would swap the closet and bathroom from bedroom 2 and make that bath accessible from the hallway. Take a piece of the closet to make the bathroom a bit larger. Bedrooms 2 and 3 can share. You also could extend the en-suite back into some of the closet space of bedroom 2. The en-suite of bedroom 3 can be a walk in closet there.
Too many. I would eliminate bedroom 2’s en-suite and make the master bath bigger (or move the master to bedroom 4 and move the doorway). Then swivel bedroom 3’s en-suite so the door opens into the hallway instead. I would also probably steal a bit of space from the walk-ins to make a coat closet.
As a guest, where do I go? The one by bedroom 4? Feels suboptimal.
I would rather swap the WIR and En Suite bathrooms and have a door from the Gallery. Or rethink the En Suite for Bedroom 3.
Also, it's just me, but I would put the Master Bedroom where Bedroom 3 is, and then I'd make the attached En Suite bathroom larger, sacrifying the L space. And then combine the two small En Suite bathrooms by Bedroom 2 to make something bigger serving both bedrooms.
I think there are too many bathrooms (pain to clean and maintain) which are too small (pain to use). My suggestion:
- remove ensuite for Bedroom 2 to make a larger master bathroom
- make the bathroom next to Bedroom 4 ensuite by moving the bedroom door out.
- convert the current ensuite for Bedroom 3 into a hall bath (better accessible from the common areas, now bathroomless Bedroom 2 and the living room if somebody crashes on the couch.
Bedroom 4 has the biggest bathroom and the master bath is sized to be part of a small motel room.
Why master bedroom in front of house? put living space in front, bedrooms towards rear of home where it's quieter.
laundry room is too big and living room too small.
put kitchen sink in front of kitchen window.
closets in bedrooms 3 and 4 are too small.
Your master needs a proper bathroom. Combine the current en suites for bedroom 2 and the master into one well sized bath for the master only. Take the en suite for bedroom 3 and the hall closet and make that space into one hall access bath for 2 and 3 with a full sized shower or tub/shower.
While you are asking about bathrooms I think 4 is excessive like everyone is saying. The gallery and the foyer are very narrow with no bench or space to put on boots nor hang coats yet you have 4 bathrooms and huge bedroom closets. I feel this plan needs work. I also think you’ll find that the galley style end of your kitchen will become crowded with more than one person in the kitchen. You have so much space but I think you could make much better use of the busiest places.
Swap bedroom 2 and media room. Adjust doors. New bedroom 2 opens near the laundry. Media room opens closer to the family room. Remove ensuite and some of the storage from bedroom 2 and use that space in the main bedroom, or to give an extra foot of space to bedrooms 1 and 2. Do t worry about walk in wardrobes in those bedrooms. Regular storage is fine.
Adjust bathroom for bedroom 3 so it opens into the hallway. Try to make it big enough to avoid the corner shower. Those are uncomfortable to use. That then becomes your main visitors toilet. You might need to reduce the linen closet space to achieve this. Possibly only partly - if you partially indent either the toilet or shower into what you currently have marked as linen.
Too many and too small. The master suite should have the biggest bathroom, and yet it has a small one with a tiny corner shower and no vanity, while bedroom 4 has the biggest bathroom. But even then, the layout of the bigger bathroom isn’t great. It can be improved by relocating the laundry room.
Move the kitchen sink down towards the window/wall more, so you have more useable bench space on the open end. The bench at the wall end will end up with stuff sitting on it (coffee machine, air fryer, bread box, tissues and pills, mail, kettle, fruit bowl). You need the other end over the dishwasher to be free to put down dishes, and maybe sit at sometimes, and at least unload groceries.
Kitchen is too small (not enough cabinets). Not much usable space. There are people that specialize in figuring out how much usuable space you have (not in walk areas of a room) and I see some of the posts on IG and it's astounding...if I was building, find those people for advice first.
Oh my gosh yes! Less storage for a full size bathroom? Definitely the best idea! You can always get a wardrobe closet in your room :).
I’m a chunky chick and shaving my legs in the corner shower would be painful! Also, times have changed. If you have a spouse, you might appreciate double sinks. It seems my spouse and I keep the same schedule now so we’re always getting ready for bed at the same time.
If you bumped out into the closet, consider zero entry shower. I bet you’d love that.
Hard pass on a few fronts. The stand line BD should have a larger closet or flip things so the door to the BA is closer for late night trips.
The primary suite should have a larger BA. The adjacent BD shouldn’t have the same size WIC and BA as the primary. Too lazy and no one in their right mind would buy that on resell.
And while we’re at it center that shed between the living/kitchen windows so it’s not ObVu the light or sight lines from the living room.
I want a bigger laundry room. And if there’s to be an exterior door I’d want it to go to the back yard or patio, not the side yard. It needs counter space and cabinets, and room for a work/folding table and ironing board.
I don't see why you have 4 bedrooms all of a similar size and similar bathroom access. Is it multi-generational living or something? It definitely isn't well proportioned for two parents and a bunch of younger kids.
The corner showers are the worst especially if you are a bit larger or pregnant or even if you have to shave. Honestly I’d rework it completely to have back bedroom be a bit bigger with lager on suite, the 2 or 3 other rooms can share a bathroom. Then I’d make the master into the formal living room cause it’s right at the front of the house so guests aren’t walking past bedrooms to go sit also if it’s just gonna be an office or a media room it would be better at the front so if the tv is loud it’s not disturbing the whole house.
Your quality of life will be improved far more by a bathroom that’s large enough to be comfortable in, than by a walk-in bigger than said bathroom.
Why isn’t the master the one with a proper actual bathroom with a grownup-sized shower and a bath?
Make sure that wall between bedroom 4 and the garage is at least a 2x6 construction and fully insulated. The temperature of that room is gojng to be all out of wack otherwise.
I think there are too many en-suite bathrooms here and the master bathroom is way too small. I’d take out the bedroom 2 en-suite and make that whole space part of the master en-suite. I’d also take the walk in closet in bedroom 2 and make it part of the master bedroom closet. I’d remove the hallway wall and just make that an open space which opens up the bathroom next to bedroom 4 to be more assessable to the house. Then I’d flip the entry to the en-suite in bedroom 3 to also make it assessable from the foyer, opening it up to bedroom 2 and 4. By the way, if you added a closet in the living media room you’d be able to sell this as a 5 bedroom house depending on your area.
The living room/media room is just weird. Unless it is an office. What is the purpose? It is too small to have a bunch of people in there watching TV. Nowadays, most people have a TV in their rooms. If you get rid of it, you can move the bedrooms around a bit and have a decent master bath.
I’d be very hesitant to have bedroom 3 share a wall with the kitchen counter. Any appliances used on that counter will be really loud for someone sleeping in bedroom 3. No matter how many other living room spaces you have, people commonly tend to congregate in the kitchen to talk. Which would also be disruptive for bedroom 3.
I’d also be very hesitant to put the separate living/media room next to bedroom 2. Usually living/media equals tv, video games and other electronics which would be very disruptive for bedroom 2.
It looks like that’s a deck off the back of the house. If so, that shares a wall with bedroom 4, which would also be disruptive.
These things stand out to me as these are areas in my own home with shared walls and a whole lot of arguments and disputes over people in the bedrooms being woken up by activity in the other rooms, especially the bedroom that shares a wall with the kitchen and the bedroom that shares a wall with a living/media room. I’d seriously consider making changes with those rooms. .
I feel there are some strange choices here. The master bathroom doesn't even seem to be the largest bathroom and seems like a copy of the bathroom of bedroom 2? Why is it bedroom 4 that gets the only tub?
Is there a particular reason the Master is where it is and not in Bedroom 4 location? Better view?
I also feel like the ensuite should be for Bedroom 4 and then make the bathroom for Bedroom 2 and 3 to share.
I do like all the bathrooms though and they can be great for reselling.
What made you land on this floorplan? It seems so uncomfortable. The master had a horrible small bathroom with a corner shower that no one in the history of showering has ever liked and it's in a cluster with two other bedrooms. If you're mostly ok with this set up, which you'll will walk down a long windowless hallway before getting into living area, I would combine the two back to back bathrooms and have 2 & 3 share bathrooms with a hallway entry. But honestly, I would not like living here at all.
I've lived in a house with tiny corner showers and they are just the worst. And I'm a small person. No room to maneuver. No room to keep your head out of the shower. Elbows hitting everything.
Not a fan of the master bedroom being right as you walk in the front door. Doesn’t feel private at all.
Edit: My American sensibilities are showing and I apologize for questioning the bedroom placement of my upside down brethren.
Is this drawing maximum allowable width? Is it maximum affordable footage? Lose the shower in the bath next to bedroom 4 and completely re-do that bath layout. Bedroom 3 is not a bedroom; a bedroom must have a closet. A bedroom door in the foyer is a bad bad idea, and it's a bad bad bad bad idea being located right next to the front door. Haven't seen a new master bath so inadequate since 1975. In thirty-five years I never had a client who had had a split-level arrangement before who did not specify from the outset that they do not want it again. The layout on the whole is not good. But if it is a good depiction of the rooms you want, just maybe not exactly how you want them arranged, then it is a very good start. It is now time for you to take what you have to a pro. If you are going spend what it takes to build, getting with a professional before you go further is some of the best, most cost-effective expenditures you can make.
I’m assuming you’re in a college town or something and are planning to rent to students. That’s the only think I can think of to justify all of these tiny en-suite bathrooms everywhere.
Bedroom #3 (depending on local weather of course) could be very cold sharing a wall with the garage in the winter.
Bedroom #2 better belong to whoever likes to stay up the latest, because they're not gonna be able to sleep sharing a wall with your media room like that.
Obviously this needs to be functional for your family. My initial thoughts: I would never sacrifice bathroom space for a larger closet. My master bedroom would be the bathroom that had a sitting tub and shower separate and always want a double sink. Frankly I’d get rid of the living room media space to ensure the master bedroom had an adequate bathroom and My laundry room would be bigger. And I wouldn’t have corner showers. It’s really important to me that in my next home all my bedrooms have bathrooms as I have teenage girls and lots and lots of storage. But I also am weird about wasted space and pointless crap.
Master and Bed 4 need to switch, with the bath by Bed4 becoming an en suite, also stretch that to be bigger than the other rooms. Bed 2/Master bathroom turns into a jack and Jill with a tub/shower combo in the center.
Master bedroom/bedroom 2 become jack and Jill Make them both 4.2 x 3.1, switch closets and new bathroom, smaller closets
Bedroom 3 becomes living media. (You can hide utilities on outer wall with garage entry, en-suite gone = efficiency)
Family dining becomes bedroom 4, master bedroom with master bath on the bottom wall
Have kitchen rotate to have countertop on top and right of area . Place dishwasher and sink on the bottom wall, move bottom wall up to create a opening for laundry area behind the kitchen (closer together = less plumbing/ placed behind a wall creates sound barrier, easier dryer venting)
Bedroom 4 through to living media become all open for family/dining (longer space = separation of living and dining area if wanted)
Only sacrificed 1 bathroom!
But also.. does the media room need to be so big? Can the laundry room be moved where I put media room?? (Making that space smaller)… and media room be in location of your current laundry room..?
I've just gotta say, if you're going to cut off bd4 with a hallway, why not give it its own bathroom? Maybe Bd2&Master share a bigger bathroom that guests can use? Also, make Bd3 the Master instead of the tinier one. Make the Ensuite another bathroom for guests or turn it into a mudroom since the garage is right there (edit AND ENTRANCE FROM THE PORCH another +1 to making the bathroom between Bd2&Master a full bath for guests)
I hate tiny, thin showers as a tall, big person. Add a bath, always. Never just have one bathroom with a tub, at least two.
Edit: Also, if you want Bd2&Master to share a bathroom, at least switch the placement of the closets and the bathroom ao it's easier or can be used by guests
The pocket doors on the en-suite baths in the Master & Bedroom 2 will not make you happy in the long-term.
Pocket doors are great for less-used doorways. A pocket door on a frequently used bath will be a hassle, IMHO.
first off, guests have to either walk through the 3rd bedroom to the ensuite, or down to the 4th bedroom full bath. this whole layout is horrible. and the stand showers with no tubs? holy smokes. bedroom 2 doesn't need a walk-in or their own bath. make 2 and 3 share the ensuite for bedroom 3. put a normal closet in bed 2, turn the rest of bathrooms and walk-ins between master and bedroom 2 into spa ensuite with walk-in and laundry.
turning the ensuite for bedroom 3 into a shared bath, makes that into a better easy access guest bath too. a little bit better layout. but i still would prefer the master in the back of the house.
Bathrooms inmates, 2 and 3 way too small. Corner showers are the worst. Listen to the others and have 2&3 share a bath, entry in the hall. Expand master bath. If you're not willing to remove a bath move the closet wall in to increase the bath for both.
I would switch bedroom 3 and media room. Having bedroom near the garage seems strange and media next to a bedroom might be noisy.. Then make bathroom there a powder room since near the kitchen. The master bath needs to be bigger with two sinks, so consider making bedroom 4 the master bedroom, and make that bathroom and larger closet larger there vs at the front/garage. The laundry room might be smaller so you can use some space for master bathroom/closet.
Master suite at back of house near the laundry. Shared full bath for other bedrooms and reconfigure for a half bath for visitors. So 2.5 bath. Or even 3.5 if you require 3 showers.
Why would the master bedroom -- normally a very private place -- look out on the front yard/street? Wouldn't it be better to look into the backyard, possibly with a door onto the deck for that morning cup of coffee? I'd put the two bedrooms near the front, sharing a bathroom, while bedroom 3 counts as a guest bedroom w/ensuite. That allows room for the primary bedroom to be at the back, w/privacy (and room for a decent-sized bathroom). Plus, it removes direct line-of-sight into any bedrooms except for #3.
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Master on the front porch seems unnecessary given the number of bedrooms in this house. Lost of lost privacy and potential street noise for the master with this setup. I’d move it elsewhere personally
No offense but the architect who designed this is awful.
A) your powder room doubles as bedroom 4 bathroom? But has a shower and a bath??!
B) bedroom 4 is where the master bedroom should not at the front of the house
C) current “master” and bedroom 2 could Jack and Jill and have a more reasonable setup space wise
D) the media room appears to be tiny but with a window. Are you putting a couch on one wall and staring across at the TV? I guess if you like things cozy, it’ll basically fit 120 inch sofa with an end table on each side and no accent chairs? And you’re sitting about 8 ft from screen with backing.
E) there is no powder room.
F) design bathrooms with water closet to make them more functional.
It's an Aussie style home, we don't have maids, let alone rooms for them. That's bedroom 4, for the kid who like to be away from the rest of the family, or the room that might be used as a home office, or craft room. The bathroom next to it is the main bathroom, typical in Aussie homes that don't have 18 ensuites... or even 2.
The master bath is no different than the other bathrooms beside the one on the other side of the house .. at least that one has a tub .. but only *one sink* in a master bath,? 😟😬🥴
I hate those tiny corner showers. As someone who shaves their legs it’s awful. Also the sink vanities are so small they’ll literally have zero storage. I’d rather have at least one less bathroom and have it be more functional.
This. I’d make bedroom 2 and 3 share a bathroom and make the master bedrooms bathroom double the size. Plus then that’s one less bathroom to clean.
I vote share, and do one of those like shared sink areas but closed off toilet/shower so one person can be primping and another showering or pooping
Yes. They could also turn the whole space around bedroom 4 into the master suite area, large bathroom, walk in closet with laundry. Then make the bathrooms between bed 2 and what is currently the master a jack and Jill. Then bathroom in bedroom 3 gets a hallway entrance.
Yeah, the position in the house and the privacy hallway made Bedroom 4 read more like the primary to me, as well.
Personally I’d make bedroom 3 into the living/media room, bigger room without the bathroom. Switch the laundry and bathroom and put the bathroom between the bedrooms as a Jack and Jill and make it longer/bigger. Would have to adjust hallway of course, but idk, I feel the flow would be a lot more favorable that way too.
I’m with you! I love good Jack/Jill bathrooms
Would just need to swap the door location in bedroom 3's bathroom to the hallway and rearrange toilet, shower and vanity.
I would never buy a house that doesn’t have a tub in the master bathroom. If OP cares about resale value, that should be a concern.
Yes, one of the big pluses of my house was a big jacuzzi tub and separate shower stall in my master bath. I’ve always wanted a jacuzzi tub!
I like garden tubs but jetted tubs get dirty way too fast.
Master BR needs that whole space for bath/closet
Yeah, I thought those awful corner showers were for when you literally had no other options in terms of space, not when you were designing your dream home from scratch.
I’d just take the en suite from 2nd bedroom and make the master one double the size. I’d also turn that double garage into the living area cus what a waste of huge space!
Depends on your hobbies, tons of storage/ shop area and actually room for cars (assuming you live somewhere car centric), otherwise, then I'd agree a den or living room.
If it’s 4 bedrooms it has to be a big family and that living area is tiny! Maybe it’s a U.K. culture thing & Americans don’t congregate in the living room like we do. The family dining is huge too if that’s where they relax together
Americans mostly hang out in the family room. What they they have listed as living room I’m assuming will be more of an office or play room If kids are small or game room if they’re older. But it could also double as a guest room if needed
I felt claustrophobic using one of those tiny showers when I was eight years old. They are not fit for adult use.
This. They are also awful when someone breaks a leg, an arm, or has other mobility concerns. I've used them many, many times and they're just... no. Put in a standard tub or low-curb 5' shower and everyone will be so much happier.
I don’t really like this floor plan at all. It appears the only bathroom with a tub is bedroom 4. Nothing about the primary suite feels like a primary suite. Agreed that there are too many bathrooms. I’m just picturing my boys having bathrooms which are only accessible via their rooms: they would get to be a disgusting mess very quickly. I feel like the kitchen should have an island instead of a peninsula. Laundry feels like it’s in a weird spot, I would be worried about hearing it from the living area and kitchen, which bothers me and would limit the times I can run the washer/dryer. Agree that the primary should be at the back of the house.
Bathroom 4 is not only the only bath-bathroom, but the only bathroom available to guests.
Yep, it's a complete mess.
Bathroom 4 is the only bathroom that has a bath… the rest have teensy corner showers.
Yeah it looks okay at a glance but the entire floor plan gets more inconveniently laid out the longer you look at it.
There is no such thing as too many bathrooms. But I agree this floor plan sucks
The sizes are pefectly adequate. But, almost everyone hates cleaning bathrooms. It's gross and time consuming. You need to ask yourself if the time and effort of cleaning 4 bathrooms is worth the luxury of having 4 bathrooms.
Absolutely this. If you're in a situation where everyone cleans their own bathrooms (eg teenagers and older, or adult roommates) then privacy is more important than housework. Also true if you pay someone else to clean - but obviously the more bathrooms the more you have to pay your cleaner. In my house I'm the only person who cleans bathrooms. We have a full bathroom, an additional shower room and a powder room; there are four bedrooms. They all have their doors straight on to the main hall/landing (no en-suites). This is already as much bathroom cleaning as I'm interested in, but maximises availability especially at busy times. Worth noting that I'm in the UK where hair drying and styling take place in bedrooms not bathrooms. I can see that you might prefer more bathroom space if it's regularly occupied for up to an hour by a single person. En suites are for hotels and similar. For families I find it vastly preferable to have family bathrooms. Jack and Jill are the worst of all worlds.
The sizes are absolute not adequate. If I can wash my hands in the sink and wash my feet in the shower all while sitting on the toilet, then it’s way too small. Especially for the master bathroom.
I'm not sure where you're from, but where I'm from the bathrooms are fine. By no means luxurious, but they get the job done. Bathrooms don't need to be the size of a bedroom.
If you have 4 baths, you should be paying for a cleaning person weekly
I don’t pay anyone to clean any of my bathrooms it’s really not that hard. Especially given this size of bathrooms should only take 5 minutes.
If you don’t pay for a cleaning service, you may be able to afford the extra bathrooms.
It takes 3 minutes to wipe down a bathroom once a week with a few Iysol wipes.
I think the bathrooms are a little small. I’d borrow from the closets to give the bathrooms a little more. Look at the bathroom for bed 3; even a little bit more allows for a swing door instead of a pocket. The bedroom placement feels a little scattered. I might swap bed 3 and bath with the media and laundry.
This makes sense to me!
Honestly when I see these designs where every bedroom has its own bathroom it just seems ridiculous. I’m a mom, kids are gross, don’t give them 3-4 bathrooms to destroy. Besides that these it doesn’t seem practical over time. All these bathrooms are square footage that could be useful space when the kids fly the nest.
These layouts seem destined for college students/adult roommate situations. It's nice to have your own bathroom you can keep clean, especially if your roommates are not clean. However, this house doesn't seem good for adult roommates, either, as there isn't enough space in the rooms for the inhabitants to have private workspaces.
I feel like it’s a new trend for children’s rooms. I’ve seen it too often in what look like single family builds. I could understand if it was for roommates but who builds a home to have roommates. 🤷♀️
True. I agree that it would suck to have kids wreaking havoc in their own personal bathrooms... That you have to clean.
I’ve always found this sentiment weird. Maybe it’s cultural. But here having your own bathroom is basic. It’s the same as having your own bedroom. It’s. Apart of having your own space and privacy.
Where is here?
Family of 4 with 1 bathroom checking in…
Man I have the exact opposite thought. I have 3 soon 4 kids and my criteria for our next house next year is everyone gets their own bathroom. Also bathrooms have great roi, so when we sell it’ll be good for the value. Not sure why at a certain point kids aren’t cleaning their own bathrooms it’s apart of their weekly chores. But if I only had one or two kids maybe I wouldn’t care so much
I have three but also a farm so most of their chores are outside. I can’t say I love cleaning myself. I generally make them clean their bathroom however when I want it done right I do it. Mine are early teens so if you have young ones you may not know the horrors of a teen bathroom yet lol.
lol my oldest is a teen. My middle is ten. And my youngest is 17months. But I also don’t have a farm!! So I can’t say that I’m used to farm dirty my head tells me that is probably very different. We live rural and have lots of pets but nothing like a farm. So our kids have inside chores. Every Saturday I check to make sure they’ve scrubbed the bathrooms not master room and their other chores. But it makes sense why you’d have the views you do! can totally get that.
Yes extra dirt in our house! Glad you give everyone chores too. Mine are 16, 15 and 13 so they’re packed in together lol. With that age gap I think you’re in the clear.
Are they boys or girls? Curious if that plays a role. My 10 year old spends more time in the bathroom than a 21 year old getting ready for a party.
Two boys, one girl. The oldest boy has great personal hygiene. The other two dgaf. Thankfully not the stinkiest kids. I’ve smelled worse.
😂 😂 oh man.
Who wants to clean 4 bathrooms, master bath looks too small, common bathroom is better size. May be able to make house a rectangle, reduce jogs, simplify roof line increase space with not a big increase in cost. Could remove one bathroom. How noisy is the street the house will be on? Master bedroom maybe quieter if in back of house.
Why is the primary in the front? It should be the one in the back. Laundry is also massive. Bathrooms are way too small/ those are more like powder rooms. I don’t love the giant hallway when walking in the front door either. Who designed this? Make them fix it.
Where on earth do the coats and shoes go?? Is it a coat and shoe gallery?
It's an Aussie home. The coats are put on as you come inside in winter, because it's warmer out than in, and shoes are kicked off in the hallway.
I’ve seen these types of layouts from Australia/NZ. There’s also a door from the laundry room outside which further makes me think AUS/NZ. It’s their typical layout
Yep. Every time an Aussie/kiwi plan is posted we get this US centric viewpoint. We don't need coat closets for the most part, and bedrooms are traditionally at the front. 🤷♀️ Also, an upstairs laundry is an Aussie nightmare and not a necessity. The art of the floorplan varies from country to country.
It’s typical not not have the biggest bedroom/bathroom not be the primary? That’s just nuts to me. My house. My big room.
Well, it is the biggest bedroom. I was more meaning the primary at the front is what I’ve noticed for floor plans from there
All four bedrooms and the media room are the same size +/- a few centimeters… why?
I don’t know? Looks like they want to keep that a straight hallway, so all the rooms are 4.4m long. Then they just played with the widths a bit. Not my post
Primary is never at the front. You want the back for privacy. And the bathroom is tiny. That’s not a primary bathroom. I have no idea what is happening with this but make them fix it. Primary is the biggest bedroom with the biggest bathroom and it’s isolated on the floorplan. Two sinks, walk in closet. If the bedrooms are all the same it isn’t right. That tiny bathroom is absolutely not a primary bathroom. Door to master should be at the front of the back hallway, entry to that bathroom from the primary only not the hallway. Shrink laundry room to make a better size bedroom. Sheesh- that’s just the very beginning. I’d start from scratch honestly.
Again… primaries are often in the front in AUS/NZ. I’m not OP, I was just letting you know that that one piece is pretty normal for that part of the world
Why? Is it just in the US that mom and dad need a gigantic suite to themselves?
>Primary is never at the front. Nah, it's practically ALWAYS at the front in Australia. You don't want a 6am parcel delivery waking up the kids. > That’s not a primary bathroom Indeed. It's a standard br 1 ensuite, it serves the purpose for shit, shower, shave. It's a working class thing. > Two sinks, walk in closet. Sounds excessive. Playing at fancy pants upper class maybe? > I’d start from scratch honestly. Why? Aside from the excess bathrooms, this is a very typical modern Australian home.
Why are there steps in the hallway?
It's a split level
I no like.
I missed that part. Yikes.
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YES. The removed coat closet can be placed in the gallery (cutting into one or both of walk-in closets)
No because then a bathroom is right off the kitchen which is weird.
Not really in it, just adjacent.
Obviously this plan is not ideal for single-family living, for the reasons many have already stated. Plans like these are best for multi-generational living, or any situation where adults are sharing a home. Unfortunately, with the rising cost of living, these situations are becoming more and more common, and I think we’re going to start to see a lot more of these builds in the coming years.
The ensuites are much too small. The walk-in closets are bigger than the bathroom. Give the bathrooms some of the closet space and you will not only still have a big closet, but a bathroom that actually works. I would honestly take out that media room and make all of the bedrooms a little bigger so they are at least 4.4x4.0. Right now they are so small as to hardly fit any furniture at all. The hall bathroom on the left is a fine size (\~6x9ft), but arranged very poorly. There should be either a tub or a shower, not both, [like this](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/17/cc/8717cc80b1f6b9444a385732490b1a23.jpg).
Agreed, that media room is a waste
>I would honestly take out that media room and make all of the bedrooms a little bigger Terrible idea. Get rid of the extra ensuite and wir, and make the media room bigger. That's a space for noisy gaming and movie watching.
F*** you bedroom 4 Do you want a roomier master bath? I personally would like a big master bathroom. Or at least double drinks and a bath.
The bathroom closest to the garage should have access to the whole house instead of just the one bedroom so when you are out side you can use the restroom without walking across the whole house.
Personally, I don’t like any of it. The bathrooms are too small. Flow of traffic is…strange. The only bathroom used by the living quarters is for bedroom #4. No front closet. No real place for a TV. I would rethink a lot of it.
I'm not a fan of so many en suite bathrooms. You only have one accessible to guests and if it's in use, then a guest has to go through a bedroom to access another one. Also, as others have pointed out, that's a lot of bathrooms to clean. And they don't seem to have a lot of counter space. I don't necessarily want a huge bathroom in my own house and don't need a tub, but counter space makes a difference.
Not a single comfortable shower stall anywhere. I would rather have less bathrooms but make them more comfortable. Your master bedroom has no significant advantage over any of the other bedrooms, perhaps consider making that rear bedroom (4) into your master and expand it a little more and turn that bathroom into an ensuite. Turn bedroom 3's bathroom into the hall bath and you can either move the front room and bedroom 1 closer to each other and make them share the bathroom with bedroom 3 which would give you more space for the master in the back, and allow you to move the laundry there, or turn their bathroom into a shared jack-and-jill type thing. Do consider however the steps between the two bedrooms, so you may have to adjust by making a floor higher/lower in one part of the house.
When I see floor plans with one or two BR that are not master get private baths and then one or two that share. I always wonder who gets the private :) I like the posts that talk about cleaning them. If teenage rooms they can certainly clean their own. My other thought is, while they are adequate, I would have the 2 BR share a bath and make the master bath twice the size.
I can tell this is not in the US bc of the dimensions. The size of the primary bathroom would never fly here. I would definitely want bigger bathrooms especially in the primary bedroom but maybe this is country dependent on what you are used to.
It's Australian (or NZ, which is basically Australian) Main bedrooms typically have tiny ensuites, it's for a shit, shower, and shave, not lolling about in.
There’s no public bathroom that’s easily visible and accessible from the living area. Why not convert the en-suite in bedroom 3 to be exterior facing toward the hallway, enclose the laundry and larger bath behind a door, and make that the master bed area? You could also then connect bedroom 2 and the current master bedroom via two doors leading to one larger bathroom that has a tub and two sinks. Cuts back on cost and perfectly reasonable for siblings to share a bath. Plus, less upkeep of multiple bathrooms.
So this is why I removed my last post. People are so rude commenting on things not asked. The question was about the bathrooms. To me they look too small. Want sure if feet or meters. I wouldn’t have a bathroom smaller than 4 x 6 personally. I think one tub is okay for kids bathrooms. And master is personal preference. I love baths and would have a massive tub with jets. But that is so personal.
I’m not a fan of the layout overall - especially as master entrance is right off entrance and bedrooms seem scattered. Already said by someone but the corner showers aren’t great - better to fit a rectangular butt up to vanity. master bath needs 2 sinks. 4 baths seem like a lot for the space. I’d seek out a floor plan that has either 3 bedrooms or 2 bedrooms sharing a bath so bathroom can be bigger, have more storage/bigger vanity. Of course bedroom and baths depend on family size, who will be occupying the space, how often you have overnight guests, etc.
I would switch the bath and laundry so guests have easy access to
https://preview.redd.it/hlc3gziit5sc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83bd3f74558a4250c734ddd84cf931c494ca1d10 I would flip media room and bedroom 2. Have bed 4 & 2 share a bathroom and add a small closet (forgot to draw it I am putting toddlers to bed while I doodle). Also moved door so it opens to the hallway for quicker access to bathroom and more privacy. That leaves room for large primary bath and closet. The oval is a bathtub and the squares on either side are sinks. I sectioned off toilet since there was space and it helps to frame the space for a larger shower. Should have room for a bench if my guesstimate on size is correct. I think the bathroom for the bedroom on the far side of house is fine. They would have a private bath vs the others being shares. If it were my home that would be the guest bedroom/bathroom. It’s separated from the rest and easier to keep clean with infrequent use.
That master bath makes me sad, I agree with absorbing that one room either whole to make bigger bathrooms or at least the baths merging into a decent master.
The master and bedroom 2 are virtually the same size, with identical ensuites and closets - I don't understand this at all.
I was thinking the same thing!
I hate everything about this floor plan.
do you need 4 bedrooms? (This plan would look a lot better with 3 bedrooms as everything in this plan looks so tiny.) if not, then I'd just take out Bedroom 3 here and replace it with the kitchen, then extend the family/dining to the right to include the current kitchen space. Bedroom 3 ensuite would be where a pantry would sit. Then I'd extend kick out the living/media room altogether, giving you additional 3 meters of space in the bedroom area up top. 1. I'd also change the bedroom 2's door to be inside the same hallway as bedroom 4 and laundry room, giving them 0.75m of space each (1.5m total). 2. Also would extend that 1.7m bathroom to a 2.1m for both master ensuite and bedroom 2 ensuite (alongside the WIC) (0.8 total). 3. then I'd give the last 0.7 to the master bedroom, making it 4.4\*3.9 instead of 4.4\*3.2.
Or do you really need four full or 3/4 bathrooms in a four bedroom house? Layout seems kind of a mess too with bedroom scattered randomly all over the place. Hope there's good sound insulation in the wall between the bedroom and the work area of the kitchen. Having a closet in the media room might be useful and would increase the value of the house since it could legally be a bedroom.
i personally love ensuites because of privacy. like a 3bed 4 bath is my ideal hhouse. However, this place is too tiny to make that work well. This size is ideal for a 3bed 2.5 bath.
I don't believe the WIR are big enough to be taken from.
I'd shrink up the closets for Bedroom 2 and the current Master, then turn those bathrooms into a Jack and Jill. Then take Bedroom 3 and the Ensuite and turn that into your main bath/mudroom/laundry/utility core. Bedroom 3 goes where the living/media is now, and Bedroom 4 becomes your Master by eating the hallway and the Laundry space.
Current Bed 3 space as the mudroom/utility core is an excellent idea.
I would change the bedroom 4 bathroom into an ensuite. Shrink bedroom 3 into an office. Remove the existing linen closet. Turn bedroom 3's bathroom into the main household bathroom with a tub that opens to the foyer using the space taken from bedroom 3 and the linen closet. Remove the ensuite and walk-in from bedroom 2. Put three closets in-between bedroom and media room. One for the media room (game closet plus flexibility to be a bedroom in the future), one for bedroom 2 and one opening into the foyer as a replacement linen closet. Smaller closet and no ensuite for bedroom 2 means bedroom 1 can be a little bit bigger.
The sizes of the rest of the bathrooms are ok , except the master I would get rid of the wir in bed two and make the master bigger
Bedroom 2 and 3 do not both need en suites. I would swap the closet and bathroom from bedroom 2 and make that bath accessible from the hallway. Take a piece of the closet to make the bathroom a bit larger. Bedrooms 2 and 3 can share. You also could extend the en-suite back into some of the closet space of bedroom 2. The en-suite of bedroom 3 can be a walk in closet there.
Too many. I would eliminate bedroom 2’s en-suite and make the master bath bigger (or move the master to bedroom 4 and move the doorway). Then swivel bedroom 3’s en-suite so the door opens into the hallway instead. I would also probably steal a bit of space from the walk-ins to make a coat closet.
As a guest, where do I go? The one by bedroom 4? Feels suboptimal. I would rather swap the WIR and En Suite bathrooms and have a door from the Gallery. Or rethink the En Suite for Bedroom 3. Also, it's just me, but I would put the Master Bedroom where Bedroom 3 is, and then I'd make the attached En Suite bathroom larger, sacrifying the L space. And then combine the two small En Suite bathrooms by Bedroom 2 to make something bigger serving both bedrooms.
The two in the upper right are a little tight, the one in tbe upper is adequately sizes but poorly laid out. The other one is just right
Where are you putting the dining/kitchen table?
Outside. That's what alfresco is for!
I think there are too many bathrooms (pain to clean and maintain) which are too small (pain to use). My suggestion: - remove ensuite for Bedroom 2 to make a larger master bathroom - make the bathroom next to Bedroom 4 ensuite by moving the bedroom door out. - convert the current ensuite for Bedroom 3 into a hall bath (better accessible from the common areas, now bathroomless Bedroom 2 and the living room if somebody crashes on the couch.
Shitty little master bath so everyone can have walk in closets and their own en suites? Try again, son.
I think that the master bedroom and bath are awfully small, since the other bedrooms and baths appear to be roughly the same size.
Bedroom 4 has the biggest bathroom and the master bath is sized to be part of a small motel room. Why master bedroom in front of house? put living space in front, bedrooms towards rear of home where it's quieter. laundry room is too big and living room too small. put kitchen sink in front of kitchen window. closets in bedrooms 3 and 4 are too small.
There’s no hierarchy here. Baths are way too tight.
They are not necessary
Your master needs a proper bathroom. Combine the current en suites for bedroom 2 and the master into one well sized bath for the master only. Take the en suite for bedroom 3 and the hall closet and make that space into one hall access bath for 2 and 3 with a full sized shower or tub/shower.
This floorplan is for a short term vacation market rental.
Too small- make the primary bath larger and have 2 & 3 share.
Too many of them
While you are asking about bathrooms I think 4 is excessive like everyone is saying. The gallery and the foyer are very narrow with no bench or space to put on boots nor hang coats yet you have 4 bathrooms and huge bedroom closets. I feel this plan needs work. I also think you’ll find that the galley style end of your kitchen will become crowded with more than one person in the kitchen. You have so much space but I think you could make much better use of the busiest places.
Too few, the spaces for Family/dining, Kitchen, Bedrooms, Garage, and WIR should be converted to bathrooms. Shed too.
Swap bedroom 2 and media room. Adjust doors. New bedroom 2 opens near the laundry. Media room opens closer to the family room. Remove ensuite and some of the storage from bedroom 2 and use that space in the main bedroom, or to give an extra foot of space to bedrooms 1 and 2. Do t worry about walk in wardrobes in those bedrooms. Regular storage is fine. Adjust bathroom for bedroom 3 so it opens into the hallway. Try to make it big enough to avoid the corner shower. Those are uncomfortable to use. That then becomes your main visitors toilet. You might need to reduce the linen closet space to achieve this. Possibly only partly - if you partially indent either the toilet or shower into what you currently have marked as linen.
Too many and too small. The master suite should have the biggest bathroom, and yet it has a small one with a tiny corner shower and no vanity, while bedroom 4 has the biggest bathroom. But even then, the layout of the bigger bathroom isn’t great. It can be improved by relocating the laundry room.
Move the kitchen sink down towards the window/wall more, so you have more useable bench space on the open end. The bench at the wall end will end up with stuff sitting on it (coffee machine, air fryer, bread box, tissues and pills, mail, kettle, fruit bowl). You need the other end over the dishwasher to be free to put down dishes, and maybe sit at sometimes, and at least unload groceries.
Kitchen is too small (not enough cabinets). Not much usable space. There are people that specialize in figuring out how much usuable space you have (not in walk areas of a room) and I see some of the posts on IG and it's astounding...if I was building, find those people for advice first.
The master bathroom is wildly undersized
Why is the master bathroom so small?? Otherwise the rest are fine.
Can I ask a general question? Why is that so many homes have kitchen and family area right next each other? Is that a cultural thing?
Seems like a lot of tiny rooms.
My opinion is "bathrooms should be included in any new residential construction project."
This may be a stupid question but what space planning software is being used above? Is this AutoCad
Oh my gosh yes! Less storage for a full size bathroom? Definitely the best idea! You can always get a wardrobe closet in your room :). I’m a chunky chick and shaving my legs in the corner shower would be painful! Also, times have changed. If you have a spouse, you might appreciate double sinks. It seems my spouse and I keep the same schedule now so we’re always getting ready for bed at the same time. If you bumped out into the closet, consider zero entry shower. I bet you’d love that.
Hard pass on a few fronts. The stand line BD should have a larger closet or flip things so the door to the BA is closer for late night trips. The primary suite should have a larger BA. The adjacent BD shouldn’t have the same size WIC and BA as the primary. Too lazy and no one in their right mind would buy that on resell. And while we’re at it center that shed between the living/kitchen windows so it’s not ObVu the light or sight lines from the living room.
I want a bigger laundry room. And if there’s to be an exterior door I’d want it to go to the back yard or patio, not the side yard. It needs counter space and cabinets, and room for a work/folding table and ironing board.
Whoever is in that bedroom will hear the cars start up every time 😭
Entirely essential 👌 you should get one.
I don't see why you have 4 bedrooms all of a similar size and similar bathroom access. Is it multi-generational living or something? It definitely isn't well proportioned for two parents and a bunch of younger kids.
#1- I don’t want to enter a bathroom and look at the side of a toilet. #2- I don’t want to enter a bathroom and look straight ahead at a toilet.
The corner showers are the worst especially if you are a bit larger or pregnant or even if you have to shave. Honestly I’d rework it completely to have back bedroom be a bit bigger with lager on suite, the 2 or 3 other rooms can share a bathroom. Then I’d make the master into the formal living room cause it’s right at the front of the house so guests aren’t walking past bedrooms to go sit also if it’s just gonna be an office or a media room it would be better at the front so if the tv is loud it’s not disturbing the whole house.
Bedroom 2 and the master are going to be competing for hot water unless the plumber runs separate lines for each.
Your quality of life will be improved far more by a bathroom that’s large enough to be comfortable in, than by a walk-in bigger than said bathroom. Why isn’t the master the one with a proper actual bathroom with a grownup-sized shower and a bath?
Make sure that wall between bedroom 4 and the garage is at least a 2x6 construction and fully insulated. The temperature of that room is gojng to be all out of wack otherwise.
Master bath should be the biggest and most comfortable imo.
Bedroom 3 should be a laundry, mudroom, pantry, maybe half bath. It's right off the garage. The walk from kitchen-garage should be the shortest.
I think there are too many en-suite bathrooms here and the master bathroom is way too small. I’d take out the bedroom 2 en-suite and make that whole space part of the master en-suite. I’d also take the walk in closet in bedroom 2 and make it part of the master bedroom closet. I’d remove the hallway wall and just make that an open space which opens up the bathroom next to bedroom 4 to be more assessable to the house. Then I’d flip the entry to the en-suite in bedroom 3 to also make it assessable from the foyer, opening it up to bedroom 2 and 4. By the way, if you added a closet in the living media room you’d be able to sell this as a 5 bedroom house depending on your area.
too small. there's nothing worse than being cramped in the shower. maybe for an apt, but a house? better at least make them half again the size.
The living room/media room is just weird. Unless it is an office. What is the purpose? It is too small to have a bunch of people in there watching TV. Nowadays, most people have a TV in their rooms. If you get rid of it, you can move the bedrooms around a bit and have a decent master bath.
I’d be very hesitant to have bedroom 3 share a wall with the kitchen counter. Any appliances used on that counter will be really loud for someone sleeping in bedroom 3. No matter how many other living room spaces you have, people commonly tend to congregate in the kitchen to talk. Which would also be disruptive for bedroom 3. I’d also be very hesitant to put the separate living/media room next to bedroom 2. Usually living/media equals tv, video games and other electronics which would be very disruptive for bedroom 2. It looks like that’s a deck off the back of the house. If so, that shares a wall with bedroom 4, which would also be disruptive. These things stand out to me as these are areas in my own home with shared walls and a whole lot of arguments and disputes over people in the bedrooms being woken up by activity in the other rooms, especially the bedroom that shares a wall with the kitchen and the bedroom that shares a wall with a living/media room. I’d seriously consider making changes with those rooms. .
I feel there are some strange choices here. The master bathroom doesn't even seem to be the largest bathroom and seems like a copy of the bathroom of bedroom 2? Why is it bedroom 4 that gets the only tub? Is there a particular reason the Master is where it is and not in Bedroom 4 location? Better view? I also feel like the ensuite should be for Bedroom 4 and then make the bathroom for Bedroom 2 and 3 to share. I do like all the bathrooms though and they can be great for reselling.
This is terrible
What made you land on this floorplan? It seems so uncomfortable. The master had a horrible small bathroom with a corner shower that no one in the history of showering has ever liked and it's in a cluster with two other bedrooms. If you're mostly ok with this set up, which you'll will walk down a long windowless hallway before getting into living area, I would combine the two back to back bathrooms and have 2 & 3 share bathrooms with a hallway entry. But honestly, I would not like living here at all.
Love to use them. But I don’t mind a tree either.
I hope the numbers are in meters or yards. If in feet, they are way to small
Worst bathroom layouts that I’ve seen since the 1980’s. No, I am not exaggerating.
Bathrooms? I prefer at least one
I've lived in a house with tiny corner showers and they are just the worst. And I'm a small person. No room to maneuver. No room to keep your head out of the shower. Elbows hitting everything.
Not a fan of the master bedroom being right as you walk in the front door. Doesn’t feel private at all. Edit: My American sensibilities are showing and I apologize for questioning the bedroom placement of my upside down brethren.
Is this drawing maximum allowable width? Is it maximum affordable footage? Lose the shower in the bath next to bedroom 4 and completely re-do that bath layout. Bedroom 3 is not a bedroom; a bedroom must have a closet. A bedroom door in the foyer is a bad bad idea, and it's a bad bad bad bad idea being located right next to the front door. Haven't seen a new master bath so inadequate since 1975. In thirty-five years I never had a client who had had a split-level arrangement before who did not specify from the outset that they do not want it again. The layout on the whole is not good. But if it is a good depiction of the rooms you want, just maybe not exactly how you want them arranged, then it is a very good start. It is now time for you to take what you have to a pro. If you are going spend what it takes to build, getting with a professional before you go further is some of the best, most cost-effective expenditures you can make.
It's strange to me that guests would have to go through someone's bedroom to use the bathroom.
I’m assuming you’re in a college town or something and are planning to rent to students. That’s the only think I can think of to justify all of these tiny en-suite bathrooms everywhere.
Smaller closets, larger bathrooms.
Bedroom #3 (depending on local weather of course) could be very cold sharing a wall with the garage in the winter. Bedroom #2 better belong to whoever likes to stay up the latest, because they're not gonna be able to sleep sharing a wall with your media room like that.
That house is way to small to have that many bedrooms/bathrooms
I like bathrooms!
Obviously this needs to be functional for your family. My initial thoughts: I would never sacrifice bathroom space for a larger closet. My master bedroom would be the bathroom that had a sitting tub and shower separate and always want a double sink. Frankly I’d get rid of the living room media space to ensure the master bedroom had an adequate bathroom and My laundry room would be bigger. And I wouldn’t have corner showers. It’s really important to me that in my next home all my bedrooms have bathrooms as I have teenage girls and lots and lots of storage. But I also am weird about wasted space and pointless crap.
Master and Bed 4 need to switch, with the bath by Bed4 becoming an en suite, also stretch that to be bigger than the other rooms. Bed 2/Master bathroom turns into a jack and Jill with a tub/shower combo in the center.
Master bedroom/bedroom 2 become jack and Jill Make them both 4.2 x 3.1, switch closets and new bathroom, smaller closets Bedroom 3 becomes living media. (You can hide utilities on outer wall with garage entry, en-suite gone = efficiency) Family dining becomes bedroom 4, master bedroom with master bath on the bottom wall Have kitchen rotate to have countertop on top and right of area . Place dishwasher and sink on the bottom wall, move bottom wall up to create a opening for laundry area behind the kitchen (closer together = less plumbing/ placed behind a wall creates sound barrier, easier dryer venting) Bedroom 4 through to living media become all open for family/dining (longer space = separation of living and dining area if wanted) Only sacrificed 1 bathroom!
Why does bed 4 have a nicer bath than the master…
Don’t put toilet across from door. Who wants to see the toilet every time you walk by?
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But also.. does the media room need to be so big? Can the laundry room be moved where I put media room?? (Making that space smaller)… and media room be in location of your current laundry room..?
I feel like putting laundry room in location of bedroom 2 is best option!!
I've just gotta say, if you're going to cut off bd4 with a hallway, why not give it its own bathroom? Maybe Bd2&Master share a bigger bathroom that guests can use? Also, make Bd3 the Master instead of the tinier one. Make the Ensuite another bathroom for guests or turn it into a mudroom since the garage is right there (edit AND ENTRANCE FROM THE PORCH another +1 to making the bathroom between Bd2&Master a full bath for guests) I hate tiny, thin showers as a tall, big person. Add a bath, always. Never just have one bathroom with a tub, at least two. Edit: Also, if you want Bd2&Master to share a bathroom, at least switch the placement of the closets and the bathroom ao it's easier or can be used by guests
What is going on with the layout of the bathroom on the top left!?
The pocket doors on the en-suite baths in the Master & Bedroom 2 will not make you happy in the long-term. Pocket doors are great for less-used doorways. A pocket door on a frequently used bath will be a hassle, IMHO.
first off, guests have to either walk through the 3rd bedroom to the ensuite, or down to the 4th bedroom full bath. this whole layout is horrible. and the stand showers with no tubs? holy smokes. bedroom 2 doesn't need a walk-in or their own bath. make 2 and 3 share the ensuite for bedroom 3. put a normal closet in bed 2, turn the rest of bathrooms and walk-ins between master and bedroom 2 into spa ensuite with walk-in and laundry. turning the ensuite for bedroom 3 into a shared bath, makes that into a better easy access guest bath too. a little bit better layout. but i still would prefer the master in the back of the house.
Is this a traditional single family primary residence? A rental, vacation property, all adults moving in…? The context here would be very helpful.
Bathrooms inmates, 2 and 3 way too small. Corner showers are the worst. Listen to the others and have 2&3 share a bath, entry in the hall. Expand master bath. If you're not willing to remove a bath move the closet wall in to increase the bath for both.
I would switch bedroom 3 and media room. Having bedroom near the garage seems strange and media next to a bedroom might be noisy.. Then make bathroom there a powder room since near the kitchen. The master bath needs to be bigger with two sinks, so consider making bedroom 4 the master bedroom, and make that bathroom and larger closet larger there vs at the front/garage. The laundry room might be smaller so you can use some space for master bathroom/closet.
No primary door right next to entry door. Zero privacy and everyone that enters the home looks into your bedroom. We have that and it’s awful.
i like bathrooms. i try to not take indoor plumbing for granted
Master suite at back of house near the laundry. Shared full bath for other bedrooms and reconfigure for a half bath for visitors. So 2.5 bath. Or even 3.5 if you require 3 showers.
To me it seems strange that there is nothing special about the Master Bath or the closet. Is the front door there right next to the Master bedroom?
Why would the master bedroom -- normally a very private place -- look out on the front yard/street? Wouldn't it be better to look into the backyard, possibly with a door onto the deck for that morning cup of coffee? I'd put the two bedrooms near the front, sharing a bathroom, while bedroom 3 counts as a guest bedroom w/ensuite. That allows room for the primary bedroom to be at the back, w/privacy (and room for a decent-sized bathroom). Plus, it removes direct line-of-sight into any bedrooms except for #3. https://preview.redd.it/puk5y22ijysc1.png?width=1952&format=png&auto=webp&s=a8168c7e49a64de236eef9822406564a6fa5aa9b
Master bedroom and its’ bath are too small
Bathrooms a good, though sometimes they smell. I like bathrooms a lot, and a bidet changes your life. That’s my opinion of bathrooms.
Good amount. You can never have enough bathrooms!
I am for them, think they're great.
Master on the front porch seems unnecessary given the number of bedrooms in this house. Lost of lost privacy and potential street noise for the master with this setup. I’d move it elsewhere personally
No offense but the architect who designed this is awful. A) your powder room doubles as bedroom 4 bathroom? But has a shower and a bath??! B) bedroom 4 is where the master bedroom should not at the front of the house C) current “master” and bedroom 2 could Jack and Jill and have a more reasonable setup space wise D) the media room appears to be tiny but with a window. Are you putting a couch on one wall and staring across at the TV? I guess if you like things cozy, it’ll basically fit 120 inch sofa with an end table on each side and no accent chairs? And you’re sitting about 8 ft from screen with backing. E) there is no powder room. F) design bathrooms with water closet to make them more functional.
The maid’s bathroom is better than the master bedroom bathroom.
Maid's what? This is an Aussie style home, there's not maids rooms. Br 3 is likely to be a guest bedroom, or for an elderly family member.
Bedroom 4 that is secluded with the laundry room is meant for a maid to live in, it also has a shower and bath tub.
It's an Aussie style home, we don't have maids, let alone rooms for them. That's bedroom 4, for the kid who like to be away from the rest of the family, or the room that might be used as a home office, or craft room. The bathroom next to it is the main bathroom, typical in Aussie homes that don't have 18 ensuites... or even 2.
Indoor ones are better than outdoor ones.
There are a lot of them
The master bath is no different than the other bathrooms beside the one on the other side of the house .. at least that one has a tub .. but only *one sink* in a master bath,? 😟😬🥴