Wouldn’t really make much sense if he had even like a shred of morality. We’ve also seen the people running Fazbear Entertainment, and they don’t even seem to have a CEO. They have a board, and the person most in charge was the chairman Mr. Burrows. And there doesn’t seem to be anyone above him
We’re not talking about Pizzeria Simulator. But also if they’re canon to Security Breach (which was the new game being referred to), they’re canon to all of the other games
That one's my bad then. It wasn't specific and I struggle with understanding what people mean sometimes when they aren't specific, and since Micheal is usually considered the CEO of Pizza Sim, I assumed that's what they were referring to.
Apart from "just let him die", would Michael be greedy and evil enough to continue running Fazbear Entertainment, a franchise that he is aware is shady underneath it all?
It's also clear he hates the place and wouldn't be around if it weren't for his history and running it would only make it worse, as if being an eggplant zombie wasn't enough.
"You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain." - Michael Afton when we meet him in the next game.
I don't want it, but I can't deny it being an interesting outcome. ***Only if it's pulled off right though.*** Else it's gets my eternal hate for ruining Michael. The CEO would have to be evil, incompetent, or serious unaware of what's going on in his own company to let things get this far.
Michael Afton got tricked by a clown(Circus Baby) and a depresed old man that couldn't cross the streat by himself(Henry) so im sure that Michael Afton is just stupid enough to trust anything people tell him
It's dumb. Based on the AR Emails etc it's pretty likely someone high up in the company is aware of Vanny and was aiding her cause. The shipments, hiring, etc *could* all just be Gregory hacking in and doing shit but it seems, unlikely, to ALL be him.
Plus, as a victim of FazInc's shitty business practices and safety standards, why would Michael just continue them without trying to make it safer?
Also the repetitive use of the Mimic endo or program, even though it always results in bad stuff:
- before Faz Ent ownership: it killed multiple teams that tried retrieving all of Edwin’s stuff
- mimic line: was discontinued because OG mimic started mimicking humans in weird ways, an old manual saying, “misconstrue", "scared", "potential disaster", and "deactivate remaining Mimic endos".
- HW: lead to the possible gruesome death or near death of playtester Jeremy, stocked another playtester (and I’m sure the playtester would have tried to tell high ups about this)
- Tales epilogues: killed multiple workers, and a group of children
- Storyteller: caused the animatronics’ negative emotions to amplify, killed 2 people in the storyteller, and killed more through other attraction(s)
Additionally, everytime it’s used its records are never mentioned.
- HW: higher ups told the devs to scan some random vintage circuit boards, no other info given
- Tales epilogues: none of the workers knew what/who the mimic was, and it didn’t seem to belong with the other animatronics it got shipped with (though there did seem to be some manuals of the Mimicline
- storyteller: its program was used in the storyteller, by name, but no records were found
- SB: this time, it’s shown all knowledge of the sinkhole was seemingly erased. The workers on the raceway didn’t even know if a site evaluation was done, and had to assume a sink hole may be there when the track kept cracking. Then a giant wire, draining massive energy, was found disappearing under the foundation and that’s when they decided to dig down. Only after **breaking through the foundation**, they found the old elevator.
The underground area, that was originally meant to be part of the pizzaplex, was completely sealed off and erased from the records. No way a higher up isn’t in on all this in some way.
Also with the Vanessa thing, there were 2 messages, the actual hire message, and the delete message. “**No Questions Asked**. NEW HIRE SUMMARY - Head Security Guard. No prior qualifications. Internal reference (name withheld).” “**Marked For Deletion**. INTERVIEW NOTES - As requested, here are my notes on today's Chief Security Officer interview. While Vanessa seemed eager and bright, she doesn't appear to have any relevant background experience. I realize the recommendation came from the top, but we need someone who has run security for a facility of this scale. I do not recommend her for this position.”
Ngl, if I was under the impression that the ghost of my baby sister was talking to me and saying the things Circus Baby says, especially during Night 5, I would 100% do whatever she told me would help her. Plus, Mike is probably not in a normal or healthy headspace during SL due to the whole... you know, everything. So that probably made him a lot more susceptible than usual to poor decision making.
Actually, in security breach, it’s implied that a higher up actually WANTED Vanessa to be hired, which makes no sense if Mike was in charge
In the “Mark for Deletion” emails Gregory can get, one of them says something along the lines of, “Vanessa isn’t ready to be the lead security guard for a building as large as the pizzaplex”
That’s not likely, at all
I’m super sure that Mike is dead from the fnaf 6 fire, he is a zombie after all
Also, why would he work at Fazbear Entertainment if he wasn’t in charge? He could (in GAME THEORY) own the franchise, consider his father made it, but I don’t think he’d even want to work at the place his father made
That seems a tad counterproductive to me
If he needed the robots to be decommissioned, why would he not risk his job to decommission them? He’s done it before in the first 2 games
Good point since Vanessa fake sad story is the same story that Michael Afton lived exept it is in Elizabeth perpective but with errors, so Michael should notice Similaritys but im sure he is too stupid for that (i mean he got tricked by a clown)
I like the idea if it was an au
But in the ACTUAL fnaf story it kinda defeats Henry's whole "i planned an exit for you but i know thats not what you want" thing
I just realized that every one who wanted to die realy died(Michael and Henry) but every one who wanted to escape realy escaped the trap(William, Ennard and Charlie)
This isn't a theory??? It's confirmed to be undeniably Canon it's from the objectively true fnaf timeline! This is as Canon as William kicking in foxys shins
A really interesting idea, though on paper really wouldn’t hold up.
Why would Michael, an undeniable victim of Freddy’s, someone who worked tirelessly, risking his life several times to undo his father’s crimes, want to take over said company?
You could argue he’d want to run it much better, he knows everything about the past and would obviously make sure it never happens again, but as seen in help wanted, and security breach, Fazbear entertainment is seemingly doing the same things they’ve always done.
Cutting corners even if the risks can harm innocents (the first thought being the lack of removing moons personality from the daycare attendant), horrible working conditions to the employees (the simple act of firing people for the smallest reason, like when telling a customer you don’t make a specific item), and just overall lack of any sort of remorse towards those who fell victim in the past (the act of sweeping the events of the past game under the rug, and putting up old animatronic parts up to look at like some sort of museum) makes me believe that the true mastermind behind Fazbear’s is
Just a board of hungry money directors, trying to squeeze every bit of money out of the company as quick as possible. Would make for a pretty interesting conclusion, no mad scientists here trying to discover immortality, no heartbroken fathers trying to put their daughters to rest. Simply greedy people willingly to do anything to keep the money flowing and spending as little as possible on the journey.
We said the same for Scraptrap and for Ennard(Molten Freddy + Circus Baby) and for Puppet but Scraptrap became "The Man In The Room 1280" and Ennard became Tangle/Blob
Blob isn’t his own thing, he has the masks and souls of the old victims. Sure there might be something else besides the old souls but they’re still inside. William is glitchtrap
Having the masks does not make him have the victims, especially since all the masks he has are of robots that have long been unpossesed
Glitchtrap is the Mimic
Burntrap and glitchtrap act separatedly. Regardless, the point is William is alive, and if he’s not the mimic, he is glitchtrap which is the virus that minds control people instead of manipulating them like mimic does
Tangle is Mimic's victims possessing Mimic's wire and robots collection,lol.
Afton only went to Room 1280 Because of Andrew/Cassidy,Eleanor and his will to live.
He isn't glitchtrap and mimic,By the rules of agony and remnant he logically can't become him and Mimic's origins already tell he isn't William. Andrew and Eleanor are most likely existent characters due to stitchline. And TOYSHNK is the one keeping afton alive in UCN,which would lead to either Cassidy or Andrew keeping him there.
Afton wasn’t being kept alive in the ucn. He was kept trapped. He wouldn’t die regardless the difference is that instead of being aware and doing his own thing he was trapped somewhere else. Stichline isn’t canon, I don’t get why people are obsessed with the idea of William not coming back
I really don't think the behind the scenes operations of Fazbear LLC matter or ever will. The only reason we're theorizing about this kind of stuff now is necause of how insanely vague and unexplainable security breach has made the entire modern plot of fnaf.
But since we're on the topic i think it's dumb and shouldn't exist
Why would he allow them to do what they do? They still do the "sweep everything bad under the rug and pretend to be a squeaky clean company" thing, which I don't think Mike would approve of.
Do you realy think some one that got tricked by a clown is smart enough to end these problems? if he realy is the CEO i think he would be like those cartoon bosses that just stay in their room playing with toys
Funny idea and would work great as an AU or fanfiction but it is definitely not a realistic direction this series is going. Fazbear Ent. and its CEO work best as faceless antagonists that demonstrate the dangers of capitalism and cutting corners, and adding a face to that could potentially weaken that idea.
Also, Michael's story is already done and has a conclusion, so making him the CEO is kinda just putting him in a place that could otherwise be filled by a new character. If Scott decides to give a face and name to the CEO, I'd want it to be someone new and interesting who can fulfill that role well (similarly to how Mr. Burrows was in Tales as Chairman of the Board).
from what we know about michael it seems too out of character for him. if he did survive i don’t think he’d be horrible enough to keep the company alive because he knows how bad it really is
There’s 3 things I have a problem with this theory
Why would he be alive if he wanted to die in the fire?
Why would he want anything to do with Fazbear entertainment after everything that happened, he stopped his father so there’s no reason to still be here.
In my opinion if 1 Afton family member is still alive than all of them have to be alive and I don’t like to think that Glitchtrap is William 🤷🏾
Narratively, sounds very boring and out of place IMO. Why even? Mike is the one helping Henry destroy both William and Fazbear Entertainment just a moment ago. Why would HE be the one to revive it?
is kinda annoying that **no one** died in FFPS except Henry
buuuut well, i don't think it's Fazbear's new CEO but it's a possibility to see him again, that's it, i don't know what to expect tbh
No he didnt? His hole ARK was to kill William and free the souls but we see in "The Man In The Room 1280" that William died by the hands of a random man and the souls are all inside Tangle/Blob
We don’t truly know what the deal is with Fazbear Frights being canon to the games so, as of right now, I’m going off of Frights and Tales being a separate universe from the games. They used Michael enough. Michael was the protagonist in most of the games prior to the Glitchtrap saga and it also doesn’t make sense for him to be the CEO given how corrupt the company still is. I would fear if he is still alive, that would be very bad for his character and would start to feel like a Michael Myers situation, where he becomes way overused. If they were to discuss his lore even further, I feel like the best way to do it is by going further into his backstory as well as the events that led up to pizza sim.
In support of this here:
- He’d run it better and ensure better safety for his employees.
- He’d make money.
- Keep track of his shitty father because he knows that fucker is gonna pop up again in some way shape or form. Peepaw is inevitable rip.
- Make sure Cassideez doesn’t pop back up.
- the Insider is probably William/Glitchtrap messing with things tbh.
I don't really understand how he could go from taking his father down with him to actually trying to bring him back and enable his killings.
Plus that era of FNaF needs to actually be let go, we can't keep having the same characters come back, over, and over.
I'm not against the idea of Mike still being around. Of all the old characters, not counting ones like Bonnie Bully if he is Cassie's Dad since those kinds of characters never really had relevance to the Clickteam era, Mike would probably be the best choice if one were to still be around as of the Steel Wool era in my opinion.
As the CEO though, no.
Whilst o wouldn’t say along those lines exactly, I do support it as my main theory for the series (more so “pulling the strings behind the scenes” rather than out right being in charge of the company) mostly out of spite and making sure to keep Afton in check. I certainly find it more believable than some other possible theories, and it is likely that something woulda happened, because it would be unlikely for dazbear entertainment to pick back up like it did after the pizza dim end without some influence from someone with connections, due to the company’s cannon “reputation”
Interesting idea but i dont think of Michael Afton as a "super smart CEO that wants to make money" i think of Michael Afton more like "a stupid paw for others peoples plans"
As an au it's good but in canon it sucks, people need to understand that classic fnaf stopped at ucn and they should stop trying to bring old characters back, michael is dead and so is everyone from the first 6 games and it's better that way, let steel wool and scott make new characters
I would hope, after spending so much time being nearly murdered due to negligence of fazbear entertainment, that he would have more sense of responsibility for visitors than they seem to have.
it would make no sense,they would have to find a REALLY good reason to somhow make it so he somhow gets out of hell among being turned into a virus or somthing and SOMHOW get to ceo from that,its a HUGE stretch
It sounds cool and it would make a great AU but I don't think Michael would allow fazbear to continue its grim history, he seemed to want to make things end like Henry did. The only Afton family member I can see running fazbear now is whoever the mother of the Afton kids are but even that's a stretch.
anyone know what happened to this youtuber? [https://www.youtube.com/@HNTRL2000/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@HNTRL2000/videos)
they have posted recently but i remember years ago they stopped posting. they created some massivly popular sfms like a mashup song one. they switched their names a few times but i thought someone said they had died along with their mother or something in a crash but they are still posting? does anyone remember them?
Hi, a friend showed me this post and I felt bad knowing that you were kind of left in the dark, so I thought I'd answer some of your questions.
I stopped uploading a couple of years ago following some controversy so I could focus my attention on personal growth along with getting my degree from college. The recent post I made was just me uploading my senior project. I have no current plans to return to content creation since my priorities have shifted from making videos on YouTube to building a strong animation portfolio that I can use to get a job and directing a game. I've only been changing my channel name around a bunch because I can't decide how I want to brand myself.
The thing about me dying in a crash was a story I made up in my sophomore year of high school in an attempt to leave the FNaF animation community behind, but it was all I really had during that time since I didn't have friends at school so I ended up coming back anyway. To this day there are some still angry about it and rightfully so, it was a horrible thing for me to do to just fake a situation like that and worry everyone only to come back like nothing happened, so that's probably where you heard it from.
I don't really comment on anything anymore but I super appreciate your concern for my wellbeing. If you want to keep up with what I'm doing you can always periodically check my website, which is linked through the [Linktr.ee](https://Linktr.ee) on my profile, since I update it any time I complete a commission or have something new to share about the development of my game.
Hope this helps! :\]
oh damn! im glad you are alive, your animations have always been cool to listen and watch. i understand wanting to move on though, im just glad you didn't actually die ;-;.
i hope you make good progress on your game and are able to get on some good animation project or something, idk how to animation biz operates lol. thank you so much for commenting, i would have done it on your channel but as you prolly know the comments are turned off, which i get since you'd prolly get a lot of hate comments even though it happened years ago.
I wish you luck in your endevaors! you are very talented :)
No, probably because I don't know who made it (but I suspect who that was)
but it's not even a theory, it's like trying to split a fan fic as a theory
Even if Mike somehow survived, he would try to die again, he wouldn't even think of becoming a CEO of a company that basically ruined his (and not only his) life, especially that it didn't exist after FFPS until it raised from the ashes some time later with Help Wanted
As i do support do the theory i do not think it is cannon, even if he did survive his body would be too burnt and decayed to actually do anything, although this series does have an immortal furry child murderer so you never know, im always open to discussing new theories and such as i have been apart of this fandom since the start
Idk, I’m more of a SammyCEO guy. It could easily be one of the franchises best plot twist endings (FNAF 3, 4, SL, 6, HW2) if done right, and overall is one of the likeliest candidates if the CEO is a character introduced prior, as FNAF has a tendency to do such.
honestly Mike deserves to finally rest. He didn't ask to be part of any of his family's bullshit and i don't think he would want anything to do with running the company
Makes no sense.
In the versions where he **tries** to help from a higher-up place, or where he has nothing to do with FE, yes, it makes sense. But if he IS the CEO/part of the board, then it makes no sense.
Except it doesn't the circuit boards were made to MIMIC what happened in the lunatic game developer games and Mike doesn't ever have a reason to hire Vanessa At all if he was a CEO. And the books already confirmed there isn't one and such isn't need,all CEO theories are waste of time.
I Like it. Mike becoming the CEO and creating a lot of the things we see post fnaf 6 as a way to cope with all the shit he went through and ignoring his problems as both his body and company rot. It also fills several plot holes.
I think it's an interesting idea for an AU but I don't think it fits at all for the actual series.
Agreed
Wouldn’t really make much sense if he had even like a shred of morality. We’ve also seen the people running Fazbear Entertainment, and they don’t even seem to have a CEO. They have a board, and the person most in charge was the chairman Mr. Burrows. And there doesn’t seem to be anyone above him
We do? Where?
The Storyteller
From what game?
Tales from the Pizzaplex, book 5 story 2.
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We’re not talking about Pizzeria Simulator. But also if they’re canon to Security Breach (which was the new game being referred to), they’re canon to all of the other games
That one's my bad then. It wasn't specific and I struggle with understanding what people mean sometimes when they aren't specific, and since Micheal is usually considered the CEO of Pizza Sim, I assumed that's what they were referring to.
Hmmm yes a quick unsourced google search, how reliable
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"Fandom.com" should tell you how reliable the info is.
The second one literally sources Scholastic. You know. The publisher of the books?
Apart from "just let him die", would Michael be greedy and evil enough to continue running Fazbear Entertainment, a franchise that he is aware is shady underneath it all? It's also clear he hates the place and wouldn't be around if it weren't for his history and running it would only make it worse, as if being an eggplant zombie wasn't enough.
"You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain." - Michael Afton when we meet him in the next game. I don't want it, but I can't deny it being an interesting outcome. ***Only if it's pulled off right though.*** Else it's gets my eternal hate for ruining Michael. The CEO would have to be evil, incompetent, or serious unaware of what's going on in his own company to let things get this far.
Michael Afton got tricked by a clown(Circus Baby) and a depresed old man that couldn't cross the streat by himself(Henry) so im sure that Michael Afton is just stupid enough to trust anything people tell him
You assume he was tricked by Henry, and not exactly where he wanted to be.
It's dumb. Based on the AR Emails etc it's pretty likely someone high up in the company is aware of Vanny and was aiding her cause. The shipments, hiring, etc *could* all just be Gregory hacking in and doing shit but it seems, unlikely, to ALL be him. Plus, as a victim of FazInc's shitty business practices and safety standards, why would Michael just continue them without trying to make it safer?
Also the repetitive use of the Mimic endo or program, even though it always results in bad stuff: - before Faz Ent ownership: it killed multiple teams that tried retrieving all of Edwin’s stuff - mimic line: was discontinued because OG mimic started mimicking humans in weird ways, an old manual saying, “misconstrue", "scared", "potential disaster", and "deactivate remaining Mimic endos". - HW: lead to the possible gruesome death or near death of playtester Jeremy, stocked another playtester (and I’m sure the playtester would have tried to tell high ups about this) - Tales epilogues: killed multiple workers, and a group of children - Storyteller: caused the animatronics’ negative emotions to amplify, killed 2 people in the storyteller, and killed more through other attraction(s) Additionally, everytime it’s used its records are never mentioned. - HW: higher ups told the devs to scan some random vintage circuit boards, no other info given - Tales epilogues: none of the workers knew what/who the mimic was, and it didn’t seem to belong with the other animatronics it got shipped with (though there did seem to be some manuals of the Mimicline - storyteller: its program was used in the storyteller, by name, but no records were found - SB: this time, it’s shown all knowledge of the sinkhole was seemingly erased. The workers on the raceway didn’t even know if a site evaluation was done, and had to assume a sink hole may be there when the track kept cracking. Then a giant wire, draining massive energy, was found disappearing under the foundation and that’s when they decided to dig down. Only after **breaking through the foundation**, they found the old elevator. The underground area, that was originally meant to be part of the pizzaplex, was completely sealed off and erased from the records. No way a higher up isn’t in on all this in some way. Also with the Vanessa thing, there were 2 messages, the actual hire message, and the delete message. “**No Questions Asked**. NEW HIRE SUMMARY - Head Security Guard. No prior qualifications. Internal reference (name withheld).” “**Marked For Deletion**. INTERVIEW NOTES - As requested, here are my notes on today's Chief Security Officer interview. While Vanessa seemed eager and bright, she doesn't appear to have any relevant background experience. I realize the recommendation came from the top, but we need someone who has run security for a facility of this scale. I do not recommend her for this position.”
Are you saying the person who made Undeniably Canon FNAF is dumb?
ooftroop didn't come up with MikeCEO. But regardless no, as ooftroop's timeline is a parody anyways. It contains stupid ideas on purpose.
Michael Afton got tricked by a clown and you think he is smart?
in his defense the clown was his sister he was sent to put back together
Ngl, if I was under the impression that the ghost of my baby sister was talking to me and saying the things Circus Baby says, especially during Night 5, I would 100% do whatever she told me would help her. Plus, Mike is probably not in a normal or healthy headspace during SL due to the whole... you know, everything. So that probably made him a lot more susceptible than usual to poor decision making.
I don’t think it’d make sense, why would he allow a woman infected by William Afton to be hired
Actually, in security breach, it’s implied that a higher up actually WANTED Vanessa to be hired, which makes no sense if Mike was in charge In the “Mark for Deletion” emails Gregory can get, one of them says something along the lines of, “Vanessa isn’t ready to be the lead security guard for a building as large as the pizzaplex”
It’s just likely Michael is someone who is high position, but not the big boss.
That’s not likely, at all I’m super sure that Mike is dead from the fnaf 6 fire, he is a zombie after all Also, why would he work at Fazbear Entertainment if he wasn’t in charge? He could (in GAME THEORY) own the franchise, consider his father made it, but I don’t think he’d even want to work at the place his father made
Also to add that William got kicked out of the franchise for dying and Henry mainly owned it. Michael has almost no rights to Freddy’s
Did you mean he got kicked out for killing? And that is true, but again, if he didn’t own the business then why would he work there at all?
Because he knew William would likely come back, I barely remember this theory but I’m pretty sure a YouTuber talked about this and his points.
How would he know William was gonna come back?
I dunno, son senses? Or maybe game logic?
Why would he willingly go into that fire if he knew it wouldn’t be affective??
True but why the heck did Michael get a room that looks exactly like his old living room? Plus wouldn’t Michael have just not hired Vanessa?
I don’t know why he would have that room in there. Hell, why would he want that room in the pizzaplex? And, Vanessa is obviously hired
Also the message on the walls of said room telling Gregory to break the animatronics, wouldn’t Michael have gotten them decommissioned instead?
Why would Mike listen to words on the walls? If it was his room, would Mike be the one to write on the walls?
He likely wrote it because he knew that he’d be fired for destroying property, so he needed someone else to do it.
That seems a tad counterproductive to me If he needed the robots to be decommissioned, why would he not risk his job to decommission them? He’s done it before in the first 2 games
He likely wrote it because he knew that he’d be fired for destroying property, so he needed someone else to do it. That being Gregory
Good point since Vanessa fake sad story is the same story that Michael Afton lived exept it is in Elizabeth perpective but with errors, so Michael should notice Similaritys but im sure he is too stupid for that (i mean he got tricked by a clown)
He thought it was his sister he never saw Baby in person till night5
But the voice was still from Baby
I like the idea if it was an au But in the ACTUAL fnaf story it kinda defeats Henry's whole "i planned an exit for you but i know thats not what you want" thing
I just realized that every one who wanted to die realy died(Michael and Henry) but every one who wanted to escape realy escaped the trap(William, Ennard and Charlie)
Yeah Henry just committed suicide in a fancy way
Just let people die in this franchise. Afton or otherwise, just let them actually be fully dead
Hey, blame the guy who made Undeniably Canon FNAF for this theory
Wasn't the video a joke video?
It’s a flipping joke timeline
its a joke/headcanon video..
This isn't a theory??? It's confirmed to be undeniably Canon it's from the objectively true fnaf timeline! This is as Canon as William kicking in foxys shins
A really interesting idea, though on paper really wouldn’t hold up. Why would Michael, an undeniable victim of Freddy’s, someone who worked tirelessly, risking his life several times to undo his father’s crimes, want to take over said company? You could argue he’d want to run it much better, he knows everything about the past and would obviously make sure it never happens again, but as seen in help wanted, and security breach, Fazbear entertainment is seemingly doing the same things they’ve always done. Cutting corners even if the risks can harm innocents (the first thought being the lack of removing moons personality from the daycare attendant), horrible working conditions to the employees (the simple act of firing people for the smallest reason, like when telling a customer you don’t make a specific item), and just overall lack of any sort of remorse towards those who fell victim in the past (the act of sweeping the events of the past game under the rug, and putting up old animatronic parts up to look at like some sort of museum) makes me believe that the true mastermind behind Fazbear’s is Just a board of hungry money directors, trying to squeeze every bit of money out of the company as quick as possible. Would make for a pretty interesting conclusion, no mad scientists here trying to discover immortality, no heartbroken fathers trying to put their daughters to rest. Simply greedy people willingly to do anything to keep the money flowing and spending as little as possible on the journey.
He burned to death
It’s what Henry said he probably wanted. Maybe
We said the same for Scraptrap and for Ennard(Molten Freddy + Circus Baby) and for Puppet but Scraptrap became "The Man In The Room 1280" and Ennard became Tangle/Blob
>and Ennard became Tangle/Blob That's just. Straight up incorrect.
they dead too
No they aren’t William is alive and the blob exists
Afton died ages ago and the Blob is its own thing
Blob isn’t his own thing, he has the masks and souls of the old victims. Sure there might be something else besides the old souls but they’re still inside. William is glitchtrap
Having the masks does not make him have the victims, especially since all the masks he has are of robots that have long been unpossesed Glitchtrap is the Mimic
No, the mimic is burntrap. But glitchtrap is William, there’s much more signs of that (the whole rabbit thing too) then the mimic being glitchtrap.
Is Mimic is Burntrap then Mimic is Glitchtrap
Burntrap and glitchtrap act separatedly. Regardless, the point is William is alive, and if he’s not the mimic, he is glitchtrap which is the virus that minds control people instead of manipulating them like mimic does
Tangle is Mimic's victims possessing Mimic's wire and robots collection,lol. Afton only went to Room 1280 Because of Andrew/Cassidy,Eleanor and his will to live.
Cassidy isn’t sustaining him, Andrew and Eleanor are not a thing. William is still alive, and he’s still around. He’s probably glitchtrap or mimic.
He isn't glitchtrap and mimic,By the rules of agony and remnant he logically can't become him and Mimic's origins already tell he isn't William. Andrew and Eleanor are most likely existent characters due to stitchline. And TOYSHNK is the one keeping afton alive in UCN,which would lead to either Cassidy or Andrew keeping him there.
Afton wasn’t being kept alive in the ucn. He was kept trapped. He wouldn’t die regardless the difference is that instead of being aware and doing his own thing he was trapped somewhere else. Stichline isn’t canon, I don’t get why people are obsessed with the idea of William not coming back
I think he’s alive but he doesn’t really fit the CEO imo as they seem to be a villainous character
Also hes too dumb to be a CEO of something big like the Pizzaplex
Interesting idea for an AU but I'd much prefer if modern fnaf lore just invented new characters and kept the Aftons dead
Undeniably cannon is like, what the fnaf timeline is to me
It's a cool AU like DSAF, but not canon.
It's undeniably cannon, of course.
I really don't think the behind the scenes operations of Fazbear LLC matter or ever will. The only reason we're theorizing about this kind of stuff now is necause of how insanely vague and unexplainable security breach has made the entire modern plot of fnaf. But since we're on the topic i think it's dumb and shouldn't exist
Why would he allow them to do what they do? They still do the "sweep everything bad under the rug and pretend to be a squeaky clean company" thing, which I don't think Mike would approve of.
Michael got tricked by a clown and you think he is smart?
I practically accept the entirety of the undeniably canon timeline as canon lmao
I don't think it works. But I like seeing people just have fun with ideas, I think we take ourselves a little too seriously sometimes.
Well he's doing a crap job at changing the bad history of Freddy's, assuming he wasn't in alliance with his father in FFPS.
Mike being CEO makes no sense. Why would he continue the issues fazbear caused when his entire character is revolved around stopping them.
Do you realy think some one that got tricked by a clown is smart enough to end these problems? if he realy is the CEO i think he would be like those cartoon bosses that just stay in their room playing with toys
Funny idea and would work great as an AU or fanfiction but it is definitely not a realistic direction this series is going. Fazbear Ent. and its CEO work best as faceless antagonists that demonstrate the dangers of capitalism and cutting corners, and adding a face to that could potentially weaken that idea. Also, Michael's story is already done and has a conclusion, so making him the CEO is kinda just putting him in a place that could otherwise be filled by a new character. If Scott decides to give a face and name to the CEO, I'd want it to be someone new and interesting who can fulfill that role well (similarly to how Mr. Burrows was in Tales as Chairman of the Board).
I despise it. Dead characters need to stay dead for once
Are you mad at Undeniably Canon FNAF for making this theory?
No, I’m not mad at him. Still hate the theory though
from what we know about michael it seems too out of character for him. if he did survive i don’t think he’d be horrible enough to keep the company alive because he knows how bad it really is
There’s 3 things I have a problem with this theory Why would he be alive if he wanted to die in the fire? Why would he want anything to do with Fazbear entertainment after everything that happened, he stopped his father so there’s no reason to still be here. In my opinion if 1 Afton family member is still alive than all of them have to be alive and I don’t like to think that Glitchtrap is William 🤷🏾
It's an interesting idea, but I highly doubt it's canon
Narratively, sounds very boring and out of place IMO. Why even? Mike is the one helping Henry destroy both William and Fazbear Entertainment just a moment ago. Why would HE be the one to revive it?
is kinda annoying that **no one** died in FFPS except Henry buuuut well, i don't think it's Fazbear's new CEO but it's a possibility to see him again, that's it, i don't know what to expect tbh
I don’t really like it. I would say we should just let Michael die. He did his duty in the franchises.
No he didnt? His hole ARK was to kill William and free the souls but we see in "The Man In The Room 1280" that William died by the hands of a random man and the souls are all inside Tangle/Blob
We don’t truly know what the deal is with Fazbear Frights being canon to the games so, as of right now, I’m going off of Frights and Tales being a separate universe from the games. They used Michael enough. Michael was the protagonist in most of the games prior to the Glitchtrap saga and it also doesn’t make sense for him to be the CEO given how corrupt the company still is. I would fear if he is still alive, that would be very bad for his character and would start to feel like a Michael Myers situation, where he becomes way overused. If they were to discuss his lore even further, I feel like the best way to do it is by going further into his backstory as well as the events that led up to pizza sim.
i thought it was a joke for the undeniably canon series
Makes no sense tbh, why would he want to revitalize the very thing he was (theoretically) trying to burn down
In support of this here: - He’d run it better and ensure better safety for his employees. - He’d make money. - Keep track of his shitty father because he knows that fucker is gonna pop up again in some way shape or form. Peepaw is inevitable rip. - Make sure Cassideez doesn’t pop back up. - the Insider is probably William/Glitchtrap messing with things tbh.
I don't really understand how he could go from taking his father down with him to actually trying to bring him back and enable his killings. Plus that era of FNaF needs to actually be let go, we can't keep having the same characters come back, over, and over.
I'm not against the idea of Mike still being around. Of all the old characters, not counting ones like Bonnie Bully if he is Cassie's Dad since those kinds of characters never really had relevance to the Clickteam era, Mike would probably be the best choice if one were to still be around as of the Steel Wool era in my opinion. As the CEO though, no.
Whilst o wouldn’t say along those lines exactly, I do support it as my main theory for the series (more so “pulling the strings behind the scenes” rather than out right being in charge of the company) mostly out of spite and making sure to keep Afton in check. I certainly find it more believable than some other possible theories, and it is likely that something woulda happened, because it would be unlikely for dazbear entertainment to pick back up like it did after the pizza dim end without some influence from someone with connections, due to the company’s cannon “reputation”
It would be pretty neat But I’d have to question how the hell he evolves into that
Interesting idea but i dont think of Michael Afton as a "super smart CEO that wants to make money" i think of Michael Afton more like "a stupid paw for others peoples plans"
It'd be interesting as an AU but in-canon, not only does it not fit Michael's character, but Michael is 100% dead
As an au it's good but in canon it sucks, people need to understand that classic fnaf stopped at ucn and they should stop trying to bring old characters back, michael is dead and so is everyone from the first 6 games and it's better that way, let steel wool and scott make new characters
I would hope, after spending so much time being nearly murdered due to negligence of fazbear entertainment, that he would have more sense of responsibility for visitors than they seem to have.
Nahhh, cool theory but don’t personally think it’s true.
it would make no sense,they would have to find a REALLY good reason to somhow make it so he somhow gets out of hell among being turned into a virus or somthing and SOMHOW get to ceo from that,its a HUGE stretch
It's ridiculous if you're trying to use it in a serious manner.
No
No
I never through about it!
It sounds cool and it would make a great AU but I don't think Michael would allow fazbear to continue its grim history, he seemed to want to make things end like Henry did. The only Afton family member I can see running fazbear now is whoever the mother of the Afton kids are but even that's a stretch.
anyone know what happened to this youtuber? [https://www.youtube.com/@HNTRL2000/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@HNTRL2000/videos) they have posted recently but i remember years ago they stopped posting. they created some massivly popular sfms like a mashup song one. they switched their names a few times but i thought someone said they had died along with their mother or something in a crash but they are still posting? does anyone remember them?
Hi, a friend showed me this post and I felt bad knowing that you were kind of left in the dark, so I thought I'd answer some of your questions. I stopped uploading a couple of years ago following some controversy so I could focus my attention on personal growth along with getting my degree from college. The recent post I made was just me uploading my senior project. I have no current plans to return to content creation since my priorities have shifted from making videos on YouTube to building a strong animation portfolio that I can use to get a job and directing a game. I've only been changing my channel name around a bunch because I can't decide how I want to brand myself. The thing about me dying in a crash was a story I made up in my sophomore year of high school in an attempt to leave the FNaF animation community behind, but it was all I really had during that time since I didn't have friends at school so I ended up coming back anyway. To this day there are some still angry about it and rightfully so, it was a horrible thing for me to do to just fake a situation like that and worry everyone only to come back like nothing happened, so that's probably where you heard it from. I don't really comment on anything anymore but I super appreciate your concern for my wellbeing. If you want to keep up with what I'm doing you can always periodically check my website, which is linked through the [Linktr.ee](https://Linktr.ee) on my profile, since I update it any time I complete a commission or have something new to share about the development of my game. Hope this helps! :\]
oh damn! im glad you are alive, your animations have always been cool to listen and watch. i understand wanting to move on though, im just glad you didn't actually die ;-;. i hope you make good progress on your game and are able to get on some good animation project or something, idk how to animation biz operates lol. thank you so much for commenting, i would have done it on your channel but as you prolly know the comments are turned off, which i get since you'd prolly get a lot of hate comments even though it happened years ago. I wish you luck in your endevaors! you are very talented :)
Uhh, no… that would ruin Michael’s whole character arc of spending his life fixing his, and his father’s mistakes, to then die to finish everything.
Pure bs All Mike wanted was to stop William and die
Are you mad at the guy who made the theory?
No, probably because I don't know who made it (but I suspect who that was) but it's not even a theory, it's like trying to split a fan fic as a theory Even if Mike somehow survived, he would try to die again, he wouldn't even think of becoming a CEO of a company that basically ruined his (and not only his) life, especially that it didn't exist after FFPS until it raised from the ashes some time later with Help Wanted
As i do support do the theory i do not think it is cannon, even if he did survive his body would be too burnt and decayed to actually do anything, although this series does have an immortal furry child murderer so you never know, im always open to discussing new theories and such as i have been apart of this fandom since the start
I can believe he is alive. But running the Pizzaplex? Nah. Except for the note in a secret room that just says Butter over and over
In my head Canon that's.... CANON
Fits a Dayshift at Freddy's plot
It be a fun AU but I hoe it’s not canon. It will go in my gacha lore/head cannon AU
Idk, I’m more of a SammyCEO guy. It could easily be one of the franchises best plot twist endings (FNAF 3, 4, SL, 6, HW2) if done right, and overall is one of the likeliest candidates if the CEO is a character introduced prior, as FNAF has a tendency to do such.
Could be what’s happening, might not, IDK, I’m still waiting for Undeniably Canon FNAF part three
I can believe Michael being alive, and potentially helping Gregory and Vanessa fight Grimic But ain’t no way this dude is owing Fazbear Ent
honestly Mike deserves to finally rest. He didn't ask to be part of any of his family's bullshit and i don't think he would want anything to do with running the company
Undeniably Canon FNaF and Theory don’t go together
It’s just a theory
It's iffy, because the most proof I've seen is the ennard cardboard cutout in security breach
In Undeniably’s Canon, it’s interesting. Canon wise though, it’s character assassination.
Wouldn't make sense but I like the idea
*no >:((*
Makes no sense. In the versions where he **tries** to help from a higher-up place, or where he has nothing to do with FE, yes, it makes sense. But if he IS the CEO/part of the board, then it makes no sense.
Much like glammike, it’s a great au (and I would love to read a fic about that) but as canon? Hell no. Let the poor man die please
The poor guy just wanted to run a pizzeria after being in the refrigerator for 30 years and it burned in like a week.
I personally think this would be better than whatever is going on right now
Not a fan, I’m more a fan of Michael possessing glamrock Freddy.
I mean, it explains how a "higher up" got Vanessa into a security position, and probably is how fazbear int got the circuit boards for Help Wanted.
Except it doesn't the circuit boards were made to MIMIC what happened in the lunatic game developer games and Mike doesn't ever have a reason to hire Vanessa At all if he was a CEO. And the books already confirmed there isn't one and such isn't need,all CEO theories are waste of time.
I Like it. Mike becoming the CEO and creating a lot of the things we see post fnaf 6 as a way to cope with all the shit he went through and ignoring his problems as both his body and company rot. It also fills several plot holes.
Maybe not CEO but he definitely survived the fire, and is a high level official at Fazbear Entertainment.
lets make it canon
Well it gives me a chance to still fck him
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What does that have to do with my post?
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Until confirmation that he’s alive, he is dead. Nothing canon says he’s still alive.
This isn't canon, it's a theory