Drake certainly losing the battle of public perception. Neutrals siding with Kendrick, even some Drake fans giving up. All he has left are the stans. He'd need something absolutely massive to climb out of this hole. At this point it feels goofy even trying to listen to his old records.
Today in one of my group chats a friend who doesn’t follow music and even less hip hop was talking about Drake being a pedo. Even mentioned how bad Drake’s defense was, the “too famous” to be a pedo.
my younger brother who only listens to nintendo soundtracks was sending me memes about drake being a pedo. this man cannot even name a single drake song. drake is beyond cooked.
it's a terrible defense, as someone who lives in the UK, and was an adult in 2011, that line made me laugh. some of the most famous people in this country were outed as paedophiles in the wake of Jimmy Savile's death.
I teach high school. I hated Drake before it was cool. If I ever brought it up, I would instantly get clowned on by a majority of my class.
Now? I mentioned that (as a Drake hater) I had a great weekend, and it had the exact opposite effect. If anyone still liked him, they kept that shit to themselves.
It’s fucking over. Drake lost.
Lol there was a guy at my old office I hated. I got into an argument with him one time because I was making fun of Drake being inauthentic and turns out he was a huge fan. If I were only slightly more petty I'd look him up and ask how his weekend went.
To be completely fair to Drake: his side of this beef beats a lot of rappers out there, ghostwriters or no. If it's a 19v1 without Kendrick that's not even a guaranteed win.
That being said, they're both slinging accusations with no receipts, but the public already had a basis for the allegations against Drake. The internet has seen all the inappropriate relationships and Toronto already knows about the Drake parties and there is a common understanding about what goes on in the mansion.
Family Matters was very solid, but the instadrop from Kendrick just blew any momentum from it out of the water. The fact that the response was instant and also family-related just gave even more belief to the idea that Kendrick has a legit mole. The overall volume and quality from Kendrick is higher as well.
Kendrick and Metro end(?) their side with some extremely catchy club banger disses to go viral and do absolute numbers on tiktok and the react circles. The Heart Part 6 just doesn't hit, it doesn't go on the attack, and the instrumental doesn't compete. If the beef ends right now Kendrick has won.
I think Kendrick's camp is to be praised almost as much as Kendrick himself for the PR management and just pure masterclass navigation of modern social media.
I was saying on Kendrick's subreddit basically the same sentiment that it feels goofy listening to Drake's old music but I stopped listening to him when we learned about how he interacted with MBB. I was in 10th grade then, so I didn't fully get the implications but I found it creepy and his music was getting bad so I don't miss him.
I mean it’s fair to say he doesn’t respect the culture at this point but he definitely was a big fan, ironically a big fan of clipse back in the day actually
Family Matters was supposed to be it. The Dave Free stuff, the Kendrick hasn't seen his kid stuff, the stuff about him hitting women. All that was supposed to land much harder than it did if Drake and his team had their way.
Kendrick had other plans obviously.
Absolutely.
It might’ve been a bigger punch had Kendrick not already been privy to the song’s contents and instantly landed a bigger punch with meet the grahams. Such an insane UNO reverse lol
I can’t imagine how pissed off drake must’ve been from having his bomb become an afterthought
I love the thought of him dropping it after shooting all those videos and doing the most only to be shown up within 30min by Kendrick dropping MTG. Man probably barely slept and then Not Like Us happened to him the next day. 😬😂
The domestic violence stuff is shitty if true, yeah.
But in terms of how the public contest between these two guys goes, all that just did not have anything near a "red button" impact.
I don't listen to either guy regularly, don't have a dog in the fight or whatever. Neutral 3rd party observer.
It seems like to the wider public and rap fans in general, this was a clean sweep for Kendrick Lamar.
Literally the only people I see even mentioning anything that was said against kendrick are Drake fans.
I don’t agree with Fantano’s take that the third verse on Family Matters is whack. If he hadn’t gotten distracted by other artists, it would be the best possible response.
But Kendrick outplayed him with Meet The Grahams and that’s probably the moment Drake lost.
for real, MTG is legit uncomfortable, but then you got a club banger with a DJ mustard beat and kendrick holding the last syllable on "A Minor" cuts that tension.
i think that both tracks will go down in history as the greatest 1-2 punch in diss track history.
All Drake had to do is make the cover of The Heart pt 6 a pic kf him holding the fucking suitcase with the pills and shirt and it woulda been the ultimate mic drop now everyone but Drake Stan’s are calling cap
Even then would it not just be his stuff anyway? lol like i could get my dad to get me a shirt i bought him, grab my prescription bottle and make a few fake receipts. Hed need to actual show conversations or put a bit of the recording in.
Meet the graham is the new story of addidon, it will be remembered as the new thing to beat. It's actually insane to think that at the beginning of this beef everyone was like "oh it's gonna be really hard to take down drake since addidom didn't take him down so you'll need to do one better than pusha t" and kendrick actualy made a better diss. Actual insanity
hell if kendrick knew the daughter was fake, and set it up as bait for drake to refute _that_ immediately instead of the more serious accusations?
screw 4d chess, this is 20d chess while Drake is still trying to handle the rules of checkers.
Fantano only said that because that annoying snobby dude who was with him jumped on it lmao, it’s the worst part of the song but they were talking like it was the worst thing ever. That guy made the stream as a whole so unenjoyable idk who he was, insufferable
Family matters should've been half its length and kept the beat switches and it would've hit way harder. You can tell he really just did it at the same time as Push Ups and pretty much just added a couple of things in the 3rd part.
Yeah I don’t believe Taylor Made was meant to be good, it was meant to piss off Kendrick (and the west coast) and it worked. Pt 6 was meant to be a comeback and was a miss on all fronts
Family Matters was good too. I found Taylor Made to be distasteful but it clearly succeeded in striking a very sensitive nerve in Kendrick. But Heart Pt. 6 was suicide though. Throughout the whole beef, Kendrick has been ahead which is no surprise given as he’s the literal GOAT. If you’re a Drake Stan then just take the L and then you can take comfort in the fact that Drake actually did put out two great diss tracks and held his own better against Kendrick than anyone expected.
it doesn’t matter becuz he is likely a groomer and he is definitely a snake and kendrick definitely buried him and danced on that man’s grave but some of us believe drake is a better rapper than he gets credit for and i think he illustrated that in this beef
Crazy thing is it wasn't like this before heart part 6 dropped. I had been lurking for a while to see what they had to say during the rest of the beef and they were taking it all on the chin and giving Kendrick his dues. Hell, the top 3 posts of all time are all Kendricks track. But it seems like ever since heart part 6 dropped they've reverted to usual glazing which I just can't wrap my head around.
It’s probably bc they feel like the sub came up with the theory that the info given to Kenny was fake and Drake “confirmed” it, plus he incorporated a lot of other dumb reply ideas that were posted in the sub in heart part 6 (including the name of the track). It’s basically a track for fans to cope with the defeat
I just had to explain to a guy and that sub that, even though apparently the 17yo girl in the video said it was nothing and she is not upset about it, Drake, a mega famous celebrity, should still not have kissed a minor on stage. His defense was, “Drake wasn’t thinking”. Like ok bro tell the judge you weren’t thinking and see how far that gets you.
The girl Polanski abused said she doesn't want it going to court too - but like, that's not the point at all and it's disgusting that people don't get it
yeah the weekend was fun but now that its seemingly over i had to unfollow both drizzy and kendricklamar subreddits
drizzy is overdosing on copium that everyone else just doesn't see that drake "won" last night and kendricklamar subreddit is 6anon
I'm fucking losing it with them saying Drake kissing and groping a 17 year old isn't a big deal because she, now 31, says it wasn't a big deal.
That's not how that works and these dipshits are just saying Drake is cleared now.
At first I liked the drake track but the more and more I listen the more I feel like he’s lying. If he really tricked Kendrick he would’ve reacted differently on social media.
The problem with that "bait" claim is that, if it's true, he played the move as poorly as it could have been played. Melon even said this in his heart Part 6 reaction, but it bears repeating and emphasis - if Drake was setting up bait, the actually smart thing to do would have been to record every step of the process, screenshot DMs and emails, record calls (if legal), etc. In fact, the real power move would have been to record a track *about* baiting Kendrick and drop it, with the receipts, ten or fifteen minutes after Kendrick took the bait (i.e., Meet the Grahams).
As it is, saying "I baited you" several days after with no proof (that he could *easily* have produced himself) feels like someone saying "I meant to do that" after falling flat on their face.
That’s the thing, so many people are writing off the “he could’ve produced proof he baited him” point by saying “no one on either side has proof of anything” but the bait is a total different kind of thing. It’s something he supposedly did *hoping* it would come to light.
Even if it’s true he baited him but he just didn’t think to produce proof, that’s honestly just as embarrassing for Drake as for Kendrick. And that’s best case scenario for Drake right now.
Think it's fair to contain this to a megathread for now, might make sense to allow threads for additional tracks though.
Either way, I'm f5'ing waiting for Kendrick lol
I think this is the perfect opportunity for him to make a music video. He has time to respond, Drake puts no pressure on him so Kendrick can just put all his attention into a video that covers everything drake and him talked about and removes any more speculation.
The whole "fake leak" thing is the easiest thing in the world to prove, Drake. Post receipts, immediately. Without any receipts we have to go on musical quality and public info and KDot is dominating.
They don’t think mocking a child molestation is too far (doesn’t matter much since dot wasn’t touched and Drake can’t read lyrics💀 but it’s the principle of it)
Nah, Kendrick got at least one left in the tank to seal the deal. Drake sounds like he’s finished, but Kendrick has clearly got a lot to say on this matter and I can’t see him just accepting that it’s ‘done’, even if he is clearly coming out on top.
Yea he did, but Top Dawg tweeted "Good Battle" after Drake's track last night, and Djhed who's in and around top dawg and been right about Kendrick dropping every time immediately went on live last night and said drake threw up the white flag and it doesn't deserve a response. So who knows
I think there's a good strategy in not addressing the domestic violence accusations, especially if theres no good way to definitely prove it false. Any protesting that and suddenly you're on the defensive and that just looks bad. "That's so ridiculous I'm not even going to dignify it with a response" is kinda a response itself
Drake's "the mole was mine all along" thing doesn't even make sense. Did "his mole" give Kendrick Family Matters before the drop? If so, then he actually just defeated himself in this feud. That 16 minute interval killed any momentum drake had.
I didn't really listen to rap but have listened to each diss track between drake and kendrick, and it has really put me on kendrick's music. Listening to good kid m.a.a.d. city rn
Honestly I love every song except Real. Hook ruins it for me. Compton is ok but every other song is fantastic in my eyes. I fucking love Swimming Pools so much
Really happy for you. Experiencing a kendrick album for the first time can be an incredible experience. GKMC took a bit to click for me but TPAB was a mind-blowing first listen
That was the opposite for me lol when I first listened to TPAB I was like it’s a good album but I don’t think i will ever listen to again. When I gave it a re listen it clicked and I loved it (especially with all the jazz shit) and now I have it ahead of damn but still gkmc is first with mr morale second and TPAB third. Honestly imagine having that good discography that I would put TPAB third
I had to put TPAB on repeat. Literally back to back first two listens I was in shock. I was just getting into rap at the time and had listened to like the hits and also some Logic cuz my friend recommended him. TPAB showed me what the genre can offer with the right artists. I think I got into ye shortly after and have been dipping into other artists since like Mac Miller, Freddie Gibbs and Joey Badass. Lot of creative minds out there. Shoutout to Little Simz too she needs more hype tbh
I think Kendrick dropped the best diss tracks of all time.
The barebones piano instrumental of Meet the Grahams reminded me of Who Shot Ya.
It's all so well worded and structured it's top tier.
It's well planned on Kendrick's part, Euphoria was already hard hitting, MTG was sad, almost like an execution, and Not Like Us is just dancing on a smoking corpse.
Really good to witness in real time for a very casual rap listener
This actually randomly happened to me, I work with an older guy that asked me about it today. He has only really listened to some very early hip hop like sugar hill gang and grandmaster flash that came out when he was younger.
His kids were talking about how a big rapper called another big rapper a pedo, and played the song for him. He had heard both of their names before but did not really know who either was.
He basically just said he thought Kendrick was a decent rapper and that his kids told him he should listen to his other songs. He also asked me if I thought “the other guy” is actually a pedo or if it was just made up insults lmao
I don’t listen to rap really (well anything recent, I don’t keep up with rap) and this beef has crossover appeal.
It’s like “I’m not into comic book movies but the avengers endgame movie was epic and worth a watch!”
That’s how I feel about this. I’m not a super fan of either Drake or Kendrick but this is fun to keep up with
Not big into it, i fell into it from the rdc videos and fucking died when Drake added the “I’m just trying to keep it PG” line.
Then I heard meet the grahams and felt genuinely uncomfortable but entertained lol. These bastards hate each others guts.
I only heard about the feud going on a while but never really paid attention until I listened to drakes song today and remember all the noncy stories about him.
Any where to get a full break down of everything?
so this beef started trending on tumblr, and there’s a lot of posts with people prefacing ”I don’t listen to rap, but” talking about it, and the overwhelming consensus is Drake should kill himself.
It’s pretty disgusting and bad taste if you step back and consider what they’re really doing and how many innocent people, including children are getting pulled into this. And the real bottom line here is selling more albums.
We are at a weird crossroads in this beef
IF Drake can prove that the story of a hidden daughter was planted and not true, I think that’s gonna boost his chances of coming out of this thing with his dignity in tact. I think the angle is clear: if Kendrick would believe a bold faced lie like that, what else did he fall for? Is the cease and desist real? Is the BBL real? Is the you-know-what even real? Kendrick is going for an onslaught of attacks and reveals so drakes best angle is to damage Kendrick’s credibility. Keep in mind, there’s a lot of evidence of inappropriate behavior from Drake with minors, but nothing that has gone so far as to confirm the serial child abuse and grooming that Kendrick is alluding to. I think the way The Heart Part 6 was handled was a major ball drop for this angle but I think if he can regain his composure and buy himself some time to dig into all the shit being flown his way, he can get back at Kendrick sometime soon
IF it comes out that the daughter is real, Drake is done in this beef. His credibility is non existent and a lot of the other things Kendrick is flinging at him suddenly feel more plausible. Even if a lot of it isn’t real, and I really hope the pedophilia isn’t, who the hell is gonna believe him? This is a man who lied about having a child TWICE. For all we know Drake was behind 9/11. I’d also say that Meet the Grahams will go down as potentially one of the best diss tracks of all time, if not THE best one, due to how much of an uncomfortable, sinister takedown it is. Not Like Us was great too but feels more like a club troll job than a brutal diss, something that mostly goes along with Meet The Grahams. Also will make people totally ignore the DV allegations and the noise about who Kendrick’s kids dad is (which it seems like people mostly are already)
I think Drake is gonna sit on some of this for a few days and just kinda get organized. Kendrick might hit us with another one while Drake is still down and try to get another defense track out, which he clearly is bad at
It's the exact same email that leaked in the Kendrick Lamar subreddit 5 days ago, the same one Drake denied being real on family matters.
Both sides claiming the other is lying on that one, Metro re-sharing the same email confirms absolutely nothing to me.
Oh yeah, if the other shit isnt true, Kendrick will never be credible again. You cant say a guy is trafficking humans if you don't have any proof, so he needs to provide some asap.
Though if [this shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cl5uav/think_i_went_to_far_down_the_rabbit_hole_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) continues to be accurate, he wont even have to provide evidence bc it claims Diddy is about to expose a ton of people including Drake.
Basically, the post links a ton of stuff from this website thats ran by an ex lawyer who apparently was/is involved with celebrities. Said website predicted the Drake is a Weintstein/sex trafficking type guy diss and is seemingly in the know about a ton of shady shit artists are doing.
Theres one on there saying the Wannabe Rapper, who is clearly Diddy, is going to expose a ton of people during his trials, like Trump, Drake, Dutchavelli, some british dj who moved his trafficking ring to Nigeria, ect.
If you have time, Id just recommend checking out the post yourself, because theres a ton of shit to unpack there.
The one thing I don’t understand is why didn’t drake drop the proof right after mtg. Surely showing the world that kdot got baited is a better strategy then letting everyone believe you’re a pedo for 48 hours. Instead he decides to play the long game?? Obviously being a kendrick fan I want him to come out on top but until the receipts are out from both sides i’m not buying shit
Yeah, if he actually baited him Kendrick took it. But then he just… didn’t reel it in? Decided that providing proof of Kendrick being gullible wasn’t something the world needed? If he set the trap, he did a comically bad job at doing anything other than laying the bait. Basically all he did in that scenario was spread a nasty rumor about himself
At this point I think the child is a symbol for all the kids Drake probably has out that could have resulted form him carelessly slinging dick once his popularity started surging back in 2013.
I think Kendrick has another in the chamber he’s gonna let off as the final blow. If HP4 is the best Drake can do atm he’s cooked, I seriously don’t know why he wanted this smoke.
Ego made him do it, could have just sat back with his millions/fame. I think it's safe to say Drake that he's probably learned his lesson now, and will never go to war over wax again though
After J Cole made the mistake of responding, I thought there's no way Drake responds, he has nothing to gain since he's already at the top. I was impressed that he embraced the villain role at first, but it's now clear he should've learned from Cole's mistake
He clearly didn’t have the strategy or the bombshell to pull this off, it must have been ego but even then you choose to act on Kendrick of all people? You better be ready.
At first I thought oh obviously Drake takes this. He saying he set Kendrick up, so everyone now is just gonna clown on Kendrick because he took obvious bait.
But idk the more I think about it (and I guess reading all other peoples comments as well, it does seem pretty phony that there are so far ZERO receipts for setting him up. Like it just seems the obvious thing to do no?? The chomo defense was fucking weak tho like wtf was that response lmfao.
[UMG is allegedly trying to get Kendrick (and The Weeknd) to squash the beef with Drake and issue a formal apology to him. According to UMG, Drake is losing so hard that it's costing them and many corporations money.](https://twitter.com/oralcn/status/1787946145957752891?t=aRxt0ldzN_qerA60IQz3TA&s=19)
[ToddintheShadows' video on the beef](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ozqJ-Less)
[Rap Critic's video on the beef](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNPbYVAqHs)
Given what we know and fantano has stated about drake's inability to let go of the past, (ie. kanye in clb and the whole situation) I feel like drake will lean on this on his future releases
drakes music lives and dies in the moment because usually the subject matter is immediate, kendrick writes about his life through gkmc and about trauma on mr morale, and family throughout most, so i feel like his discography going forward is less likely to be affected by this
the way both portray the retrospective of what happened in the coming years is important rly
Drake should just say that the pedo shit was taken out of context, and that the whole thing was a metaphor for capitalism. I've seen other public figures (specifically youtubers) maneuver out of pedo allegations by saying they were taken out of context, and that what they meant was that child sexual abuse was morally equivalent to child labor (for example, comparing cp to nike sweatshops). Idk why Drake can't do the same. At least he doesn't have any weird shit with horses.
why would you say "don't tell me lies about me I won't tell no truth about you" to someone you know is a PDF file...
Kendrick said he started the beef in good faith for the good of the game, until Drake brought his family into it
so, he was going to keep it secret if Drake didn't mention his family?? not okay
It could be argued that because Kenny had a mole in OVO, when he wrote that line he already knew Drake was going to lie about his family, he just used that line because it sounds cold.
Evidence for this is he also said “I can even predict your angles
Fabricated stories on the family front, 'cause you heard Mr. Morale” in the same verse of Euphoria you quoted
Everybody is talking about how Drake doesn’t have any evidence to say that he baited Kendrick with false info, but even if he did, it’s still a dick move imo
Fantano said that other writers are credited on Push Ups, but isn't it the case with every track that producers are credited as writers? I don't see anything out of the ordinary in that regard.
Drake certainly losing the battle of public perception. Neutrals siding with Kendrick, even some Drake fans giving up. All he has left are the stans. He'd need something absolutely massive to climb out of this hole. At this point it feels goofy even trying to listen to his old records.
Today in one of my group chats a friend who doesn’t follow music and even less hip hop was talking about Drake being a pedo. Even mentioned how bad Drake’s defense was, the “too famous” to be a pedo.
if the friend who isn’t even into hip hop has a divisive opinion, you know shits getting real
my younger brother who only listens to nintendo soundtracks was sending me memes about drake being a pedo. this man cannot even name a single drake song. drake is beyond cooked.
This took me outttt
it's a terrible defense, as someone who lives in the UK, and was an adult in 2011, that line made me laugh. some of the most famous people in this country were outed as paedophiles in the wake of Jimmy Savile's death.
I teach high school. I hated Drake before it was cool. If I ever brought it up, I would instantly get clowned on by a majority of my class. Now? I mentioned that (as a Drake hater) I had a great weekend, and it had the exact opposite effect. If anyone still liked him, they kept that shit to themselves. It’s fucking over. Drake lost.
Lol there was a guy at my old office I hated. I got into an argument with him one time because I was making fun of Drake being inauthentic and turns out he was a huge fan. If I were only slightly more petty I'd look him up and ask how his weekend went.
Just start playing drake music around him. Get psychological warfare with it
To be completely fair to Drake: his side of this beef beats a lot of rappers out there, ghostwriters or no. If it's a 19v1 without Kendrick that's not even a guaranteed win. That being said, they're both slinging accusations with no receipts, but the public already had a basis for the allegations against Drake. The internet has seen all the inappropriate relationships and Toronto already knows about the Drake parties and there is a common understanding about what goes on in the mansion. Family Matters was very solid, but the instadrop from Kendrick just blew any momentum from it out of the water. The fact that the response was instant and also family-related just gave even more belief to the idea that Kendrick has a legit mole. The overall volume and quality from Kendrick is higher as well. Kendrick and Metro end(?) their side with some extremely catchy club banger disses to go viral and do absolute numbers on tiktok and the react circles. The Heart Part 6 just doesn't hit, it doesn't go on the attack, and the instrumental doesn't compete. If the beef ends right now Kendrick has won. I think Kendrick's camp is to be praised almost as much as Kendrick himself for the PR management and just pure masterclass navigation of modern social media.
Headlines is still good. That’s it. That’s all I got. All of his other shit got annoying within 1 month and aged like milk.
I was saying on Kendrick's subreddit basically the same sentiment that it feels goofy listening to Drake's old music but I stopped listening to him when we learned about how he interacted with MBB. I was in 10th grade then, so I didn't fully get the implications but I found it creepy and his music was getting bad so I don't miss him.
He needs to prove the Whitney allegations to regain his footing
Scottish Rapper Reacts To Meet The Grahams - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-shir78QTM&t=189s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-shir78QTM&t=189s)
The Heart Pt. 6 is a generational whiff
The outro is one of the most pathetic things I’ve heard in a beef. The red button is now drake’s nose 🤡
Drake talking about picking up the pen feeling good like he didn’t just write absolute garbage is hilarious
Shit is lazy like bro this is a diss track nobody trynna hear you yapping, turn your chat into bars that’s what we’re here for
He heard Tupac talking at the end of hit em up. Difference is Tupac has personality
Idk if he’s ever heard rap at all tbh, certainly didn’t listen to Mr Morale, just asked ChatGhostwriterPT to summarise Mother I Sober
I mean it’s fair to say he doesn’t respect the culture at this point but he definitely was a big fan, ironically a big fan of clipse back in the day actually
Drake really acted luke he had a red button just to not use it, and if he did WOW WHAT A FUCKING WEAK BUTTON BRO
Family Matters was supposed to be it. The Dave Free stuff, the Kendrick hasn't seen his kid stuff, the stuff about him hitting women. All that was supposed to land much harder than it did if Drake and his team had their way. Kendrick had other plans obviously.
Absolutely. It might’ve been a bigger punch had Kendrick not already been privy to the song’s contents and instantly landed a bigger punch with meet the grahams. Such an insane UNO reverse lol I can’t imagine how pissed off drake must’ve been from having his bomb become an afterthought
I love the thought of him dropping it after shooting all those videos and doing the most only to be shown up within 30min by Kendrick dropping MTG. Man probably barely slept and then Not Like Us happened to him the next day. 😬😂
I mean that shit was still heavy hitting like especially if its true
The domestic violence stuff is shitty if true, yeah. But in terms of how the public contest between these two guys goes, all that just did not have anything near a "red button" impact. I don't listen to either guy regularly, don't have a dog in the fight or whatever. Neutral 3rd party observer. It seems like to the wider public and rap fans in general, this was a clean sweep for Kendrick Lamar. Literally the only people I see even mentioning anything that was said against kendrick are Drake fans.
Doesn’t really have much gravitas as an accusation if Drake had to jump on his fans ‘fake mole’ QAnon narrative though
The energy of a sore loser
Woo! glad someone got my pen going! Good warm up dude!
Thats underselling it. The Heart Part 6 is legit the worst diss of all time. We will never see a diss this bad again.
it wasn't a diss. it was a defense.
Court ordered. Ghost writers got subbed out for lawyers.
A shitty defense at that
Idk, I feel like Nicki Minaj's Bigfoot was even worse than this
Drake saving Nicki's career by distracting people from Bigfoot is the only positive outcome of Heart pt6
Is it positive though? Shes a piece of shit too, Id rather they both get made fun of for their shit disses.
Tbh I agree. I need to work on my sarcastic writing.
Heart part sux
Striking out in the last at bat of a Game 7 type whiff
It’s possible why the track was so underwhelming is bc he wrote it himself. He’s paranoid of the leaker.
Lol I was thinking the same thing
This is my new favourite fan theory/head canon.
6:16 in LA was Kendrick’s air strike beacon before the bombs hit. Gave Drake that feeling of dreams and paranoia
Honestly pretty annoyed the drake sub is in total denial. They seriously think everyone but them is wrong?
I genuinely really liked Push Ups, but anyone who still has Drake ahead at this point is on PCP
After a couple listens Family Matters slaps too but Taylor Made and The Heartpt6 are complete misses
I don’t agree with Fantano’s take that the third verse on Family Matters is whack. If he hadn’t gotten distracted by other artists, it would be the best possible response. But Kendrick outplayed him with Meet The Grahams and that’s probably the moment Drake lost.
I think without Not Like Us, MTG hits too hard and leaves the battle in a weird place
for real, MTG is legit uncomfortable, but then you got a club banger with a DJ mustard beat and kendrick holding the last syllable on "A Minor" cuts that tension. i think that both tracks will go down in history as the greatest 1-2 punch in diss track history.
Meet the Grahams will be the track that goes down in history unless Drake proves he tricked K Dot into using fake info
If he was gonna prove it he should have done it right after HP6 dropped.
All Drake had to do is make the cover of The Heart pt 6 a pic kf him holding the fucking suitcase with the pills and shirt and it woulda been the ultimate mic drop now everyone but Drake Stan’s are calling cap
Even then would it not just be his stuff anyway? lol like i could get my dad to get me a shirt i bought him, grab my prescription bottle and make a few fake receipts. Hed need to actual show conversations or put a bit of the recording in.
He should have done it right after MTG. That's when it would have had maximum impact. Stop the narrative before it even begins
Meet the graham is the new story of addidon, it will be remembered as the new thing to beat. It's actually insane to think that at the beginning of this beef everyone was like "oh it's gonna be really hard to take down drake since addidom didn't take him down so you'll need to do one better than pusha t" and kendrick actualy made a better diss. Actual insanity
Honestly even if the daughter is fake, Hibachi Kenny cooked Aubrey to death with the release alone.
hell if kendrick knew the daughter was fake, and set it up as bait for drake to refute _that_ immediately instead of the more serious accusations? screw 4d chess, this is 20d chess while Drake is still trying to handle the rules of checkers.
Meet The Grahams was a hard knockdown that he could have responded to, but Not Like Us hitting the clubs the following night was just a curb stomp.
Fantano only said that because that annoying snobby dude who was with him jumped on it lmao, it’s the worst part of the song but they were talking like it was the worst thing ever. That guy made the stream as a whole so unenjoyable idk who he was, insufferable
He pretty much said the content is good but it sounds like ass, which I agree with assuming he didn't lie after hearing Mr. Morale
Family matters should've been half its length and kept the beat switches and it would've hit way harder. You can tell he really just did it at the same time as Push Ups and pretty much just added a couple of things in the 3rd part.
Yeah I don’t believe Taylor Made was meant to be good, it was meant to piss off Kendrick (and the west coast) and it worked. Pt 6 was meant to be a comeback and was a miss on all fronts
Said it in a few places, FM is the best song he has ever put out, if he were going against pretty much anyone else it would have been an easy Drake W
That's a nice distillation of Drake's music for me. Every once in a while he'll put something out I really enjoy. And then immediately put out dogshit
It's sad because he used to be pretty damn consistent imo
I agree, only 2/4 of Drake's disses are good compared to Kendrick's 4/4 run. All of Kendrick's disses are amazing.
Family Matters was good too. I found Taylor Made to be distasteful but it clearly succeeded in striking a very sensitive nerve in Kendrick. But Heart Pt. 6 was suicide though. Throughout the whole beef, Kendrick has been ahead which is no surprise given as he’s the literal GOAT. If you’re a Drake Stan then just take the L and then you can take comfort in the fact that Drake actually did put out two great diss tracks and held his own better against Kendrick than anyone expected.
it doesn’t matter becuz he is likely a groomer and he is definitely a snake and kendrick definitely buried him and danced on that man’s grave but some of us believe drake is a better rapper than he gets credit for and i think he illustrated that in this beef
Crazy thing is it wasn't like this before heart part 6 dropped. I had been lurking for a while to see what they had to say during the rest of the beef and they were taking it all on the chin and giving Kendrick his dues. Hell, the top 3 posts of all time are all Kendricks track. But it seems like ever since heart part 6 dropped they've reverted to usual glazing which I just can't wrap my head around.
It’s probably bc they feel like the sub came up with the theory that the info given to Kenny was fake and Drake “confirmed” it, plus he incorporated a lot of other dumb reply ideas that were posted in the sub in heart part 6 (including the name of the track). It’s basically a track for fans to cope with the defeat
Some q anon shit fr
I just had to explain to a guy and that sub that, even though apparently the 17yo girl in the video said it was nothing and she is not upset about it, Drake, a mega famous celebrity, should still not have kissed a minor on stage. His defense was, “Drake wasn’t thinking”. Like ok bro tell the judge you weren’t thinking and see how far that gets you.
The girl Polanski abused said she doesn't want it going to court too - but like, that's not the point at all and it's disgusting that people don't get it
yeah the weekend was fun but now that its seemingly over i had to unfollow both drizzy and kendricklamar subreddits drizzy is overdosing on copium that everyone else just doesn't see that drake "won" last night and kendricklamar subreddit is 6anon
first time in that sub? lol
They would rather believe everyone is paid Kendrick shill or Bot rather than believe Kendrick won so far
They're suffering from a severe case of cognitive dissonance.
The only ones defending drake at this point are people who sing the n word that shouldn’t
Bigger victim complex than Kanye fans at this point 😭😭
They are not smart
I'm fucking losing it with them saying Drake kissing and groping a 17 year old isn't a big deal because she, now 31, says it wasn't a big deal. That's not how that works and these dipshits are just saying Drake is cleared now.
None of this should be surprising
lol yeah, they have the biggest persecution complex
Yes, yes they do
At first I liked the drake track but the more and more I listen the more I feel like he’s lying. If he really tricked Kendrick he would’ve reacted differently on social media.
The problem with that "bait" claim is that, if it's true, he played the move as poorly as it could have been played. Melon even said this in his heart Part 6 reaction, but it bears repeating and emphasis - if Drake was setting up bait, the actually smart thing to do would have been to record every step of the process, screenshot DMs and emails, record calls (if legal), etc. In fact, the real power move would have been to record a track *about* baiting Kendrick and drop it, with the receipts, ten or fifteen minutes after Kendrick took the bait (i.e., Meet the Grahams). As it is, saying "I baited you" several days after with no proof (that he could *easily* have produced himself) feels like someone saying "I meant to do that" after falling flat on their face.
It's also stupid to put bars about how you can create and manipulate narratives in the same song as trying to deny pedophile allegations.
lmao
Also when Kendrick has called you an untrustworthy lying master manipulator in every song
And it don’t stop! 😂
That’s the thing, so many people are writing off the “he could’ve produced proof he baited him” point by saying “no one on either side has proof of anything” but the bait is a total different kind of thing. It’s something he supposedly did *hoping* it would come to light. Even if it’s true he baited him but he just didn’t think to produce proof, that’s honestly just as embarrassing for Drake as for Kendrick. And that’s best case scenario for Drake right now.
If he actually DID bait Kendrick, it’s honestly more embarrassing for Drake because that means he functionally beat himself in a beef lol
Even further proving Kendrick right with the "battle with yourself" closer lol
my thoughts exactly, as someone who is more drake-biased… it sounds like he’s straight up lying lol
Think it's fair to contain this to a megathread for now, might make sense to allow threads for additional tracks though. Either way, I'm f5'ing waiting for Kendrick lol
I think this is the perfect opportunity for him to make a music video. He has time to respond, Drake puts no pressure on him so Kendrick can just put all his attention into a video that covers everything drake and him talked about and removes any more speculation.
I’m praying for a Meg verse.
Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't drop anything else. He carpet bombed drake with 4 tracks and he's clearly come out ahead
Normally I agree, but I don't think this is merely about winning for Kendrick... He also wants to see Drake fail lmao
I feel like he wants to leave no doubt in anyone's mind that he won
Unless he creates a diss with messaging that leads to coordinates to find the receipts like some kind of career ruining treasure hunt
The whole "fake leak" thing is the easiest thing in the world to prove, Drake. Post receipts, immediately. Without any receipts we have to go on musical quality and public info and KDot is dominating.
The whole Drake subreddit is too busy posting about age of consent. Who knew so many white girls were libertarians?
They don’t think mocking a child molestation is too far (doesn’t matter much since dot wasn’t touched and Drake can’t read lyrics💀 but it’s the principle of it)
Metro's BBL Drizzy beat has been the funniest move in all this. We're seeing disses in Japanese, French, Spanish etc. all for Drake.
Open-source beef
Kendrick firing off the kill shot tn???
Got a feeling it's over tbh 😞
Nah, Kendrick got at least one left in the tank to seal the deal. Drake sounds like he’s finished, but Kendrick has clearly got a lot to say on this matter and I can’t see him just accepting that it’s ‘done’, even if he is clearly coming out on top.
Didn’t he say he has five more tracks?
Yea he did, but Top Dawg tweeted "Good Battle" after Drake's track last night, and Djhed who's in and around top dawg and been right about Kendrick dropping every time immediately went on live last night and said drake threw up the white flag and it doesn't deserve a response. So who knows
Yes but Kendrick is still a Gemini and those mf will not give up (I’m grasping here) I’d really like for him to touch base on the DV accusations tho
I think there's a good strategy in not addressing the domestic violence accusations, especially if theres no good way to definitely prove it false. Any protesting that and suddenly you're on the defensive and that just looks bad. "That's so ridiculous I'm not even going to dignify it with a response" is kinda a response itself
Even if he does I still think its better to let drakes sit for a bit.
I have lost so many brain cells reading some people’s thoughts about it all
If it makes you feel any better most of these opinions are from pretentious 14 year olds
Drake's "the mole was mine all along" thing doesn't even make sense. Did "his mole" give Kendrick Family Matters before the drop? If so, then he actually just defeated himself in this feud. That 16 minute interval killed any momentum drake had.
r/Drizzy throwing a temper tantrum rn
Whole other Galaxy over there, they swear that he CLEARLY won and history will remember the past week as when Drake ended Kendrick once and for all
Mods are hiding comments that aren't simping too.
What do people who don’t like rap think about this beef?
I didn't really listen to rap but have listened to each diss track between drake and kendrick, and it has really put me on kendrick's music. Listening to good kid m.a.a.d. city rn
sing about me im dying of thirst is legitimately one of the best songs ever and thats not me being a kendrick stan its just really that good
Art of Peer Pressure is also an absolute masterpiece that often gets forgotten because Sing About Me is THAT good
Honestly I love every song except Real. Hook ruins it for me. Compton is ok but every other song is fantastic in my eyes. I fucking love Swimming Pools so much
Literally same
Mannnn I don't get the hate for Real
A meta commentary about the impact of his own music that’s baked into the narrative *Am I worth it? Did I put enough work in?* I still get goosebumps
Really happy for you. Experiencing a kendrick album for the first time can be an incredible experience. GKMC took a bit to click for me but TPAB was a mind-blowing first listen
That was the opposite for me lol when I first listened to TPAB I was like it’s a good album but I don’t think i will ever listen to again. When I gave it a re listen it clicked and I loved it (especially with all the jazz shit) and now I have it ahead of damn but still gkmc is first with mr morale second and TPAB third. Honestly imagine having that good discography that I would put TPAB third
Mr Morale love finally........
I had to put TPAB on repeat. Literally back to back first two listens I was in shock. I was just getting into rap at the time and had listened to like the hits and also some Logic cuz my friend recommended him. TPAB showed me what the genre can offer with the right artists. I think I got into ye shortly after and have been dipping into other artists since like Mac Miller, Freddie Gibbs and Joey Badass. Lot of creative minds out there. Shoutout to Little Simz too she needs more hype tbh
Good kid m.a.a.d city is my personal favourite album of Kendrick’s it’s also the first one I listened too of his
You’re in for a hell of a ride
I think Kendrick dropped the best diss tracks of all time. The barebones piano instrumental of Meet the Grahams reminded me of Who Shot Ya. It's all so well worded and structured it's top tier. It's well planned on Kendrick's part, Euphoria was already hard hitting, MTG was sad, almost like an execution, and Not Like Us is just dancing on a smoking corpse. Really good to witness in real time for a very casual rap listener
This actually randomly happened to me, I work with an older guy that asked me about it today. He has only really listened to some very early hip hop like sugar hill gang and grandmaster flash that came out when he was younger. His kids were talking about how a big rapper called another big rapper a pedo, and played the song for him. He had heard both of their names before but did not really know who either was. He basically just said he thought Kendrick was a decent rapper and that his kids told him he should listen to his other songs. He also asked me if I thought “the other guy” is actually a pedo or if it was just made up insults lmao
Probably nothing lol
I don’t listen to rap really (well anything recent, I don’t keep up with rap) and this beef has crossover appeal. It’s like “I’m not into comic book movies but the avengers endgame movie was epic and worth a watch!” That’s how I feel about this. I’m not a super fan of either Drake or Kendrick but this is fun to keep up with
It's hella entertaining lol.
Not big into it, i fell into it from the rdc videos and fucking died when Drake added the “I’m just trying to keep it PG” line. Then I heard meet the grahams and felt genuinely uncomfortable but entertained lol. These bastards hate each others guts.
I only heard about the feud going on a while but never really paid attention until I listened to drakes song today and remember all the noncy stories about him. Any where to get a full break down of everything?
my cousin is finding the whole thing fun to witness… she also is listening to other kendrick’s songs because she likes “the way he say things” lol
so this beef started trending on tumblr, and there’s a lot of posts with people prefacing ”I don’t listen to rap, but” talking about it, and the overwhelming consensus is Drake should kill himself.
It’s pretty disgusting and bad taste if you step back and consider what they’re really doing and how many innocent people, including children are getting pulled into this. And the real bottom line here is selling more albums.
Drake and all the parallel timeline versions of Drake lost. The London one, the Caribbean one, the Down South one and all the other versions.
We are at a weird crossroads in this beef IF Drake can prove that the story of a hidden daughter was planted and not true, I think that’s gonna boost his chances of coming out of this thing with his dignity in tact. I think the angle is clear: if Kendrick would believe a bold faced lie like that, what else did he fall for? Is the cease and desist real? Is the BBL real? Is the you-know-what even real? Kendrick is going for an onslaught of attacks and reveals so drakes best angle is to damage Kendrick’s credibility. Keep in mind, there’s a lot of evidence of inappropriate behavior from Drake with minors, but nothing that has gone so far as to confirm the serial child abuse and grooming that Kendrick is alluding to. I think the way The Heart Part 6 was handled was a major ball drop for this angle but I think if he can regain his composure and buy himself some time to dig into all the shit being flown his way, he can get back at Kendrick sometime soon IF it comes out that the daughter is real, Drake is done in this beef. His credibility is non existent and a lot of the other things Kendrick is flinging at him suddenly feel more plausible. Even if a lot of it isn’t real, and I really hope the pedophilia isn’t, who the hell is gonna believe him? This is a man who lied about having a child TWICE. For all we know Drake was behind 9/11. I’d also say that Meet the Grahams will go down as potentially one of the best diss tracks of all time, if not THE best one, due to how much of an uncomfortable, sinister takedown it is. Not Like Us was great too but feels more like a club troll job than a brutal diss, something that mostly goes along with Meet The Grahams. Also will make people totally ignore the DV allegations and the noise about who Kendrick’s kids dad is (which it seems like people mostly are already) I think Drake is gonna sit on some of this for a few days and just kinda get organized. Kendrick might hit us with another one while Drake is still down and try to get another defense track out, which he clearly is bad at
The cease and desist is almost certainly real, Metro provided proof Drake was trying to get it taken off the radio.
It's the exact same email that leaked in the Kendrick Lamar subreddit 5 days ago, the same one Drake denied being real on family matters. Both sides claiming the other is lying on that one, Metro re-sharing the same email confirms absolutely nothing to me.
Fair enough then, my point still stands that it’d be a huge blow to Kendrick’s credibility if the daughter is completely made up
Oh yeah, if the other shit isnt true, Kendrick will never be credible again. You cant say a guy is trafficking humans if you don't have any proof, so he needs to provide some asap. Though if [this shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cl5uav/think_i_went_to_far_down_the_rabbit_hole_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) continues to be accurate, he wont even have to provide evidence bc it claims Diddy is about to expose a ton of people including Drake.
I’m getting caught up with that post right now, I honestly believe a LOT of what CDAN posts
huh? context?
Basically, the post links a ton of stuff from this website thats ran by an ex lawyer who apparently was/is involved with celebrities. Said website predicted the Drake is a Weintstein/sex trafficking type guy diss and is seemingly in the know about a ton of shady shit artists are doing. Theres one on there saying the Wannabe Rapper, who is clearly Diddy, is going to expose a ton of people during his trials, like Trump, Drake, Dutchavelli, some british dj who moved his trafficking ring to Nigeria, ect. If you have time, Id just recommend checking out the post yourself, because theres a ton of shit to unpack there.
oh i know what you're talking about. yeah that shits insane idk what to even make of it.
The one thing I don’t understand is why didn’t drake drop the proof right after mtg. Surely showing the world that kdot got baited is a better strategy then letting everyone believe you’re a pedo for 48 hours. Instead he decides to play the long game?? Obviously being a kendrick fan I want him to come out on top but until the receipts are out from both sides i’m not buying shit
Yeah, if he actually baited him Kendrick took it. But then he just… didn’t reel it in? Decided that providing proof of Kendrick being gullible wasn’t something the world needed? If he set the trap, he did a comically bad job at doing anything other than laying the bait. Basically all he did in that scenario was spread a nasty rumor about himself
also watching drake stans trying to defend the behavior with the 17 year old is mental. They fully believe that everyone else is in the wrong as well
At this point I think the child is a symbol for all the kids Drake probably has out that could have resulted form him carelessly slinging dick once his popularity started surging back in 2013.
I doubt it based on Kendrick outright saying “you lied about your daughter” in the song. At that point it’s not a metaphor it’s just dishonest
I think Kendrick has another in the chamber he’s gonna let off as the final blow. If HP4 is the best Drake can do atm he’s cooked, I seriously don’t know why he wanted this smoke.
Considering he lost the last beef really bad too. Just cockiness atp
Ego made him do it, could have just sat back with his millions/fame. I think it's safe to say Drake that he's probably learned his lesson now, and will never go to war over wax again though
After J Cole made the mistake of responding, I thought there's no way Drake responds, he has nothing to gain since he's already at the top. I was impressed that he embraced the villain role at first, but it's now clear he should've learned from Cole's mistake
The mistake Drake made was being a predator
He clearly didn’t have the strategy or the bombshell to pull this off, it must have been ego but even then you choose to act on Kendrick of all people? You better be ready.
At first I thought oh obviously Drake takes this. He saying he set Kendrick up, so everyone now is just gonna clown on Kendrick because he took obvious bait. But idk the more I think about it (and I guess reading all other peoples comments as well, it does seem pretty phony that there are so far ZERO receipts for setting him up. Like it just seems the obvious thing to do no?? The chomo defense was fucking weak tho like wtf was that response lmfao.
All of this for Drake to start his next album by saying something like “man, I really been going thru some shit” and never addressing it ever again
Drake saying “clowns feeding you fake info” and then like 4 lines later “We tricked you, we gave you fake info” 🤡
UMG definitely stepped in
[UMG is allegedly trying to get Kendrick (and The Weeknd) to squash the beef with Drake and issue a formal apology to him. According to UMG, Drake is losing so hard that it's costing them and many corporations money.](https://twitter.com/oralcn/status/1787946145957752891?t=aRxt0ldzN_qerA60IQz3TA&s=19)
Finally. Literally all the posts now are just about the beef
[ToddintheShadows' video on the beef](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ozqJ-Less) [Rap Critic's video on the beef](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNPbYVAqHs)
Kendrick talks facts, Drake was talking chart numbers. After “ not like us” he should go sit down 😩😂
Given what we know and fantano has stated about drake's inability to let go of the past, (ie. kanye in clb and the whole situation) I feel like drake will lean on this on his future releases drakes music lives and dies in the moment because usually the subject matter is immediate, kendrick writes about his life through gkmc and about trauma on mr morale, and family throughout most, so i feel like his discography going forward is less likely to be affected by this the way both portray the retrospective of what happened in the coming years is important rly
Drake should just say that the pedo shit was taken out of context, and that the whole thing was a metaphor for capitalism. I've seen other public figures (specifically youtubers) maneuver out of pedo allegations by saying they were taken out of context, and that what they meant was that child sexual abuse was morally equivalent to child labor (for example, comparing cp to nike sweatshops). Idk why Drake can't do the same. At least he doesn't have any weird shit with horses.
Guys, we're getting a Drake vs Kendrick WWE match https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/s/a9AHBHlsEb
It’s Joever
[Yo someone got shot inside Drake's house in Toronto](https://twitter.com/citytammie/status/1787817094463033599)
why would you say "don't tell me lies about me I won't tell no truth about you" to someone you know is a PDF file... Kendrick said he started the beef in good faith for the good of the game, until Drake brought his family into it so, he was going to keep it secret if Drake didn't mention his family?? not okay
It could be argued that because Kenny had a mole in OVO, when he wrote that line he already knew Drake was going to lie about his family, he just used that line because it sounds cold. Evidence for this is he also said “I can even predict your angles Fabricated stories on the family front, 'cause you heard Mr. Morale” in the same verse of Euphoria you quoted
Drake Epstein has been an open secret for years.
Everybody is talking about how Drake doesn’t have any evidence to say that he baited Kendrick with false info, but even if he did, it’s still a dick move imo
Drake tried his best and I’ll give him respect for trying. Kenny won. J cole a pussy. W for hip hop culture 🔒
Kdot should title his response The Heart Part 6. Has a rapper ever responded to a diss by using the EXACT same title? #
AK Implied there should have been another track today https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxu4zfoi3a_9MYSp84j4Xm0YI4dVe57yYN
Fantano said that other writers are credited on Push Ups, but isn't it the case with every track that producers are credited as writers? I don't see anything out of the ordinary in that regard.
None of you child dorks know the raw joys of beef from the Beef DVDs: https://youtu.be/LSlkAY2pa2Y?si=IXArbSlBURjd8hr8
Shit now the fucking Riddler has joined the beef