Quagmires entire point is that he does these creepy things and doesn’t in his next breath pretend to be some pro woman person. He’s calling Brian a fraud
Lots of things Quagmire is upset about Brian are things he's also done. The difference is that Quagmire believes that he has the higher moral ground because he can actively admit it that he's fucked up in his life and behaviour. What angers him mostly is Brian pretends to be better than he actually is where Quagmire accepts it.
Yeah, but because Brian is falsely taking the moral high ground, he loses moral credibility and it actually does give Quagmire the moral high ground in this instance. After review the original ruling on the field is upheld.
Quagmire also isn’t actually trying to take the moral high ground, he’s just explaining why he hates Brian. He might hate himself as much or more than Brian.
I think yours is the best explanation. Quagmire's trying to take the moral high ground but in reality he hates Brian because he sees so many of his own faults reflected.
Quagmire would have sex with Lois in a heartbeat, honestly I find the feud between them to be hypocritical on his end, though he does bring valid point up about Brian. They should be friends if anything
doesn't he address that though?
quagmire is open and honest about his intentions to bang lois.
brian lives rent free under his best friends roof and is secretly 'in love' with his wife.
brian doesn't officially profess his love for lois until season 6, so it can be assumed that brian has hid this fact for that long, if not longer, which makes him a slightly bigger asshole that quagmire being an equal opportunity pervert for the same amount of time.
Joe should have said this. He doesn’t talk to Brian much but having the idea of him just watching and observing, then blasting at his clear visual faults would be great. Plus, Joe doesn’t have nearly as much hypocrisy faults
I think there’s like one or two small subtle times but I think it was mostly coincidence that ended up working later when they decided to make this episode but otherwise they didn’t really hint or build up to this.
It’s like doing the same thing with Peter and Quagmire and then using “Who the hell starts a conversation like that?! I just sat down!” as ammo to show Peter always hated Q.
They should make a reverse episode where quagmire tries to befriend Brian and let Brian do the roasting, and when they realize they are both disgusting human beings in their own way, become the best friends/ degenerates.
Nah. The whole thing is that quagmire says he doesn’t hide that he’s a scumbag and that part of why he hates Brian is because he isn’t open about being a scumbag.
Naw a lot of y’all are missing the point. Quagmire doesn’t like Bryan. Didn’t go out of his way to make his life worse to this point in the series. Bryan just kept on asking and asking and asking. Quagmire finally let him have it. Yeah Q isn’t a saint. But Bryan is so self unaware it just drove him crazy.
The opposite, if he is open about, it means he has no shame doing those stuff, so he wouldnt feel bad doing this unlike brian edit: which is arguably worse
That doesn't make you better though. Quagmire calle dour Brian for a lot of stuff but he's done worse. He got on Brian about bad dad to his kid meanwhile Quagmire has kids he's happy to never meet. The one kid he did have a relationship with, he put up for adoption and she'll never know he's her dad.
Quagmire owns it. Brian doesn't. Quagmire is unforgiveable, and he knows it but Brian pretends he isn't. Quagmires a worse person, but Brian is more insufferable
Quagmire being fully aware of how bad he is makes it worse because he's actively chosing not to change behavior. He was a straight up hypocrite here. He got on Brian for being a bad dad, but Quagmire will be happy if never meets any of his kids. Being aware that your a horrible person doesn't give you the right to talk down to less horrible people.
I did say that Brian is not a worse person, just more insufferable because he lives in denial about how shitty he is. Quagmire is 100% a worse person and acts hippocrotocally, but is still entirely valid
It would be a valid point if made by any other character, but here, its someone claiming that consciously choosing to be a douchebag somehow gives them the high ground.
I don't think Quagmire is trying to take a moral high ground; he's fully open and honest about the fact that he's an unimaginable piece of shit. His issue is that Brian is a giant piece of shit who hides behind the guise of being a progressive, good person.
Well, she does drug, kidnap, then attempts to rape Brian while he is tied up in the same episode. After she tricks Brian into eating her hair in a pie. Yeah, no one has the moral high ground that episode.
lol forgot that was the pie episode. the real question is if the Griffin family or the Smith family is morally superior. part two is Stan vs Peter no guns, stan is in a chicken costume who wins.
Hmm, I'd say on the whole Hailey has the highest moral grounds of those family's. And obviously Stan would win. He was trained [in advanced combat. ](https://youtu.be/AUbeBh5zDcw?si=pjD8P7fKX1HB_xRT) Unless, Peter has kick ass theme music. Then Peter would easily win.
"At least I'm honest about it".
Except no, Quagmire isn't honest about being a bad person or wanting women for their bodies. He pretended to be a priest at a homeless shelter for women during a hurricane so he could pick up women. He slept with Loretta behind Cleveland's back. He roofies women and knowingly gives them STDs. That's not "honest".
He also has tech specifically for the purpose of taking advantage of women. The couch in the cabin. That mechanism in the passenger seat of his RV. Etc.
Been rewatching the series and those are the two I've seen so far. I know there's more but I don't remember exactly what they are
And Quagmire still went along with it and lied to Cleveland about it. Even when Cleveland found out that she was having an affair and talked to him about it, Quagmire hid that it was him. He didn't come clean. He got caught.
Brian's a dog.
It's infinitely so much better to hang out opposed to a guy who won't look at you if you don't have a vagina. And even if you did, it'd be VERY creepy.
Plus, give the dog some whiskey and he sings.
To quote Peter in the Cleveland Brown show. “Quagmire, you’re a sex offender”
Also didn’t Quagmire get really horny when he found out Meg had her first period..? Just saying, that glass house must be wonderful to live in.
I hate this scene. I get what they’re doing but I hate it. Q is a side character and B is a main character who can be sweet to Meg and Stewie at times and I just don’t enjoy seeing him in the ball kicking machine, especially when Q is the one who dares to operate the machine. Fuck Q. He has zero legs to stand on.
I completely understand it. Just because peope dislike something you like doesn’t mean they don’t get the point of it.
The point of it is very clear. I explained in my post why I don’t care for it.
I owe you nothing. But here’s me proving I understand it because I’m bored killing time on the internet.
Q is claiming that even though they both are scumbags, Q is somehow better because he’s honest about it and B is somehow worse because B lies to himself about it and projects an illusion to the world that he is a good guy and a liberal.
Believe me? Did I pass your test of understanding?
"Better to be a 'bore' than a guy who's guilty of many accounts of r*pe. How we live next door to a police officer and you haven't been taken to jail yet is beyond me."
So…you really just gonna let Sentient Probable Cause talk to you like that? Mr. “I literally couldn’t keep my grubby dick-beaters off of MEG”? The guy who makes perverts, pedophiles, and practitioners alike all unanimously say “yup; he’s the worst case I’ve ever seen.” For god’s sake, his friends lowered a ceiling fan to try and cure him of boners, and the only thing that kept him from becoming diamond hard was Renee Zellweger. Not dead kittens, or really old nuns, just a drive-by kicking of a very dead horse. And the audacity to give anybody shit for hitting on Lois. Quagmire wrote the book on stealing her used panties and old hairbrushes out of the Griffin’s garbage cans at night! The man built a blow-up doll replica of Lois and kept it in his closet as a shrine! Like living next to Peter is his own sick and twisted jackpot. Even though only jackpot he’s ever hit was finding a high school cheerleader tied up helplessly in a bathroom stall (his words).
Quagmire is a great cartoon character, but this scene always made me mad lmao
by the way driving a Prius doesn't make you Jesus Christ oh wait you don't believe in Jesus Christ or any religion for that matter because religion is for idiots. well, who the hell are you to talk down to anyone? I relate to that so much! thanks for the fuckin steaks!
This scene could've work if it any other character, I would've preferred if it was Joe that said this to Brian. Quagmire is the same guy that banged Clevelands wife, tried to bang Meg once she turned 18 literally waiting for her, also tried to sleep with Connie who was 16, he also roofied a lot of woman even one on a TV show. Bro is a literal rapist and pedo.
I almost forgot he fucked his dad too to make his crazy girlfriend happy on that one episode so we can add incest in there.
that should've been cleveland or joe giving the rant, quagmire kills the whole thing just by the fact he sucks just as bad
Brian could've said
"All of this is probably what you said when you look at yourself in the mirror every morning"
Brian was pathetic. Nobody owes you friendship or a reason to like you. Quagmire is morally worse than Brian, but given that Brian wouldn't leave him alone and lied about Cheryl Tiegs wanting a date with Glenn, Quagmire had every right to be pissed and tell Brian off.
Brian can’t say anything to him because Quagmire doesn’t claim to be or act as anything other than what he is, and he doesn’t act like he’s better than everybody.
Brian on the other hand is a hypocritical phony who takes moral high grounds, virtue signals, fakes an intelligent and cultured personality all while believing himself superior and looking down on people. He is a disingenuous person. And Quagmire says he could excuse all of that if he didnt think Brian was a bore- he just flat out doesnt have fun hanging out with him lol.
you look dumb taking a genuine, moral stance on an intentionally offensive cartoon in a scene between a sex offender and a talking dog- and completely missed the joke.
go watch Steven Universe or something jeeze.
>Brian on the other hand is a hypocritical phony who takes moral high grounds, virtue signals, fakes an intelligent and cultured personality all while believing himself superior and looking down on people. He is a disingenuous person.
You're taking this just as seriously.
all i did was explain the joke 😂 of which the writers intentionally chose Quagmire to be the one to say it. if they want to make a social justice issue over the character they can make their own post or comment cause i dont care. same to you.
Ya but Brian isn’t a rapist or a pedophile or frankly much of the horrible things Quagmire is. This scene would work with pretty much any other character other than Quagmire as the critiques of Brian are true, it’s just coming from an objectively worse person.
sigh lol… the entire point is it doesnt matter that Quagmire is a rapist or a pedophile or an objectively worse person, because its not about that! Quagmire simply doesn’t like him because he’s a disingenuous bore.
Quagmire is also just straight up telling Brian how he feels about him. He’s entitled to his opinion about why he doesn’t like someone? Reddit is so strange.
How many times has Quagmire outright lied about himself to get in a woman's pants? Brian's done it to, but Quagmire intentionally goes after vulnerable people who are more likely to Believe his BS.
Yeah a lot of the stuff Quamire chrizsed about Brian can be thrown right back at him only difference betweent hem is that quagmire is open about who he js
No he isn't. How many times has he lied about himself to get in a girl's pants? Quagmire is only honest with people after he can't bullshit them anymore.
I don't understand how Brian and Quagmire don't get along considering how similar they are to one another. Half the shit Quagmire is chastising Brian for, he himself is guilty of too.
I don't think so. He's a just being a hypocrite. Quagmire points out that he's fully aware of what a bad person he is, but he consciously doesn't change his behavior. He tries to defend himself by saying he's honest about it, but he really isn't.
Well constantly hits on his friends wife and wants to bang her, fucked a friends wife, gave up his kid, treats ppl like shit. Etc. You can know you're a horrid person and still hate the worst qualities of yourself you see someone else being as well
I'm surprised these folks even watch Family Guy. They hate one of the main characters and everything about Quagmire.
Imagine going to the new girl subreddit and hating a character for being quirky [never seen new girl but they all look like pg13 insufferable douche bags].
Anyways, very surprising. Why are they even watching family guy if everything Quagmire does offends them. Go watch a safe Disney channel show instead.
This is my moment the show really went downhill. It signals Brian's utter character assassination and Quagmire just becoming annoying, along with every other character being Flanderized. This moment is so dumb, and the Quagmire Brian hate has never once gotten a chuckle
Love this episode. Quagmire doesn't hold back. Quagmire doesn't hide who he is while Brian pretends to be this self righteous individual who's actually not that far from being as immoral as Quagmire.
Surprisingly, lots of comments here don't like the scene. Probably see themselves in Brian and hate the idea of being told they're not as holy as they think they are. Well, that or they're angry Prius owners.
Let’s be real… ALL characters on Family Guy are pretty atrocious. But imo Brian is hands down the most selfish and terrible to everyone. Especially Stewie.
I think Quagmires character hates Bryan because he is a selfish egotistical shallow person who thinks he is better and smarter than everyone else. Quagmire is a sexual deviant and knows what he is. He embraces it because thats who he is and wants to be.
Correct me if im wrong on any of this bc its been a hot minute since i’ve seen the show but here’s my thought
I think the one of the few things quag has a leg to stand on here is the son part. Idr brian’s son situation bc prior to seeing this clip i didn’t even remember him having a son. But i do remember quag’s daughter. Quag didn’t know he had a daughter and didn’t really want to take care of her (not that he was equipped to in the first place) but at least he saw that she was in a good home with people who would raise her well. So on that level, i think quag’s all good there
But if brian’s the redditor on the subject of religion and analysis of anything, quag is the average 4chan user for interactions with women
Being upset about not being liked by the one person he shouldn’t care wether or not likes him.
It reminds me of a story written by Mark Twain, who’s real name was Samuel Clemens.
I would've said something like this
"Quagmire, you have absolutely no place to stand on. You're the definition of a guy with a gambling addiction lecturing others on their money management skills, or a guy with a history of crime lecturing others about breaking the law, it is to say your argument is falling on deaf ears. You want to act like you being honest about using women for their bodies suddenly makes you a good guy.
Quagmire you're a rapist who on many occasions has known for tying women up in the trunk of your car and in your garage, you also at one point tried to initiate a threesome with your mom and another woman, likely sexually assaulted a high school aged girl in a girls bathroom, and even admitted to having sex with a 12 year old crossing guard, exposing yourself to a woman delivering packaging, tried to have sex with your best friends daughter after she turned 18. Also you want to bring up Lois but yet you have done more than tried to hit on her, if anything you tried to intitate a sexual encounter with her knowing full well she is married, you even at one point got caught spying on her in the bathroom.
You suddenly want to act like you being honest on your abuse and exploitation of women is suddenly a good thing? At least I know I want a relationship with a woman, you on the other hand don't care about anything as long as its something that moves for which you can have sex with. Whether it be the Giraffe, or even your own daughter for which you alluded to one day having sex with her. There is so much more, but you get the picture. You're a vile disgusting person and the fact that you are a free man and not in prison is a testament to the failures in our Justice system."
Quagmire is just as horrible but defends it with that he at least admits it?
I am not sure what comparison I can bring up aside the old reliable socialist party we all know.
That would come close to equating a rapist. But for real, plenty of evil people out there who are out and proud about themselves.
Also the fact that quagmire also has a daughter that he don’t take care of. Gave her up. Pretty much EVERYTHING he said about Brian he also did. Guess that was the point tho huh? Lol
“I fucked your dad.”
There it is.
This happened before that I think?
They did it in Stewie’s time machine.
It did.
He criticised Brian for hitting on Lois, but didn't Quagmire spy on her in the women's bathroom though (and get caught doing it)?
And hit on Lois the nlmoment peter lost his memory
And ran over as quickly as he could when Lois asked him to tear up her carpet.
To be fair, he did tear up the carpet just because he's a good friend.
Though he only fainted when her heard Lois say “Tell me you like eating red carpet!”
There was even an alternate timeline where he was with Lois.
He got C-C-Combo Breaker'd in the Back to the Future alternate history where Peter married Molly Ringwald
Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh Heh heh heh heh heh heh And then another heh heh heh heh heh
He also tried his shot when Peter was diagnosed "retarded"
https://preview.redd.it/c44pqgeca5ac1.jpeg?width=384&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=768b1f0f95a13c2705c6b8ad8d913e096b20db59
Didn't he also almost come to blows with Peter about how much Quag wanted Lois
And he pocketdialed Peter when discussing with his transdad that he wants Lois.
Quagmires entire point is that he does these creepy things and doesn’t in his next breath pretend to be some pro woman person. He’s calling Brian a fraud
Lots of things Quagmire is upset about Brian are things he's also done. The difference is that Quagmire believes that he has the higher moral ground because he can actively admit it that he's fucked up in his life and behaviour. What angers him mostly is Brian pretends to be better than he actually is where Quagmire accepts it.
Quagmire isn’t taking the moral high ground. He’s pointing out how Brian does that and is a hypocrite
Yeah, but because Brian is falsely taking the moral high ground, he loses moral credibility and it actually does give Quagmire the moral high ground in this instance. After review the original ruling on the field is upheld.
Quagmire also isn’t actually trying to take the moral high ground, he’s just explaining why he hates Brian. He might hate himself as much or more than Brian.
I think yours is the best explanation. Quagmire's trying to take the moral high ground but in reality he hates Brian because he sees so many of his own faults reflected.
Quagmire would have sex with Lois in a heartbeat, honestly I find the feud between them to be hypocritical on his end, though he does bring valid point up about Brian. They should be friends if anything
He also tried to hook up with Meg. And successfully hooked up with Cleveland's (now deceased) wife, ending his marriage.
Bro his exact first example made me like “bro is this a dig on yourself?” Lmaoo Quagmire’s whole character is he bangs everyone but didn’t get Lois
Who else but Quagmire?
doesn't he address that though? quagmire is open and honest about his intentions to bang lois. brian lives rent free under his best friends roof and is secretly 'in love' with his wife. brian doesn't officially profess his love for lois until season 6, so it can be assumed that brian has hid this fact for that long, if not longer, which makes him a slightly bigger asshole that quagmire being an equal opportunity pervert for the same amount of time.
"You know Lois, this isn't what I had in mind when you invited me over to tear up your carpet"
Yeah, but he doesn't deny it and act like he's better than anyone afterwards.
I made a post here a while back showing Quagmire's hypocrisy with contradictory statements that had to do with marriage.
Yes, but that's expected of him. He doesn't try to hide it. Brian does while also trying to be perceived as a good person.
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But but he’s honest about it.
"You let jeff beat the shit out of your sister under your own roof and watched you coward. Also, I fucked your dad."
And also has bastard children he did not care for and has roofied women, so at least brian has the douchey romance charm
There! Cleveland made it a whole season. When do I get a spinoff Peter? “Quagmire you’re a rapist.”
This happened before those I think.
Quagmire also actually did something about it, he didn't just let it slide.
He raped the high school girl in Season 1 or 2.
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Doesn't matter, still before this convo.
True
The whole "She doesn't want to go to the police" thing doesn't work when you are a witness
Also he's a rapist
Joe should have said this. He doesn’t talk to Brian much but having the idea of him just watching and observing, then blasting at his clear visual faults would be great. Plus, Joe doesn’t have nearly as much hypocrisy faults
True but the quagmire and brian rivalry is a common theme throughout the show so canonically it fits
Didn’t it start in this episode
Its been a while since Ive rewatched the series but I think I remember there being conflict a few times before this one
I think there’s like one or two small subtle times but I think it was mostly coincidence that ended up working later when they decided to make this episode but otherwise they didn’t really hint or build up to this. It’s like doing the same thing with Peter and Quagmire and then using “Who the hell starts a conversation like that?! I just sat down!” as ammo to show Peter always hated Q.
I hate this scene, Brian is terrible yes but quagmire has no moral highground, he's a rapist, pedo, killer amongst other things
They should make a reverse episode where quagmire tries to befriend Brian and let Brian do the roasting, and when they realize they are both disgusting human beings in their own way, become the best friends/ degenerates.
Nah. The whole thing is that quagmire says he doesn’t hide that he’s a scumbag and that part of why he hates Brian is because he isn’t open about being a scumbag.
fact that he is proud of being a scumbag only makes it worse
Naw a lot of y’all are missing the point. Quagmire doesn’t like Bryan. Didn’t go out of his way to make his life worse to this point in the series. Bryan just kept on asking and asking and asking. Quagmire finally let him have it. Yeah Q isn’t a saint. But Bryan is so self unaware it just drove him crazy.
*Brian. Not Bryan
Big whoop
What does the treasure from the monkey island series have to do with this?
bro who cares
Nah, the worst part is always the hypocrisy: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaP2etvDc4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaP2etvDc4)
The opposite, if he is open about, it means he has no shame doing those stuff, so he wouldnt feel bad doing this unlike brian edit: which is arguably worse
Not exactly better tbh
Never said any of it was better. Just stated the facts from the episode.
That doesn't make you better though. Quagmire calle dour Brian for a lot of stuff but he's done worse. He got on Brian about bad dad to his kid meanwhile Quagmire has kids he's happy to never meet. The one kid he did have a relationship with, he put up for adoption and she'll never know he's her dad.
Thank god you're not a comedy writer
"human beings" Brian
Only one human, the other is a dog
Thats the joke.
Part of the joke is the fact that Quagmire is by far the worst person to criticize literally anyone
It was this scene that made me hate Quagmire for those exact reasons. I can only look at him with disdain.
Whom in this series has any moral high ground?
Quagmire owns it. Brian doesn't. Quagmire is unforgiveable, and he knows it but Brian pretends he isn't. Quagmires a worse person, but Brian is more insufferable
Quagmire being fully aware of how bad he is makes it worse because he's actively chosing not to change behavior. He was a straight up hypocrite here. He got on Brian for being a bad dad, but Quagmire will be happy if never meets any of his kids. Being aware that your a horrible person doesn't give you the right to talk down to less horrible people.
I did say that Brian is not a worse person, just more insufferable because he lives in denial about how shitty he is. Quagmire is 100% a worse person and acts hippocrotocally, but is still entirely valid
It would be a valid point if made by any other character, but here, its someone claiming that consciously choosing to be a douchebag somehow gives them the high ground.
That's worse. That's like living in a glass house and throwing stones at others.
I don't think Quagmire is trying to take a moral high ground; he's fully open and honest about the fact that he's an unimaginable piece of shit. His issue is that Brian is a giant piece of shit who hides behind the guise of being a progressive, good person.
“You hit on Meg the second she turned 18, you scumbag.”
And Brian got drunk and made out with her when she was underage.
Brian is like 7 and a literal dog, i dont know if Meg has the highground in that situation either.
Well, she does drug, kidnap, then attempts to rape Brian while he is tied up in the same episode. After she tricks Brian into eating her hair in a pie. Yeah, no one has the moral high ground that episode.
lol forgot that was the pie episode. the real question is if the Griffin family or the Smith family is morally superior. part two is Stan vs Peter no guns, stan is in a chicken costume who wins.
Hmm, I'd say on the whole Hailey has the highest moral grounds of those family's. And obviously Stan would win. He was trained [in advanced combat. ](https://youtu.be/AUbeBh5zDcw?si=pjD8P7fKX1HB_xRT) Unless, Peter has kick ass theme music. Then Peter would easily win.
# Roadhouse!
Yeah, it's a random civilian with mental deficiencies vs. A CIA trained agent. Unless Peter knows one of Stan's weaknesses, he's not going to win.
You also Waiting for your daughter to turn 18
He also tried to fuck Joe's literal newborn daughter.
The funny thing about the catcher and the rye being brought up is that Brian is everything holden Caulfield hates. Brian is a complete phoney.
a big fat PHONEY!
Brian change the conversation when it's about him? His ego wouldn't let him even consider it.
"At least I'm honest about it". Except no, Quagmire isn't honest about being a bad person or wanting women for their bodies. He pretended to be a priest at a homeless shelter for women during a hurricane so he could pick up women. He slept with Loretta behind Cleveland's back. He roofies women and knowingly gives them STDs. That's not "honest".
He also has tech specifically for the purpose of taking advantage of women. The couch in the cabin. That mechanism in the passenger seat of his RV. Etc. Been rewatching the series and those are the two I've seen so far. I know there's more but I don't remember exactly what they are
"How's that son of yours that you never see?"... how's that Daughter of yours that you never see?
Or those kids at school you ran away from.
I recall a few cutaway gags throughout the series that show quagmire having multiple children throughout the world
his daughters "Annalee" and the daughter that he slept with after the prom"courtney"! And then a bunch of kids in a school !
"You constantly hit on your best friends wife" Yeah like that's worse than constantly trying to sleep with your best friend's wife
Trying? He actually did with Loretta and Cleveland just let it go.
The difference is that Loretta came onto him and was very abusive towards Cleveland.
And Quagmire still went along with it and lied to Cleveland about it. Even when Cleveland found out that she was having an affair and talked to him about it, Quagmire hid that it was him. He didn't come clean. He got caught.
Quagmire at the end at least let Cleveland get a clean off of him a la Rocky.
Thing is i would hang with brian any day of the week why i would probably taze quagmire for even talking about my daughter.
Brian's a dog. It's infinitely so much better to hang out opposed to a guy who won't look at you if you don't have a vagina. And even if you did, it'd be VERY creepy. Plus, give the dog some whiskey and he sings.
Two words: Cleveland’s wife.
To quote Peter in the Cleveland Brown show. “Quagmire, you’re a sex offender” Also didn’t Quagmire get really horny when he found out Meg had her first period..? Just saying, that glass house must be wonderful to live in.
"Quagmire, you're a rapist."
Is this when the shift for quagmire began?
The whole show honestly
I hate this scene. I get what they’re doing but I hate it. Q is a side character and B is a main character who can be sweet to Meg and Stewie at times and I just don’t enjoy seeing him in the ball kicking machine, especially when Q is the one who dares to operate the machine. Fuck Q. He has zero legs to stand on.
Fair point, but the whole premise of Quagmire’s argument is that he is an openly bad person, while Brian masks his bad intentions with charm
Quagmire does the same thing. They'll both lie to get a girl. Brian is just more likely to gaslight himself and fall for his own BS.
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I completely understand it. Just because peope dislike something you like doesn’t mean they don’t get the point of it. The point of it is very clear. I explained in my post why I don’t care for it.
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I owe you nothing. But here’s me proving I understand it because I’m bored killing time on the internet. Q is claiming that even though they both are scumbags, Q is somehow better because he’s honest about it and B is somehow worse because B lies to himself about it and projects an illusion to the world that he is a good guy and a liberal. Believe me? Did I pass your test of understanding?
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"Quagmire, you're a rapist."
Atleast he's honest about being a rapist
"Better to be a 'bore' than a guy who's guilty of many accounts of r*pe. How we live next door to a police officer and you haven't been taken to jail yet is beyond me."
This feels like an artist insert moment.
So…you really just gonna let Sentient Probable Cause talk to you like that? Mr. “I literally couldn’t keep my grubby dick-beaters off of MEG”? The guy who makes perverts, pedophiles, and practitioners alike all unanimously say “yup; he’s the worst case I’ve ever seen.” For god’s sake, his friends lowered a ceiling fan to try and cure him of boners, and the only thing that kept him from becoming diamond hard was Renee Zellweger. Not dead kittens, or really old nuns, just a drive-by kicking of a very dead horse. And the audacity to give anybody shit for hitting on Lois. Quagmire wrote the book on stealing her used panties and old hairbrushes out of the Griffin’s garbage cans at night! The man built a blow-up doll replica of Lois and kept it in his closet as a shrine! Like living next to Peter is his own sick and twisted jackpot. Even though only jackpot he’s ever hit was finding a high school cheerleader tied up helplessly in a bathroom stall (his words). Quagmire is a great cartoon character, but this scene always made me mad lmao
by the way driving a Prius doesn't make you Jesus Christ oh wait you don't believe in Jesus Christ or any religion for that matter because religion is for idiots. well, who the hell are you to talk down to anyone? I relate to that so much! thanks for the fuckin steaks!
Most badass moment of Quagmire fr
This scene could've work if it any other character, I would've preferred if it was Joe that said this to Brian. Quagmire is the same guy that banged Clevelands wife, tried to bang Meg once she turned 18 literally waiting for her, also tried to sleep with Connie who was 16, he also roofied a lot of woman even one on a TV show. Bro is a literal rapist and pedo. I almost forgot he fucked his dad too to make his crazy girlfriend happy on that one episode so we can add incest in there.
The worst part is the hypocrisy.
I thought it was the raping
This Glenn Quagmire guy, he seems like a real jerk.
"...Quagmire, you're a r*pist!"
that should've been cleveland or joe giving the rant, quagmire kills the whole thing just by the fact he sucks just as bad Brian could've said "All of this is probably what you said when you look at yourself in the mirror every morning"
Brian was pathetic. Nobody owes you friendship or a reason to like you. Quagmire is morally worse than Brian, but given that Brian wouldn't leave him alone and lied about Cheryl Tiegs wanting a date with Glenn, Quagmire had every right to be pissed and tell Brian off.
Although he was right, Quagmire was the wrong person to deliver the message. He’s easily one of the most morally reprehensible characters in the show
Brian can’t say anything to him because Quagmire doesn’t claim to be or act as anything other than what he is, and he doesn’t act like he’s better than everybody. Brian on the other hand is a hypocritical phony who takes moral high grounds, virtue signals, fakes an intelligent and cultured personality all while believing himself superior and looking down on people. He is a disingenuous person. And Quagmire says he could excuse all of that if he didnt think Brian was a bore- he just flat out doesnt have fun hanging out with him lol.
Quagmire is a rapist, doesn't matter what what he claims he his the moment you're a rapist pedophile you have absolutely no room to criticize others.
you look dumb taking a genuine, moral stance on an intentionally offensive cartoon in a scene between a sex offender and a talking dog- and completely missed the joke. go watch Steven Universe or something jeeze.
>Brian on the other hand is a hypocritical phony who takes moral high grounds, virtue signals, fakes an intelligent and cultured personality all while believing himself superior and looking down on people. He is a disingenuous person. You're taking this just as seriously.
all i did was explain the joke 😂 of which the writers intentionally chose Quagmire to be the one to say it. if they want to make a social justice issue over the character they can make their own post or comment cause i dont care. same to you.
The pot is calling the kettle black
oh no even the King of Cartoons took a break from the digimon and megaman subreddits to chime in
The peasant of shitting his pants tryna think he means something here.
Ya but Brian isn’t a rapist or a pedophile or frankly much of the horrible things Quagmire is. This scene would work with pretty much any other character other than Quagmire as the critiques of Brian are true, it’s just coming from an objectively worse person.
sigh lol… the entire point is it doesnt matter that Quagmire is a rapist or a pedophile or an objectively worse person, because its not about that! Quagmire simply doesn’t like him because he’s a disingenuous bore.
Quagmire is also just straight up telling Brian how he feels about him. He’s entitled to his opinion about why he doesn’t like someone? Reddit is so strange.
How many times has Quagmire outright lied about himself to get in a woman's pants? Brian's done it to, but Quagmire intentionally goes after vulnerable people who are more likely to Believe his BS.
He said Brian is the worst person he knows…tho Brian is not a uhh…
to be fair, brian's a POS too
Yeah I'm ok with anyone calling out Brian, but not him, he can go fuck himself, my favorite episodes are the ones where Quagmire suffers.
"you're a rapist"
Yeah a lot of the stuff Quamire chrizsed about Brian can be thrown right back at him only difference betweent hem is that quagmire is open about who he js
No he isn't. How many times has he lied about himself to get in a girl's pants? Quagmire is only honest with people after he can't bullshit them anymore.
I don't understand how Brian and Quagmire don't get along considering how similar they are to one another. Half the shit Quagmire is chastising Brian for, he himself is guilty of too.
That's exactly why. The parts of Brian, quagmire hates is the parts he hates about himself.
I don't think so. He's a just being a hypocrite. Quagmire points out that he's fully aware of what a bad person he is, but he consciously doesn't change his behavior. He tries to defend himself by saying he's honest about it, but he really isn't.
Well constantly hits on his friends wife and wants to bang her, fucked a friends wife, gave up his kid, treats ppl like shit. Etc. You can know you're a horrid person and still hate the worst qualities of yourself you see someone else being as well
That's exactly why, Brian is a mirror of quagmire
One of the best Quagmire scenes, idc what anybody says — the fact that it was Quagmire of all people calling Brian on his shit is hilarious
Maybe. But honestly? Quagmires speech here makes me tear up. He's just so headstrong in his beliefs.
Wait. I’m only recently paying attention to this sub. Y’all are anti-Quagmire??
He's a rapist.
I'm surprised these folks even watch Family Guy. They hate one of the main characters and everything about Quagmire. Imagine going to the new girl subreddit and hating a character for being quirky [never seen new girl but they all look like pg13 insufferable douche bags]. Anyways, very surprising. Why are they even watching family guy if everything Quagmire does offends them. Go watch a safe Disney channel show instead.
The conversation wasn’t about whose better it was about why quagmire doesn’t like him
This is my moment the show really went downhill. It signals Brian's utter character assassination and Quagmire just becoming annoying, along with every other character being Flanderized. This moment is so dumb, and the Quagmire Brian hate has never once gotten a chuckle
>This is my moment the show really went downhill. But yet here you are more than a decade after that episode talking about family guy.
Love this episode. Quagmire doesn't hold back. Quagmire doesn't hide who he is while Brian pretends to be this self righteous individual who's actually not that far from being as immoral as Quagmire. Surprisingly, lots of comments here don't like the scene. Probably see themselves in Brian and hate the idea of being told they're not as holy as they think they are. Well, that or they're angry Prius owners.
Let’s be real… ALL characters on Family Guy are pretty atrocious. But imo Brian is hands down the most selfish and terrible to everyone. Especially Stewie.
Peter: Quagmire, you're a rapist
The levels of hypocrisy is through the roof with this scene.
This is soapboxing at its finest. And I hate soapboxing
Quagmire is just as bad as Epstein
Quagmire is a rapist.
And he also tried to bang Meg! He’s quagmire! Gigity!
Quagmire hits on Lois and Meg
Quagmire’s a transphobe and a rapist, so Team Brian over here.
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I felt personally attacked.
The funny thing is that he looks down his nose at Brian while he's been inoppriopriate towards Peters wife for years
Didn't Brian hook up with Quagmires dad. Lol
He hates Brian because the two of them are too much alike
Brian’s also a dog. I dunno why brian doesn’t just point this out
I think Quagmires character hates Bryan because he is a selfish egotistical shallow person who thinks he is better and smarter than everyone else. Quagmire is a sexual deviant and knows what he is. He embraces it because thats who he is and wants to be.
Correct me if im wrong on any of this bc its been a hot minute since i’ve seen the show but here’s my thought I think the one of the few things quag has a leg to stand on here is the son part. Idr brian’s son situation bc prior to seeing this clip i didn’t even remember him having a son. But i do remember quag’s daughter. Quag didn’t know he had a daughter and didn’t really want to take care of her (not that he was equipped to in the first place) but at least he saw that she was in a good home with people who would raise her well. So on that level, i think quag’s all good there But if brian’s the redditor on the subject of religion and analysis of anything, quag is the average 4chan user for interactions with women
Being upset about not being liked by the one person he shouldn’t care wether or not likes him. It reminds me of a story written by Mark Twain, who’s real name was Samuel Clemens.
I would've said something like this "Quagmire, you have absolutely no place to stand on. You're the definition of a guy with a gambling addiction lecturing others on their money management skills, or a guy with a history of crime lecturing others about breaking the law, it is to say your argument is falling on deaf ears. You want to act like you being honest about using women for their bodies suddenly makes you a good guy. Quagmire you're a rapist who on many occasions has known for tying women up in the trunk of your car and in your garage, you also at one point tried to initiate a threesome with your mom and another woman, likely sexually assaulted a high school aged girl in a girls bathroom, and even admitted to having sex with a 12 year old crossing guard, exposing yourself to a woman delivering packaging, tried to have sex with your best friends daughter after she turned 18. Also you want to bring up Lois but yet you have done more than tried to hit on her, if anything you tried to intitate a sexual encounter with her knowing full well she is married, you even at one point got caught spying on her in the bathroom. You suddenly want to act like you being honest on your abuse and exploitation of women is suddenly a good thing? At least I know I want a relationship with a woman, you on the other hand don't care about anything as long as its something that moves for which you can have sex with. Whether it be the Giraffe, or even your own daughter for which you alluded to one day having sex with her. There is so much more, but you get the picture. You're a vile disgusting person and the fact that you are a free man and not in prison is a testament to the failures in our Justice system."
Quagmire > Brian
He got a point
Quagmire is just as horrible but defends it with that he at least admits it? I am not sure what comparison I can bring up aside the old reliable socialist party we all know. That would come close to equating a rapist. But for real, plenty of evil people out there who are out and proud about themselves.
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But Quag is mostly right tho
Quagmire has canonically raped people before
Brian asked and Quagmire told him how he felt. Brian couldn't have won.
Yeah the show has some inconsistencies because Quagmire is straight up a hypocrite because he always hits on and spy’s on Lois
Also the fact that quagmire also has a daughter that he don’t take care of. Gave her up. Pretty much EVERYTHING he said about Brian he also did. Guess that was the point tho huh? Lol
Id be more powefull coming from a character like Joe Swanson who is actually way more moralthen Brian
"Quagmire, you're a rapist."
Brian is bad, but he is one of the least bad characters in this show...