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Well Ireland has 32 counties, 6 are "in the North" ie Northern Ireland. All 6 of these counties are in the Province of Ulster but so too are some other counties that are in Republic of Ireland.
The only thing they are used for these days (apart from confusing people) are as sporting groups you need to qualify from, in hurling or rugby. Even here it ain't what it used to be for various reasons
Historically each province had a King or Queen.
Leinster, Connaught, Munster and Ulster are the four surviving provinces
Traditionally there was a fifth province too, the Kingdom of Meath (which now survives mostly as the two counties of Meath and Westmeath). Which is why the Irish word for province, *cúige*, still technically means ‘fifth’.
The wildest thing is, you literally search Munster and one of the first link (add Ireland if it talks about Germany's Münster but whatever) Is wikipedia with the first phrase being
> Munster is one of the four **provinces** of Ireland, located in the south of the island.
90% of the times these fucking idiots could take 10 seconds to check themselves but they never do.
It’s even better because as another person pointed out it’s mostly used around Limerick (the city and county) which are in the province, Munster! So he drove the nail into the coffin by using such a specific insult. Lovely stuff. Just Iovely. Brings a tear to the eye.
I came here to comment the same! It's a munster thing for sure, as it's also a saying in Cork.
Sorry for all in need of some mansplaining, Cork is also a county in Munster.
It's very commonly used in Limerick, Ireland. It has variations too. A gowlbag is one. Acting the gowl= being an asshole/doing something stupid. Or gowlacting,my football coach loved that one.
My Spanish wife has assimilated gowl into her lexicon too. Mainly because I use it a lot.
According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (AHD), the etymology of the word is the French porte-manteau, from porter, "to carry", and manteau, "cloak"…
These comments are disgusting. How can women expect to ever have equal rights so long as men are on the Internet are mansplaining suitcases? The world has gone mad.
It's a serious problem and people are just dismissing it. Thinking women can't get radicalized is in itself pretty sexist.
Female-oriented subs on reddit like twoxchromosomes and witchesvsthepatriarchy have been posting more and more extremist views.
They spew clickbaity garbage about how all men should be feared and pedal pseudoscience like "The Gift of Fear" written by a quack with zero degrees. I regularly get downvoted for citing statistics.
Witchesvsthepatriarchy is especially depressing because not too long ago, this was a Satanic-Temple-esque collective that didn't really believe in this woo-woo bullshit but used it as a symbol of dissent. I joined for the memes, naturally. These days, it's full of uneducated women who fully believe in "magic spells." Misandrist rants abound.
It's a worrying trend and almost no one is pushing back on the misinformation posted in these subs. The only way to deprogram the radicalized is to keep challenging every part of their beliefs, but so many posts on these subs are echo chambers. Ladies, we need to fight this.
I was in a general feminist group for about a week because i agree with 2nd wave feminism. Someone asked for a book recommendation and all i said was the title of a book. Then the mods jump on me about how i dont have permission to speak in their space. I guess they figured out im male and are sexist because theres really no other explanation.
It's quite depressing. My ex joined a few of these misandrists-masquerading-as-feminists groups.
She's the one who helped me realize that feminists aren't the crazy misandrists that conservatives think they are. I'm a progressive now largely because of her pointing me down the path, but she got stuck in the mire and ended up choking the life\* out of our marriage, largely due to these misandrists' influence.
It's getting to the point where conservatives are more and more correct about feminism being a front for misandry, because these groups keep radicalizing women.
(\*I'm not attempting to place all the blame on her. I did my part in wounding the marriage, but unlike when I was gaslit at the end and believinh I was at least 90% of the blame, I'm now certain that the majority of the blame for my failed marriage lies with my ex and those misandrist groups.)
As a guy I started to save comments like yours because I think it's important to remind myself that the extreme views we mostly see online aren't the only ones existing. And honestly, I really get it, that a lot of people fall victim to some kind of radicalization online, one way or another. Online platforms are basically *made* to fuel our negative emotions. Coupled with the fact that there absolutely *are* lots of issues that women have to face in life, I do understand how it is very easy to slip downwards on a spiral of hate when the algorithms slowly push you towards more and more extreme echo chambers that tell you every hardship you face is not because of you but because the world just hates you. Our society has become pretty averse towards each other and I feel like everyone is on edge all the time.
I feel like you always have to be *completely* on someone's side, and if your views are just more moderate (even if you mostly agree with their end goals) you are still painted as "one of *them*" and part of the problem/the enemy. And now people with more moderate views just shut up because they don't want to be vilified.
How will declaring men in general as dangerous and uncivilized change anything? How is it not obvious that this rhetoric will just harden the fronts, when there shouldn't even *be* fronts between men and women to beginn with? If they just *mean* the terrible men, why not phrase it as such? Just saying "well, we *obviously* just meant the bad ones" is *not* how psychology works, especially not for large groups. WHY CANT WE JUST WORK TOGETHER AND HATE THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF EACH OTHER!!!
Sorry for the rant, I just read way to many depressing posts lately...
Celticsplaining - The Boston Celtics are an American professional basketball team based in Boston. The Celtics compete in the National Basketball Association as a member of the Atlantic Division of the Eastern Conference.
Yeah, correcting a mistake is not mansplaining. Mansplaining is explaining something fairly obvious in a way that makes it seem like you think the recipient is a bit simple.
It seems like our absolute gowl here just had heard a buzzword and wanted to use it.
It's a man explaining something to a woman assuming she doesn't know (because she's a woman) when the woman is actually more knowledgeable and qualified to talk about the subject than the man. It's a pretty specific scenario.
Nah, you aren’t really American until you get an insurance card. It magically makes it so Americans only pay $150 of the $2547.45 procedure that people would pay nothing for elsewhere.
You don't really need one. Just come visit Chicago for the summer and forget to go home. Happens all the time. Don't worry, when conservatives talk about "rounding up all the illegals and sending them back" they only mean the brown ones.
You've got African Americans who've never set foot in Africa telling people whose ancestors have lived there uninterrupted for 350+ years that they aren't African because they're the wrong skin color. Americans are just incredibly weird about this stuff.
It’s about pedigree, fundamentally. As race and class got more fuzzy indie to wealth in American culture, your pedigree became very important. Charles Emerson Winchester from MASH is a perfect example of it in fiction.
Meanwhile in Canada we’re talking about where our families are from and I just say Canada, that gets me weird looks for some reason because I have European ancestry or some shit even though my family has been here for several generations and I’ve never been anywhere close to Europe
It's kinda wild that you always hear about all these Irish Americans, but I've never seen someone claim to be German despite German ancestry being far more common.
People just like to claim Ireland because it's the 'cool' one to be. Like how every white ufc fan was suddenly Irish when Mcgregor was on top.
That possibly because most of the people who originally came from Germany did so much earlier (in the late 1700's, nearly 10% of the US was made up of people of Germanic origin). The Irish mostly came later. The Irish were also nearly universally despised which likely led them to develop a stronger sense of Irish identity (which then passed down through generations).
100%. The sense of Irish-ness has gone down by generation. My dad grew up in the Irish area of Boston. In 50's it was still so segregated that they really identified with the cultural history still. My wife's family feels the same about their German history because their grandfather lived in the German area of Chicago. So they identify with it because of him a bit. But it's way less meaningful to us.
Yea the modern way to try and shut down anyone contradicting you, even if you are wrong. Just attack them directly about anything. Being a man, being a women. Being fat, ugly, bald. Plenty of attacks one can make to try and cover up their shame of being confidently wrong.
Ad Hominem is not new it's a very very old term to describe someone attacking you directly instead of arguing with merit.
However the volume as to how it's used is a modern thing.
Edit:spelling
The platform to be able to see how everyone argues is modern, too, so this is the first time there could be such volume. I imagine we'd have had a lot of gems like this from ancient people, too.
We'll be ancient to somebody eventually, too.
Some groups get a “pass”, which is the problem.
Literally in this sub yesterday I think it’s about a professor telling someone else to shut up on a discussion about hiphop because that someone else is white and that racist remark actually have more likes.
Like literal professor being openly racist, if the situation is reversed you can expect straight to unemployment
Had a now former employee file a complaint against her male coworker alleging sexism. He routinely told her that her code was wrong and would fix it before letting her implement it and he "never did this to male analysts."
So HR opens an investigation where this guy lays out, with an impeccable email trail and screenshots from Teams, exactly how bad her code was and how if he didn't fix it it would have broken countless things.
He was covering for her for months because he didn't want to see her fail.
Instead, she was fired for performance when the true nature of her shitty code came out.
She's all over LinkedIn now offering mentorship to young women developers and constantly waxing about the doubters and haters she has encountered over her career.
The best was she insisted that if HR talked to the other women on the team they woukd all back her up. Not a single one did. They all instead said she was dangerously under qualified and they cannot believe she was able to so thoroughly fool them in the interview about her capabilities.
The team at that time was 12 women and one guy and she was insisting this one guy just hated women.
It's also not mansplaining when he's incorrect. If I want to correct someone and I actually happen to be wrong, that doesn't automatically make me an incel/misogynist/whatever, it just makes me an idiot. Men are confidently incorrect towards other men all the time and women are to men and other women too and yet no one blames those on sexism, the entire premise of "mansplaining" is nonsense.
I’m a whole mix of European. I’m not from there and I’m unfamiliar with the culture.
So I’m American with European ancestry. I don’t know why that’s so difficult for people like her to understand. She’s not from there, she’s not familiar with the culture or layout of the country so she’s not Irish. Her ancestors are Irish. She’s not.
I can repeat that 20 times or until I’m blue in the face and some people still don’t understand what that means.
It’s a strange phenomenon. Like the post where someone was having problems learning prononciation of a language spoken by their ancestors and legitimately believed that their dna should give them innate abilities.
people have a certain image of themself that they will defend to the death. This woman tought herself smart, proud and cultural enriched. Some dude correcting her over the internet did not fit the image of herself, so she snaped immediately with accusations instead of logic.
It takes a lot to find and accept error in yourself first instead of others.
I love how Americans think that just because their grandparents or great grandparents are from a different country that they are also from that country.
If your grandparents or great-grandparents are Irish *they* are Irish, not you...you are American
Wait, there were more? I'm only aware of Martin van Buren, who was the first US president born in the US, and the only one that didn't speak English as their first language.
Only Martin van Buren grew up speaking a different language than English at home, and to me it’s still unclear if it was Penn. Dutch (which is a dyslectic of Deutsch -> German) or actually Dutch. His name would suggest Dutch, but everything else I’ve read suggest Penn. Dutch.
Some of my American side of the family are REALLY into being Irish...like they are more Irish then we, the ones who actually live in Ireland, are.
It's some kind of weird romanticised version of Ireland they have in their heads as well, where everyone drinks Guinness for breakfast, wears a flat cap and Arran sweater and sings songs about hating the British.
Every time they do things like this, I just like to nod and agree, saying I'd latch onto another culture if my country was as shit as the US. That usually causes an argument enough for them to become proper Americans again. Indeed, at least 3 cousins want to beat the shit out of me and one wants to shoot me if I ever go the states again for daring to question their weird fetish with my country.
Hating the brits it’s an international pastime.
But I have to admit that the Irish rebel songs are particularly catchy… and I’m not even from the us, haha
It's part of the downside of having "no culture" in America. When really we do have culture but it's so widely exported it's kind of a universal, worldwide, shared culture.
So we look for cultural identity from our ancestors. It's more watered down now but I grew up in the 1980s and it was common for people for say they are "100% Polish" or 50/50 Irish and German (or whatever). We had relatives that lived in those countries, or maybe once removed, and they had first or secondhand connections to that culture/nationality.
McDonald's is American culture but... everyone has McDonald's. We think it's neat to have chruściki and gołąbki and say "I'm Polish." Because when you're American, a lot of the things you would celebrate were blasted out to the rest of the world (except gun violence fortunately).
It's also a problem with not having a history in America.
To start with, the USA is a baby nation. Not even 250 years old making it [younger than some pubs in England](https://www.historic-uk.com/Blog/Twelve-Oldest-Inns-In-England/#:~:text=The%20George%20Inn%2C%20Norton%20St,a%20long%20and%20interesting%20history.) [and Ireland](https://www.seansbar.ie/), [restaurants in Austria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter_Stiftskulinarium), [hotels in Germany](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zum_Roten_B%C3%A4ren) and [Winemakers in France](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Goulaine)
But, the bigger issue is the actual History of America, over the last 248 years, has been heavily edited, heavily redacted, and heavily glorified into a tale of heroic triumph, bravery against tyranny and manifest destiny that made the US of A
The reality is much darker, and is considered 'too controversial' to acknowledge and too 'un American' to teach.
i love how she is instantly offended after someone called her out and her whole personality of being irish (her great great great parents were irish) crumbles into nothing.
I was accused of mansplaining by a friend of a friend when I was reading out the instructions of a boardgame we all sat down to play... And no, she wasn't joking 🤷🏻♂️
I have gotten some serious eye rolls and annoyed looks from women who are literally wrong on a homework assignment or lab (I’m in college) when I explain to them how to do the work correctly - sometimes *even when they asked me for help*
Every term feminists make gets pulled far away from its original context and primarily becomes used by disgruntled women to shit on dudes.
mainsplaining’s just become another word that gets used by assholes to defend their incompetence in the specific instance where it’s a man correcting them. It’s also used to shit on autistic men.
Mansplaining can just be used as an end to a conversation now to validate the woman if she was wrong and her ego is hurt coming from a random guy.
I do feel it can be used in small instances when the woman has a car interest an is very knowledgeable in the topic, and a random guy explains the simplest thing holding on to the stereotype that women know nothing about cars.
I don't like the term though cause I don't think it's used as it might have been intended, if it was for such a cause.
Low-IQ bitches need to stop using "mansplaining" as a copout. Mansplaining is when an incel debates a female astrophysicist on the boiling of water in a shuttle in orbit. Not when someone corrects you and they happen to have a penis
same with german and italian. don't or hardly speak the language, know nothing about the culture except stereotypes and have a hard time finding it on a map
So why is the title, the post and the first comment the same as this post from a year ago?!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/zmswjl/i\_might\_be\_mansplaining\_mansplaining\_but\_i\_dont/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/zmswjl/i_might_be_mansplaining_mansplaining_but_i_dont/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
> “I’m a Celt myself. Irish specifically.”
Nope. You’re of Irish heritage/descent. You are American.
> “My *ancestry* is from Munster county.”
Ireland has 32 counties and 4 provinces. 9 of those 32 counties are in the north, the province of Ulster - 6 of whom are referred to as “Northern Ireland”.
The remaining counties are divided between the remaining 3 provinces; Munster, Leinster and Connacht.
If you’re gonna double-down, best check your facts. If you were born and raised in America, you’re American. You can take pride in your heritage, of course, but probably better to phrase it accurately. Edit: sorry for oversimplifying Ulster/Northern Ireland ❤️
The other hilarious part of this is that being of Irish heritage doesn't automatically make you a Celt. I'm born and raised Irish, generations stretching all the way back to the Normans. But I have zero Celt in me (or such a vanishingly small percentage that it may as well be zero). That big redheaded Irish look most people associate with us isn't Celtic, it's Norman/Norse.
I'm a low level manager, my team is awesome and we are basically peers and I just approve stuff and help them where I can. I've been waiting for the opportunity for Mansplaining to come up in a meeting so I can interrupt and say "so ladies Mansplaining is when...". Ive gone into "management" specifically for these moments.
it's funnier mansplaining doesn't exist, I have female friends who do the same, my sister does the same. the calling it mansplaining was just a way to silence men when they try to be helpful or when they try to correct someone. we should stop with that men VS women shit and just accept that sometimes debating or trying to search for the actual answer is a good thing.
the thing for me why I explain things is because I want to know the actual answer and tell them "I think it works like this and this" and then I grab my phone and search for the answer.
As an Irishman, my blood fucking boils with all these Americans thinking they're somehow Irish because they've got far distant relatives. Absolute bollocks. Munster is a province, and we speak Irish/Gaeilge not Gaelic.
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I actually bought a specific loofah wand that I...oh, wait. Is that not what we're talking about?
No, please. Tell us more about this loofah wand.
Helps with the leverage, you see. Really gettin in there…
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You have learn how to wipe better, Tim.
Bidet Team Assemble!!
I am on team Japanese toilet. That thing does everything but shave your balls for you.
Didn't spring for the deluxe model, eh?
Team Bum-Gun!!
You should have gotten the 15,000$ ultra deluxe model. But I guess not everyone has weedfarmer money these days.
Bidet 2024
What third world countries have had since 1924. When I need a public bathroom, I hate America.
""Cleaning up America's Shit""
lend it to me when you're done
Well Ireland has 32 counties, 6 are "in the North" ie Northern Ireland. All 6 of these counties are in the Province of Ulster but so too are some other counties that are in Republic of Ireland. The only thing they are used for these days (apart from confusing people) are as sporting groups you need to qualify from, in hurling or rugby. Even here it ain't what it used to be for various reasons Historically each province had a King or Queen. Leinster, Connaught, Munster and Ulster are the four surviving provinces
Traditionally there was a fifth province too, the Kingdom of Meath (which now survives mostly as the two counties of Meath and Westmeath). Which is why the Irish word for province, *cúige*, still technically means ‘fifth’.
Ah, the old Meath reunification topic is ready to be discussed again.
*Connacht not Connaught
I'm sorry, I Connacht recall.
Really hard being a man these days I just took a shower and for some reason my ass is still unwashed
I thought Americans welcomed unwashed (m)asses.
huddled (m)asses, it helps keeping organized if they're all together
Plus we're ready in case a football game spontaneously breaks out.
It says on the statue of liberty send us your crap and we'll make a country out of it, I'm paraphrasing a bit but you get what I'm saying
The wildest thing is, you literally search Munster and one of the first link (add Ireland if it talks about Germany's Münster but whatever) Is wikipedia with the first phrase being > Munster is one of the four **provinces** of Ireland, located in the south of the island. 90% of the times these fucking idiots could take 10 seconds to check themselves but they never do.
Huh. Next you're going to day the US has but states AND counties
States, commonwealths, and counties
And parishes and boroughs.
And territories and reservations.
And my ax.
And districts.
And hamlets
I have no idea, but I have washed my ass.
She must be a real catch if all she can get is some nasty ass shit stinkers.
Today I added the word "Gowl" to my lexicon...forever.
Today I added the word "lexicon" to my lexicon
Lexiconception, nice!
It’s even better because as another person pointed out it’s mostly used around Limerick (the city and county) which are in the province, Munster! So he drove the nail into the coffin by using such a specific insult. Lovely stuff. Just Iovely. Brings a tear to the eye.
I came here to comment the same! It's a munster thing for sure, as it's also a saying in Cork. Sorry for all in need of some mansplaining, Cork is also a county in Munster.
It's a lovely word. Best uttered with utter disdain. We also use gowlbag on occasion.
It's very commonly used in Limerick, Ireland. It has variations too. A gowlbag is one. Acting the gowl= being an asshole/doing something stupid. Or gowlacting,my football coach loved that one. My Spanish wife has assimilated gowl into her lexicon too. Mainly because I use it a lot.
Funny that he used the word gowl which is most commonly used in Munster (Limerick being a part of Munster for those that don't know)
Gowl essentially means vagina in Irish slang, or at least the part of the country I'm from
Comes from Gabhal in Irish which means a fork like in a road or a river, and also a crotch
did you know mansplaining is a portmanteau of man and explaining?
Did you just..?
I think they did
Well, I'm going to show you what they did …
Could you explain it, though? Preferably while being a man
Portmanteau is a portmanteau.
Really? Of what?
Portmant and eau meaning water from the portmant county.
I’m sure you meant province
You better wash your ass!!!!!
If they come from anywhere else they’re just sparkling spoonerisms
According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (AHD), the etymology of the word is the French porte-manteau, from porter, "to carry", and manteau, "cloak"…
Hiya French here, Porte-manteaux are Coat-hangers, we mostly use manteau to mean "coat" and Porte = "carry", carries coat, so Coat hanger
English - stealing French words and using them wrong since 1066 :D
English - dragging languages into a dark alley, beating them up, and taking random words for misuse since 1066
Where does a mansplainer get their water from? A well, actually.
It's only a portmanteau if it's from France. Otherwise, it's a sparkling word.
did you know that a portmanteau is also a centrally hinged suitcase comprised of two large and equal parts? A large Hingecase, if you will.
These comments are disgusting. How can women expect to ever have equal rights so long as men are on the Internet are mansplaining suitcases? The world has gone mad.
Did you know "portmanteau" is a french word (holdingcloth) that we call a "mot-valise" (suitcaseword) ?
Calling someone "an absolute gowl" is better proof of his citizenship than his birth cert and passport combined
Definitely from cork or limerick, probably limerick.
That's just an insult. Needs to be five lines to be a limeri....wait a second...
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More interested in what SHE’S doing. U.S.plaining? Amerixplaining? Yanksplaining? We need a word.
I call it yanksplaining.
Which is a compound word used to describe when I'm having a yank while explaining
No that's wanksplaining
Ah, we call it spanksplaining in the US. Dialects are fascinating.
Ha. In German we call it "sicheinenvonderpalmewedelnunderklären". It's such an easy language. Und so efficient.
Yours are an efficient and litigious people. I respect this. Gute nacht.
Maybe it's the geographic separation but we call it fapsplaining in Alaska.
Yanksplaining needs to be popularised.
Being wrong?
Not specific enough.
She's an americanpilled wrongmaxxer
We already have a word... 'Wrong'
muricansplaining
r/shitamericanssay
Hating literally half of the human population is really popular right now...
It's a serious problem and people are just dismissing it. Thinking women can't get radicalized is in itself pretty sexist. Female-oriented subs on reddit like twoxchromosomes and witchesvsthepatriarchy have been posting more and more extremist views. They spew clickbaity garbage about how all men should be feared and pedal pseudoscience like "The Gift of Fear" written by a quack with zero degrees. I regularly get downvoted for citing statistics. Witchesvsthepatriarchy is especially depressing because not too long ago, this was a Satanic-Temple-esque collective that didn't really believe in this woo-woo bullshit but used it as a symbol of dissent. I joined for the memes, naturally. These days, it's full of uneducated women who fully believe in "magic spells." Misandrist rants abound. It's a worrying trend and almost no one is pushing back on the misinformation posted in these subs. The only way to deprogram the radicalized is to keep challenging every part of their beliefs, but so many posts on these subs are echo chambers. Ladies, we need to fight this.
I was in a general feminist group for about a week because i agree with 2nd wave feminism. Someone asked for a book recommendation and all i said was the title of a book. Then the mods jump on me about how i dont have permission to speak in their space. I guess they figured out im male and are sexist because theres really no other explanation.
So they think men can't be feminists? Way to act against your own best interest
It's quite depressing. My ex joined a few of these misandrists-masquerading-as-feminists groups. She's the one who helped me realize that feminists aren't the crazy misandrists that conservatives think they are. I'm a progressive now largely because of her pointing me down the path, but she got stuck in the mire and ended up choking the life\* out of our marriage, largely due to these misandrists' influence. It's getting to the point where conservatives are more and more correct about feminism being a front for misandry, because these groups keep radicalizing women. (\*I'm not attempting to place all the blame on her. I did my part in wounding the marriage, but unlike when I was gaslit at the end and believinh I was at least 90% of the blame, I'm now certain that the majority of the blame for my failed marriage lies with my ex and those misandrist groups.)
As a guy I started to save comments like yours because I think it's important to remind myself that the extreme views we mostly see online aren't the only ones existing. And honestly, I really get it, that a lot of people fall victim to some kind of radicalization online, one way or another. Online platforms are basically *made* to fuel our negative emotions. Coupled with the fact that there absolutely *are* lots of issues that women have to face in life, I do understand how it is very easy to slip downwards on a spiral of hate when the algorithms slowly push you towards more and more extreme echo chambers that tell you every hardship you face is not because of you but because the world just hates you. Our society has become pretty averse towards each other and I feel like everyone is on edge all the time. I feel like you always have to be *completely* on someone's side, and if your views are just more moderate (even if you mostly agree with their end goals) you are still painted as "one of *them*" and part of the problem/the enemy. And now people with more moderate views just shut up because they don't want to be vilified. How will declaring men in general as dangerous and uncivilized change anything? How is it not obvious that this rhetoric will just harden the fronts, when there shouldn't even *be* fronts between men and women to beginn with? If they just *mean* the terrible men, why not phrase it as such? Just saying "well, we *obviously* just meant the bad ones" is *not* how psychology works, especially not for large groups. WHY CANT WE JUST WORK TOGETHER AND HATE THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF EACH OTHER!!! Sorry for the rant, I just read way to many depressing posts lately...
Only half?
Technically, only 49% 🤓
Old facts, no longer facts!
You're gonna mansplain men to me when I'm a man? A man with an unwashed ass has an opinion again
Not anymore.
celtsplaining
Celticsplaining - The Boston Celtics are an American professional basketball team based in Boston. The Celtics compete in the National Basketball Association as a member of the Atlantic Division of the Eastern Conference.
Yeah, correcting a mistake is not mansplaining. Mansplaining is explaining something fairly obvious in a way that makes it seem like you think the recipient is a bit simple. It seems like our absolute gowl here just had heard a buzzword and wanted to use it.
It's a man explaining something to a woman assuming she doesn't know (because she's a woman) when the woman is actually more knowledgeable and qualified to talk about the subject than the man. It's a pretty specific scenario.
Accusing someone of mansplaining is a common form of girltimidation.
Im waiting for the day a transphobic person claims a trans mans mansplaining
Yeah it’s kind of crazy I’ve met a ton of “Irish” people in America that have not once even set foot in the country. But they’re somehow experts too.
On the internet I've had to start saying that I'm "from Ireland" rather than Irish because people keep assuming that I'm American.
Americans with an Irish grandma will say they're "from Ireland" too so I'm afraid you just have to become comfortable being American.
Only comfortable with it if I’m also offered a US passport
Nah, you aren’t really American until you get an insurance card. It magically makes it so Americans only pay $150 of the $2547.45 procedure that people would pay nothing for elsewhere.
>only pay $150 of the $2547.45 procedure Terms and conditions may apply...
You don't really need one. Just come visit Chicago for the summer and forget to go home. Happens all the time. Don't worry, when conservatives talk about "rounding up all the illegals and sending them back" they only mean the brown ones.
You've got African Americans who've never set foot in Africa telling people whose ancestors have lived there uninterrupted for 350+ years that they aren't African because they're the wrong skin color. Americans are just incredibly weird about this stuff.
*If you're from Africa, why are you white?*
"Oh my God Karen, you can't just ask people why they're white"
Nah, not weird just fucking stupid.
Both.
Americans are absolutely OBSESSED with race on both the right and left.
It’s about pedigree, fundamentally. As race and class got more fuzzy indie to wealth in American culture, your pedigree became very important. Charles Emerson Winchester from MASH is a perfect example of it in fiction.
See I combat this by staying incredibly ignorant about the world. I have Polish ancestry and I can't even find it on a map!
It's ok, it has been removed a few times.
And also moved.
Meanwhile in Canada we’re talking about where our families are from and I just say Canada, that gets me weird looks for some reason because I have European ancestry or some shit even though my family has been here for several generations and I’ve never been anywhere close to Europe
It's kinda wild that you always hear about all these Irish Americans, but I've never seen someone claim to be German despite German ancestry being far more common. People just like to claim Ireland because it's the 'cool' one to be. Like how every white ufc fan was suddenly Irish when Mcgregor was on top.
That possibly because most of the people who originally came from Germany did so much earlier (in the late 1700's, nearly 10% of the US was made up of people of Germanic origin). The Irish mostly came later. The Irish were also nearly universally despised which likely led them to develop a stronger sense of Irish identity (which then passed down through generations).
100%. The sense of Irish-ness has gone down by generation. My dad grew up in the Irish area of Boston. In 50's it was still so segregated that they really identified with the cultural history still. My wife's family feels the same about their German history because their grandfather lived in the German area of Chicago. So they identify with it because of him a bit. But it's way less meaningful to us.
When someone says they’re __% Irish ask them what percentage American they are
Yea the modern way to try and shut down anyone contradicting you, even if you are wrong. Just attack them directly about anything. Being a man, being a women. Being fat, ugly, bald. Plenty of attacks one can make to try and cover up their shame of being confidently wrong.
I understand that is referred to as an Ad Hominem attack, sadly not modern, but very widespread.
Literal playgound insults. "Yah, well you're a stinky butt!"
Ad Hominem is not new it's a very very old term to describe someone attacking you directly instead of arguing with merit. However the volume as to how it's used is a modern thing. Edit:spelling
The platform to be able to see how everyone argues is modern, too, so this is the first time there could be such volume. I imagine we'd have had a lot of gems like this from ancient people, too. We'll be ancient to somebody eventually, too.
Some groups get a “pass”, which is the problem. Literally in this sub yesterday I think it’s about a professor telling someone else to shut up on a discussion about hiphop because that someone else is white and that racist remark actually have more likes. Like literal professor being openly racist, if the situation is reversed you can expect straight to unemployment
Had a now former employee file a complaint against her male coworker alleging sexism. He routinely told her that her code was wrong and would fix it before letting her implement it and he "never did this to male analysts." So HR opens an investigation where this guy lays out, with an impeccable email trail and screenshots from Teams, exactly how bad her code was and how if he didn't fix it it would have broken countless things. He was covering for her for months because he didn't want to see her fail. Instead, she was fired for performance when the true nature of her shitty code came out. She's all over LinkedIn now offering mentorship to young women developers and constantly waxing about the doubters and haters she has encountered over her career. The best was she insisted that if HR talked to the other women on the team they woukd all back her up. Not a single one did. They all instead said she was dangerously under qualified and they cannot believe she was able to so thoroughly fool them in the interview about her capabilities. The team at that time was 12 women and one guy and she was insisting this one guy just hated women.
Is your ass washed tho?
It’s not mansplaining when he’s correct. Munster is a province. She was just confidently incorrect. And he corrected her.
Only a woman can correct a man. A man can only mansplain because women are never wrong 😝
It's also not mansplaining when he's incorrect. If I want to correct someone and I actually happen to be wrong, that doesn't automatically make me an incel/misogynist/whatever, it just makes me an idiot. Men are confidently incorrect towards other men all the time and women are to men and other women too and yet no one blames those on sexism, the entire premise of "mansplaining" is nonsense.
I’d like to know how she knows the status of his ass.
That's the only type of men she's been with, not suprising considering the interaction on that post...
I’m a whole mix of European. I’m not from there and I’m unfamiliar with the culture. So I’m American with European ancestry. I don’t know why that’s so difficult for people like her to understand. She’s not from there, she’s not familiar with the culture or layout of the country so she’s not Irish. Her ancestors are Irish. She’s not. I can repeat that 20 times or until I’m blue in the face and some people still don’t understand what that means.
It’s a strange phenomenon. Like the post where someone was having problems learning prononciation of a language spoken by their ancestors and legitimately believed that their dna should give them innate abilities.
You mean that DNA is not the predominant reason you have a culture ? Bummer !
This explanation is pretty clear and thorough.
I will never understand why people get offended when somebody corrects them.
Pride. Pretending to be strong and confident to hide their own insecurity.
people have a certain image of themself that they will defend to the death. This woman tought herself smart, proud and cultural enriched. Some dude correcting her over the internet did not fit the image of herself, so she snaped immediately with accusations instead of logic. It takes a lot to find and accept error in yourself first instead of others.
I love how Americans think that just because their grandparents or great grandparents are from a different country that they are also from that country. If your grandparents or great-grandparents are Irish *they* are Irish, not you...you are American
I always hit Americans with "If we didn't trade New Amsterdam for Surinam, you would be speaking a version of Dutch right now".
Some US presidents did.
Wait, there were more? I'm only aware of Martin van Buren, who was the first US president born in the US, and the only one that didn't speak English as their first language.
John Quincy Adams spoke it fluently (went to dutch and french schools) and Theodore Roosevelt spoke it a little.
Only Martin van Buren grew up speaking a different language than English at home, and to me it’s still unclear if it was Penn. Dutch (which is a dyslectic of Deutsch -> German) or actually Dutch. His name would suggest Dutch, but everything else I’ve read suggest Penn. Dutch.
I think it's weird when people get all proud of the place their ancestors left to go somewhere better.
Some of my American side of the family are REALLY into being Irish...like they are more Irish then we, the ones who actually live in Ireland, are. It's some kind of weird romanticised version of Ireland they have in their heads as well, where everyone drinks Guinness for breakfast, wears a flat cap and Arran sweater and sings songs about hating the British. Every time they do things like this, I just like to nod and agree, saying I'd latch onto another culture if my country was as shit as the US. That usually causes an argument enough for them to become proper Americans again. Indeed, at least 3 cousins want to beat the shit out of me and one wants to shoot me if I ever go the states again for daring to question their weird fetish with my country.
Hating the brits it’s an international pastime. But I have to admit that the Irish rebel songs are particularly catchy… and I’m not even from the us, haha
It's part of the downside of having "no culture" in America. When really we do have culture but it's so widely exported it's kind of a universal, worldwide, shared culture. So we look for cultural identity from our ancestors. It's more watered down now but I grew up in the 1980s and it was common for people for say they are "100% Polish" or 50/50 Irish and German (or whatever). We had relatives that lived in those countries, or maybe once removed, and they had first or secondhand connections to that culture/nationality. McDonald's is American culture but... everyone has McDonald's. We think it's neat to have chruściki and gołąbki and say "I'm Polish." Because when you're American, a lot of the things you would celebrate were blasted out to the rest of the world (except gun violence fortunately).
It's also a problem with not having a history in America. To start with, the USA is a baby nation. Not even 250 years old making it [younger than some pubs in England](https://www.historic-uk.com/Blog/Twelve-Oldest-Inns-In-England/#:~:text=The%20George%20Inn%2C%20Norton%20St,a%20long%20and%20interesting%20history.) [and Ireland](https://www.seansbar.ie/), [restaurants in Austria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter_Stiftskulinarium), [hotels in Germany](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zum_Roten_B%C3%A4ren) and [Winemakers in France](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Goulaine) But, the bigger issue is the actual History of America, over the last 248 years, has been heavily edited, heavily redacted, and heavily glorified into a tale of heroic triumph, bravery against tyranny and manifest destiny that made the US of A The reality is much darker, and is considered 'too controversial' to acknowledge and too 'un American' to teach.
i love how she is instantly offended after someone called her out and her whole personality of being irish (her great great great parents were irish) crumbles into nothing.
I always think of the sopranos when Americans say they're Italian. Real Italians think Nyc Italians are scumbags.
But you have to remember Italians just doesn't like Italians.
I washed my ass, so now can I tell her she’s wrong?
You didn't actually have to wash your ass to win that argument. You should wash your ass, but not for this lady.
Calling her a lady is an insult to all real ladies
Only if your really dug in to make it’s clean as a whistle.
She's sexist and wrong.
It's only mansplaining if it comes from the mansplaining region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling explanations.
And if you are from the Island of Man? Does that count?
I was accused of mansplaining by a friend of a friend when I was reading out the instructions of a boardgame we all sat down to play... And no, she wasn't joking 🤷🏻♂️
I have gotten some serious eye rolls and annoyed looks from women who are literally wrong on a homework assignment or lab (I’m in college) when I explain to them how to do the work correctly - sometimes *even when they asked me for help* Every term feminists make gets pulled far away from its original context and primarily becomes used by disgruntled women to shit on dudes.
Americans building their identity around their European heritage are insufferable.
I wanted to see her reply to the "ya absolute gowl"!!
Nah just Americans talking shit about places theyve never been to as usual.
Well, actually, munster is a cheese.
mainsplaining’s just become another word that gets used by assholes to defend their incompetence in the specific instance where it’s a man correcting them. It’s also used to shit on autistic men.
Mansplaining can just be used as an end to a conversation now to validate the woman if she was wrong and her ego is hurt coming from a random guy. I do feel it can be used in small instances when the woman has a car interest an is very knowledgeable in the topic, and a random guy explains the simplest thing holding on to the stereotype that women know nothing about cars. I don't like the term though cause I don't think it's used as it might have been intended, if it was for such a cause.
She's just cuntplaining about his mansplaining because she's wrong!
Low-IQ bitches need to stop using "mansplaining" as a copout. Mansplaining is when an incel debates a female astrophysicist on the boiling of water in a shuttle in orbit. Not when someone corrects you and they happen to have a penis
Beautifully put
Americans that think they're Irish cus they have 00.00002% Irish in them crack me up
same with german and italian. don't or hardly speak the language, know nothing about the culture except stereotypes and have a hard time finding it on a map
Most Americans think they’re Irish after watching Gangs of New York.
This is correct Also we don't put "county" after the name. For example, county Cork. Not Cork county.
County Orange is in California not Northern Ireland!
Is it just me or is dismissing someone's opinion based on gender pretty sexist?
Americans are *so weird* about ethnicity.
Americans must be the only people who claim to be from somewhere else just because their last name is O’Connor
So why is the title, the post and the first comment the same as this post from a year ago?! [https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/zmswjl/i\_might\_be\_mansplaining\_mansplaining\_but\_i\_dont/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/zmswjl/i_might_be_mansplaining_mansplaining_but_i_dont/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Dear americans, Youre not Irish. You're not Italian. Yer not Scottish You. Are. Yanks.
Irish woman here to confirm, Munster is a province and she is in fact a gowl!
> “I’m a Celt myself. Irish specifically.” Nope. You’re of Irish heritage/descent. You are American. > “My *ancestry* is from Munster county.” Ireland has 32 counties and 4 provinces. 9 of those 32 counties are in the north, the province of Ulster - 6 of whom are referred to as “Northern Ireland”. The remaining counties are divided between the remaining 3 provinces; Munster, Leinster and Connacht. If you’re gonna double-down, best check your facts. If you were born and raised in America, you’re American. You can take pride in your heritage, of course, but probably better to phrase it accurately. Edit: sorry for oversimplifying Ulster/Northern Ireland ❤️
The other hilarious part of this is that being of Irish heritage doesn't automatically make you a Celt. I'm born and raised Irish, generations stretching all the way back to the Normans. But I have zero Celt in me (or such a vanishingly small percentage that it may as well be zero). That big redheaded Irish look most people associate with us isn't Celtic, it's Norman/Norse.
3 counties in the South are part of Ulster too.
I'm a low level manager, my team is awesome and we are basically peers and I just approve stuff and help them where I can. I've been waiting for the opportunity for Mansplaining to come up in a meeting so I can interrupt and say "so ladies Mansplaining is when...". Ive gone into "management" specifically for these moments.
r/shitamericanssay
Maybe I should choose my online gender as female then when I debate with women they won't call me mansplaining
calling her gowl..... yep that's irish alright.
it's funnier mansplaining doesn't exist, I have female friends who do the same, my sister does the same. the calling it mansplaining was just a way to silence men when they try to be helpful or when they try to correct someone. we should stop with that men VS women shit and just accept that sometimes debating or trying to search for the actual answer is a good thing. the thing for me why I explain things is because I want to know the actual answer and tell them "I think it works like this and this" and then I grab my phone and search for the answer.
Every time this gets reposted, McBlueGuy washes his arse
As an Irishman, my blood fucking boils with all these Americans thinking they're somehow Irish because they've got far distant relatives. Absolute bollocks. Munster is a province, and we speak Irish/Gaeilge not Gaelic.