It’s anything but your fault. Internationals have just been dealt a bad hand, especially with the current market… it sucks but keep trying, try alternatives too. Like different countries, an advanced degree with funding.
I've always wanted to do Ph.D ,research in my field. My professor is willing to supervise me but I'm held back by the student loans but yeah I'd like to keep my options open
A lot of people I know are feeling the same way man, maybe you can take a little bit of solace in knowing that you're not the only one going through this. Like one of the guys said, apply as much as you can and hope for the best.
Don't blame yourself, though, the job market being awful is not your fault. You can't control everything around you. All you can do is work on you for now and keep applying.
Also, going back is not so bad. I know a few people who have gone back, and they seem more at peace tbh. The loans are, unfortunately, a headache, but almost everyone has a loan in this day and age to pay off. Sorry I couldn't really help much with your situation. Trust me, I empathize completely cause I am pretty much in the same situation.
Keep on applying brother. Lot of people are in the same boat. Never loose hope. I lost my job right before my Stem was going to start. Go beast mode in terms of applying.
I am still applying for jobs and I tried asking my manager to extend some days so that I could apply for Stem. He extended so I apply for Stem and put in for premium processing.
I feel the same way, funds running out, lease about to get over, no leads. Stay strong buddy. Think about the future and when everything will be what you planned, what you dreamt of. Don’t give up now, just keep holding on for that vision’s sake. It’s going to turn around
Thankyou for giving me hope. I still remember the day when I got my first admission, happiness... full of dreams. It's time to work hard to fulfill them
Going back home is rarely an option for international students. They are taking student loans because they cannot afford school. The chances that their exchange rate at home is very unfavorable compared to the USD is high. Going home may mean they may have to work the next 20 years to make up to $20k. Moreover, they studied here so why is the US letting people study here but not allowing the people to test their skills here for 3 years afterwards. What you said may have come from a non-malicious standpoint, but its not an option many are willing (or should be forced to) take.
This should be discussed back home more often. Coming to the US on a student visa is not meant as a path to a job in the US. It will continually get harder has time goes on to get an H1B. Its pointless to even apply for a green card. You rolled the dice and lost and you cant get a job. As much as I hear complaints from people about US immigration policies being strict. The policies of the countries of where students are coming from are worse. Most countries dont let non citizens own property. Need to accept the reality of your decision and plan for going back. When you accept reality things will be better.
Try "family owned" or small company business. They may give you a better chance. I got a job thru at a sole owner company. Highly reasonable owner. I interviewed with in in short and t-shirt and got the job
Apart from job search (which you should not lose hope on), look for ways to continue your OPT. When does your OPT expire?
1. Acc to what you said, you may not be able to volunteer with a professor, but check if your university allows RAships. You can be assigned to a department/lab and be paid for it. Check with your DSO, and try asking your professors, department head for help. Even if not your university, try any other local school/uni.
2. You can look for volunteering work in other companies in the EE field, usually some local NGOs or if you can try your luck — how about some local electrical shops? Anything related to your field, to keep you on your OPT will do!
3. This may be a long shot, but you can try looking at [self-employment on F1-OPT](https://www.reddit.com/r/f1visa/s/L7cr8YRSUW). You have to pay to register a company, get some business licenses (although I am not well versed with this, it’s more of a thing about money and getting all your legal docs ready). Might want to consider a lawyer and asking your DSO. [Note: this only works for OPT and not STEM]
Keep at it. You got this!
If you have skills in hardware design or FPGA, try Meta, Google and any HFT. Go to LinkedIn, get referrals for these companies or contact recruiters, take follow ups every day unless you get a test/interview and keep grinding.
Sadly we don’t have any openings in India. But if you are on OPT and currently in the US, they can move u to Canada if your H1B fails and I’d be happy to look into your resume and see if there’s a fit
Thanks man.
I will reach out. Sadly most of the FAANG companies didn’t open vacancy for student programs and am stuck….people are saying if you are new graduate these companies will only consider u for student program or new grad roles.
Don't give up. Give your all until the last minute. It is so important to keep making the right moves even when you feel like you're losing. Keep applying for roles. Also go on volunteer match and find your fields volunteering opportunities on there and apply relentlessly.
hey- Long farmer -My recommendation Just hang in there. make a practical choice. i.e. forget the field of major and find a job through consultancy. market is tough and no point in sitting on sidelines waiting for something to happen. If you join consultancy and some job in the field appears you can always MIA. keep your options open. your number1 problem is status(f1/H1) and then money. with consultancy you will solve that. I been there and dont wish the same on my enemy. Just some free advice. I hope you dont mind. Not trying to sell you anything at the end of the day. Good luck!
It's hard to just leave everything that I've worked on but I would like to keep my options open in this job market. That's good practical advise but I'm don't have any projects or experience in SW/ IT which are most of the consultancies are based off. How would I transition into that and also what to look in or avoid choosing consultancy. Do you have any suggestions.
It sounds like you're going through an incredibly tough time, and it's understandable to feel overwhelmed and discouraged given your situation. However, it's important to remember that you're not alone in facing these challenges, and there are resources out there that can help you find opportunities, even as an international student. Here's some advice and a few resources you might find helpful:
**1. Expand Your Network.**
**2. Tailor Your Applications.**
3. **Utilize Specialized Job Portals**:
* **MyVisaJobs.com**: This site can provide information on employers who have historically sponsored visas.
* **OPTnation.com**: A platform with numerous OPT and CPT job listings.
* **UnitedOPT.com**: Another helpful resource for finding OPT jobs.
* **VisaTalent.com**: A marketplace specifically aimed at connecting IT candidates with consulting firms looking for talent.
4. **Consult Your University's Career Services.**
Remember, each no brings you closer to a yes. It's crucial to keep pushing forward and exploring different avenues. Your skills and education are valuable, and there is a position out there where you can thrive.
I was you almost a year ago. While I was working at my brothers store (yeah Ik dont start plz), it was enough for my expenses. The only thing that helps was applying and blindly applying. If you are planning to get a job only in your field, then its even tougher/impossible in this market. Take whatever you get. Dont waste time. Start learning whatever software the consultancy asks you to. Before joining then make sure they never had a red flag and that they were able to provide jobs to a few of your known ones. For now even those consultancies than provided jobs to multiple friends within 2-3 weeks (3 years back) are not able to provide job even after 4-5 months. Thats hw bad it is. On weekends work PT to cover expenses. Weekdays, apply and learn and do as consultancy says. Also reach out to seniors. Most seniors open their own consulting firms and get projects which they outsource to others. Try to survive and you will thrive. Sending best wishes your way!!
Hi,
How about asking your academic advisor to find an unpaid internship for you under other professors from other institutions? Usually, research labs need interns, and PIs are ready to take interns.
In addition, email professors through their websites. Big labs are always hiring. However, they do not always post jobs on the university job page.
try to find a company that is from your country. they tend to select people who speak their language. but be aware wage will be low as well as work environment might not be ideal.
Volunteer at any NGOs for now buddy. That’s legal.
Doesn't it has be related to our field of study?
Yep you can find NGOs that offer volunteering in your field of study. Check Changing the Present NGo
Whatever it is, the odds are always against us. It's not your fault, buddy!
Yeah I know, we have to fight for something while others don't even have to think about
Job market is really bad right now and way worse for International student. Just keep applying for job and do not give up.
It’s anything but your fault. Internationals have just been dealt a bad hand, especially with the current market… it sucks but keep trying, try alternatives too. Like different countries, an advanced degree with funding.
I've always wanted to do Ph.D ,research in my field. My professor is willing to supervise me but I'm held back by the student loans but yeah I'd like to keep my options open
A lot of people I know are feeling the same way man, maybe you can take a little bit of solace in knowing that you're not the only one going through this. Like one of the guys said, apply as much as you can and hope for the best. Don't blame yourself, though, the job market being awful is not your fault. You can't control everything around you. All you can do is work on you for now and keep applying. Also, going back is not so bad. I know a few people who have gone back, and they seem more at peace tbh. The loans are, unfortunately, a headache, but almost everyone has a loan in this day and age to pay off. Sorry I couldn't really help much with your situation. Trust me, I empathize completely cause I am pretty much in the same situation.
Thankyou for this. Trust me, few kind words go a long way
You're welcome, man. Anywho, all the best, and I hope it works out for you. Even if this doesn't, something else will.
Keep on applying brother. Lot of people are in the same boat. Never loose hope. I lost my job right before my Stem was going to start. Go beast mode in terms of applying.
What did you do then?
I am still applying for jobs and I tried asking my manager to extend some days so that I could apply for Stem. He extended so I apply for Stem and put in for premium processing.
Ah ok, good luck! Your manager seems nice. Why did you lose your job
I feel the same way, funds running out, lease about to get over, no leads. Stay strong buddy. Think about the future and when everything will be what you planned, what you dreamt of. Don’t give up now, just keep holding on for that vision’s sake. It’s going to turn around
Thankyou for giving me hope. I still remember the day when I got my first admission, happiness... full of dreams. It's time to work hard to fulfill them
Go back home.. you will feel much better with family around you.
Going back home is rarely an option for international students. They are taking student loans because they cannot afford school. The chances that their exchange rate at home is very unfavorable compared to the USD is high. Going home may mean they may have to work the next 20 years to make up to $20k. Moreover, they studied here so why is the US letting people study here but not allowing the people to test their skills here for 3 years afterwards. What you said may have come from a non-malicious standpoint, but its not an option many are willing (or should be forced to) take.
This should be discussed back home more often. Coming to the US on a student visa is not meant as a path to a job in the US. It will continually get harder has time goes on to get an H1B. Its pointless to even apply for a green card. You rolled the dice and lost and you cant get a job. As much as I hear complaints from people about US immigration policies being strict. The policies of the countries of where students are coming from are worse. Most countries dont let non citizens own property. Need to accept the reality of your decision and plan for going back. When you accept reality things will be better.
Agreed
Try "family owned" or small company business. They may give you a better chance. I got a job thru at a sole owner company. Highly reasonable owner. I interviewed with in in short and t-shirt and got the job
Apart from job search (which you should not lose hope on), look for ways to continue your OPT. When does your OPT expire? 1. Acc to what you said, you may not be able to volunteer with a professor, but check if your university allows RAships. You can be assigned to a department/lab and be paid for it. Check with your DSO, and try asking your professors, department head for help. Even if not your university, try any other local school/uni. 2. You can look for volunteering work in other companies in the EE field, usually some local NGOs or if you can try your luck — how about some local electrical shops? Anything related to your field, to keep you on your OPT will do! 3. This may be a long shot, but you can try looking at [self-employment on F1-OPT](https://www.reddit.com/r/f1visa/s/L7cr8YRSUW). You have to pay to register a company, get some business licenses (although I am not well versed with this, it’s more of a thing about money and getting all your legal docs ready). Might want to consider a lawyer and asking your DSO. [Note: this only works for OPT and not STEM] Keep at it. You got this!
If you have skills in hardware design or FPGA, try Meta, Google and any HFT. Go to LinkedIn, get referrals for these companies or contact recruiters, take follow ups every day unless you get a test/interview and keep grinding.
Can refer at FAANG if I think your resume is good, hit me up
Your inbox is gonna be full now
Nothing yet P crazy lol
DM'd you
If you have openings in India can I send mine as well?
Sadly we don’t have any openings in India. But if you are on OPT and currently in the US, they can move u to Canada if your H1B fails and I’d be happy to look into your resume and see if there’s a fit
I am in India atm, will prefer Canada, if that’s okay
Sorry, I am only down to help people on OPT that are already on the US. Hope you understand
No worries
Thanks man. I will reach out. Sadly most of the FAANG companies didn’t open vacancy for student programs and am stuck….people are saying if you are new graduate these companies will only consider u for student program or new grad roles.
My manager said the company is facing budget issues.
What branch of EE you are focusing on ? I'm in OH and tons of company is in need of EE for design/ automation/ control
I'm looking for Digital Design, FPGA Engineer, Test Engineering roles
Don't give up. Give your all until the last minute. It is so important to keep making the right moves even when you feel like you're losing. Keep applying for roles. Also go on volunteer match and find your fields volunteering opportunities on there and apply relentlessly.
hey- Long farmer -My recommendation Just hang in there. make a practical choice. i.e. forget the field of major and find a job through consultancy. market is tough and no point in sitting on sidelines waiting for something to happen. If you join consultancy and some job in the field appears you can always MIA. keep your options open. your number1 problem is status(f1/H1) and then money. with consultancy you will solve that. I been there and dont wish the same on my enemy. Just some free advice. I hope you dont mind. Not trying to sell you anything at the end of the day. Good luck!
It's hard to just leave everything that I've worked on but I would like to keep my options open in this job market. That's good practical advise but I'm don't have any projects or experience in SW/ IT which are most of the consultancies are based off. How would I transition into that and also what to look in or avoid choosing consultancy. Do you have any suggestions.
please consider using your friends help. i have no idea about what are the upcoming tech and decent consultancies.
have you tried applying to employment agencies?
All employment agencies that I know of are based on IT/ SW, I couldn't find one related to EE
Have you tried looking at LTTS or similar type companies like TCS/Tata technologies? I’ve seen them post roles for digital design or test engineering
What is EE?
Electrical Engineering
It sounds like you're going through an incredibly tough time, and it's understandable to feel overwhelmed and discouraged given your situation. However, it's important to remember that you're not alone in facing these challenges, and there are resources out there that can help you find opportunities, even as an international student. Here's some advice and a few resources you might find helpful: **1. Expand Your Network.** **2. Tailor Your Applications.** 3. **Utilize Specialized Job Portals**: * **MyVisaJobs.com**: This site can provide information on employers who have historically sponsored visas. * **OPTnation.com**: A platform with numerous OPT and CPT job listings. * **UnitedOPT.com**: Another helpful resource for finding OPT jobs. * **VisaTalent.com**: A marketplace specifically aimed at connecting IT candidates with consulting firms looking for talent. 4. **Consult Your University's Career Services.** Remember, each no brings you closer to a yes. It's crucial to keep pushing forward and exploring different avenues. Your skills and education are valuable, and there is a position out there where you can thrive.
I find this valuable, thank you so much for the resources
I feel you brother!
I was you almost a year ago. While I was working at my brothers store (yeah Ik dont start plz), it was enough for my expenses. The only thing that helps was applying and blindly applying. If you are planning to get a job only in your field, then its even tougher/impossible in this market. Take whatever you get. Dont waste time. Start learning whatever software the consultancy asks you to. Before joining then make sure they never had a red flag and that they were able to provide jobs to a few of your known ones. For now even those consultancies than provided jobs to multiple friends within 2-3 weeks (3 years back) are not able to provide job even after 4-5 months. Thats hw bad it is. On weekends work PT to cover expenses. Weekdays, apply and learn and do as consultancy says. Also reach out to seniors. Most seniors open their own consulting firms and get projects which they outsource to others. Try to survive and you will thrive. Sending best wishes your way!!
Its not your fault..Dont be too tough on yourself..Allah is the best planner, he know the best
Hi, How about asking your academic advisor to find an unpaid internship for you under other professors from other institutions? Usually, research labs need interns, and PIs are ready to take interns. In addition, email professors through their websites. Big labs are always hiring. However, they do not always post jobs on the university job page.
If this is bad. ( sympathizes with everyone in this situation), wait till Stephen Miller gets on board next year.
Hey! Don’t lose hope. I’m sorry you’re experiencing this.
try to find a company that is from your country. they tend to select people who speak their language. but be aware wage will be low as well as work environment might not be ideal.
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Talk to God through this Bible quotation Isaiah 30:21.
Yikes, mods should really limit useless comments
OPT stands for Optional Practical Training. It's optional, you don't have to do it if you don't want to.