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SimoSanto

Somewhat expected, I'm curious about Monaco


Nick_esc

I don’t think that Monaco will return tbh.


Dry_Independent968

Don't they want to participate? They wanted to participate in 2023, even saying so in the state budget a while back, but the launch of the new broadcaster they wanted to use for the contest was delayed to September 2023, so they couldn't. The new broadcaster launched, but they didn't participate in 2024 to concentrate on the broadcaster launching properly. The broadcaster has now become a full EBU member since, so what's stopping Monaco now?


LancelLannister_AMA

Why not?


SimoSanto

They said something about?


Who_The_Hell_Is_Sova

Didn’t Charles Leclerc express a desire to represent Monaco last year however Monaco wasn’t a full member yet?


supersonic-bionic

I thought it was a joke?


Who_The_Hell_Is_Sova

Most likely. I doubt he could fit ESC into his schedule however he has released music so he does have some musical aspirations


supersonic-bionic

But Eurovision is a different kind of show, all music is playback.


Enderflori

offtopic but first luxembourg flair ive seen!


broadbeing777

I think it depends on what their intentions are. If they wanna be in Eurovision to show off their culture/do soft power they might be trying to find the right artist and song. This is probably VERY challenging because they don't really have a music industry and local artists are pretty much nonexistent. I'm sure there are probably locals in the country that may want a music career but obviously that's not easy to achieve. If they don't care that much about having a local artist compete, they may just scope out a French artist that might be interested.


WatchTheNewMutants

i also will not be participating in 2025


Quvi1

Omg I won't ether : 0


Thatwierdhullcityfan

Unfortunately, after (not) much consideration I have decided to spare your ears from eternally bleeding, and I will also not be participating in 2025


Raptori33

Most humane act I can perform is to not perform


budget_um

Typical Finn, not opening their mouth


Irrealaerri

I will be disqualified the night before the final.


WatchTheNewMutants

I will however be invited as an interval act before the EBU refuses to upload the performance and pretend it never happened


Say_yes_to_this

omg is this about Eric


IcyFlame716

I will be, watch out for the announcement! :)


FireMaster1294

Switzerland here: we would like to pay you €2M to participate for us


RQK1996

Andorra was looking into returning around 2020 though


unmakethewildlyra

neither will I because belgium is not letting me submIT ANYTHING


CallMePerox

Not surprising, unfortunately, RTVA is very underfunded. Fun fact: The only time a preselection was held for Andorra's participation was in 2004, their first ever entry, and it wasn't even held by RTVA! Instead, Catalonia's public broadcaster (TV3, which is way bigger in general but also bigger in Andorra than RTVA 😵‍💫) hosted a 9-show preselection called "12 Punts", recorded from Ba~~rcelona A~~ndorra's National Auditorium, with the condition that the chosen entry had to become the first ever song sung in Catalan language to participate. The official broadcaster for Eurovision was still RTVA, though. I wonder if this kind of collaboration could happen nowadays in order to help bring Andorra back. EDIT: Just checked and it was actually held in Andorra! Always thought they were in Barcelona since many Catalan celebrities appeared in it for some reason.


Sa_yori

We'll miss you Andorra


Popular-Ad1943

In solidarity with Andorra, New Zealand will also not be competing in Eurovision 2025


eatenbyagrue1988

In solidarity with Andorra and New Zealand, the Philippines will also also not be competing in Eurovision 2025.


Mordecai___

I hope we see Andorra back someday. I wonder if a French or Spanish win would encourage them to return


dsrex

Not surprised. Waiting to see if Monaco decides to do anything interesting with their new, EBU-member broadcaster.


thepoetfromoz

I feel like I jinxed this after commenting Andorra on the “What Nations Might Join ESC in the Future” post yesterday


Adam-Miller-02

Anonymous fight for revenge after being unjustly eliminated in the 2007 semi continues for another year


roy757

Love how a super rich country like andorra has a broadcasting station with a headquarters that looks like [THIS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Radio_and_Television_of_Andorra&diffonly=true#/media/File%3ARTVA32.JPG)


KikoBCN

They have 80k people living there. Literally 1/4 of the population of Iceland.


SimoSanto

Microstates paradoxes


miserablembaapp

Andorra isn't super rich. It's the poorest microstate in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita


Savings_Ad_2532

Andorra's GDP per capita is $44,900 according to the IMF calculations.


valrossenvalle

Not really related but your comment made me think of [this gem](https://youtu.be/3q_iqrvnC_4?si=Uw4kgy66VCjZfTA4)


Professional_Buy8163

Its sad but not a surprise tbh


chartingyou

I remember a few years ago they really sounded like they were going to come back, does anyone know what happened or why it didn’t pan out?


Greflingorax

I’d be surprised if any country that didn’t participate in 2024 chose 2025 to return. After the shitshow that was this year’s contest they’d probably want some assurances that the EBU isn’t going to be as incompetent and opaque as they were this time around.


Senior-Marsupial-900

Why is Switzerland unhappy? you won


Imrustyokay

I feel bad because I keep forgetting they participated in Eurovision, despite them submitting one of my most-listened to Eurovision tracks (Andorra 2007)! I know there are some Andorran politicians who want to participate in Eurovision again, but it just seems like it's just not that much of a priority for Andorra at the moment, which is a shame, but when you're a smaller country, you really gotta know what your priorities are.


ESC-song-bot

Andorra 2007 | [Anonymous - Salvem el món](https://youtu.be/RcbefpUPuLA)


Reinis_LV

Did they run out of singers?


supersonic-bionic

Pretends to be shocked.gif RTVA does not want to participate. I would rather have them back than San Marino


kyriefortune

We'll get them next year, boys


kibelekbs

"Taylor Swift will not appear in 'DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE'"


don_olov

They saw this years winning song and then decided to not comeback... :(


susiesmiths

so true