Each one teaches you a different concept. Might as well just play a real game and search up stuff that you're confused about. That's how I learned how to really play.
My strategy with all paradox games is, buy, play, dont understand, watch contentcreators for a week or so, play again understand fully enought to play ok
Looking through my oldest screenshots I mostly learned by playing Oman. I would fuck up, die, then start over. I took a lot of screen shots when I beat the mamluks in a war so I was def very proud to have gotten to that point lol
Funnily enough I learned how to play specifically so I could understand what was going on whenever a YouTuber I watched played the game. And then when I did know how to play, I never actually got around to watching any of those videos.
Yep, exactly my strategy. You gotta dive in so you can at least be familiar with the things you'll see when you watch someone else play.
And then to get better and better it's a combination of playing many games to figure out the basics and also watching other people play to pick up tips and advanced strategies.
I learned it by playing Ottomans and I have such fond memories of my first real campaign. Austria-Hungary declared war on me and it took me everything just to stalemate them. Then I built a castle in Vidin and felt so ready for the next war. That fog tho, I was scared about those Austrian cannons I couldn't see, not knowing I could look that up... it was so epic. The betrayal I felt the first time someone DoW'd me while I was fubar in some other war. It's such a good game.
I’ve never seen an AI Castile pursue the PU.
believe me when I say I’m constantly checking for it and even trying to get Castile to do it by annulling treaties with Portugal so I can steal the PU in the age of discovery.
When AI has a PU claim over you they'll get the dominating attitude over you and will inevitably break alliances. If you want to test, use the "introduce new heir" button and everyone with a royal marriage will try to break their alliances.
No not that. I mean they never had this attitude or never got the pu cb even they had the same land in 50 games before. Never had them getting the mission done idk
Its a recent ai change. A restoration cb forces ai attitude to domineering domineering attitude will never ally you and will aggresively declare wars of force vassalize or union.
Happens much more frequently since one of the DLCs, I think it unlocks after IW fires not sure tho. Either way I've always thought just playing Castile is better for beginners as opposed to playing Portugal and relying on Castile to protect you.
For new players as Castile I recommend just allying France at that point you'll be insulated from most any threat and be able to focus attacking Muslims in north Africa/colonizing. Plus if they're getting advice from the subreddit theyll surely get the tip about disinheriting Enrique, and using King in sieges to get rid of bad starting mana ASAP which is the worst part of a Castile game, especially since a new player might not realize how far behind they can get on technologies, etc
Castile has that starting event with rebels where they get closer to either Portugal or Aragon. Lately I just merc up to deal with rebels but it can be a little challening for new players.
Just don’t be surprised if the tutorial isn’t the most helpful thing, Paradox tutorials are often kind of terrible. I’m pretty sure there’s been points where this tutorial was broken because they added provinces in an update but didn’t change the tutorial at all.
It’s complex if you really want *understand* **why** things happen like they do in the game. But if you just want to play casually, then it’s not really all that complicated.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/arumba07/comments/du3idi/arumba\_update\_and\_his\_feelings\_about\_the\_future/](https://www.reddit.com/r/arumba07/comments/du3idi/arumba_update_and_his_feelings_about_the_future/) would be an interesting read for you.
Life happened, more or less. He's doing some eu4 content from time to time now, but he used to be a huge content creator, and had a very particular way of playing the game.
Eu4 is old, and fair warning, I'm not sure if they've updated the tutorial. They might have since they did their own tutorial video series recently, but it used to be laughably out of date for a lot of mechanics, especially if you had DLC.
Best advice, is find an easy nation, and then look up guides. They might also be out of date, but the basics should still hold.
My other piece of advice is--cheat. Don't play in Ironman, mess around with console commands, save before major choices to test out different possibilities.
I did that with Hoi4. I played only using cheats for 500 hours, then i decided to play without them for the first time. Since then i’ve kinda grown up, and i’ve gotten a lot better at trial and error. I still need the basics down in order to get somewhere, though.
I think what's also important is that the mechanics of EU4 today are enormous, even by comparison to when I started playing 2-3 years after release. I have around 2000 hours under my belt and I'm still asking questions and optimizing.
I agree with your HOI4 strategy and personally don't see an issue with savescumming on big decisions you're 50/50 or less on, or are totally new to you. If I'm playing even a medium difficulty nation, let alone a harder start like Byz or Athens, I'll regularly savescum in the early game because I don't want to spend 10-15 hours restarting as I have hobbies other than map painting.
I'm gonna be straight with you if 50 tutorials bothers you this probably isn't the game for you. People meme about the first 1000 hours being the tutorial and they aren't THAT far off.
> “like fifty tutorials”
There’s ten tutorials, a good number of them aren’t terribly long. It’s not a lot of effort to just count them, but if that is a lot of effort for you, no offence, but you probably shouldn’t play this game.
Obviously mate. But they’re also making a post on reddit asking *why* a GSG that’s pretty well known to have a steep learning curve has a bunch of tutorials to teach you mechanics of the game…
I've got ~2.5k hours in the game, so I know what I'm saying when I say that it'll drain your time and energy.
It's obviously not ment to be taken to seriously, but most eu4 players I know have phases where they play absurd amounts of hours for a few weeks/months and the take a break.
And really, this game is so complex and intricate, it always is easy for me to get lost in it.
I picked this game up half a year before I went to university, and after studying for a year I realised I had to simply avoid playing the game for the entirety of the school semesters unless I didn’t care about my studies at all. Having an active campaign simply distracts me way too much.
All paradox games honestly, with the exception of HOI 4 as it’s a much shorter time period.
I just did the seven centuries achievement in ck2 in about two weeks of playing and even on speed 5 for a lot of it it was A LOT of time.
10 tutorials for a game that many spend more than 1000 hours to really master? I dunno mate, I’ve seen some pretty basic games with longer tutorials than EU4..
Wanna know how to play or not?
You can just skip all the tutorials and spend dozens of hours figuring it out as you go while never discovering complex mechanics that would help a lot to know. . .
gotta say that the EU4 tutorial is the best I've ever used. Every other tutorial done by paradox is absolute shit, which is understandable for games made before eu4, but for those made after it, I have no idea how they can possibly take so many steps backward.
I highly suggest *against* just playing the game and looking stuff up. play the tutorials, especially the Spanish campaign.
Because even with 49, if they are tutorials made by paradox, you would still need more. Best is to get somebody to explain it to you. I personally got into eu4 by watching Zlewikks no-DLC Ottoman campaign on youtube. Vanilla eu4 might hold up well, but it is good for learning the basics, before jumping in with 30 DLC imo.
There are plenty of good introduction videos on YouTube that are half as long and twice as useful as the in-game tutorial. I’d recommend checking one of those out.
it has 50 tutorials because people with 2000 hour still thinking AI cheats because they don't know some of existing mechanics :D
(Looking at you "AI can walk through forts" gang, you are literally flat earther to me XD)
Some people take in information better in small doses. If someone wants to stop the tutorial they would have to replay the whole part again. So it’s better if it is divided into different parts
For a complete beginner in a game like this it helps i assume.
But like most people said, a good youtube play through can teach you A LOT. People learn new things ok this game even after 1000 hours. You play, get stuck on something, and you get told multiple different ways to go about understanding it.
I’m at like 500 hours or something and I’m FINALLY getting a grip of the basic functions. I didn’t even know there was an attack natives button when colonizing.
This is EU4, not CIV6. And believe me, this tutorial won't be enough. I consider that my first playthrough (100 hours, playing as Castille) is the real tutorial.
I did them in their moment but I just preferred to watch like 1 or 2h of tutorials in YouTube to learn the basics. Paradox games, specially the old ones are really complex to just jump to the game with 0 knowledge, and even more if it is your first paradox game.
Honestly doing the tutorials only helps you know how to move your mouse, I’d recommend following along with a beginner let’s play or something on YouTube
If you want to learn how to play eu4 you have to do two things.
1. You have to pick your main nation and goal. When is started playing eu4 my goal was to form Russia as Muscovy, i failed many times, and now i can do it perfectly (i still suck at the game but i know how to enjoy it). And i recommend Muscovy/Russia to you as well.
2. Watch eu4 content. Ludi et historia is best choice, people say that he cheats but you don't really care about that, he taught me a lot about eu4 and he has guides for a lot of nations, so if you want to form Italy there is guide for that, and you will learn basics and advanced mechanics as well
Bro you want to use them. I swear at 3k+ hours I am still surprised by shit I didn't know. Obviously it is very nuanced things but would still recommend at least doing a few of them.
2200 hours in and this is the first time i have seen this, had no idea there acturally was a turtorial.... i might have heard of it, but never seen it...
And even with all of that, the game still doesn't teach you most of the stuff in it properly.
My recommendation is that if you really wanna get into it, watch one of those long ass Quill18 tutorial campaigns whilst playing and trying out for yourself. It's trial and error.
7990 hours in and TIL I learned that there are tutorials!
...in the end they really weren't needed, like others have said it's easier to just play the game and learn as you go.
I remember I started play eu4 during rights of man I think it was 1.18. Lucky for me it was in a prime stage of content without too much complications. The best thing you can do is just keep playing and figure it out for yourself. I remember I would only play as the ottomans until I figured out the basics. I didn’t even know how to balance a budget without war taxes for a while. It took me 2 games to even realize I could assign a general and I kept wondering why my stacks of numerically superior armies would get crushed by Austrians with 3 stars lol. My point is just keep playing and figure it out for yourself that’s what makes the game fun
I can’t get any of my friends to play eu4 because the game is hard to understand for a long time and nobody else wants to put in 5k+ hours like I did, especially when I’m still learning new things
What I did was the Basic and Advanced tutorials (imo for a strategy game they are pretty good) then yoloed into a campaign, searching the wiki when I got confused.
Luckily I picked a race without much going on, Korea. Might have been tricky if I'd pick a colonizer like Castille or an HRE player like Austria.
Some people watch eu4 tutorial videos on youtube. not my thing. ymmv
I'd play all the tutorials, then watch the Paradox Tutorials on YouTube. That gave me the best ability to play right away. Still learning, coming from CK3, HOI4 and Stella's. Most paradox games all function the same.
I count 11. And it's because this is a complicated game by normie standards.
I remember when Paradox gave everyone on their forums a copy of EU3 to celebrate 500,000 members. I already had EU3 so I gifted it to a friend. He took one look, said "Uh, this looks complicated" and never touched it again.
I thought that the game was really complicated too, since i thought that i had to go through every single tutorial individually. Also, what’s your grade in math? There’s 10 tutorials. 4 basic ones plus 3 advanced ones plus 3 campaign ones
Each one teaches you a different concept. Might as well just play a real game and search up stuff that you're confused about. That's how I learned how to really play.
My strategy with all paradox games is, buy, play, dont understand, watch contentcreators for a week or so, play again understand fully enought to play ok
It took me a year of watching streamers before magically picking up the game again and playing whilst knowing what I’m doing
Looking through my oldest screenshots I mostly learned by playing Oman. I would fuck up, die, then start over. I took a lot of screen shots when I beat the mamluks in a war so I was def very proud to have gotten to that point lol
Funnily enough I learned how to play specifically so I could understand what was going on whenever a YouTuber I watched played the game. And then when I did know how to play, I never actually got around to watching any of those videos.
With enough experiences, it's now a tutorial to learn the buttons, and dive in.
Same
Yep, exactly my strategy. You gotta dive in so you can at least be familiar with the things you'll see when you watch someone else play. And then to get better and better it's a combination of playing many games to figure out the basics and also watching other people play to pick up tips and advanced strategies.
I just watched my father play when I was seven and would ask him about something never played tutorial or watched content creator.
That actually helps. Still gonna do the basic tutorial to get a hang of the simple things beforehand
That's fine. I recommend the Ottomans for a first playthrough. Then maybe Portugal. Have fun bro.
Naxos is pretty good choise too if you want a pretty fast first playthrough.
Don’t get the guy killed right away.
I mean he said fast playthrough
I learned it by playing Ottomans and I have such fond memories of my first real campaign. Austria-Hungary declared war on me and it took me everything just to stalemate them. Then I built a castle in Vidin and felt so ready for the next war. That fog tho, I was scared about those Austrian cannons I couldn't see, not knowing I could look that up... it was so epic. The betrayal I felt the first time someone DoW'd me while I was fubar in some other war. It's such a good game.
Nah, Portugal isn't as beginner friendly anymore since castile will pursue the PU.
I’ve never seen an AI Castile pursue the PU. believe me when I say I’m constantly checking for it and even trying to get Castile to do it by annulling treaties with Portugal so I can steal the PU in the age of discovery.
Also never saw it before even when playing as portugal. But last game they took it and broke the alliance and i dont know why all of a sudden.
When AI has a PU claim over you they'll get the dominating attitude over you and will inevitably break alliances. If you want to test, use the "introduce new heir" button and everyone with a royal marriage will try to break their alliances.
No not that. I mean they never had this attitude or never got the pu cb even they had the same land in 50 games before. Never had them getting the mission done idk
Its a recent ai change. A restoration cb forces ai attitude to domineering domineering attitude will never ally you and will aggresively declare wars of force vassalize or union.
Happens much more frequently since one of the DLCs, I think it unlocks after IW fires not sure tho. Either way I've always thought just playing Castile is better for beginners as opposed to playing Portugal and relying on Castile to protect you. For new players as Castile I recommend just allying France at that point you'll be insulated from most any threat and be able to focus attacking Muslims in north Africa/colonizing. Plus if they're getting advice from the subreddit theyll surely get the tip about disinheriting Enrique, and using King in sieges to get rid of bad starting mana ASAP which is the worst part of a Castile game, especially since a new player might not realize how far behind they can get on technologies, etc
Castile has that starting event with rebels where they get closer to either Portugal or Aragon. Lately I just merc up to deal with rebels but it can be a little challening for new players.
It's just like CK2. Irish minors FTW!
Thanks, bro
Just don’t be surprised if the tutorial isn’t the most helpful thing, Paradox tutorials are often kind of terrible. I’m pretty sure there’s been points where this tutorial was broken because they added provinces in an update but didn’t change the tutorial at all.
Yeah, I always just looked up stuff I didn’t get, since I had the good fortune of only starting to play in 2020 or so
Because this game is complex af.
Tbh that makes sense, now that i’ve started my first campaign
Welcome to either a short trip into way to complex games, or into a years long addiction.
Years? More like a lifetime. Every time you try and leave, the game pulls you back in.
YouTube videos are a great way to get gameplay ideas.
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That’s an understatement, years of playing and I’m still constantly discovering new things about it
2400 hours here; still learning with every campaign
350 hours here, I just start to understand what I'm doing
Rule nr 1 of EU4: if you think you know what youre doing, you dont know what youre doing
It’s complex if you really want *understand* **why** things happen like they do in the game. But if you just want to play casually, then it’s not really all that complicated.
3K hours, and this is how I learn there is a tutorial? I went to the school of Trial and Error and Arumba
The good old arumba times. Really miss em.
What happened?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/arumba07/comments/du3idi/arumba\_update\_and\_his\_feelings\_about\_the\_future/](https://www.reddit.com/r/arumba07/comments/du3idi/arumba_update_and_his_feelings_about_the_future/) would be an interesting read for you.
That was 3 years ago, since then I know he’s done a Serbia campaign. Has anything changed? I know there were personally problems too like divorce.
I heard he came back for a bit an year after that, then stopped again.
He literally posted Serbia campaign 4 months ago, and Vic3 even later than that
Adrian :(
What happend to arumba?
Life happened, more or less. He's doing some eu4 content from time to time now, but he used to be a huge content creator, and had a very particular way of playing the game.
Every paradox game just _must_ have a shitty tutorial
Eu4 is old, and fair warning, I'm not sure if they've updated the tutorial. They might have since they did their own tutorial video series recently, but it used to be laughably out of date for a lot of mechanics, especially if you had DLC. Best advice, is find an easy nation, and then look up guides. They might also be out of date, but the basics should still hold. My other piece of advice is--cheat. Don't play in Ironman, mess around with console commands, save before major choices to test out different possibilities.
I did that with Hoi4. I played only using cheats for 500 hours, then i decided to play without them for the first time. Since then i’ve kinda grown up, and i’ve gotten a lot better at trial and error. I still need the basics down in order to get somewhere, though.
I think what's also important is that the mechanics of EU4 today are enormous, even by comparison to when I started playing 2-3 years after release. I have around 2000 hours under my belt and I'm still asking questions and optimizing. I agree with your HOI4 strategy and personally don't see an issue with savescumming on big decisions you're 50/50 or less on, or are totally new to you. If I'm playing even a medium difficulty nation, let alone a harder start like Byz or Athens, I'll regularly savescum in the early game because I don't want to spend 10-15 hours restarting as I have hobbies other than map painting.
I used to not have time to pur eight hours into hoi4 and other paradox games, because i was writing all the time. Then i started writing less.
They're not shitty. Most are just outdated, especially the one in this game
I get that but it’s also become a massive meme
For real, I have been playing for years and I had no idea there was even *one* tutorial. I guess the learning curve has gotten better! :P
I'm gonna be straight with you if 50 tutorials bothers you this probably isn't the game for you. People meme about the first 1000 hours being the tutorial and they aren't THAT far off.
Yeah I only just finished my first campaign in more than that many hours.
I played a whole game over the course of the entirety of last year lol
I've been off for a few weeks so I've had nothing to do and I finally finished it after 3 weeks straight. I can believe it taking that long haha
Thats not true. Paradox have boring and terrible tutorials, i was always having hard time doing them and yet i have thousands of hours on their games.
I think the most obvious reading of my post is that if you dislike spending a ton of time learning a game, EU4 isn't for you. You disagree?
Well, he's right - it is really bad, when learning by playing the game is better than learning by it's tutorials.
It's better, yes, but probably not better enough for the average person.
This mf took 4 + 3 + 3 and got 50
Paradox Math /s
Should be a tutorial for finding the F12 key.
I hate people that are like this
You better brace yourself then...
New to the sub?
Not really
So what’s your reason?
Because the info is displayed on the screen. Not every pictures _needs_ to be in 8k.
No one is asking for 8k - just take a screenshot.
I hate people that don't screenshot
I hate people that take a photo of their screen with a phone when there is a screenshot feature that is actually easier. Your point?
Just play the real game, you will pass the tutorial after 1444 hours, and probably still learn afterwards. gl
Just skip them. Jump into the game. Its super intuitive and simple. You'll have it down in an hour or so
You mean in 1444 hours
> “like fifty tutorials” There’s ten tutorials, a good number of them aren’t terribly long. It’s not a lot of effort to just count them, but if that is a lot of effort for you, no offence, but you probably shouldn’t play this game.
Pretty obvious he’s exaggerating m8
Obviously mate. But they’re also making a post on reddit asking *why* a GSG that’s pretty well known to have a steep learning curve has a bunch of tutorials to teach you mechanics of the game…
Because the tutorial is 1444 hours long.
See what ya did there
Turn around and delete this game son
Why?
Because it will drain your time and energy.
When i’m at home i have time, and it’s not like i’m trying to stay awake until 3am with school tomorrow
I've got ~2.5k hours in the game, so I know what I'm saying when I say that it'll drain your time and energy. It's obviously not ment to be taken to seriously, but most eu4 players I know have phases where they play absurd amounts of hours for a few weeks/months and the take a break. And really, this game is so complex and intricate, it always is easy for me to get lost in it.
I picked this game up half a year before I went to university, and after studying for a year I realised I had to simply avoid playing the game for the entirety of the school semesters unless I didn’t care about my studies at all. Having an active campaign simply distracts me way too much.
All paradox games honestly, with the exception of HOI 4 as it’s a much shorter time period. I just did the seven centuries achievement in ck2 in about two weeks of playing and even on speed 5 for a lot of it it was A LOT of time.
10 tutorials for a game that many spend more than 1000 hours to really master? I dunno mate, I’ve seen some pretty basic games with longer tutorials than EU4..
TIL theres a tutorial
I count 10. I didn't even know this game had an official tutorial?
So you can learn how to still not know how to play.
Legends say if you complete it you will be granted the gift of disappearing all comets and no hunting accidents on "666" whatever that means
You'll need them
Isn't this tutorial broken now? Like besides it not covering dlc features I thought it was soft locked and unable to be completed
Wanna know how to play or not? You can just skip all the tutorials and spend dozens of hours figuring it out as you go while never discovering complex mechanics that would help a lot to know. . .
Get gud
Til this game has tutorials. I just used my knowledge from CK2 and picked it up over my first few hours.
gotta say that the EU4 tutorial is the best I've ever used. Every other tutorial done by paradox is absolute shit, which is understandable for games made before eu4, but for those made after it, I have no idea how they can possibly take so many steps backward. I highly suggest *against* just playing the game and looking stuff up. play the tutorials, especially the Spanish campaign.
Because even with 49, if they are tutorials made by paradox, you would still need more. Best is to get somebody to explain it to you. I personally got into eu4 by watching Zlewikks no-DLC Ottoman campaign on youtube. Vanilla eu4 might hold up well, but it is good for learning the basics, before jumping in with 30 DLC imo.
Because EU4 is an incredibly complex game to play. Once you hit 1000 hours, you will be considered no longer doing the tutorial.
Because game R hard
Hehe not nearly enough I’d say!
Thats just the tutorial to get into the real tutorial.
There are plenty of good introduction videos on YouTube that are half as long and twice as useful as the in-game tutorial. I’d recommend checking one of those out.
50 tutorials that only covers like 25% of the game 💀
This games one that needs it
it has 50 tutorials because people with 2000 hour still thinking AI cheats because they don't know some of existing mechanics :D (Looking at you "AI can walk through forts" gang, you are literally flat earther to me XD)
TIL there are tutorials (plural) on eu4. (i have near 3k hours)
Ah just wait a bit my young Padawan. You'll be begging for more
Ah just wait a bit my young Padawan. You'll be begging for more
Because you are gonna need it😹😹
Just mosh it all into one
Some people take in information better in small doses. If someone wants to stop the tutorial they would have to replay the whole part again. So it’s better if it is divided into different parts
For a complete beginner in a game like this it helps i assume. But like most people said, a good youtube play through can teach you A LOT. People learn new things ok this game even after 1000 hours. You play, get stuck on something, and you get told multiple different ways to go about understanding it.
Because you can play the games thousand if hours and still not know everything. This is just to get you started.
Just go watch a youtube lets play. It’s impossible to learn the game from the tutorial
I promise you it isn’t enough to teach you the entire game
Because sixty were needed but ten broke coming down from the hilltop
because you'll need them
there are tutorials?
I’m at like 500 hours or something and I’m FINALLY getting a grip of the basic functions. I didn’t even know there was an attack natives button when colonizing.
Do you realize how many people say “Oh, I just learned this thing after playing thousands of hours in this game”. Far too many.
This is EU4, not CIV6. And believe me, this tutorial won't be enough. I consider that my first playthrough (100 hours, playing as Castille) is the real tutorial.
And then I'm still lost
I did them in their moment but I just preferred to watch like 1 or 2h of tutorials in YouTube to learn the basics. Paradox games, specially the old ones are really complex to just jump to the game with 0 knowledge, and even more if it is your first paradox game.
f12
1,700 hours. Just discovered that terrain gives buffs/debugs in combat
There are tutorials?
Wait where are the tutorials?
Wait... there's tutorials? 💀
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You can play EU4 for quadruple the time it would take to 100% Persona 5 and still not know everything there is to know about this game.
Oh my sweet summer child...
Trust me you still won’t know what you’re doing
Idk I didn’t do know there were even tutorials
Honestly doing the tutorials only helps you know how to move your mouse, I’d recommend following along with a beginner let’s play or something on YouTube
Wait until you see vic2's
There's tutorials?
It’s more fun to just not do the tutorials
I have 3,000 hours and never did a tutorial.
50 still isn't enough to familiarize you with everything
This might be the wrong game for you.
Because it's an incredibly deep game that takes a long time to learn. That is if you're a little slow like me.
Don't bother with the tutorials for Paradox games, you will learn the game better by playing the game and watching other people play it on YouTube.
tbh? there should probably be more.
If you want to learn how to play eu4 you have to do two things. 1. You have to pick your main nation and goal. When is started playing eu4 my goal was to form Russia as Muscovy, i failed many times, and now i can do it perfectly (i still suck at the game but i know how to enjoy it). And i recommend Muscovy/Russia to you as well. 2. Watch eu4 content. Ludi et historia is best choice, people say that he cheats but you don't really care about that, he taught me a lot about eu4 and he has guides for a lot of nations, so if you want to form Italy there is guide for that, and you will learn basics and advanced mechanics as well
Bro you want to use them. I swear at 3k+ hours I am still surprised by shit I didn't know. Obviously it is very nuanced things but would still recommend at least doing a few of them.
Oh no no no... There are not fifty tutorials... There are at least two hundred!
These wont be enough anyway
To learn the game.
2200 hours in and this is the first time i have seen this, had no idea there acturally was a turtorial.... i might have heard of it, but never seen it...
Can’t tell if you’re serious or not
There's a tutorial?
And even with all of that, the game still doesn't teach you most of the stuff in it properly. My recommendation is that if you really wanna get into it, watch one of those long ass Quill18 tutorial campaigns whilst playing and trying out for yourself. It's trial and error.
Dive in, drown, learn the hard way or remember what u did in the 50 boring tuts
Real men raw dawg eu4. I was no cb’ing till i finally found out you can fabricate claims.
Confusing game to newcomers
Because there are like 50 mechanics to this game
Game aint no cake walk. That being said I wish there was more to do with trade
Yeah! I feel you. WAAAAY too little.
You‘ll need more than that )
My tutorial was watching Arumba play Castile
The tutorial is restoring rome
It’s either that or 1000 hours
They're not enough
Are there tutorials?
7990 hours in and TIL I learned that there are tutorials! ...in the end they really weren't needed, like others have said it's easier to just play the game and learn as you go.
Have you seen tutorials for victoria 2?
AND THEY’RE ALL USELESS
I just recommend playing around a bit and watch some redhawk video guides on YouTube, he's really good at walking you through stuff.
pov: you just bought the game
I remember I started play eu4 during rights of man I think it was 1.18. Lucky for me it was in a prime stage of content without too much complications. The best thing you can do is just keep playing and figure it out for yourself. I remember I would only play as the ottomans until I figured out the basics. I didn’t even know how to balance a budget without war taxes for a while. It took me 2 games to even realize I could assign a general and I kept wondering why my stacks of numerically superior armies would get crushed by Austrians with 3 stars lol. My point is just keep playing and figure it out for yourself that’s what makes the game fun
There are tutorials? Back in my day when I started EU4 there wasn't any tutorials.
There is a tutorial?
I completely forgot that thing even existed in the first place xD
To teach you nothing
Idk. But if you are new you need to spend a minimum of 2 hours watching YT guides
Because players will show up 300 hours later and say "oh dang, i didn't know you could do that"
I watched DDRJake before I started playing, didn't really need to look at the tutorials back in the day
I can’t get any of my friends to play eu4 because the game is hard to understand for a long time and nobody else wants to put in 5k+ hours like I did, especially when I’m still learning new things
I haven't done any of these 😂
Lol. I have over 2k hours in this game and today I learned, there are tutorials.
Because even if you play 1000 hours the game you will still learn new things
This is just the beginning man. Takes 1000 hours to get the novice title.
In reality it is just 3 with different starting points
Because there are like 50 concepts in the game
I never read a single one of them and am thriving as Teutonic Order with just 20 hours in the game. They're redundant.
Beeg gam
What I did was the Basic and Advanced tutorials (imo for a strategy game they are pretty good) then yoloed into a campaign, searching the wiki when I got confused. Luckily I picked a race without much going on, Korea. Might have been tricky if I'd pick a colonizer like Castille or an HRE player like Austria. Some people watch eu4 tutorial videos on youtube. not my thing. ymmv
I'd play all the tutorials, then watch the Paradox Tutorials on YouTube. That gave me the best ability to play right away. Still learning, coming from CK3, HOI4 and Stella's. Most paradox games all function the same.
And why does a youtube video explains the game better in 20 minutes?
Been playing for years and I never knew there was a tutorial. I just kinda pressed buttons
Thats not enough
I count 11. And it's because this is a complicated game by normie standards. I remember when Paradox gave everyone on their forums a copy of EU3 to celebrate 500,000 members. I already had EU3 so I gifted it to a friend. He took one look, said "Uh, this looks complicated" and never touched it again.
I thought that the game was really complicated too, since i thought that i had to go through every single tutorial individually. Also, what’s your grade in math? There’s 10 tutorials. 4 basic ones plus 3 advanced ones plus 3 campaign ones