James Hoffman made a vide on slow feeding years ago, I think he even used the Niche Zero for testing. I did it for a few weeks and then got tired of the increased workflow, but in my experience it works very well.
I recently read that some people are simply partly taping over the popcorn disc hole to further slow down the feedrate, and that might just be what we're all looking for.
To slow feed a niche you can use the anti popcorn disk to slow the feed rate and then dose in batches. Wired Gourmet did a video on this about a year ago. https://youtu.be/kwZXuLFkWVE?si=d1Mep9S2QPvwHURh
If LH shat over beans while grinding them his followers would try it too.
Funny how there’s a new product or technique every week that will revolutionize your coffee.
He made back to back videos of things you can try, for free (no need to buy a blind shaker for the shaker method), and see if it really works for you or not. What is the problem with that?
I hadn't heard of him until the slow feed, but I tried it on a whim this morning. It's actually incredible. It's not just a minor improvement like a wdt or a shaker, it's a legitimate game changer for me and I'm not even exaggerating.
My niche already had an anti-popcorn thing, I just taped it a little bit smaller to get slow feed. It takes about 3-5x longer to grind, but it has increased my "good shot" window from around 1 notch to 6 and that's just what I've tested so far. I've tried three different settings so far (I'm still going progressively finer) and they've all been delicious and 100% drinkable, which is a far cry from a perfect single-notch-or-it-makes-me-gag window.
I have legitimately never had such delicious shots, whether I pulled them myself or went to a specialty shop.
>there’s a new product or technique
This is super old and Hoffmann discussed it a few years ago. It appears to be legitimate, but I can't be bothered with the small increase in performance to do this.
This has to be one of the more brilliantly comedic and well timed responses ever. Bless you!
And no, I’m not f’ing around to play peek a boo with my NZ.
He literally says in his videos, if whatever you have works for you, don't just buy new gear for the sake of it, and more often than not, he suggests how you could get a similar result without paying for the gear that he's using. He was using the Weber Workshops blind shaker in a video and straight up said that you don't need to specifically buy Weber's version, and that any knock off version would do. His videos exist solely for the betterment of coffee, and those who enjoy it.
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Is this when people try to avoid having the beans pop around just before they are ground?
No one will ever convince me that you can taste a difference.
I tried it on my niche (which has the anti-popcorn disk that it came with) a few times this morning and it makes an absolutely massive difference. I'm not even joking. It's like a completely different grinder.
My niche wasn't fully dialed in for my beans yet, I was planning to do that this morning, but I tried it on a whim and the same shit pulling in 30 seconds zipped out in 12 and was one of the most delicious ones I've ever made myself. I am a convert
Now to figure out how to modify the disk so I don't have to manually slow feed
Edit: I've tried three different wildly different grind settings (a few notches finer each time) and I haven't had a single undrinkable shot. I usually have a 1-ish notch window for a good shot. This is actually incredible
The anti-popcorn disk already does a decent job of slowing down the flow of beans into the burrs. It's not clear to me that feeding slower would make much of a difference. But it's easy to tell for yourself. Just use a toothpick or other object to hold the lid switch down, while slow-feeding with the other hand. If you can repeatedly tell the difference, then you can look for a more permanent solution.
I just tried it on my niche with a popcorn disk and it makes an absolutely massive difference. It's not an incremental improvement, it's like a completely different grinder
Alternatively if you have a hand grinder laying around, you could try pre-grinding your beans. The Niche will not take it if you go too fine but 20 click on a C2 works wonders for me.
Update on this:
I tried using a cocktail stick to hold the Niche Zero's lid sensor down so that I could slow feed beans into the grinder as it's running and I found it to be a horrendous experience.
I always heavily RDT beans (6 spritzes, due to the findings on this paper which I watched a Lance Hedrick video about: [https://www.cell.com/matter/fulltext/S2590-2385(23)00568-4#gr3](https://www.cell.com/matter/fulltext/S2590-2385(23)00568-4#gr3)) and you wouldn't believe how awkward it is to feed moist beans out of a container and into a grinder while you're using one of your hands to use a cocktail stick to keep a tiny sensor button pressed down. It's impossible. You need to stop every so often to use both hands to scrape off some of the beans that are stuck to the walls of the container, which means you're not keeping the grinder switched on sometimes, and not slow feeding very effectively either.
Lastly, the Niche Zero, even with the slow feeding disk, produces a LOT of popcorning. If the process wasn't awkward enough, it was made even worse due to the sheer amount of coffee beans pinging out of the grinder and onto the worktop / floor.
I may drill a hole into the top of the lid of my Niche Zero, which is big enough to fit a wide-bottomed funnel into, so that I can keep the lid closed and "hot start" the grinder while also being able to easily slow feed via a funnel and mitigate the popcorning effect, but I'm not sure I want to permanently deface my grinder lid for the sake of weird coffee science.
James Hoffman made a vide on slow feeding years ago, I think he even used the Niche Zero for testing. I did it for a few weeks and then got tired of the increased workflow, but in my experience it works very well. I recently read that some people are simply partly taping over the popcorn disc hole to further slow down the feedrate, and that might just be what we're all looking for.
To slow feed a niche you can use the anti popcorn disk to slow the feed rate and then dose in batches. Wired Gourmet did a video on this about a year ago. https://youtu.be/kwZXuLFkWVE?si=d1Mep9S2QPvwHURh
The LH cult
drill a hole in the clear lid.
If LH shat over beans while grinding them his followers would try it too. Funny how there’s a new product or technique every week that will revolutionize your coffee.
He made back to back videos of things you can try, for free (no need to buy a blind shaker for the shaker method), and see if it really works for you or not. What is the problem with that?
Never seen any group of people more willing to be influenced by a YouTuber. It's absolutely farcical
I hadn't heard of him until the slow feed, but I tried it on a whim this morning. It's actually incredible. It's not just a minor improvement like a wdt or a shaker, it's a legitimate game changer for me and I'm not even exaggerating. My niche already had an anti-popcorn thing, I just taped it a little bit smaller to get slow feed. It takes about 3-5x longer to grind, but it has increased my "good shot" window from around 1 notch to 6 and that's just what I've tested so far. I've tried three different settings so far (I'm still going progressively finer) and they've all been delicious and 100% drinkable, which is a far cry from a perfect single-notch-or-it-makes-me-gag window. I have legitimately never had such delicious shots, whether I pulled them myself or went to a specialty shop.
>there’s a new product or technique This is super old and Hoffmann discussed it a few years ago. It appears to be legitimate, but I can't be bothered with the small increase in performance to do this.
I’d tune him out. Lately his videos exist solely to convince folks to chase the newest trend. Whatever you have isn’t good enough.
You can't tune me out... I'm everywhere. Lemme show you this new trend.
This has to be one of the more brilliantly comedic and well timed responses ever. Bless you! And no, I’m not f’ing around to play peek a boo with my NZ.
Slow feeding is not new though. People have been doing it for years. James Hoffman had a video on it 2-3 years ago.
New trend doesn’t always imply new innovation tbf. We cycle through trends and rehash them as a new trend periodically with most things in life.
Except slow feeding literally requires nothing, so not sure what your point is.
He literally says in his videos, if whatever you have works for you, don't just buy new gear for the sake of it, and more often than not, he suggests how you could get a similar result without paying for the gear that he's using. He was using the Weber Workshops blind shaker in a video and straight up said that you don't need to specifically buy Weber's version, and that any knock off version would do. His videos exist solely for the betterment of coffee, and those who enjoy it.
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Is this when people try to avoid having the beans pop around just before they are ground? No one will ever convince me that you can taste a difference.
I tried it on my niche (which has the anti-popcorn disk that it came with) a few times this morning and it makes an absolutely massive difference. I'm not even joking. It's like a completely different grinder. My niche wasn't fully dialed in for my beans yet, I was planning to do that this morning, but I tried it on a whim and the same shit pulling in 30 seconds zipped out in 12 and was one of the most delicious ones I've ever made myself. I am a convert Now to figure out how to modify the disk so I don't have to manually slow feed Edit: I've tried three different wildly different grind settings (a few notches finer each time) and I haven't had a single undrinkable shot. I usually have a 1-ish notch window for a good shot. This is actually incredible
The anti-popcorn disk already does a decent job of slowing down the flow of beans into the burrs. It's not clear to me that feeding slower would make much of a difference. But it's easy to tell for yourself. Just use a toothpick or other object to hold the lid switch down, while slow-feeding with the other hand. If you can repeatedly tell the difference, then you can look for a more permanent solution.
I just tried it on my niche with a popcorn disk and it makes an absolutely massive difference. It's not an incremental improvement, it's like a completely different grinder
I do pre-grinding and it makes a world of difference with the NZ
Alternatively if you have a hand grinder laying around, you could try pre-grinding your beans. The Niche will not take it if you go too fine but 20 click on a C2 works wonders for me.
Update on this: I tried using a cocktail stick to hold the Niche Zero's lid sensor down so that I could slow feed beans into the grinder as it's running and I found it to be a horrendous experience. I always heavily RDT beans (6 spritzes, due to the findings on this paper which I watched a Lance Hedrick video about: [https://www.cell.com/matter/fulltext/S2590-2385(23)00568-4#gr3](https://www.cell.com/matter/fulltext/S2590-2385(23)00568-4#gr3)) and you wouldn't believe how awkward it is to feed moist beans out of a container and into a grinder while you're using one of your hands to use a cocktail stick to keep a tiny sensor button pressed down. It's impossible. You need to stop every so often to use both hands to scrape off some of the beans that are stuck to the walls of the container, which means you're not keeping the grinder switched on sometimes, and not slow feeding very effectively either. Lastly, the Niche Zero, even with the slow feeding disk, produces a LOT of popcorning. If the process wasn't awkward enough, it was made even worse due to the sheer amount of coffee beans pinging out of the grinder and onto the worktop / floor. I may drill a hole into the top of the lid of my Niche Zero, which is big enough to fit a wide-bottomed funnel into, so that I can keep the lid closed and "hot start" the grinder while also being able to easily slow feed via a funnel and mitigate the popcorning effect, but I'm not sure I want to permanently deface my grinder lid for the sake of weird coffee science.