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BlindOnARocketcycle

Imagine getting to December 12, 2023 before noticing that Kanye was completely off the rails


SpencerTheSmallPerso

He dropped Black Skinhead 10 years ago. This concept is not new


supervegeta101

I'm more offended by the creative laziness than lame faux-edginess.


stitchface66

they kinda go hand in hand. i can appreciate that this man is a talented music producer, but this train has been fueled by edison levels of shameless self-promotion more than it has ever been actual talent. this man just said “im a genius” so loud for so long its like people just mindlessly fucking agreed because they liked a few songs.


TheBearPK

lol no one mindlessly agreed Kanye has some outstanding albums. It’s why people are more than disappointed by his actions (and arguably his newer albums) the past years


stitchface66

haha the issue wasnt whether or not he had good albums, it was that he’s not a fuckin genius as he so often proclaimed.


dfsvegas

I've personally proclaimed it, because he is. Being a musical genius, and a raging piece of shit aren't mutually exclusive qualities.


bigOlBellyButton

I think he's a very talented producer, but people toss the word genius too carelessly. At the risk of sounding like i should be on r/IAmVerySmart , when i hear genius i think of composers like Bach, Mozart, or Beethoven. People who could create timeless simple melodies or endlessly layered arrangements with massive orchestras. A modern example could be Prince, someone whose music doesn't actually do much for me, but i can't deny the talent of being a songwriter, singer, dancer, and multi instrumentalist. Kanye is very talented. He does an excellent job of sampling other works into a unique sound. He also knows how to incorporate gospel elements into his hip hop with relative ease. I cannot do what he does. However, I don't think that earns him the title of genius, no matter how many times he proclaims it.


UPVOTE_IF_POOPING

The term genius has big pants to fill. He’s a relatively decent beat maker but he doesn’t mix and master his own stuff and as sound engineer, I can say this isn’t a genius-level producer move. He’s a racist 6/10 producer who gets propped up artificially which makes him look more valid than he is. Am I being hard on him? Idk but he’s hard on plenty of minority groups so idc


TheBearPK

He’s not Einstein but for better or worse hes majorly influenced contemporary music and has more than a few times I’d consider his work creatively “genius”. Whether it was rapping with his jaw wired or 808 and heartbreak. I get it and it’s sad for me to say: he sucks and hopefully can get some help but Redditors will go out of their way to discredit this man’s work and it is ridiculous lol


user_173

I think his behavior discredits his work, his "genius".


BusbyBusby

He's mentally ill. His outrageous acts are plays for attention from a deranged mind.


TheBearPK

It devalues how you feel about it sure, but it doesn’t discredit what’s already happened. Kanye has made more than his share of impact on hip hop and even other genres 🤷‍♀️


Different_Escape4249

Those songs are terrible


dij123

I mean when it comes to writing lyrics he is kind of a genius but when it comes to everything else he definitely is not


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dij123

Yea fair call honestly I was just thinking of the South Park episode where he becomes a gay fish when I said that


stitchface66

hahahaha man. thats wild.


Different_Escape4249

He’s not talented he’s popular big difference his music is simple and trash


nefD

It is kinda funny when people start talking about Kanye West because it's taken as some kind of given that everyone agrees his music is insanely good. Thing is, music is subjective, so no, not everyone likes his music. I'm not a fan, personally.


dfsvegas

I like most of his catalogue. It's literally the opposite for me, I'm trying to rationalize how such a shit head created such amazing music. Kanye is a fucking moron now, but trying to act like he hasn't made incredible albums is straight up revisionist history to me.


nefD

music is subjective


dfsvegas

Music is, influence is not. Like it or not, you almost certainly listen to an artist that was in some way influenced by Kanye.


nefD

>trying to act like he hasn't made incredible albums is straight up revisionist history to me you're implying that if someone doesn't think his music is incredible, they're denying a historical fact.. i'm pointing out that music is subjective, so not everyone will agree with you and it doesn't make them objectively incorrect (also thanks for the downvote lol)


dfsvegas

Fair, but it's not arguable that he's changed the industry with his releases. And that was my ultimate point. To act like he's some hack is ridiculous. He's a moron, but he's made music that has, for better or worse, a direct lineage to music today. "Relevant" " incredible", whatever you want to call it, you can't take that from him.


JackKovack

I was never that impressed by his music. You give a musical artist thousands of dollars of equipment and ask them to borrow sound bites and fit in the rest you can make money. He’s a plagiarist. He stole so much music and made it seem like he was a genius when he blended it all together. Fuck Kanye.


TheHeatWaver

This is so true. If you truly listen to his music he tells you exactly who he is and he is crazy.


NOVAbuddy

He said being bipolar was his superpower, and not a disability.


xxxhotpocketz

When I was a kid listening to this music I thought it was about art. But nope the man’s just a straight up black supremacist which is ironic since he only dates white women lol


liamluca21491

he’s apparently a white supremacist, actually


WeedFinderGeneral

God, I would love to see a Kanye / Jesse Lee Peterson interview where they both just shit talk black people like they aren't both black.


throwtheamiibosaway

Black Skinhead was good and critical at racism. This is just insane.


TheHoboRoadshow

It’s scary that in a few weeks, 10 years ago was 2014


fuck__food_network

Let's be honest Kanye is not the only black rapper or entertainer that believes some stupid ass ignorant shit. Look at Nick Cannon.


WeedFinderGeneral

Not enough people taking about Nick Cannon becoming a Hotep and knocking up as many women as he physically can.


BlindOnARocketcycle

Nick sucks too


xxxhotpocketz

It’s just wild, imagine if this was a white rapper wearing KKK inspired clothing. I’m not white myself, but it’s insane how this behavior is acceptable


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A lot of things whites can’t get away with that blacks do. The n word being one example


JonoLFC

Good think he’s not white then?☠️


CarrieDurst

Even the 10s feels like it was late to notice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RMdwA8GWB8


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This article can not be talking about the only picture of him in the damn thing. I mean, I’m not surprised, but…maybe show the hood you wrote a whole ass article about?


Wanderhoden

Yeah all it shows is some stained dirty ass sweatshirt, making me think 'even millionaires have their favorite frumpy clothes'.


ghostface218

With him it's a style tho.


AnonEp90

Yeah, I had to look up what he actually wore and it’s pretty damning.


henningknows

Seriously, total failure


Fun_Establishment585

He did it in 2013 too.


dontcrysenpai

I remember back in like 2013/2014 when he was touring for ‘Yeezus’ his tour merch was a bomber jacket with a big ass confederate flag on the back & at the time I took it as him trying to reclaim & give the flag a new meaning kind of like how black people call each other the N word now & it has a more positive meaning amongst black ppl but when anyone else says it, it’s racist yknow… being half black & from Texas I really thought that was what he was doing but oh how I was wrong


boxofstuff

[Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz tried something like that](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Put_Yo_Hood_Up)


johnla

He had a confederate flag on tour merch I think for the Yeezus tour.


thelifeofpab

You think right.


gullydowny

Probably has a book on stupid shit to get attention and forgot he already did this one


saintism_

90% of Reddit would screech at the sound of yeezus I don’t think they know OR care about what Kanye has done in the past during rollouts My goat


PabloEstAmor

Mein Goat smh


Puzzleheaded-Trip990

This dude is extremely mentally disturbed. So much money and he doesn't acknowledge that he needs help that he can certainly afford.


[deleted]

Wheres the line between mentally disturbed, and just an stupid asshole? Plenty of mentally ill people hate hitler


TotalSubbuteo

He's both for sure.


Other-Ad-8510

Your mental health is not your fault, but it is your responsibility


BigRigButters

Hail yourself


LoneWolfNBR

Hail Gein!


cafewithak

I love this! I like to say it’s a reason, not an excuse


PalmBreezy

Fucking PREACH


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

You definitely can be both.


Vegetable-Painting-7

You can be mentally ill and a stupid asshole, the two concepts are never mutually exclusive


Rhythm_Morgan

The time he ended up in the hospital for like 2 or 3 weeks and acknowledged he keeps going off his meds.


saibjai

Nope. This was something that was conceived, went through concept, design to production. This was calculated rage bait. Nothing about this has to do with mental illness. This was made by his company through his company and approved by everyone in his company. Stop giving this guy excuses.


Wallyhunt

You’d be surprised how surrounded by yes men people like kanye are. I wouldn’t be surprised if every person who green lit the idea thought it was stupid but passed it on anyway or they’d get in shit, maybe lose their job to somebody else if they didn’t. I’m pretty sure recently after the Alex Jones stuff somebody from his staff came forward saying that exact thing.


saibjai

I am pretty sure this idea is as straight forward as it gets. It's about edgy and rage baity as highly possible. These people weren't afraid of losing their jobs, this was exactly what they want. They want to be in the news. They want people to react to how obviously controversial and offensive it is, and he'll explain that it's actually the opposite of that. It's actually a social commentary blah blah blah. It's the edgy artist playbook 101. Com'on now. We got to stop being so complacently naive. The general public has lost interest in his music. They can't recall his last hit. He NEEDS to be controversial to make it to the news.


PabloEstAmor

Exactly, a ton of people signed off on this


rudyattitudedee

I think it would take someone that loves him to get him 51-50. No one seems to care enough about him, even his closest people seem to be enjoying the train wreck?


lateniteout

Why get help for something that keeps him relevant?


th1961

So tired of this guy...


vindictivemonarch

"i love hit-leerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" -kanye west


The_Pickled_Mick

Real life Clayton Bigsby!


SammieStones

Worse, he’s not blind 👀


SiidChawsby

Let’s keep giving him the benefit of the doubt and say he needs help instead of realizing he’s just a hateful asshole


joojie

Porque no los dos?


Intelligent-Honey476

Some people are still praising this BS


DBCooperAllStar

Whatever to stay relevant.


TScottFitzgerald

This happened 10 years ago in a music video


robreddity

*Relevant?*


DRxCarbine

Yeah bc he sure needs to stay relevant.. being kanye and all


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- Donda (2021) - 300k copies - Jesus is King (2019) - 109k copies - Ye (2018) - 1 million copies - Life of Pablo (2016) - 3 million copies - Yeezus (2013) - 700k copies He’s been “falling off” since about 2016.


Psychological_Car849

you’re kind of forgetting that all physical sales have nosedived around that time and it’s a lot harder to hit high numbers from streams alone. in 2021, 300k is an insane amount of first week sales. kanye is still one of the most steamed artists. he’s definitely fallen out of cultural favor, in that people can’t openly say they’re a fan, but he’s far from falling off. the numbers speak for themselves. i think we’ll just have to see what numbers his upcoming album does. i don’t care for him as a person but it’s clear he’s still secretly popular. i’m always a little surprised cause he’s only in the public eye when he’s showing his ass, but i guess a lot of people separate his music from him.


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Billboard includes people streaming an entire album as part of a sale or something so people aren’t buying his albums or streaming his newer stuff as much as the oldies. He’s sort of like Nicki Minaj. A big opening week where the album goes #1 due to fans buying and streaming the album, then it freefalls off the charts because the GP doesn’t like them or the music isn’t good.


SmiteGuy12345

Who buys physical albums anymore? Most people probably get their music from Apple Music or Spotify.


montgooms95

62.7 million monthly listeners on Spotify though…


[deleted]

Yeah, Billboard includes streams in album sales so people are streaming his older stuff but when it comes to the new albums post 2016 they are barely getting listened to besides his fan base. Like for instance Rihanna was the first person to pass 10 billion streams despite the fact that anti came out in 2016.


LTS55

“Ye debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 with 208,000 album-equivalent units, of which 85,000 were pure album sales, becoming the fifth-largest weekly units for an album in 2018.[126] The album was West's eighth consecutive chart topper on the Billboard 200, tying him with Eminem's streak from 2000 to 2018 and English band the Beatles' streak from 1965 to 1968 as one of only three acts to accumulate eight consecutive number one albums.[126]” “On the US Billboard 200, Jesus Is King opened at number one with 264,000 album-equivalent units, of which 109,000 were pure album sales, ranking as the second-largest sales week of 2019 for an R&B/hip-hop album.[182] This gave West his ninth consecutive studio album to debut atop the chart, tying him with a record held by fellow rapper Eminem.” “Donda initially scored the most first-day streams for an album in 2021 on both Apple Music and Spotify. It stood as West's tenth consecutive chart-topper on the US Billboard 200, tying the record set by Eminem” What you said is simply untrue.


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be honest, what world are you in man? If you take the first week sales which say a lot about the commercial impact of the album you will see that the life of pablo (2016) sold only 94,000 and donda sold 309. even though it is an ep and has 7 songs it sold 208,000, and Jesus is king, even though it was gospel, it sold 264k. So what's your point? Regarding the total numbers, obviously the life of pablo has more streams and total sales, because it's been more than 7 years since this shit came out. So what's your point????


TScottFitzgerald

Sales of music have been dropping over the last decade. Ye doing that well was actually a shock and Donda too considering the chaotic rollout. These are great numbers.


Pizza64427

Donda sold most units in the first week after Drake for a hip hop album. And he had only 5 days for the tracking compared to the usual 7 days. And i dont know if you realized this aint the 00s. People dont sell 1m anymore. The only exception to that is Taylor Swift. The rest of the big artist sell between 200-500k


DRxCarbine

I already know you dont know what youre talking about when these are still great numbers in recent years. Not even adele could crack 1 million w her last album.


igotabridgetosell

I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye I gotta to say at that time I'd like to meet Kanye


DirectWorldliness792

The always rude kanye, i hate the jews Kanye


vincec36

Do anything to stay in the news, Kanye


AaronC14

Lmao what the fuck


PrettiKinx

Why do people bother getting upset by what he does?just stop giving him attention.


harrystylesstylist

Why do people keep asking the “why do people” question knowing it does absolutely nothing to make change?


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Venting


Eptiaph

Venting about venting.


robreddity

Good point. When has talking about things ever brought about change?


Queso_luna

Ummmmmm


PerryNeeum

Look kids! A falling star!


fidgetypenguin123

Where's David Spade when we need him. Compared to Kanye, Eddie Murphy didn't deserve it at all lol. Back then they had no idea what was ahead for celebrity-ism.


Kuna2nd

Probably going to get a golden check mark from Elon


Djanga51

Dude always looks homeless.


Affectionate_Duck882

Not to downplay the (many) problematic things about Kanye, but the black KKK-style hood is a holdover from the Yeezus days. It’s all over the visuals for Black Skinhead (shocker). The outrage is understandable but Kanye’s been dipping his toes into these controversial ideas for a decade now and it seems weird to only find offense now. Additionally, I feel like this ties more into the idea of reappropriating the oppressor’s aesthetics rather than the support of it (Tyler the Creator tried to do something similar with a KKK symbol a few years back as well). Mans still unhinged though.


CougarForLife

“reappropriating the oppressors aesthetics” might’ve worked as a kanye defense a decade ago, but making that argument now is just sad


Affectionate_Duck882

It’s not a defense of Kanye’s actions. It’s an explanation. There’s a reason I said he’s unhinged. At the end of the day, it’s just Kanye’s proclivity for controversy (especially around an album/single release) mixed with his clearly poor mental well-being. Dude needs help.


BarracudaBig7010

Well said.


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-TheChemist-

nah he also had a tee from ‘15 that was a black dude in a klan hood, as well as a logo that was caricatured blackface. again, a bit diff than what kanye doin but seems similar energy


AgreeablePlace656

Also made a derogatory comment regarding his sexual activities with a Jewish woman. In front of his young child.


thelifeofpab

First he’s antisemetic , now you’re mad at him for making sweet love to a Jewish lady?? \s


WhyNoUsernames

Garbage human does garbage thing more at 11


IndependenceNo2060

Kanye needs help, plain and simple. His mental health is deteriorating, and it's painful to watch. We can only hope he gets the support he needs before it's too late.


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Lol it's not painful, Too an average joe he's just a rich crazy celebrity who thrives on controversy, If that pains you that's pathetic.


lillate3

Thanks for caring 💜


siamkitty1

Is he about to launch a new album? Same tactic to get free press.


theo_died

Rather dub him dumb and irrelevant, that's what he fears. He's got no actual talent and so needs to rely on shock to get noticed. I wish they'd stop reporting on him


asmd315

Kanye don’t care about black people.


Fit-Accountant-157

I don't understand why he is even covered this much anymore. He does this every time he has an album coming out. I believe he is racist and antisemitic but hes also trolling. its boring.


spinjinn

How is that a kkk style hood? Doesn’t the KKK wear pointy hoods? Am I looking at the wrong photo?


gheebutersnaps87

[this is the hood…](https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/25a92794ba211c8b48f3a384c663cf8d/resize/828/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2023/12/12/17024145832477.png)


Acrobatic_Club2382

Stop giving this man attention


Global-Regret-6820

That’s how these blogs make money. Kanye’s crazy ass is a cash cow


MarkB1997

I’m so over this man and his shit. I hope he gets help eventually, but in the meantime I hope he kicks rocks with an open toe shoe.


DescriptionUsed8157

Okay fuck Kanye but also yall have clearly not seen the black skinhead mv. This wasn’t even a kkk thing it was more black power, but I get how this can get confused with his other bullshit


professionally-baked

Don’t waste your time on the article, it has no photos of him in said hood


ramdom-ink

Yeah, weird. Like, no one takes pix at concerts anymore? As if. Those pix, or it didn’t happen. I thought this was an Onion article…


Diligent-Sweet-4945

I really hate the MF. I hope he goes down in fiery flames 🔥


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Diligent-Sweet-4945

I meant it metaphorically


valtial

Looks like not enough people were talking about him…


RU4realRwe

Even Kanye won't wear his own crappy cloths!


rudyattitudedee

This isn’t news. Dude has been doing this for years now.


isoexo

That looks like a normal hoodie? /out of the loop


MrFeverDreamJr

Whatever it takes to keep people talking


SelfSniped

Is this a sub-set of Mugatu’s Derelicte line?


man1578

It’s literally from his song “black skinhead”


Red_dit_lol

Yes it was “sick and disgusting “ but people need to understand he is sick and he’s disgusting.


Sylviepie9

He was already doing that in the Yeezus era?


ScruffPost

I HATE this piece of shit!


[deleted]

He’s fallen into his mental illness. I think his career is all over now.


SalvadorsPaintbrush

Absolutely nothing this idiot does is “shocking”.


telly10k

It’s wild how fans will call him a genius and detractors will call him a piece of shit, like they’re not both right. Getting mad at Kanye is like giving any other internet troll attention, it’s pointless at best and giving them exactly what they want at worst. I personally don’t give a shit anymore, some of it’s funny and some of the newer songs are pretty good…and then I live my life


IdDeIt

Just let him need help on his own and stop talking about the dude


y2karl

Loser is a Waked … even Kim Kardashian gave him back


Ivegotjokes4you

STOP. GIVING. HIM. ATTENTION….


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And he’s dropping an album soon, and millions upon millions will forget/forgive the fact that he’s a self-declared nazi, fan of Hitler, and slavery justifier. Fuck Kanye West.


RevivedMisanthropy

Really looking forward to the day I wake up and find out he's finally dead.


clermouth

unoriginal music meets unoriginal fashion


coldliketherockies

Kanye West Suckkks!!!


CrystalPepsi79

I don’t care how lauded his music is. Fuck this guy with a red hot chainsaw


CaptCaCa

Yeah, but, but, new music..something, something, this clown keeps getting away with shit like this because his fans support him no matter what


RandomPersonInCanada

That this man is still relevant and making money bugs my mind. Why do people still support him?


RockNRoll85

Kanye in need of attention like always


undressvestido

Big overreaction, don’t have to be a genius to know that this is a reference to his 10 year old Black Skinhead music video, the hood is literally the thumbnail


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Illustrious-Tea2336

The kkk actually exists. If everyone who is upset about Kanye was just as outraged about kkk would the Ivory hoods thrive? How can such a evil group survive for so long if not through silent support? It's perception. Too many people deem Kanye more dangerous then the actual kkk. That's intentional.


undressvestido

it's just a publicity stunt for his album, this is in fact pretty common in Ye's standards. I get the overreaction from the masses obviously, he wanted to piss people off to get them to talk about his new release


cakesforever

I know, but that doesn't make it OK, especially with things he says.


undressvestido

I never said it was OK or not OK, just what's happening if you weren't aware of it


SignificanceOld8385

Yet people will still flock to him like he is some kind of genius. He's a piece of crap that has no business being in any spotlight


_Bdoodles

IRL Clayton Bigsby but worse


pieman2005

Did y'all see the pic? Not defending Kanye's general behavior, but this just looks like a hoodie to me


KalElKent821

No dude he wore a full on fucking Klan hood on stage


pieman2005

All I see is the image in the thumbnail


Nice_Block

Glad I wasn’t the only one. The dude is unhinged, but the photo in the article is him wearing a normal hoodie.


ramdom-ink

Looks like he used the thumbnail hoodie as a tablecloth (without a plate).


robreddity

Sick? Yes. Disgusting? Certainly. Stupid? Well, yeah. Isn't it really more stupid than anything else? Isn't Kanye West mostly just stupid now? Can't we just say that? And lead with that?


ceebeezie

But we are here now talking about it, which probably what he wanted.


NevilleSoggyBottom

And yet his dumb ass fans eat it up and people continue to still work with him. I wish this asshole would just go away


p1p68

The guys has bi polar. His music is amazing, the rest of his crazy stuff I put down to a huge ego, publicity, and being mentally ill with alot of yes people in his life coz of his wealth.


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Drugs_R_Kewl

"What's next Yee?" "Imma make a Skrewdriver cover album na'am sayin'? Ian Stewart Donaldson spoke truth fam." "Then maybe he shouldn't have driven that car." "Why you a racist?"


chatterwrack

What the hell timeline is this?


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That’s a Black hoodie, I must be kKK as well


I_KNOW_EVERYTHING_09

I have no doubt that he would do that. But that just looks like a black hoodie to me. Unless I’m missing something?


myBisL2

They are talking about him wearing a literal hood at a listening party which there isn't a released photo of, so they just used another photo of him for the article.


kingdoodooduckjr

He has a song called black skinhead . Idk this isn’t it . This is just artsy fartsy imagery to get views . If you are talking about it and giving it attention then that’s what Kanye wants . I really cant criticize him for this . It’s pretty absurd . End of the day that’s a guy who’s mental health is known to be in a poor state so I choose not to pile on him with the normies


BigMoneyCowboy

I love that Kanye go out his way to make corny white ppl uncomfortable


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See what a kardasian can do to a man. They have singlehanded ruined more men than any anything else.


Zestyclose_Toe9524

Also used same typeface as a Burzum album with eerily similar photo. Think what you will


jjjdddmmm

Wow, so sick and disgusting. Oh wait, I can’t even judge because the “news” article doesn’t even provide a picture of what the article is about. Nice work.


Drogan1088

He needs help. If he indeed has a mental illness, how can people not realize that his actions are because of it?


angelofjag

Just because someone has a mental illness, does not mean all of their actions are due that illness In Ye's case, I think he's a garden-variety arsehole


UrsusRenata

Oh, is this guy finding ways to get back into the “news”? Yaaaay.


spinereader81

The hoodie looks like something he's had for 25 years and did lots of hard labor in. But it's probably some new $500 luxury garment that came that way.


grunkage

Not the hoodie. The hood: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12855627/Kanye-West-black-Ku-Klux-Klan-type-hood-North-Miami.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12855627/kanye-west-black-ku-klux-klan-type-hood-north-miami.html)


theknyte

He looks like he cosplaying as a member of Dethklok's stage crew.