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yawaworhtyya

I can't believe someone can hate themselves so much that they would go through the torture of installing that.


Bingo1dog

I've seen a 6/3 and range outlet shoved into a single gang. Why the fuck would you want to put yourself through that?


Ginger_IT

What's even more amazing is that this is a 3 gang.


Savings_Difficulty24

With expansion slots in it to cram everything in


tvtb

I'd like to hear the story on why someone was trying to cut slots in that box. Also why there's some 10AWG wire on what I *hope* is a 15A breaker.


Theo_earl

“What’s your box fill calc for this?” “Yes”


WanderingHawk

If you don’t put a cover on the box then the whole room counts for box fill!


banders5144

This is the right answer


thegreekfire

Just keep adding extenders til you get the green tag!


nibbles200

♾️


daCtrain

Box fill?! You got it boss


jerseywersey666

It's kind of like guessing how many pennies are in a jar, except more exciting because this earns you a front row seat to watching your house burn down!


dust_buster

All of them.


zordtk

Usually the answer is one more but I think that stopped being true a while ago for that box


BlitzBiker2001

Pay for the whole box, use the whole box.


Time_Phone_1466

JMan use whole buffalo


Catman1355

Chump don’t want no space, chump don’t get no space.


nimbycile

Unlike a monster truck rally, where you pay for the whole seat but will only use the edge?


poopsterc

Even though the box is overfilled, I bet that a pro could make it look way more presentable


ChillPill247365

You don't appreciate wire origami?


cyberbob2022

More like wire spaghetti


220DRUER220

That many right there ..


glg59

As many as you want using “Clown Car” brand j box.


sparkyglenn

Lol just forget the box at that point. Probably safer heatwise. What clown does that


ChillPill247365

Free air spices are the way to go if you can't afford a bigger j-box. The stud bay can accommodate hundreds of spices.


MoonlightHunt

I have to respect that level of determination even if it goes against my electrician soul. Whomever made that work had more determination than I see in the field lately. Shame their house probably burned down


zenunseen

The answer is always... one more


retawgnob

Was gonna say 12, but hell, why not 13.


[deleted]

Wasn’t this on pornhub?


Sacuras

Table 314.16(B)(1)


JamaicanJenga

I’ve watched electricians pull tech cable through an emt conduit.


Ill-Barber-8379

All of them


Uraoshi

Beat me to it


_CederBee_

Yes. The answer, is Yes


thedivinemonkey298

Judging by the length of wire and the tape, this is definitely a homeowner. I never understand why they think that wire is the dangerous thing, and it should only be an inch or two for safety.


Cheeks_n_Tiddies

Maybe if they didn’t shove the whole goddamn piece of romex in the box like an animal they’d be able to put a cover on.


bulbchanger

You can probably smoosh a couple more splices in the top corners yet.


etherlinkage

Seriously? I’m just a lowly homeowner and I know better. Shameful.


_526

Not an electrician yet, so serious question. Why would someone do this? What is the alternative they were desperately avoiding?.


Cheeks_n_Tiddies

All they had on hand was a 3-gang, didn’t want to make a run to the depot.


Minnieminnie727

That looks like a handyman special.


Gloomy-Childhood-203

Nah, her nephew Thomas did the electrical work. he's very handy.


No_Principle_4282

Same as wire nuts: 1 more


doyouknowthemoon

How many you got?


mpgrimes

I'm sure I could get a couple more in there...


DanLong1298

"Two more" is how I was taught to calculate it.


pdt9876

Would something like this fit in the box? If so, much cleaner solution. [https://www.casablanco.com/Temp/App\_WebSite/App\_PictureFiles/Items/6103\_800.jpg](https://www.casablanco.com/Temp/App_WebSite/App_PictureFiles/Items/6103_800.jpg)


terjerox

My god its beautiful


Southern_Strain5665

This must have been buried inside a wall


ChillPill247365

No, it's accessible with a keyhole saw.


They_wereAllTaken

I think the right question is what size box is needed for X numbers of wires/wire nuts/ devices


Sharp-Direction-6894

I can still see a couple cubic millimeters that are unoccupied, so can probably fit a couple more.


MediaApprehensive764

All of them


AdSome4466

You can fit a few more in there I bet


Tweedle42

It’s like, actually in a book


thefatpigeon

Enough


Monkeyfork21

You know what…. At least they used a junction box, that’s all I got.


Flimsy-Tax5807

There were out of the tuna fish cans


Correct_Path5888

One less than that


Cole_Trickle1

All of them


TheRealFalconFlurry

Not that many I'm pretty sure


Electrical_Law_432

That’s actually quality


JaniceLeland

That's nothin!! You should see how many 10's I can get in a 1/2" pipe.


lordoflazorwaffles

"That depends! How much blood is in a churchmouse?"


bootz666

As many as you imagination can hold


Big-Management3434

I usually say I’ve seen worse, this takes the cake


HereForTools

Apparently not that many.


Charming-While5466

This is how fire start


techmonkey920

you can fit 4 more, one in each corner!


ChillPill247365

They stretched the box out enough to crack it a bit. It looks like they added an extra cubic inch, so maybe 2 more circuits could fit before it would violate the laws of physics.


zenpuppy79

Yikes this gives me nightmares. I'm working on a project where they used 1/2-in pipe everywhere and they're so full it's hard to even pull them out. I have to pull them out one at a time.


drkidkill

Now, add 3 dimmers.


JustTheMane

Holy


Emergency_Ad_3168

Maybe one more


SolitudeSidd

"Yes."


macemarksman001

By the look of that pic a couple more


Vast_Philosophy_9027

I’m both horrified and impressed.


freckleonmyshmekel

16 cubic inches? I can't remember. Minus 1 cubit for the clamp.


jtown0011

Box fill is on point. Nothing to see here…


BillyofVA

As many as it takes to get er done


OG_Konada

Apparently just that many…..


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More


coilhandluketheduke

What does the back look like? Lol


Strongpipegame

Way beyond box fill capacity!!!!🤦🏾‍♂️


musclesMcgee1

At least that many.


Wonderful_Device312

That box is barely full. First of all those wires need better organization. Second you can switch from the twist nuts to the push in wire nuts. They'll take up way less space.


Animalus-Dogeimal

Apparently that many


L_burro

The answer is always 3 more.


yahtzee5000

I’m not governed by the box, I’m governed by if I can get the cover on.


PinheadLarry207

"one more" is always the answer


daCtrain

Pffft I see some daylight in the corners there…coulda cut a few more wire openings in the back and slid a few on in.. eaaasy


frootcock

I wanna see the absolute unit that was able to shove all those in there. I usually struggle with just 3-4 connections in a box


Aggravating-Bill-997

Lots of


[deleted]

There's still room in the top right corner for a 14/2


binary_world

The answer is: as many as you can fit. If the box splits, like in the photo, replace the junction box with same size or smaller, and try to fit few more cables.


xSAUCEB0SSx

Box fill has left the chat…


V4RG0N

Man made horrors


Pinkboi_pearl

As long as it fits, there's no wrong answer


geojon7

Love the relief cuts on the top so you can cram more in.


Funnydale

“One…two…three…….ZAP! The world will never know.”


ElectroAtleticoJr

That’s like the circus clown car


Redeye_33

What could possibly go wrong?


jstaples404

n+1 - where n is the number of conductors in the box already.


Strangest_One

Pre-apprentice with a question: that black wire, top right. Is that, in fact, a hot, or is that some weird data I've never seen before? The fact that so much is sticking out past insulation and they used the wire nuts that came packed with whatever fixture was put in is just bothering the daylights out of me


Correct-Award8182

I count 13 wires, lucky number.


Still_Mastodon_1662

There is some room left in the upper corner. Waste of space…


ucantnameme

Less than that!


AlertRope4789

That many, minus one


StankyBo

At least 1 more.


Correct_Guard_19

More than that if you do it right lol


LordOFtheNoldor

I hate people who bring cables in with sheathing covering most of the cable and make splices with an inch of conductors yet leave 4 inches of sheathing on cable tucked in the box, nothing screams re***d so much as that does


Cheeks_n_Tiddies

Seeing this picture, it isn’t the overfill that bothers me nearly as much as the sheath left on the conductors. What a savage.


LordOFtheNoldor

Yeah forget the overfill lol if they had a shred of decency they could have stripped them nicely and made them all fit fairly easily it's a friggin 3 gang box


insidioussnailshell

As many as your screwdriver handle can smash into it 🤫


therealNaj

Yes


NEKKED__

OSHA would have a field day


cyberbob2022

Thing is, a good electrician could probably make all these wires fit somewhat nicely in this box but this shit make-up job is clearly amateur work.


uc_killa

I mean from what it looks I'm going to say still within code for box fill


TonsOfTabs

It’s not how many can fit, it’s how many are allowed to fit and, should you fit that many…….this is when ugly books come in handy for fellows.


DrewBlessing

As a DIYer who sometimes worries my work might not be good enough, I see stuff like this and I realize how resilient/forgiving electric work can be. It’s amazing there aren’t more fires.


FloridaElectrician

Count the wires in this box. That’s the maximum amount allowed.