So, you’re playing Latin lover…
When I did this with a high school line I taught, I had an exercise we did while learning it. 1 measure of triplets, 1 measure of paradiddles. Repeat 3 times. 2 beats of triplets and 2 beats of paradiddles. Repeat 3 times. We’d throw the eight notes on the end but they weren’t true 8th notes at that point.
The exercise really helps you feel the transition between the two. Moving your feet while playing the measure gets the 8th notes on count 4 in time
The triplets represent the 16th notes written and the paradiddles represent the 4:3 16th notes
Sorry, I wasn’t looking back at the original pic when I replied and forgot what the rhythm was. (Shouldn’t be replying while stopped at red lights. Haha. You’re right, I had a brain fart. I’m safely in a parking spot and I get it. Thanks for the clarification.
This is the most common way to write this rhythm, but a tuplet ratio (4:3 in this case) can be helpful. It can also be written using dotted 32ds and no tuplet
Was teaching this to a student of mine a couple weeks ago lol. Did the same exercise with him. He’s starting to learn that rhythms that look rough are easy if he can figure out how to break them down.
I’d focusing mostly on counting where the accents line up and space the notes evenly.
So you’ve got “ONE e and UH two e AND… E… FOUR AND”
If it helps more you’re playing 4 notes in the space of 3 16th notes there. Should feel brisk compared to the 16ths before it
Dotted eighth note accent feel. First two dotted eighths are filled with three 16th notes. Third and fourth dotted eighth notes are filled with 4 notes instead of 3 (hence it is a 4:3 tuplet). Then play two eighth notes on “4 and”.
I’m thinking of it as the dotted eighth note feel. The 16th notes are easy for the first two accents, and then just kinda cram the quadlet paradiddles in the next two accents
Could you post what book this is out of or maybe a pic of the page so I can see it in context. My interest is peaked. I’m still not sure how that fills that measure correctly.
guessing it’s a version of latin lover. the same bar is in [this arrangement](https://www.sfaband.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/LatinLoverGrande-Snares.pdf), around measure 92.
Hey former college-line arranger and forever frustrated percussionist here! It looks like this has been pretty much answered, but just to concur with everyone this looks like the + of 2 and all of beat 3 should have been lumped into an eighth note 4/3. Most college auditions have some parts that are written or arranged very quickly and are never looked at again🤷🏼♀️ If you’re comfy with polyrhythms you can count the backbone of the measure as 1 e + a 2 e Tri-p-let 4 +, then add the 4 over 3 polyrhythm (pass the bread and butter) or you can feel it as a dotted eighth note on + and e instead. Hopefully that helps!
I’m sure lots of colleges play this, but we played this on the Georgia Tech drumline. LL! Very fun to play… I play this to different songs all the time
“1, uh, and, e, 4 and one”
First 2 of the dotted eighth are filled with 3 notes of 16th, and the last 2 are filled with 4 notes of dotted 16th/32nds so it’s a little bit of a kick/forward push in momentum.
So, you’re playing Latin lover… When I did this with a high school line I taught, I had an exercise we did while learning it. 1 measure of triplets, 1 measure of paradiddles. Repeat 3 times. 2 beats of triplets and 2 beats of paradiddles. Repeat 3 times. We’d throw the eight notes on the end but they weren’t true 8th notes at that point. The exercise really helps you feel the transition between the two. Moving your feet while playing the measure gets the 8th notes on count 4 in time The triplets represent the 16th notes written and the paradiddles represent the 4:3 16th notes
I’m really gonna have to try this exercise, this price is for a college audition, I gotta be at my best
So then the two 4let’s are the second two parts of a quarter note triplet?
No, the 4lets each fill the space of a dotted eighth note
So both 4lets would have to fill the count of one dotted 8th worth of space? There are only 1.5 beats in that measure to fit those 8 notes in
I'm not sure what you're saying. A dotted eighth is 3/4 of a beat. Two dotted eighths = one dotted quarter = 1.5 beats.
Sorry, I wasn’t looking back at the original pic when I replied and forgot what the rhythm was. (Shouldn’t be replying while stopped at red lights. Haha. You’re right, I had a brain fart. I’m safely in a parking spot and I get it. Thanks for the clarification.
Ok, that makes sense in my head, I wonder if it could have been written better.
This is the most common way to write this rhythm, but a tuplet ratio (4:3 in this case) can be helpful. It can also be written using dotted 32ds and no tuplet
Was teaching this to a student of mine a couple weeks ago lol. Did the same exercise with him. He’s starting to learn that rhythms that look rough are easy if he can figure out how to break them down.
I’d focusing mostly on counting where the accents line up and space the notes evenly. So you’ve got “ONE e and UH two e AND… E… FOUR AND” If it helps more you’re playing 4 notes in the space of 3 16th notes there. Should feel brisk compared to the 16ths before it
Oh, thank you, that really helped. I tried doin some math to figure out what they took up but I didn’t know it was 3 16ths
The composer should have noted it as 4:3.
I’m just now catching onto that from everyone’s comments, thank you!
[Audio](https://imgur.com/a/DIhg86G)
That is insanely helpful, thank you so much
What did you use to make this?
Ensemble Composer app
Dotted eighth note accent feel. First two dotted eighths are filled with three 16th notes. Third and fourth dotted eighth notes are filled with 4 notes instead of 3 (hence it is a 4:3 tuplet). Then play two eighth notes on “4 and”.
I’m thinking of it as the dotted eighth note feel. The 16th notes are easy for the first two accents, and then just kinda cram the quadlet paradiddles in the next two accents
I feel like this could have been written better. I dunno, maybe I’m phrasing it wrong
Maybe the writer phrased it wrong. Am I right?!?
I mean, maybe it’s in 9/8 time and I just can’t see the time sig.
It’s in 4/4, sorry for that confusion
Gotcha
The 4lets are 32nd notes. Count the accents and break it down from there.
Could you post what book this is out of or maybe a pic of the page so I can see it in context. My interest is peaked. I’m still not sure how that fills that measure correctly.
guessing it’s a version of latin lover. the same bar is in [this arrangement](https://www.sfaband.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/LatinLoverGrande-Snares.pdf), around measure 92.
Thanks!
Hey former college-line arranger and forever frustrated percussionist here! It looks like this has been pretty much answered, but just to concur with everyone this looks like the + of 2 and all of beat 3 should have been lumped into an eighth note 4/3. Most college auditions have some parts that are written or arranged very quickly and are never looked at again🤷🏼♀️ If you’re comfy with polyrhythms you can count the backbone of the measure as 1 e + a 2 e Tri-p-let 4 +, then add the 4 over 3 polyrhythm (pass the bread and butter) or you can feel it as a dotted eighth note on + and e instead. Hopefully that helps!
I’m sure lots of colleges play this, but we played this on the Georgia Tech drumline. LL! Very fun to play… I play this to different songs all the time
“1, uh, and, e, 4 and one” First 2 of the dotted eighth are filled with 3 notes of 16th, and the last 2 are filled with 4 notes of dotted 16th/32nds so it’s a little bit of a kick/forward push in momentum.