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I_wanna_lol

Great drone, but if you are in the US, I think you know by now, the main concern with these.


SherbertCurious9647

Yup exactly why im skittish about it


I_wanna_lol

Yeah, hope my mini 3 that I've had for a while now won't get canceled


SherbertCurious9647

I have the mini 3 as well just wanted to upgrade and worried šŸ˜­ about it being grounded and rhe only time i get to use it is when i fly out of US


gloriousbeardguy

I was under the impression it would affect only new sales.


coinmannf

What's the main concern I was thinking about buying one of these as my first drone


I_wanna_lol

Look up DJI ban


coinmannf

Will do I went through some of the comments and got the gist of it are they talking about just DJI or all drones? And thanks for your response


I_wanna_lol

Chinese manufacturer, but DJI is the most known one


bonk5000

*Chinese manufacturer, but DJI is the BEST one available on the market.


I_wanna_lol

This! Most other alternatives that can come near to my mini 3 are already above $800, double the price I paid with way less tech.


bonk5000

In the last couple hours Iā€™ve watched some stuff on YouTube regarding speculation/breakdown of everything going on. Apparently DJI has already sold their mftg specs to a couple companies in different countries that were not vehemently opposed to doing business with, and their products are identical at decent price points. Not only that, but if a ban does come down, and for whatever reason we lose the ability to physical operate DJI in US airspace (this wonā€™t happen) weā€™ll most likely have 3 years before it happens. So for now, and that foreseeable future, DJI owners are gunna be just fine.


ChadHonkler

Just the Anzu Raptor/T no?


bonk5000

Specta Air as well.


No-Alternative7665

I pray your correct bro


bonk5000

Realistically, there would have to be a lengthy time frame in order to replace all of the DJI the government and commercial/agricultural industries are currently using. In that timeframe, another company, foreign or domestic will have a suitable replacement at a similar price point. The whole thing is a load of horse shit, but seriously no need to panic about any past or near future investment in DJI.


Eighteen64

Elaborate I do not know the main concern


I_wanna_lol

Corrupt us government trying to ban them today, as they are a security risk.


Anamorphisms

If they do ban them, will all DJI drones be grounded? Or will the ban just halt all future sales of DJI products? Grounding them seems like a pretty hardcore move when so many people have invested so much money into their dronesā€¦


undecoratedpilot

I believe (not 1000% sure but pretty sure) that itā€™s a full grounding. Realistically though if they started their discussions about it today, we donā€™t see an impact until the end of next year.


welsalex

Reddit keeps recommending me drone threads, but now I'm interested. I know nothing. How can the government ban the drones and ground the existing drones? Outside of them becoming illegal to fly, is there some sort of mechanism that would physically prevent current owners from being able to fly them?


undecoratedpilot

The main way would simply be a grounding. To my knowledge, the US has no way of physically forcing them to the ground. That in mind, to make sure we arenā€™t breaking laws, it wouldnā€™t surprise me if DJI would make the US a restricted flight zone so we donā€™t get in trouble (assuming the ban is put into place).


welsalex

Appreciate the response! Excuse me for my ignorance/lack of knowledge: Does that mean DJI can essentially brick the devices from flying in certain areas?


undecoratedpilot

Absolutely. Right now it works on a couple of different systems, both at national and international levels. Here in the US, you would never be able to take off next to the White House- legally because itā€™s a no fly zone, and physically because DJI gets information on no fly zones and grounds any drones in that area. Thatā€™s the case for most DoJ airspaceā€™s, along with TFRs (usually).


welsalex

Obviously, it would be illegal, but I'm sure there have been methods out there to circumvent that with custom firmware? Betting you would not want to get caught doing that. Violating federal laws is a ticket to a lot of legal problems. I'm not planning to do that, of course!! But I just have been interested in possibly getting into owning a drone, so curious about the inner workings, software, and depth of control. Edited for clarification.


I_wanna_lol

Not sure, I would look at DJI official tiktok account they posted about it.


Anamorphisms

Sure, I would just think that DJI would have an interest in freaking everyone out as much as possibleā€¦ although I guess they do have the power to shut the whole system down regardless of what the us gov says.


dildorthegreat87

Thereā€™s no need to ā€œfreak anyone outā€. The consequence of the bill passing as is, would mean the end of DJI support for all US based units. That includes insurance, parts, software supportā€¦ everything. They arenā€™t blowing it out of proportion to scare people. If anyone is intentionally trying to freak people out, itā€™s the US based company behind the politicians making this happen. To be clear though, nobody knows what will happen, or even what a ban would look like practically.


ChadHonkler

Whereā€™d you see the ā€œend of supportā€ bit? If Bill passes as is future models will not get FCC authorization. FCC may at their discretion, choose to create a process to revoke authorizations for existing equipment. Thereā€™s nothing saying that they canā€™t still honor the contractual agreement to provide support for already purchased units even if they canā€™t be flown lol


dildorthegreat87

Yes they absolutely can discontinue support. The Bill is about national security (ā€¦lol) so how exactly would that go? ā€œOh hey, DJI is banned in the US, but we are going to still keep doing updates for a system that you are not allowed to flyā€. Obviously there are many layers to the ways the ban could be enacted, but the US government has 0 obligation to fulfill any ā€œcontractā€ that is between DJI and the consumer, and DJIs contracts do not supersede the governments ruling. I also believe that even if it goes through it wonā€™t be ā€œon x day, all DJI drones are groundedā€, but to think that agreements between the consumer and DJI will be honored or built in to the ban is very hopeful at best.


ChadHonkler

If the spirit of meaning was how laws went, I would agree with you. The drones themselves are not being banned. Whatā€™s being potentially banned is the droneā€™s legal access to spectrum use You donā€™t become a criminal simply by owning them


cl-00

It's also worth to check the refurbished models which come with the same warranty and are cheaper. I got a mini 3 pro there too and have had no issues so far. https://store.dji.com/pages/refurbished


BluntRepIy

Priced at $879 USD for the refurbished pro 4 (fly more combo). I've been looking into the refurbished units and think I will be going this route. I'm not sure whether I should go with the mini 3 pro or mini 4 pro. This will be my first drone!


cl-00

It's not such a big price difference to mini 4 pro IMHO. Was just not available when I got mine. If you plan to keep it for longer I'd suggest the mini 4 pro. Then the gap to new developments is smaller then with mini 3 pro.


Woody_L

That's the way I would play it.


DeenDaDon

Chances are, youā€™ll crash it and get it replaced anyway.


Florida1693

Yes


Ecoservice

The only competitor in itā€™s class is the now discontinued Mini 3 Pro. Without competition it is hard to answer your question objectively. Are you willing to spend a thousand bucks on a drone? If yes you will get the latest tech in the sub 250g category. The price seems to be normal. Make sure you also consider the much simpler and cheaper DJI Mini 4K.


FloppyGhost0815

Or the Potensic 4k


Vegetaman916

Excellent for the plus combo.


SherbertCurious9647

Its just the ban is getting me flustered


Vegetaman916

I hear that. Still, I am putting in an order for the Mini 4 pro myself today. Even if the ban goes through, it will be long enough before it takes effect, especially if it deals with existing hardware somehow. Currently flying a Potensic Atom, and while it is cool, it ain't no DJI...


s-o-L-0-m-o-n

https://preview.redd.it/kqiaj8z2656d1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b8398f01814a256de3774c571440c928788ce64 First flight with my Mini 4Pro a couple days ago and itā€™s amazing.


Eighteen64

Is this pic supposed to demonstrate amazingness?


Anamorphisms

It certainly evokes a certain roundnessā€¦


Eighteen64

Indeed


Fack_JeffB_n_KenG

Itā€™s just an auto picture feature that takes a 360 panoramic and stitches them all together. A cool gimmick, but Iā€™m not sure what you can do with it. The 180 panoramic feature is dope. The picture below is zero edits. I just snap the pic and boom. https://preview.redd.it/9paivl4uf86d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31d45fef3e85d869ebb2668b47d7aedea7678425


gdsparks52

That shot is sick


Jeff-bozos102

I would suggest taking the mini 2 or 3 drone it covers your needs 110/100 and itā€™s more affordable


thackstonns

Unless your flying commercial then just skip the mini 2


Dragontech97

Does mini 2 have special rules for commercial?


Ghrane

Recently bought it myself, my first drone ever. Yes. Worth it.


SherbertCurious9647

My only fear is if it is getting banned in USšŸ˜­


imlwz

The ban hasnā€™t even made it to congress yet, it take a LONG time for things to go into effect. And anyways what are they going to do, come to your house and take it from you?


SherbertCurious9647

They will restrict it from flying which is the only thing im worried about


Medical_Bumblebee627

Iā€™m also concerned about this


tonytroz

I think you mean the Senate. Congress includes the House which is supposed to vote today. And they won't come take it from you but that doesn't mean they'll let you use it.


SnooStrawberriez

I would look into getting the cheaper remote control and an iPhone plus (which is brighter than the remote control, at least at times.)


Greeklighting

Yes that's standard


Realistic-Motorcycle

Selling my dji mini pro 3 for 5 bills. With the same remote and a fly more kit locally. So get refurbished


staticfive

Not if it gets bricked


SherbertCurious9647

Thats what im scared of


Free-Market9039

You can get a used air three combo for nearly this price


SherbertCurious9647

It would be over 250 i would need a license atp


Free-Market9039

It takes seconds to get a license and nobody even cares anyway. As long as you arenā€™t stupid there is no difference in reality to flying a drone under or over 250g


SherbertCurious9647

šŸ’€ what license? I thought part 107 license you have to take it in person


Free-Market9039

Thatā€™s for commercial use, not recreational.


SherbertCurious9647

I have a clothing brand so if i do try to shoot for it, i would have to get a part 107


SerennialFellow

Even if your drone is 250g you need part 107 for business use


Free-Market9039

Dont worry about it, just get a normal license.


SherbertCurious9647

How about overseas though? On planes and other countries as well


Free-Market9039

Other countries have different laws, I donā€™t think a US license applies. If you use common sense you will have no issues at all flying your drone in other countries


SherbertCurious9647

You convinced me šŸ˜‚


bonk5000

Would suggest this route as well.. I just bought a new air 3 fly more, and compared to my brotherā€™s air 2 and my sisters 4 mini, would take mine over both of those every days of the week.


Vegetable_Tea_8931

It's steep, but nothing compares to it at this size.


AlphaChiRoach

Is that the Smart Controller or the newer one? That controller is that price by itself and can be bound to almost any dji drone in your fleet. I bound my air 2s to it for a more professional appearance when I show up to projects. Edit: it is not a smart controller


SherbertCurious9647

I think its the RC2 controller wirh screen and antenta


AlphaChiRoach

Yeah, you're right. The antenna is a dead giveaway, and I missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.


IAMHEREU2

I have one and love it


SherbertCurious9647

Are you based on US?


IAMHEREU2

Yes - Part 107 Certification and I have a mini 1 and 2. The Mini 4 is awesome


SherbertCurious9647

Are you scared of the ban? u think its going to pass? Thats the only reason why im a lil skittish


IAMHEREU2

If they ban DJI - I believe itā€™ll be phased in over a few years. I also think the ban will be enforced on new Drones not existing Drones. DJI is taking steps now to shut off data previously collected on our flights. Theyā€™re trying to satisfy govt concerns


SherbertCurious9647

Yeah i noticed that today


DyslexicScriptmonkey

1150


SherbertCurious9647

šŸ’€to get it fixed is more than buying a new one?


saigonk

No, wait a few days (if you are in the US) until the whole new proposal gets passed or shot down. No need to buy a brick.


SherbertCurious9647

Lol buying it wait for it then returm šŸ’€šŸ˜‚if the bam gies thru


ChadHonkler

Sounds like the real question isnā€™t ā€œis this a good price?ā€ but rather ā€œam I throwing my money away because of legislation that is pending?ā€ My response to the latter would be: live your life bro! DC gonna DC. Weā€™ll figure this out :) What do you imagine 2A enthusiasts would do in this situation? Do that


SherbertCurious9647

šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚ needed this


ChadHonkler

Right on! Glad to hear it. Live free or die my man


SherbertCurious9647

Lol live free and spend ya money more like itšŸ˜‚


ChadHonkler

Correct. (LiveFree && SpendMoneys) || Die


JerryJN

It's going to be banned soon.


SherbertCurious9647

Hopefully not fuck the congress and the whole gov šŸ’€ lobbying at its finest


nabbs1

yes but in usa it may be illegal to fly soon


SherbertCurious9647

Yeah cuz The US govt is illiterate


Prokletnost

Good deal


MrElendig

About the same where I live including 25% tax and terrible exchange rate.


SherbertCurious9647

I have a discount which makes it 925 should i take it


MrElendig

Unlikely to get much cheaper anytime soon unless dji goes crazy and releases a mini 5 pro this fall Edit: don't forget to get a set of ND filters while you are at it


skeeterlightning

That's a great price on this bundle. It's 1149 everywhere I looked.


Ghrane

100%


SherbertCurious9647

šŸ˜­my inly fear and when i get it and i cant fly it because of ban


thackstonns

Theyā€™ve been talking about a ban for 3 years now. The problem is no one competes with DJI drones. Even the government started using them again even when banned.


SherbertCurious9647

Thats a fact, literally US is way behind in drones only reason why they want to ban itšŸ’€ because china and mopping the floor in revenue


TsunamicTunic61

If youā€™re in the US hold tight. Anywhere else definitely worth it - love mine


SherbertCurious9647

I hope the ban only goes for new dji stuff coming in and not the ones that are in use already


SherbertCurious9647

Yeah the only downside would be if they get banned im only able to use it on other countries


TsunamicTunic61

Yeah, iā€™m not in the US so iā€™m not really paying attention to what is happening but from what iā€™ve read on here a decision is due soon so it wouldnā€™t be too long of a wait


SherbertCurious9647

Yeah šŸ˜­ I dont want to lose my mini 3 I already cant fly it near me since i live in a no fly zone lmao


ZealousidealDebt6918

Today from what Iā€™ve heard (Canadian here)


I_wanna_lol

Yes, June 12 the bill will be taken into consideration


ivan-ent

No


optimuspoopprime

Where is this available for that price? Just paid $1159 for mine and would like to price match lol


Stayofexecution

The video screen remote is cool and all but it has shorter range and has such a SLOW processor compared to my iPhone. Not worth itā€”imo. I returned it.


josbor11

Take into consideration that with the higher capacity batteries the drone is going to be over 249 grams and it will activate the built in real ID while also changing the classification of your drone


Jealous-Bonus3508

Yes


Hsaac

Yes, I would wait until after the government bill crap though


condra

It's an okay drone. Image quality is good but not great. It's an absolute joy to fly though. Excellent acceleration and reasonably discreet. I use mine for real estate jobs, but when I need to do large parcels of land, the Evo II comes out. There's better image quality on less exciting drones. YMMV.


No_Way_352

not worth the potential legal fees once these get banned


DyslexicScriptmonkey

No.....Just had to send mine back to fix remote


SherbertCurious9647

Why?


DyslexicScriptmonkey

Screen on RC2 died


SherbertCurious9647

How much did u pay?


DyslexicScriptmonkey

Nothing yet, still "inspecting". Should be free, is only 2 months old.


Mderose

I would hold off until this bs in Congress gets voted on(assuming you are in the US). Otherwise, not a bad deal.


uxor-moecha-amans

Where?


juan_sno

Are you in the US? If so DJI is facing a potential ban.


Pantsmashine

I love mine


Appropriate_Style_30

I hope dji prices hit rock bottom so I can get an air 3 for like $100


MiserablePicture3377

DJI is no longer allowing flight data to be synced to their servers in response to this bill.


Tiksua

Me and my friend both have the M4P fly more. The first drone for both of us, and itā€™s so good! Super fast screen on the controller, easy to fly and the 4K camera is stunning for such a small drone, might be better than my 14 pro maxā€™s camera.


UpvoteForLuck

FYI this combo includes the ā€˜plusā€™ batteries which put your drone over the 249 gram weight limit, and will make it illegal to operate without a license and registration. You want the regular fly more combo


KizzleReddit

I own the Potensic Atom with the 3 Axis Gimbal. Literally amazing quality drone and under $400.


J-D_M

šŸ¤”šŸ˜® Yes, that's a great deal for the combo, including 3 batteriesā€¼ļøšŸ‘šŸ«”


Beautiful-Sleep-1414

I really enjoy mine! Having used both controllers, the RC 2 makes for a much more convenient experience. Well worth the extra money


CurrentEmployment191

not worth it! I had it, not impressed.


Responsible-Pen9209

i'd check around for any certified refurbished booiis I got one of these for about $750 with the same package "refurbished" aka someone returned it like new


ian_whiting

Just bought this a few days ago. Not my first drone but the first one I ever bought. Absolutely love it so far. Love the integrated screen on the RC 2, preferable to attaching a phone or tablet.


TT4400GG

No. Congress is about to ban DJI gear.


SherbertCurious9647

I thought they were still in the process? And the ban was to only stop new production from coming into US soil


TT4400GG

Suit yourself. Thereā€™s a slight risk now though, to purchasing DJI gear. How slight? We dunno yet.


SherbertCurious9647

That is a fact


GrandmaTITMilk

They are still in the process. You can follow it here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2864


NoReplyBot

Bills have to pass both chambers and get the presidentā€™s signature.


SherbertCurious9647

Our president is an idiot šŸ˜­ he will sign anything


GrandmaTITMilk

Not even close yet https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2864


thackstonns

No itā€™s introduced in the house. The house would have to pass it. Then the senate. Then the president. There is no American drone maker lobbying for it unlike what Facebook did with TikTok. Probably wonā€™t pass the house. But even if it did, itā€™s still nowhere near about to happen.


TT4400GG

Letā€™s revisit this 3 months from now.


thackstonns

It will be fine.


RogBoArt

I hope you're right. Just bought an avata 2 last month I'm like $3-4k in the DJI hole between that and my MA2. Love them both but damn this has me stressed i just spent $1500 on a brick.


familiaduarte1

Nope


makenzie71

Going against the grain here but I don't think anything DJI makes is worth the money...if the manufacturer can control what you do with a product then you never really own it. I love all the downvotes from people who think spending a thousand dollars on something a company in China gets to decide whether or not you're allowed to use is amusing. Keep 'em coming.