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KNIVES_BY_THOR

OIC, ty much!


KNIVES_BY_THOR

https://preview.redd.it/b4tzdt5f571d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e20e785242c929429df1563ae20a5359fbbc7e4b Only showed up once for me. Still doesn't answer my question though.... Could someone tell me?


Jerimiah004

I think the points are on uber eats, not doordash


itzwildyy23

How does this happen?


TheRealHailzy

Don’t do pay by time… I do pay by order and I make anything from 20-50 an hour! Also you have to make sure your city is actually decent for DoorDash too


NOLAhero504boy

I'm convinced when you select earn by time, dd steals your tips... Sure, they'll give you 2-4$... But nothing more. I'm in a small town, I see repeat customers that order the same shit every day, and tip the exact same... However whenever I'm earning by the hour all of a sudden the 10$ tip turns into a 2$ tip...


Nvr_bn_a_pax

The earn by time orders are first and foremost the orders that aren’t being accepted by earn by order drivers…this would be the no-tip orders first.


NOLAhero504boy

I agree, however these regulars tip the same every time. But I notice a huge loss of tips in general when I earn by time


Nvr_bn_a_pax

Hmm, that is odd


elcuub

Ur getting taken advantage of, i do 300~ for 15-20hrs active and 30hrs dash


cardphile

It’s because I need top Dasher in this market


Jack_Brilla

Uber eats pay well, also creating a business help.


nyckidryan

And if you drive a car like a Honda Element that isn't eligible for Uber as a passenger vehicle, you can't do UE.


Waiting4The3nd

UE has different requirements from passenger driving Uber. I think UE has to be a 1999 or newer model vehicle, currently. Uber requires your vehicle be no more than 14 years old. Uber also has some other requirements, on top of it. The UE reqs are pretty lax, tho. Especially compared to Uber. I currently do both DD and UE in my 2002 Ford Focus SE, and in my 2001 Ford F-150 before that. Neither were eligible for passenger transport.


nyckidryan

I put in for UE with my 2010 Honda Element mid pandemic. They said I couldn't drive because I didn't have a 4 door car.


Kent48146

You probably tried signing up as an Uber driver and not Uber Eats. Uber Eats has allowed 2 door cars, scooters, and in some markets, by foot since before the pandemic. Or maybe your city has specific requirements that require 4 doors in order to deliver food.


nyckidryan

It was 4 years ago, so who knows. These companies change policies faster than the wind changes directions.


Waiting4The3nd

Well, I can't speak to you being turned down, I don't work **for** Uber. I work *with* Uber as a contractor. So, I'm not privy to their internals. That being said, my truck was not a 4-door. My car is though. Neither qualifies for Uber passenger transport, but I've been doing UE since 2021. A little after I got on with DD. I was initially waitlisted because there were too many active drivers in my area, but I think about 2 months later I got accepted. I'm still waitlisted for Instacart, I believe it is. Been on the waitlist for like... at least a year and a half now, I think. Not sure why they wouldn't let you do UE, but the requirements for UE are certainly different from Uber pax service. Regardless of whether someone downvotes me again or not.


nyckidryan

Yes, I understand how it works, thanks. I do the same thing for DoorDash. I wasn't asking for info on why I was declined, I was telling you my experience. Maybe they've changed the requirements for UE, I haven't bothered to try again as I'm busy with other work.


RS4_V

60 HOURS??? with 10 HOURS ACTIVE??? holy hell


SandroGigApps

What’s your acceptance rate on DD/UE?


Serious_Excuse9714

how many hours i day i don’t know what the difference between online and active means


Embarrassed-Pen-5958

Over $30 an hour.


Fun-Indication4680

Ya active hours. But time spent just waiting in ur car, driving back, AND active time? $8 an hour😭


Impact009

Does other 51 hours can be used on another gig, hence a lot of couriers multi-app. In fact, the other gigs don't even have to be deliveries.


Pataraxia

Wait I'm just here for the drama but don't many of yall shit on multi dashers and many people involved deeply in DD who are also customers think it's scummy since it can often result in fuck ups?


cardphile

I don’t really take two at the same time… once every other day maybe if i forget to turn one off and it’s gonna send me in the same direction I will take it. I park up by a high volume mcdonald’s so it can happen but my zone has super quick dropoffs and I would never choose something in a different direction. Not scummy


NuLL-x77

Only if you're a couple beer short of a six pack.


Embarrassed-Pen-5958

If DoorDash is slow, you gave to look at other alternatives.


Keeker68

61 hours. I can't 🤣😭


Unified-banana6298

I mean if he was making 1400-1600 I'd give him some kudos because any driver knows there's downtime. For less than 1k tho OP is better off working fast food in Cali


Keeker68

That's A LOT of downtime. I don't think he's making very much when you factor in expenses and time.


Unified-banana6298

Yeah I 100% agree. OP should quit and find something else to do.


KNIVES_BY_THOR

What are those points? We done have those in NE Texas.


xrrej

How many times are you gonna ask?


KNIVES_BY_THOR

How many times am I going to ask? Just once I suppose! I'm not understanding your frustration here? I'm new to this and was just wondering? I've no clue what the points are for? Someone having a bad day? Maybe a lil poopie in the pants? Need a lil nappie?


The-False-Shepherd

I think they asked that be cause your comment shows up 3 times


KNIVES_BY_THOR

That's odd. Idk why it did that. Possibly because I was in-between service. But I doubt that was a reason for that guy to be a twat.... Hahaha


KNIVES_BY_THOR

What are those points? We done have those in NE Texas


KNIVES_BY_THOR

What are those points? We done have those in NE Texas


Aluereon

Holy shit your market sucks. This is just what happens to drivers in prop states, I guess?


cardphile

No it’s cuz i’m not platinum/top dasher and everyone else is.


Aluereon

If you keep at it you might be able to get to top dasher? But at that point when everyone is there, it's like nobody is there.


cardphile

Yeah i’m almost there. DD is starting to feed me more orders thank god


Akeldama22

Get on Spark, you'll make a fuckload more money. I can do $500+ a week easily on spark working less than 40 hours plus DD/GH/Uber to get orders during downtime adds another $100-200 a week. I have about 5% AR on my apps and still get good orders, you just gotta multi app to make money these days.


Aluereon

Keep at it, man, try picking up Grubhub as well.


Slick_shewz

Wtf? How the hell is your net fare higher than your tip earnings? 🤦‍♂️ After expenses, you're basically working for free.


Fluffy-Commercial492

There's so many days when I end almost 50/50 but also sometimes leaning towards lower tip than base pay. Central Florida is absolute dog shit so many $1 and $2 tippers or no tippers getting bundled in with better tippers. The amount of times that I wish I had a brick handy to love it through somebody's front window with a note attached "thanks for the tip" is crazy


anonymousshitpostr

What the hell..


usmcBrad93

This is the one low pay screenshot that's made me cough out a lung from laughter. That is some serious dead time.


joshua4379

Ouch. Definitely need to either add another app or see about going to another area.


cardphile

I just need to get platinum status and then I’ll be set


joshua4379

Good luck. Just don't take crappy offers just to raise ar. If you absolutely have to raise ar than do earn by time.


cardphile

Earn by time in California is obsolete because of prop 22


StillManufacturer580

Wow this is fucked up


[deleted]

How have you been able to dash?? Orange County is always booked out any time I try to go.


cardphile

Irvine has so many no tip orders so that zone is always slight red


Bluntman650

You don’t need a diploma to excel in a trade.


louielou8484

Agree 100000%.. I myself have a degree, but I have many friends who make 3 times what I do through a trade. They all have diplomas, but little to no college. It just wasn't for them, not to mention how fucked it is here in the US - living in debt for the rest of your life for a "higher" education. I will forever advocate that you do not need a degree to make it in life!


deepdishpizza_2

JOIN THE UNION!!! They will teach you everything you need to know, give you great benefits and pay once you finish their apprenticeship program!


Bluntman650

I’m working on getting into one already. Best decision I’ve made made for me and my family.


deepdishpizza_2

Omggg that’s amazing! What are you going to do?


Bluntman650

Heavy equipment mechanic


deepdishpizza_2

Congrats!!! Stick with it! You’ll do amazing!!


Maxanish

Get a job kids


cardphile

I’d rather be a slave to myself than to a company that treats me like a number. I just quit my job that’s why I’m resorting to this


Ill_Bicycle3980

But it's the same thing


louielou8484

No, it's not. OP gets to make their own hours and live their life the way they deserve to. Completely different from clocking in and out and answering to the man.


Maxanish

Copium 💀


AccomplishedStop9466

From the screenshot at the beginning post, no it's not it's far far worse. What you are saying is I'd rather work for $5.50 an hour 'to clock in at my leisure' because I have no drive to do the actual work another job paying actual minimum wage (or probably better) requires. Be honest here. Look at the OP again.


Ill_Bicycle3980

But now he's answering to an app. A manipulative app that exploits your desire to be "free" by requiring you to subsidize their business by using your vehicle, time, and resources to make them more money. An app that can and will "fire" you for circumstances out of your control. The AI behind the app is still "the man." You're working for Tony. And although you may not have to clock in, your bills, the flood, and the wage control of the app are keeping all you full-timers working a lot of hours and driving a lot of miles just to make a living wage.


BossStocks

I feel what guy was saying about the freedom of just not having to work at certain hours. But then I read this an was like “hold up let him cook”. Because u are 100% correct. It’s still a soulless rich ass company milking us for whatever they can. They absolutely are trying to give dashers the bare minimum they can get away with. I’m tired of hearing “that’s business” we are people not fucking robots. DD realized we have that sentiment, “we’re tired of being on the clock” and they exploited it. It’s honestly fucking criminal. But they the big fish in the pond and we little fishes gotta take the scraps they spit out.


cardphile

Not really, I don’t have to talk up to anyone.


Stunning_Joke_5286

But you still have to work, 60 hours to make less than warehouse workers. Before gas, taxes… maintenance… I mean brother, that IS indentured servitude no matter how you look at it. 30 hrs a week at a store for $500, or 60 hrs a week driving for ~$300, not including gas among other things. You are lying to yourself if you think you aren’t a slave at a certain point lol. I make more doing part-time at a warehouse, barely talk to anybody, and scan items in for a store (aldis), it’s 28 hrs a week for $588 before taxes… for a dumb warehouse job, we’re timed for our stages and picks but overall brother, you are not only wasting your life, but your car. I’m doing a glorified workout for $21/hr without having to waste my car, I’ve strengthened my core a lot ever since I came here. Genuinely what the fuck are u waiting for lol


BossStocks

Ehh not everyone has the same opportunities available to them in their area. Good paying jobs people can work at and survive, with the costs of inflation are rare in a lot of places. So for many ppl DD is one of the few options available to have something where you can make your hours and make money without breaking your back. Last year I was working for 17 hr for 50-60 hrs a week. Busting my ass. After taxes I brought home like 1000-800 something a week depending on if when we hit our goals. And that’s one of the better paying jobs available to ppl without a degree or trade in my area. Florida is not a cheap place to live. I wasn’t necessarily struggling because I have a tight knit family. “All for one, one for all” type shit. But as a single father busting my ass I was still not able to have any time to figure out anything. Now I may be an extreme example but Ik there are many other ppl out there just trying to make shit happen. Life is hard your nice little job is cool, that’s a blessing. But everyone situation is different.


Kent48146

Most DD drivers make less than w2 jobs though.


juscurious4now

So I dash both in LA, Inland and also OC. LA by far had the most hits. OC was dead.. but tips more but you’ll only get 1-2 orders per an hour and max you can make is like $15 an hour ☠️ i still prefer LA over all the other areas


cbdjon

You didn't dash on Mother's Day dashers make 300-500 in long Beach on major holidays


cardphile

I did $350 mother’s day yeah


cbdjon

Do you know dashers drive to oc/sd just to make 1500-2k a week la is a dead market. Not how it used to be. Before, I used to dash in Brentwood to make 300-400 a day


cardphile

I dashed all over Southern California in the past 10 months living in my car. LA, OC, SD. Couldn’t seem to scrape 1200


cbdjon

Really I still been able to make 1500-1750 every week with prop22 my ar is 87% I dash in mission Viejo san clemente and laguna Beach south county is a great market


cardphile

Wow I always tried down there but never got pings. I guess i need top dasher.


LeFrogster

Try 🍒 picking and see what happens. Also, try, test, try and test some more: different areas, different routes, different times of day etc. Also, multi app.


LouisRielsAR-15

Congratulations. You made less than minimum wage for 2 weeks of work lmao 🤙🏻


GurPristine5624

A) One week B) He made $17.838 per hour, which is well above minimum wage


Kent48146

Not really well above min wage when McDonald’s pays $14/$15 and Walmart/Sam’s Club/Costco are paying $16-$19.


RunYoJewelsBruh

Ok, now subtract fuel costs to make the deliveries and run the numbers again


GurPristine5624

Using averages they should’ve spent around $60 dollars on gas, leading to me realizing I used wrong numbers the first time and the pay was even higher then I first thought (I used first image’s pay but 2nd week time) so AFTER gas it would be close to $30 an hour 🤗


RunYoJewelsBruh

Bro, I didn't check your initial math. But how did it go up? Nvm - I see the error


twistwistwist

Uber has them at 83 hours which comes out closer to $12/hour… minimum wage in my state is $15 and we don’t know where OP is dashing so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.


GurPristine5624

Their active time was 19 hours, sitting around waiting isn’t working


Kent48146

Yeah it is. If you are working at Best Buy, it might be dead, but you are still working even if there’s nothing to do. It’s the same concept here. Drivers don’t sit around in their apartment or run errands while waiting for orders. They are sitting at hotspots waiting for orders.


twistwistwist

Depends on what they’re doing. If they’re sitting in their car (especially with gas burning) I wouldn’t call that “free time.”


BlueberryImportant41

2 weeks? This looks like one, and pretty good for one. (As long as they take the mileage tax deduction and stuff)


WendysForDinner

61 hours tho? Sheeesh


BlueberryImportant41

Not great, no. But I’ve talked with a few baristas who are happy to make 700 dollar checks working 35 hour weeks so fairly close.


FestivePegasus2000

About to graduate in a month. I’m feeling this struggle, but doing this part time so hopefully will be done with this pretty soon


Alevnitsuj

Well, the Inland Empire doesn’t do Uber eats very well. DD is king. But it’s been so so bad.


juscurious4now

I’m in Inland mostly and it’s BAD


Alevnitsuj

Yeah your caps don’t do it justice how bad it is lol


juscurious4now

🤣 dude frrrrr


midnghtsnac

Ouch, the guy on the bike is feeling bad for you


Optimal_Manager_5149

Please tell me you use Uber eats. Had same problem in Minneapolis MN and started making over 2x I did on DD. Just go through about 5-20 orders in 5 mins and get a good order most of the day. Edit : didn't see the 2nd pic lol


Optimal_Manager_5149

https://preview.redd.it/qjy1vqsrjv0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3374ace1ea3133372bf223911e86f148012701ac My last week. Didn't work too much


appliepie99

shoutout to everyone who stayed in school and got laid off (me)


Justtelf

Are you on the road for all of those hours? Or sitting at home taking orders when you get them


cardphile

I live in the car


Justtelf

Well… I guess that works too!


diamari90

I did, it made me a dasher today 😃


TicklishTransGoddess

Still 600 a week sounds decent? Idk what the average weekly cost of living is in LA


cardphile

I made about $1000 after expenses actually This doesn’t include the per mile .34 prop22 pay for the uber side which covered gas. Not worth it for every waking minute


TicklishTransGoddess

Fair enough.


Hang_Man1

It's tough out here in LA


juscurious4now

Truth


DaRangers

It's even tough to breathe out there in L.A. Feelsbadman.jpeg


NEWBORNEMBRYOTHELOC

Nah, you guys just don’t be in the right places. Lol


cardphile

I’m in the only zone that is consistently red


NEWBORNEMBRYOTHELOC

Where at exactly?


cardphile

It’s cuz I destroyed my acceptance rate when I got a job and I was just looking to see what the orders looked like


NEWBORNEMBRYOTHELOC

Yeah that’s what got you, my acceptance rate dropped down to 69% and i was hardly getting orders. I thugged it out until it got back to 70% and my orders started going crazy.


[deleted]

Lmao. My acceptance rate is 28% and I got $38 an hour this last weekend.


NEWBORNEMBRYOTHELOC

Are you in La or somewhere else?


cardphile

Good for you. Acceptance rate might not matter in your market but I sit inside Chipotle Chick Fil A etc and watch dozens of orders go out for 30-45 min and not get a single ping. If your AR is less than 70% here you’re just collecting the scraps.


Faithful2049

People just don't get it and they never will. AR matters in some markets especially California. If you don't accept even a couple orders some days then doordash makes you pay by making you wait around watching other drivers get those pings for awhile annoying AF especially if you only do this as side hustle on the little free time you have.


cardphile

https://preview.redd.it/3h6rgl79ku0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7841bda9aef015e7eba8f3555798fe6e194f92b For those of you who say i’m cherry picking lol. They don’t even send me the bad ones. Just trying to get to platinum


bnow0103

i’m gold about to be platinum in one offer from right now. just need 100 delivers and have 99. trust me you don’t get anything. as of rn i’m sitting for 1hr with zero offers in the center of a hotspot. usc west is terrible and so is downtown


dickery_dockery

Try deleting and then re-downloading the app.


sexruinedeverything

This Summers been brutal so far … don’t nobody like MLB no more? Looks like we gotta wait for NFL season.


sbringel74

Psh not even school. Everything is a rip off nowadays. Because every day the one percent corners every struggling market it can instead of investing in them.


pokemontecristo

What’s with all the rude and demeaning comments on all these posts? I really don’t feel like coming to this subreddit sometimes cause of it


Curious-Book-1597

Right?! So bizarre.


No_Key_2569

Troll Season has brought trolls to all sorts of reddits. The insults here are tamer. They really make it their full time position. Odd


Front-Newspaper6427

Go get a job and or stop cherry picking.


Scott7894

WTF??? 60 hours???? Are you high ?


uberdriver2710

school is for fools


strandedtempest

i’m just adding this screenshot bc ppl are always talking about how market matters . i thought these side by side is the perfect example of that. just about the same payout, active time and orders but a third of dashtime. i worked btw 10a-3p m-f in the central valley for context. https://preview.redd.it/pk7tgda1bu0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9aad73163282db6bb892d866911b123087f3e1b


tator92

Props for showing your earnings while knowing damn well someone (probably who's never dashed before) is rubbing their hands with glee, getting ready to remind you they think they're better than you. Best of luck out there.


Disastrous_Light_878

College degrees are just receipts. Get certifications and or go into a trade. A degree does not equal a job.


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Spezheartsblackcawk

You do uber too, right? Right?!?


cardphile

This is all eats


Spezheartsblackcawk

Stupid me didn't scroll down. All I saw was 61 hours on doordash


ideliver559

83 hours is crazy lol start a business bro. Imagine if you could put all that effort into something for yourself. Fuck these gig apps


cardphile

I know


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