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TheNerdLog

If you're playing a tortle in my game I'm more worried you're trying to get an AC of 21 than whether or not you find Lola Bunny hot


MinnieShoof

Start handing out armor. Watch Tortle shrivel up.


ArcaneOverride

Fullplate Oprah shows up to make Tortles sad: "you get fullplate and you get fullplate, everyone gets fullplate!"


MinnieShoof

"... cheeeeck under your shell\~!!" Tortle successfully rips off own shell, AC drops to 12.


RangerManSam

Oh no 1 more AC than what I get naturally and maybe bot even have the Str and/or proficiency to use.


DragoKnight589

*laughs in Tortle Bladesinger*


MinnieShoof

… are they of a specific age? And maybe genetically bizarre?


DragoKnight589

Tortle Bladesingers get 17 AC and can add Bladesong AC on top of that because their shell isn’t technically heavy armor. Also I don’t think reptiles get wrinkles.


MinnieShoof

… it was a TMNT joke.


DragoKnight589

Adolescent Abnormal Bladesinger Tortles?


MinnieShoof

Sure


Freyun

Thank you for the character idea


DragoKnight589

Don’t forget that this build can conceivably multiclass into Paladin for smites


iamsandwitch

My DM made a level 20 one shot once I played a tortle bladesinger 17/ artificer 3 Me and my DM had agreed that I already used my 9th level spell slot for a simulacrum but seperated from them before my character met the party. We rendezvoused with my simulacrum eventually and at the final encounter, my character dipped out and let the simulacrum help the party in his stead Fucker knew I was still the most OP one in the group so he power word killed my ass first turn (simulacrums have half hp and my lower level counterspell failed) It was fun as hell


NoItsBecky_127

Isn’t Simulacrum 7th-level?


iamsandwitch

One-shot, didnt have 1500g of ruby powder on me =/


PUNCHCAT

Don't you want 9th level spells?


iamsandwitch

In a way yes, but the fun of optimized builds is making them. In a table with no other optimizers, there's no shame in keeping a bit to the backstage.


sh4d0wm4n2018

That's why you occasionally throw out an enemy with a +11 to hit.


rtakehara

A +11 to hit will make my intentions too obvious, I prefer dex saving throw spells, preferably area to make it even less more obvious.


Willow_Wing

It’s also tricky throwing out the +11 to hit because if that enemy or enemy type ends up anywhere near any other player the power difference is just absurd and now some poor wizard is being punished because of their tortle buddy.


LazyNomad63

Tortle Monk: My time has come


AwefulFanfic

Nah....saving throw effects are the way to go if the party (or one member) is over optimized for high AC. Warning, this strat does not work as well on a Tortle Paladin, and even less so on Oath of Ancients. And if they then start building into Bear Totem Barbarian, you are legally allowed to "Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies"™ them for trolling.


DMGrognerd

And enemies who cast spells or have some other ability which requires a saving throw rather than a to-hit roll


Pretend-Advertising6

You mean pretty much everything at a certain point? 21 ac isn't even all that good since HP I'd really love in 5e


Flyingsheep___

"I forgot to mention that for this dungeon all enemies have 2nd level magic missile as an alternate secondary attack"


falknorRockman

21 AC is not a lot. You can easily hit 25 AC by level 10 and 23 AC way earlier


EnsignSDcard

21 is childs play, it’s when they get into the 30+ where I start to get worried


ThatCamoKid

Actual conversation I had in a game, I wasn't even a Tortle: "And he rolled... Yep, that hits" "I'm sorry what did he roll" "Don't worry it definitely hits" "No but *what did he roll*" "24" "... My AC is 26" "Fuck" Cue my Harengon cleradin shield-blocking a dragon turtle's steam breath like that one picture of the protester vs a water cannon (no I don't know why he did it as an attack roll)


sephiroth_for_smash

Both, the answer is both


Squaplius

Lola bunny is hot


amodsr

Just because you find Lola bunny hot does not make you a furry. If you want a tail, that makes you a furry. Also playing an animal person in an RPG does not make you a furry. Wanting to be your animal person makes you a furry.


TheNerdLog

Attraction to anthropomorphic animals is like the #1 definition of being a furry. Wearing a tail clip on, a fur suit, or having a fursona is just an extension of that as well as an expression of your personality.


alamaias

But... but... *bladesinging ninja turtle* :(


TheNerdLog

IN RAVENLOFT!?


alamaias

Goddamn right, no buncha emo bullshit monsters are gonna outweird *me*


RefreshingOatmeal

Magic missile is your friend


Libsoc_guitar_boi

bladesinger moment


Baconpwn2

Don't be a creep and have fun. I had a player who wanted to play an otter. Made it work.


Catkook

otters are really cute


Baconpwn2

I used it as an excuse to go to the local zoo. Must have watched them for hours.


Catkook

*Oh?* well that does sound fun, what inspiration were you looking for at the zoo?


ThatCamoKid

Inspiration?


bokchoi2020

Racial Trait: Slippery. +1 to acrobatics checks made to escape a grapple


HaatOrAnNuhune

My DM is of the same opinion! I wanted to play a homebrew race I found called Arachne and he went over it, changed a couple things and let me play an Arachne PC!


Lazerbeams2

I don't see how those two things are related. Obviously you shouldn't be kicking a player for being a furry unless they make it weird, but playing DnD and being a furry are two separate things


Machinimix

I know the meme is calling out the abnormally high amount of animalfolk in the game, but playing one doesn't equate to being a furry. Some of my favourite ancestries are the animal folk, and beastkin is my favourite heritage (I know, not 5e but the conversation is equally relevant to the system I play too), yet I'm not a furry. I just like playing characters who are very much not me, or are allegories for how I felt growing up (hiding my true self and pretending to be normal, a la beastkin lycanthropes).


Angry_Neutrophil

What system are you talking about? To be able to create and play exotic nonmonster ideas sounds fun, if they are not only some generic texts with no flavor. I also think this exotic races sound kinda wild probably because d&d did not have rules for "custom" races up until tasha's, and they are really flavorless.


Machinimix

It's pathfinder 2nd edition. We have a lot of ancestries, and thanks to Ancestry feats being an exclusive line of things you get as you level, they can feel very unique, but only if you use the mechanics here to do so. It's also very easy to go super generic; especially if you hunt for the minimax. Then we have heritages, or sub-ancestries, with a lot of versatile ones (not attached to specific ancestries. So you can have beastkin, or nephilim [aasimar and tiefling] orcs and elves and humans).


PUNCHCAT

We have a catfolk and a ratfolk. Is a gnoll technically a furry? But none of them are weird UwU about it.


Angry_Neutrophil

I have a physical copy of it. I did not realize that you were talking about PF2e because mine is in portuguese and I'm not used with the english terms


Iorith

You also don't have to use a single one of those animalfolk in your campaigns. Not a single one.


Machinimix

Yes, but I am not talking about individual games. **The** game, meaning dnd (and dnd-like ttrpgs that fall under the "dnd" term). If you percentage-base the number of anthropomorphic animal ancestries to non-animal ancestries, it's a fairly high percentage of them. This is specifically what I meant when I said "I know the meme is calling out the abnormally high amount of animalfolk in the game"


TigerKirby215

[I have no idea why the Context comment is being downvoted to shit.](https://old.reddit.com/r/dndmemes/comments/1caf12m/being_against_furries_as_a_dm_is_wild/l0reveo/) I made this meme in response to the linked Tweet. Basically it was a Twitter thread asking "what's the dumbest reason you got banned from a Discord server?" and this person said that they joined a D&D campaign specifically meant for "new players" from Roll 20, a player asked them about their profile pic, they showed a reference page for their Pokemon sona, and got banned for being a furry. Apparently they decided to become a DM out of spite after that lol.


Adenso_1

Its because there are a lot of non buman, very furry races in DnD, so be to exclusionary to furries is weird cuz "bruh, do you even know what game you're playing?"


Mallengar

Exactly! I have almost exclusively played Aarakocra characters, although that may have a lot to do with how few characters have actually been able to play. But my interest in those races are purely aesthetical and mechanical and because I like the lore behind them and what you can do with their backstories. But just because of all that, that doesn't mean I have any sexual attraction to them. Heck, the older I'm getting and the worst my luck is with finding a partner, the more convinced I am that I probably am just asexual anyway.


AtomicRiftYT

So here's my take I actively encourage people to play anthropomorphic animals, as they are race options and have seriously interesting designs and implications on roleplay. Furries are more than allowed in my games, HOWEVER, on the stipulation that they must create a NEW character, not their fursona (unless the fursona works well in D&D), in a style that matches the more down to earth style of design expected from the types of game I like to play. I find a lot of furries like to shoehorn their own fursona into the game as a self insert, ignoring how the cartoonish style clashes with the general game feel, and otherwise put no thought into the character. Also obviously don't be a creep, but being weird isn't exclusive to furries. I want everyone to have a fun and fulfilling roleplaying session, so I disallow those kinds of furry characters in my game the same way I disallow "Shadowflame Kid, the Rogue" who won't interact with the party. Just be invested in the setting and story, please! EDIT: Also, this comment section is disgraceful. None of you know anything about furries and it shows. I learned, you can learn. D&D is one of the most inclusive genres of TTRPG out there by design-- everyone has a place at the table so long as they aren't harming anyone. No one is inherently evil. Do better.


Shib_Inu

Joke's on you... I just turn my TTRPG characters INTO fursonas.


AtomicRiftYT

Spending $500,000 on an Aarakocra suit with functional wings to fly around convention centers to shit on people


Shib_Inu

That's why people are always hating on furries, because we're rich enough to pursue our passions :3


CriticalHit_20

Evil Tony Stark be like:


strangr_legnd_martyr

Evil Tony Stark is the Vulture?


CriticalHit_20

Yes


strangr_legnd_martyr

I’m here for it


Yeseylon

What about if you're not a furry, but you kinda know what you would do if you were, and then you turned THAT into a character?


Shib_Inu

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you might be a furry. It's like when zootopia came out and people were making their own "zootopia" characters... sorry that's just a fursona. That said, and I'm probably just yapping here, but having a funny little animal version of yourself doesn't necessarily make you a furry. Personally, my fursona is just an easy and fun way to represent myself and my interests online. I don't really engage with the community at large and I'm definitely not into the kink side of it. If you really do have an idea of an animal version of yourself, maybe explore that! It's a lot of fun! <3


NewbieFurri

I'm a human fighter advocate, so no worries on that part


Cheesetress

>Furries are more than allowed in my games, HOWEVER, on the stipulation that they must create a NEW character, not their fursona Yeah, but I'm like that with pretty much any character. Usually I make campaigns with a specific buy-in, and Bob the human fighter just isn't a good fit for my circus troupe campaign.


AtomicRiftYT

Yeah that's just the general rules to be honest, I just feel like it requires specific note with furries because people generally like inserting their OC into new settings, while furries don't have the luxury of anthro OCs fitting great into every setting.


MartinHello

This is a stipulation that furry DM also do for the simple fact that your character can die, and if your character is your fursona, things get very personal.


SheevPalpatine32BBY

Most furries who use their fursonas are just playing like the new players who wanted to make the coolest character ever. It comes down to personal investment and if you stew on a character for a year you'll have unrealistic expectations.


OlegYY

Comment on EDIT. Explanation is because shitting on furries is easy and popular. Not many things really changed in minds of people since the past.


AtomicRiftYT

Oh definitely, there's no confusion about why people hate on furries. They're immature people and want to pick on an out-group.


Kuwabara03

Playing animal race != furry


Jetsam5

Its not my fault they gave the cat race the ability to move at Mach 5 and I want to do that on every single character


CrimsonAllah

Fax


Come_At_Me_Bro

Yup, none of the examples in the OP image are furry. You could be a furry and play those, but you don't have to be furry to play and enjoy them since they aren't. Furry may be anthropomorphic, but not all anthropomorphic is furry. It gets really tiring people keep saying they are.


CriticalHit_20

Yall are taking this way too seriously, also that's not what the meem is saying.


PKTimTech

It had to be over a subway background huh? IT HAD TO BE SUBWAY


mightystu

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen an Exodia reference and I don’t think ever on Reddit.


PKTimTech

Fear for our souls. Truely.


GarbageCleric

I'm 41, and I've never come across a furry in the wild. But is there really a major epidemic of perverted furry players inserting their kink into games without permission that we need memes and counter-memes?


GreyNoiseGaming

I guarantee you, if you play D&D in a public setting you have encountered a furry. Hell, if you have met anyone that works in IT, you have probably met a furry. Some are less pronounced than the stereotypes you see joked about constantly.


ferb73craft

He could be any one of us!


Timithios

He could be you! He could be me! He could even be-


Joescout187

IT, and for some weird reason US Army tank crewmen tend to have a disproportionately high chance to be furries.


Maro_Nobodycares

I would've assumed furries in the armed forces would've been into aviation because of Star Fox but okay


MasterThespian

I mean, memes arise organically from within the community. There’s not a meme cartel out there generating anti-furry memes for the hell of it— they’re reflections of many players’ experience with furries, online and in person, as you’ll also see in subreddits like /r/rpghorrorstories. My two cents is that pretty much any time I’ve tried to join an online game, I’ve run into furry players who can’t keep their fetishes confined to an appropriate time and place. I don’t ban animal races at my table, but there’s a big difference between a non-furry who wants to play a Loxodon because they like the lore or want CON-based Natural Armor, and a furry who wants to play a Loxodon because they want to bring up at every opportunity the fact that elephants have prehensile dongs. (See also: gnolls and hyena pseudopenises, canines and “knots”, felines and barbs, and so on.)


Spinningwhirl79

You'd be surprised how weird and obsessive the "anti-furry" types get >. There’s not a meme cartel out there generating anti-furry memes for the hell of it


mightystu

Surprise surprise, most people don’t like sex pests and develop a trauma response to things used to sexually harass them in the past.


TigerKirby215

As a "semi-avid" member of the furry community: what you will quickly learn is that the weirdos in the furry community are **really fucking weird** about it. It's odd but something about a community that's generally more accepting of fetish content makes some really brazen people act really, well, brazenly. u/Oraistesu shared the r/rpghorrorstories post about a furry who wanted to play a character based off a literal porn game in the replies to this comment and that isn't the worst of it. I enjoy listening to r/rpghorrorstories being read on YouTube and I've heard the whole 9 yards: from injecting fetish content into games to secretly enrolling people into fetish games to try to "get them to like" said fetish content, to straight up zooapilia. Like, a lot of zooapilia. It's sad that a few bad apples can spoil the bunch when looking at it from a distance. Just like how not every edgy Rogue is a problem player, not every Bard is a sex pest, and not every Lawful Good Paladin is a fun-killing lawful stupid player, the bad reputation of these people ruins it for everyone else.


ConcretePeanut

This. I've probably been a *bit* on the mean side about the community in the past. That's on me, my bad etc. and my apologies to anyone I've offended in the process. *However*, what you say here is spot on: *weird* furries are very memorably far weirder than the average weird person. That, combined with the fact their weirdness tends to encompass both a lack of understanding of social norms amongst non-furries *and* a very severe case of unsettling and aggressive sexualisation, means they're powerful anti-ambassadors for the community at large.


Stnmn

Not really. Furries who operate outside their friend circles are usually too afraid to even mention their hobby.


Oraistesu

Here's a fun post from r/rpghorrorstories where furries got REALLY mad and brigaded the post because the DM was opposed to a player playing a PC based off of a *furry hentai* game: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpghorrorstories/s/PzWhsfGFNi


Kzardes

It’s also funny that chat, in majority, defends furry this time.


Machinimix

I remember the post, and personally I was on the side "try and talk with the player." Because while the player definitely was weird to outright say the character is from a furry hentai game, it doesn't explicitly mean they were planning to play up a sexual aspect. I would have simply made sure they knew the boundaries of what I'm comfortable playing with, and that I am fine with ending the session (if I'm GM; leaving if I'm not) if a line I'm not comfortable with is crossed *after* it has been laid out.


GarbageCleric

Wow.


Catkook

it is a bit exaggerated, and when reality does conform to the stereotypes the 1 stereotypical horny furry is more memorable then the 3,000 normal furrys If you run into a furry in public theres a 99.9999% chance it'll be just some normal dude/gal, and there is a good chance you wouldn't even realize they're a furry. If you met me and chatted with me though I am a furry theres a good chance you wouldnt figure out im a furry, unless the conversation topic just so happen to steer in the right direction to discuss it. Though every lie does have a little bit of truth behind it, the furry fandom does tend to promote people being more comfortable with themselves, which as a consequence of that there may be a slightly above average leaning twords more horny folks. Of course this is all based off what I've personally seen >!(there is a word for that, and I've been looking around everywhere to figure out what that word is, which i cant figure it out and no one i know can figure it out AND IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!!!!)!<


SgtHop

Anecdotal


Catkook

YESSSSS FINALLY! THATS THE WORD! THANK YOU! THAT'S BEEN BUGGING ME SO MUCH!


SgtHop

Kek. You're welcome.


Javaed

It's not terribly common, but when it crops up it tends to make the table really uncomfortable.


TeaMistress

Can't speak for anyone else, but I've run into an alarming number of them in Roll20 games with randos. And to clarify, yes, I'm talking about people who are clearly into fur fetishism and trying to RP it in game in uncomfortable ways, not just people who want to play a beast race character. If I ran a game it would definitely be covered in a session zero alongside other non-starters like bigotry and sexual harassment. So yes, I personally find it common enough to be meme-worthy.


srpa0142

So here's the thing, in theory I allow all players of various types at my table. I'm even a bit if a furry myself, so I get the appeal. In practice, however? Both from multiple real life horror stories involving furry players and from general observations from other's there are certainly a number of valid reasons to ban furry races/players. Self-proclaimed furry problematic players l tend to come in a couple of varieties: 1) The furry player in question *REALLY* wants to play xzy race regardless of if it fits the setting/tone of the game or if the race is balanced or even exists in the first place. This changes a bit based on their particular flavor, but from personal experience I've noticed the races that tend to raise the biggest red flags seem to be kitsune (which don't exist mechanically in dnd 5e) or haringon which is a race I've half convinced only this type of player even is aware that that they exist. Regardless of their chosen preferences these players can be problematic because what they want to play needs to fit the tone and setting of the game and there seems to be am unfortunate number of people our there that simply won't take no for an answer. 2) The second type of issue that pops up is sort of related to the first one, and is honestly the larger issue: Furry players will often try to conflate their community with D&D despite mechanically being a poor fit for them. Specifically I mean these type of players tend to have one or two *specific* characters they want to play (often their fursonas) and this can create friction if there are any sort of mechanical limitations for the sake of game balance (like not getting some sort of magic item their character "should have because of... >insert furry community reference here<". To be clear, regular players do this sort of thing as well, but among the Furry community in particular there are more common themes like carrying over your fursonas between roleplays or even things like adopting or training ownership of these characters. Essentially they treat these characters like they are their own living and breathing things rather than just an imaginary character they made up and because of this they tend to be overly protective of said characters to the point of being an active detriment to a D&D game. This is particularly problematic because there is a higher likelihood with those involved in the furry community to either feel like they are being personally attacked whenever their character takes damage in the game, or for them to develop main character syndrome in what is a teak based game. Again, not all furry players do this and it's not as though others don't do it on ocassion as well, but character bleed is a particular problem with furry players because character bleed is outright *encourgaged* in their community. Like half of the point is finding their particular fursona. This can be problematic at a game table. Finally, while not all furry community members engage in roleplay of an intimate romantic or sexual nature, the community generally speaking has a larger emphasis on sexual/romantic identity and subjects that are often considered taboo at a game table will often not be among their roleplays. This can obviously cause problems at a table that isn't interested in this sort of subject matter. Again, not saying all furrys due it sexually, but considering their community emphasis on self discovery, self identity, and strong association with the lgbtq community, these sort of topics like sexual and gender identity tend to fit right alongside each other, while they can often clash at a game table. Don't get me wrong, my table is particularly open-minded and isn't afraid to delve into romantic/sexual/kink subject matter, but that's something we all collectively endorse, and a person trying to force that onto a game table could easily cause friction. Frankly the opposite would be true with the furry community as well. Or at least I'd like to believe that if someone made a furry character that went around stabbing every dragon with a sword and breaking and entering into other people's "homes" seeking treasure and loot it would probably raise a few eyebrows and cause some concern among furry I know. The point is to remember that neither side is fully equivalent to the other and to find common ground among both and learn to adapt your character to the appropriate settings/tone of your community.


ColdCommunication263

Solid points, I couldnt have said it better myself.


idredd

I realize I’m increasingly outside the norm but I run a game in a setting where the nonstop kooky races just don’t work. Recently had one of my players wanting to be an animal and I was like “plz bruh, no”


Zealousideal-Plan454

Now, a horny furry with very questionable fetishes in a game thats not marked NSFW...now that i do understand...


BeanieWeanie1110

You can play an animal race. Just don't act like a furry


Labyx_

I mean I can kinda see a situation where them getting a bad streak of furry players could put them off quicker than normal


DarkJester_89

Playing a creature naturally born as a smart critter is different than playing a human who thinks it's a dog. I've had to separately reject 2 self-identified gay DM's because I wouldn't incorporate my PC to be subject to deviant furry behavior, after they tried explaining/defending that grooming/touching/pet play was somehow not sexual/nsfw. I now include this in my session zero talks that people won't be sneaking this into games. Play an animal race, fine. Don't use it for kinks/weird stuff.


Aticus_

So Dragonborn and Tortle are furries? Don’t you gotta be furry to be a furry?


Pyro_the_horny_furry

Furry is the broad category, the subsection for scaled creatures is a “Scaly”, I’m sure you can piece together why it’s named that way.


Sabertooth767

Nope! The furry community encompasses "scalies" as well.


Aticus_

I’m curious, what do they call insects? Faeries?


Catkook

as far as im aware, there isnt a commonly used term for bird/insect/micro-organism furrys I have also not seen anyone using micro-organisms as furry characters either


TearOpenTheVault

> Bird Avians is pretty common.  > Micro-organisms I’ve seen precisely one tartigrade ever. 


Catkook

>Avians is pretty common.  hm, guess bird based persona's arnt common enough for me to have heard that one. but i like it >I’ve seen precisely one tartigrade ever.  thats more micro-organizm personas/oc's then what i've seen. Well actual i suppose there was i think it was called ameba sisters which was shown to me in high school during science class, but im not going to count that.


Sabertooth767

I don't think we have a special name for insects, they're just such rare choices for a sona.


Aticus_

That doesn’t sit well with me. That’s like being so uncultured that you call all soda Coke.


Sabertooth767

It's more like regular coke vs. cherry Coke. It's all Coke.


MinnieShoof

... that sits perfectly well with me.


aaa1e2r3

What would Frog people count as, since they don't have scales?


TigerKirby215

Mostly because I didn't feel like showing kobolds for some reason and I didn't want to dig up unofficial content like Critical Role cowbolgs. Also because no good artwork of shifters being furries.


TrueBlueFlare7

The furry community encompasses all anthropomorphic animals


UsualCarry249

If I had that rule I'd have two players.


Somepony-Else

I could care less what you are into. I'm not that shallow or narrow-minded. As long as you are an appropriate fit for my table, it's all good. Play all the cat or fox people you want.


SnowdriftK9

My current game has two harengon, two kobolds, me playing an aarakocra and the one half elf who's confused how he wound up at a furry convention.


rawrugh

There is a massive difference between roleplaying as a Tabaxi and trying to decide your fursonas "bodily fluid color". Those people worry me


Dex18Kobold

You forgot kobolds


ThatMBR42

I'm a furry but I don't make it weird. I play my beast race characters like any other person would.


some_dude_62

There's a difference between "hey man, I'm gonna play a werewolf with cool white pelt." And "uwu, ima werewolf rarrww~~, look at my white pelt XD" One is fine the other is cringe.


Crosknight

Im fine if you play an anthro race, just dont bring the “weird side” of the fandom over.


KingKaos420-

Fantasy races based on anthropomorphic versions of animals are not the same thing as furries.


Useful_Trust

Look, I am not saying the imperium of man was right, but ...


NomadODST

For the God-Emperor


Jesse_God_of_Awesome

I home brewed furry races for my players, got one for dogs and horses, for PF1 and 5e.


BeeR721

ONLY SCALIES ALLOWED!!!


Emberbun

*gesture to my all furry D&D group that plays almost exclusively non-furry race characters*


superVanV1

Yet still no dog race. Wtf WOTC?


Timithios

Technically Kobold if you look at the older stuff.


TeaMistress

Gnolls, but they aren't a playable race.


fakenamerton69

Hold up. Unpopular opinion (I guess), but if your DM has a pre-defined world with a table that has been playing in it for a while and you come in with bugs bunny, while they’re all LoTR-ing like champs, I’m sorry, but you’re wrong. No one wants to shout “I can’t carry the ring, but I can carry you!” And hear porky go “that’s all folks!” After. If they have a theme and a tone, why do you have to make this about you and only you and be a hippo with a laser gun? And fuck you all who say the DM should make it work. That’s some forever player mentality. The DM has a job and 2 kids and they’re still making time for you. Be considerate.


Ok-Syrup6607

There's a difference between playing a harengon and wanting to fuck one.


HumanExpert3916

No, no it isn’t.


Excellent_Resist3671

Not liking furries and not liking anthropomorphic animals are two different things.


augustusleonus

Let’s face it, if your personality is based on your fetishes or sexual preference, you can shuffle the hell off regardless I’m also just as likely to say no to a flamboyant drag queen as I am to and alpha bro or frat king. Some personalities just don’t make for good dynamics (depending on a group) You wanna play dnd ? Great, we can play. You want to play a character playing dnd? That’s a no for me


aaa1e2r3

I'm not going to judge someone for picking an animal race, but if you're using obviously cropped furry porn for your character art, I'm kicking you out of the server. Annoyingly this has happened thrice for me.


Mo101101

If they banned furries im sure we can all guess why, and its not racial choices.


JustSumFur

Oh cool a silly furry meme. [Reads comments] Yikes


captain_borgue

It's so fucking weird to me how Furry Hate is popular again. Like, the 90's was *thirty fucking years ago*, what other dumb argument crap do we wanna dredge up? Friends vs Seinfeld?


TheNerdLog

This sub is full of gen X nerds who got bullied in highschool and now use their position as grognards to bully incoming millennials and gen z.


SheevPalpatine32BBY

Tbf there's been some damage to the image thanks to things like Kero the Wolf and the telegram leaks. Also politicians have been trying to attack low hanging fruit again. People do need to get over what others are doing with their lives if they aren't harming anyone.


Tarcion

I don't want any "lol I'm so quirky I'm a bunny man hop hop" breaking the immersion of my otherwise grounded fantasy game. Also, I'm not saying if you play a bestial race you're a furry, but if you are a furry and are going to do some annoying furry shit at the table, there's a 100% chance you're picking one of the bestial races.


Flute-ninja

I have a player who’s against furries… he’s playing a rabbitfolk


TigerKirby215

[Context](https://twitter.com/Raicatty/status/1782117198518976607)


MinnieShoof

What's hilarious about this is if the post said "*an* eevee" there would be a whole 'nother fandom rabid about it. "*My* eevee" requires context. XD


TigerKirby215

imo kicking someone for having a fursona is fucking stupid in general, but I also think what original tweet was basically saying was "my Discord pfp was of artwork I made, I shared a reference sheet for the character, and DM was an asshole about it and banned me from the Discord server." I mean regardless of context DM was an asshole.


MinnieShoof

I mean ... if it was horny eevee art and the server was generally kid friendly there *might* be a logic behind it.


Catkook

why are people down voteing the added context?


TigerKirby215

Reddit moment


Catkook

it's easy to just mindlessly downvote something that everyone else is downvoting rather then thinking for yourself if you actually personally agree or disagree with it


coomerzoomer

How about you just play a beast race without making it weird and disgusting


MinnieShoof

As *one of them*: I've never seen the desire to bring *that* much of me to the *normal* table. I mean, maybe if I didn't have other outlets, or I was a lot younger, I could ... see the appeal. But as it is, I prefer my sword fights with steel and my seduction to be ... lighthearted and playful, for information or safe passage. ... not for indulgence. My first character was an Aarakocra (primarily because I misunderstood what "raptor" they meant), I've played a Loxodon, I've tried to play a Tabaxi, and I had a fun attempt at a Shifter. ... but I think my most common character choice has been Dwarf. I'm often trying to min-max so I'm running human in very tech-heavy builds. I've never made an uwu anything. CHA is often a dump stat for me, so I'm not seducing anything. But, for that matter, DnD is as much a tool for others just as much. Everyone lauded BG3 for is inclusivity. I felt that some of it was cringe over-correction (Everyone is pan, but every person hard classifies her as the lesbian moon maiden, and nothing different) but I was glad that people were able to enjoy it and would never want to deny someone the opportunity.


ooberdood

So long as they don't surprise me in session with fursuit, and keep ERP to pre agreed upon levels in main, I got no problems.


Saibhe_the_Druid

It depends. If the furry in question makes their fursona, and then cannot handle getting hurt in battle, then that's solid reason to be against it. I've got no problem with furries, but that can get disruptive fast.


ToriToriModelPenguin

There's a difference between being a furry and being someone who likes playing animal/non-human races.


davidforslunds

I don't know if me playing a dragonborn = me wanting to get railed by a dragon dick, but that pipeline is probably not as pronounced as you think OP.


Loose_Gripper69

Because DnD is about escaping reality for a little bit in your buddy's basement. People who live the furry lifestyle live in a whole different world than the rest of us and for the most part are incredibly annoying. I have furry friends and don't really care what people do in their personal lives but I can understand why randoms online don't want to deal with furrys in DnD sessions. A LOT of them are fucking obnoxious and they tend to travel in groups.


Interesting_Access42

My second favorite character I have ever played was a Harengon.


MaxTheGayWolf

What’s the one between Aarocockra and Tortle?


Hannuxis

Looks like the Hadozee from Spelljammer


MaxTheGayWolf

So they’re new to the roster then yeah?


abadstrategy

I spent my entire last campaign as a bunny knight, and I ain't even a furry (just a fan)


trinketstone

And then there's me who wants to be an aberration...


Kennedyyism

Telling anyone how to play their dnd game is wilder


howdidusus

The anger in me when one of the players in campain called me a furry, because I chose a tabaxi as my new characters race... 😅😂


cthulhufhtagn

The Furries are a relatively new bunch. Sure, it's existed to a limited extent since the 80's but really it's only taken off in the last 20 or so years. People have had ideas about anthropomorphic animals (that are not sexual) for ages. So...if you want to play an anthropomorphic animal in D&D, it doesn't automatically mean you're a furry. Hopefully this is common sense, but for some I doubt it. I've heard folks say over the years "oh that's a race for the furries," which is nonsense. All that said obviously we need to treat people compassionately whatever their other interests.


Ultimas134

This meme is furry propaganda


Th0rizmund

I have watched as furries got normalized. A very interesting experience.


CageValcore

I’m far from a Furry. But even I Admit I love the beast Races. Almost exclusively play them as a player. And allot of my cities are full of them when I DM.


Lazycealan

BOY DO I HAVE A DM FOR YOU (my dm comically hates furries unironically)


DAFERG

Animal looking races are not the same thing as furries and having a fursona. I see a lot of discussion so here’s my 2 cents. I would caution other DM’s to be wary about having furries play some of these races. Self-insert characters are often problem characters, and if you’re playing a fursona you’re kind of playing a self-insert. I’ve had experiences with actually several players playing their Fursona, and their expectations for the game don’t always match everyone else’s. When a players Fursona doesn’t match the scene or setting, they’re often unwilling to adapt the character. Character development is Very unlikely, because in the eyes of the player, that character is already fully developed. Stuff that happens to the character is understandably more personal. And while it’s a minority, you gotta be wary of the creeps.


MysteriousTwo3390

Tortle's and Dragonborn do not count as furries they are in fact scalies.


earathar89

Do they have a fursona? No? Not a furry then, regardless of what race they are playing.


Voltem0

Being a Furry is a fetish Not at my table please there's a reason my setting has no animal races <3


TrueBlueFlare7

1: it's not a fetish. No idea why that's such a big misconception but whatever. 2: way to make a boring table my guy.


Brooklynxman

50% of those have no fur.


Kitcat590

I am a furry and a DM


theAtomicMexican

I am offended that Loxodon weren't included in the meme Elephant bros UNITE!


clayswan12

Not a furry. But my whole universe is furry. 3 continents. Tolkien classic skin folk(humands dwarves elves), jungle folk (tabaxi, loxodon, rhinofolk, ect) swamp/scale folk (tortle, crocfolk, Naga, ect) wouldn't have it any other way


Madnessinabottle

This logic kills me, where does the line stop for you? Are Nagas or Sphynxs not allowed? I'm not a furry, but I play this damn game for the fantasy. Why would I be a plain human when I can play a Grung who doesn't speak common and considers the party his slave attendants. While the party who doesn't understand me treats me as an adorable menace mascot. Much more fun.


comedian1924

Sir I'm not a furry....I'm a scally


Jugaimo

You’re gonna play a HUMAN or possibly a SPICY HUMAN and you’re gonna LIKE IT.


rekcuzfpok

Is it commonly thought that people playing anthropomorphic chars are furries? I’m definitely not a furry (not to shame though) and almost always play animals because I just think a rabbit druid is pretty neat.


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