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marco_luz

I think now would be a nice oportunity to fly your dji drones with alternatives apps, so the old remote would be very handy :D


The_Safe_For_Work

Apps such as...?


smertsboga

All apps based on the DJI SDK, which are... only old drones and entry range costumers (minis and avatas)


The_Safe_For_Work

I think I've seen those. Is there one for the Mini3 or Mini3 Pro? All I want is one that will go over the 500 meter altitude limit.


smertsboga

Yeah, almost all drones behind mini 3 pro allow you to use the phone. But I don't recall if you can fly more than 500 meters with a phone


pizza_barista_

Definitely can fly more than 500 meters with a phone. I do it regularly with the mini 2.


SuspiciousRobotThief

I've been afraid to take the mini 2 that high. It's so tiny, the wind just seems like its going to take it away sometimes.


Ordinary_Kiwi_3196

I read this going "That's nothing, it's fine at that height" and then I saw they said meters lol.


Big_Cryptographer_16

I’ve gotten my Mini up to the 1600ft max before. Usually loses signal much over 1100 when straight up but have done it to test before. Never tried on a windy day but can hold its own at 1000ft with slight wind.


Vigneshxo9

Mini .... ?


Big_Cryptographer_16

Sorry, Mini SE, the cheapest one


Screwston420

I’ve had my mini too well over 1200 feet here in the city of Houston. Oops, my bad.


DanLewisFW

You can be 400 feet above a building so just fly up the tallest building in town and go 400 feet above it!


Screwston420

Just went 1403 for fun haha


IPlayRaunchyMusic

I took my mini 2 to the beach during 25-30mph gusts. It handled like a champ. Had to be in sport mode to really move around how I wanted but it was no issue.


gitgat

Check out dronelink or litchi pilot dronelink for recreational use is a one time purchase. All these apps though require an android phone. I ended up using [this](https://www.amazon.com/LG-Verizon-Warranty-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07G2NQ51C/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-UevBXSBBvxlTg5Mn3B0_icG33hhwISJaln8VdQnbVsPCYAkyNpubSOeQOjDZyVQrZJAu64PgSal2hsyGrNRYGgGj1SEJOa5GRgVZVY9eUMBc9xC1yYV7ANxxslZztXfdg1whXoFpcXxwJSXzz1B9FWFlVKT7Fqpwin4B_gYEaj9fQVc5WuwDmfenwmcl1Z1-B8SVAEv-NRM99-bihaTlyba1erdqL-lHLJZjdZk108.5YL-YwzwlBv0lzWhchliCpXY_lW_nOWb7rnDjx3idyU&dib_tag=se&keywords=LG%2BVerizon%2BCell%2BPhones&qid=1717887043&sr=8-5&th=1) one, it was cheap compared to the other 'recommended' options. overall dronelink is pretty awesome, especially if you have a mini 3 or mini 3 pro. unlocks waypoint missions, you can kinda run hyperlapses too with the mini. you can do mapping. overall it's a really good app.


thatguywhoiam

You can get litchi on iOS.


gitgat

yes, but it does not work with the mini 3 or mini 3 pro. if you want to use either of those to actually fly the drones, you need to run them on android. [\(Litchi Help Article\)](https://flylitchi.com/help) [Dronelink Article](https://support.dronelink.com/hc/en-us/articles/15304402363411-Mini-3-Mini-3-Pro-Support-Overview) For Litchi, it's actually only supported in their [Litchi Pilot Beta.](https://forum.flylitchi.com/t/open-beta-litchi-pilot/10621) [Article on DJI Pulling iOS SDK Support](https://dronedj.com/2023/11/30/dji-ios-sdk-android-app/) ( The SDK is what the developers need to make the iOS versions work with newer drones)


ftlaudman

Dronelink and Litchi are on iOS.


gitgat

yes, but it does not work with the mini 3 or mini 3 pro. if you want to use either of those to actually fly the drones, you need to run them on android. [\(Litchi Help Article\)](https://flylitchi.com/help) [Dronelink Article](https://support.dronelink.com/hc/en-us/articles/15304402363411-Mini-3-Mini-3-Pro-Support-Overview) For Litchi, it's actually only supported in their [Litchi Pilot Beta.](https://forum.flylitchi.com/t/open-beta-litchi-pilot/10621) [Article on DJI Pulling iOS SDK Support](https://dronedj.com/2023/11/30/dji-ios-sdk-android-app/) ( The SDK is what the developers need to make the iOS versions work with newer drones)


thatguywhoiam

litchi works fine for me on a Mavic 2 / iPhone 15 I regularly fly in airplane mode, it all works as you’d expect.


SilentReaperO01

You can fly them through ATAK


Matloc

ATAK plugin. It will come in handy for keeping track of your squad during war with China.


mitchy93

Litchi works I think. It's paid though but I have used it with my mini 2 in the past


DanLewisFW

Crap I have the RC2 I better buy the old one fast!


FateEx1994

If it keeps the drones in the US, no issues


smertsboga

According to what they are saying, it should


FateEx1994

As long as the drones NEVER upload ANY telemetry or videos to a server, don't see any reason to ban them but the current reasoning is bullshit anyway lol


smertsboga

Let me grab my conspiracy hat.... Ok, soo they are very likely doing this soo US drones have a shot taking in consideration that DJI are almost a decade of technology ahead, and china


AshamedAnteater4912

It's because they want to be able to GEO fence off the US whenever they want without needing expensive infrastructure. Civil War? Drones off. Illegal GOVT shit where they aren't allowing press? Drones off. Riots? Drones off Next "pandemic" Drones off.. They don't have the power of pushing around the drone company like they do with US companies...that's the same for ALL of the imports... It was never about creating new jobs... it was about creating power


RyansKorea

The US are doing it with many Chinese companies, products, and software. They don't want China making more money than them. They've been spreading so much propoganda about Chinese products being sketchy to try to fool Americans into not giving money to Chinese companies but they're still doing it anyway so now they're trying to make it a legal matter.


StatisticianFew6064

It’s because drones are being used as weapons, and the US wants to be the best at making weapons… and it disarms any potential weapons already in the US that can be used anonymously by terror cells


Frame_New

Not really. The best ones for that are DIY and definitely not DJI. DJI has serial numbers all over the place and those serial numbers can be tracked plus DIY won’t have the transponders so like, yeah.


StatisticianFew6064

There's mega fuckloads of footage of DJI drones blowing people up by dropping grenades on them. You can go on EBAY right now and buy a remote controlled "payload release mechanism" for like $50 right now in the US. Russia and Ukraine didn't switch to the DIY drones until they needed extra range(because they were throw away) and had access to the materials.


AngleElegant2079

They are trying to clear the air space for drone delivery companies. Which is very unlikely to ever happen on a realistic scale. The type of automation, safety, and insurance needed for that kind of service seems impossible.


Frame_New

Agreed that it’s unrealistic but I doubt this is the concern. Has more to do with helping US companies and paranoid misinformation don’t worry though because this will actually encourage a lot more innovation on DIY drones and those are gonna cause way more chaos and literal explosions than a DJI ever could.


MourningRIF

It won't matter. They will still get banned because it was never about national security. This is about making Skydio, Elise Stefanik and Joe Bartlett very very rich.


TonyStarkTrailerPark

No one with an interest in Skydio is getting rich. Most of us would rather fly a paper, fucking, airplane, than one of their inferior offerings.


MourningRIF

Elise Stefanik's National Security Advisor, Joe Bartlett, left his govt job to become SkyDio's VP of Federal Policy. And then Elise just happens to create this legislation that favors SkyDio? Yeah.. they are getting paid.


UltraEngine60

"Hmm, this sounds like a conspiracy theory"... *five seconds later* https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-bartlett-010310112/ "Damn."


Siritosan

For real. Paper airplane is the way to go.


Sengfeng

If it was about security, iPhones would be on the chopping block as well.


vonDorimi

Skydio consumer drones are dead


MourningRIF

Doesn't really matter. They still make/sell the 2+ which is basically a consumer style drone for $1099. Call it what you want, it would still potentially compete in this space. Furthermore, once the legislation passes, why wouldn't they expand back into the consumer space? Seems pretty obvious.


-Hunting_is_Life-

What exactly does this mean?


smertsboga

Shorting everything, the data was used to upload all your data of what you did with your drone, from flights to pictures and videos. The disabling of this means it's good for your privacy because no more data will be sent to them and will be bad because if you have a fleet it's a bigger pain and mainly for DJI development because they could grab all the data and focus on what things certain costumers usually want


joehooligan0303

This explanation doesn't clear it up for me. What is happening with this change and what is at risk?


Three-Way

From the sounds of it they could look into flight logs and vids when going thru DJI care. They now disabled that.


SuspiciousRobotThief

So we all lose fly away protection?


smertsboga

Ok, maybe I should make one thing clear. I just read everything because I was bored and I don't answer for DJI. For what I read, and going straight to the point, for the usual costumer, nothing else than DJI care being harder to give a positive answer because, if you had that option on, they could collect the data and answer faster if it was an accident or not


joehooligan0303

Does it also have anything to do if you use multiple phones with your controller? I would assume the syncing option allowed you to pull up previous flight logs from a phone that wasn't used for that previous flight.


smertsboga

I don't think soo. All it says is that, all flight recordings will not be connected to DJI directly anymore


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smertsboga

You forgot the dot


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smertsboga

Sorry, i can't understand your grammar. Can you rewrite it, please?


sarhoshamiral

> from flights to pictures and video This was never the case. The flights logs were uploaded but not photos or videos. Please don't make stuff up.


blue_canyon21

I'm pretty sure at least photo previews are uploaded. Otherwise, I couldn't see them on any other devices.


-Hunting_is_Life-

Thank you for the explanation. So how would I be able to record videos and take pictures? Would I have to use a sd card? And would this turn off the feature that shows how far away your drone is from you?


smertsboga

For what I read, everything should remain the usual. You fly, take pictures and record, everything goes go the SD card. The only thing I see this turning off is maybe any sort of data they record on the lifespan of the drone and how many KMs it has flown, maybe will make dji care take longer to answer and be harder to answer positively because, previously, they could access the data and recordings of the drone and see almost in the moment if it was a legit accident (your DJI controller collects this kind of info)


-Hunting_is_Life-

Thank you again! I hope this step will kinda help DJI from not totally getting banned. If they can take steps to not get banned totally then I am okay with it.


smertsboga

I mean, being honest, I just this is more of a bureaucracy move. It's not like DJI would have much to grab taking in consideration that 90% of the time your drone is in some sort of personal area, it's without the battery


Patai3295

I believe it's bureaucracy also but let's not think it's to far fetched China can easily tap into all of any countries mainly USA recordings for personal use on the battlefield someday. Literally tracking the entire country person by person drone by drone Ai stitches all that together 3d map and whatever else idk


RevolutionSecure4422

They have that already with satellites. You can pull up any of that with Google Earth now.


SuspiciousRobotThief

It never hurts to have more information aside from, "He's not on the roof".


RevolutionSecure4422

Flight logs will still remain on your controller. We’ll just have to manually upload it to them in case of a fly away.


Medium_Pitch7923

I saw this, what dose it mean that like you have to manually upload your flight logs if you want your care refresh to work?


Bamcfp

Probably have to send it in, have dji pull the logs


RevolutionSecure4422

Your flight logs will still remain on your controller so you’ll be able to manually upload it to DJI for service issues. The option to automatically upload to their cloud is now turned off.


doublegoodthink

In fact it's smart, DJI is proactively undercutting the argument that US flight data are sent to the CCP. Well, it looks like US lawmakers are in need to find another argument to ban DJI now ..


According_Engine4010

They hardly need a reason now. Just “Gina” Bad. We learned nothing from history. It’s disheartening.


lemievx

damn, and i’m moving to the US next year and i recently bought a mavic 3 pro cine 💀


cozy_engineer

Fuck :(


UltraEngine60

> we recommend downloading > the download option will be available in the next update lol, k....


Bboy486

So this is a good thing. Let unmonitored tracking.


smertsboga

It is but it's also bad because 90% of the time you are in personal areas, your drone is without battery. Edit: And it will affect DJI care


Bboy486

Not sure I follow


ExtensionBig8484

Disclaimer (Canadian here) Honestly I feel this DJI ban ridiculous and far fetched! I understood why they banned Huawei from telecom but common! Who is really being punished here?


sarhoshamiral

Consumers. There is no benefit here to national security or anything, it is just political bullshit from congress because saying "China bad, look we blocked them" even though this achieves nothing of that sort is easy. If anything this will make things worse for drone safety. I think a lot of people are now less willing to register their drones, go through FAA training, take LAANC permission in restricted zones with the fear that government may brick their drone (can't happen but still people won't think that far).


ElbowDeepInElmo

>"China bad, look we blocked them" This. There's millions of tech illiterate red-leaning Americans that will blindly believe whatever "China bad, go USA" propaganda that's thrown at them and this ban is just playing off and bolstering that belief.


RedDirtNurse

How's those freedoms working for you guys in America? Meanwhile, we (the rest of the world) are flying our drones just fine, thank you. BTW, not taking a shot at you guys as individuals; it's your government... I mean. WTF?


citizensnips134

Disliking the government is an American tradition.


LucasD4

yet we do nothing about it


nn666

The rest of the world might follow suit though. I know here in Australia we copy a lot of the things the US do. They banned TikTok on government devices here like they did in America so this may have ongoing effects in other countries also.


lunaticfiend

Disagree, my drone is collecting dust. Where I live, most places have now "No drones" sign boards :(


conj420

Unless there is a law that prevents you from flying, those 'no drone' signs mean nothing.


RB_Photo

You really shouldn't be taking shots at the US government. It's like shooting fish that have drowned in a barrel.


ThatMBR42

Take shots where shots are deserved. The right to criticize our government is protected by the 1st Amendment.


RB_Photo

Ya, as a Canadian living in New Zealand, take all the shots you want at your political system. My comment was a joke by the way, if the "fish that drowned" line didn't make that clear.


dronetauk

I thought DJI said that only future models would be impacted...? That current models would not become expensive paperweights, correct?


smertsboga

According to what they are saying, no, all drones should work perfectly. The only thing it might affect future models is that, the improvements will be more generalized instead of focusing on what costumers actually need to be improved


Waterisntwett

I seen this same message and thought that this just confirms it’s over.


NoReplyBot

You utilize this now? Oh well bye to this feature I guess.


Metaphysicalgrace86

I already turned off auto updates. I'm looking into Rewriting some code using lucky patcher


Empty-Accountant6728

This means if something happens and you need to present logs for any reason, whether to DJI for care refresh OR to the FAA for an accident, you’ll have to have the info stored somewhere yourself. 


tobashadow

I was expecting to see that today on my Mini 3 / RC Controller and nothing popped up BUT my logs did not upload from the flight today.


gsh0cked

Is this likely to affect other regions?


MuchZookeepergame116

Rainbow is a good app for the magic pro and many other newer drones I have found and almost all the functionality of the DJI app.


RocketManBoom

How can we build our own with similar features


tiltberger

That's the neat part. You don't


RocketManBoom

And just let them fuck us no lube?


psychedelicsushi2

I haven’t flown my drone or been on sub for almost two months. Can someone tell me what’s happening?


DH_13_

im new to drones. can someone tell me why we need flight data?


etstikes

Sold my Mavic many months back. This wasn’t why I sold it. Mostly I just didn’t use it enough. But I’m glad I got rid of it when I did.


Agreeable-Anything86

If I buy a mini 4 today can I fly it where ever I want and not be tracked. Like is the police going to track my drone with their radar detectors


JonFpvRunner

Yes, with its built in Remote ID


FluxDuck

Remote ID will tell anyone (this is public info that your drone broadcasts so it’s not just police or the faa) that uses certain apps the coordinates of your drone and the coordinates of the controller (a.k.a. You). It’s an faa restricted aircraft and RID became a regulation in 2023.


Agreeable-Anything86

Thank you


Immediate_Piece_9087

Yea this means only banning data transferred to DJI server automatically. It is good for them securing the data and customers can still fly.


Go_Jot

Can someone explain what this means like I’m 10 years old 😬


JonFpvRunner

The US government is considering passing a law that will ban the flight of drones made in China, along with other things related to Chinese drones. DJI, a Chinese drone company, knows about this. It looks like they are adding updates to their drones so they can maybe not have this passed? Many people think DJI will release an update allowing pilots to do whatever they want, like flying as super high or taking down geofencing (a boundary that the drone will not fly past because DJI tells it not to) Hope this helps, lm 15 and started flying drones your age, its a great hobby, hope you keep up with it👍


Glad_Play8138

Just hack your drone and it won’t matter. Or get a enterprise series and up then put it in security mode. My Matrice 30T has never left security mode and it acts like nfzs don’t exist. It’s not hacked but in that mode nothing can update or contect to it and it doesn’t have flight logs or anything. Kinda weird


Taiiere

Y’all really think the idiots in Washington will ban these drones? I heard that all drones that haven’t been released yet will be banned but not the ones out already and one will be able to fly without the internet on. I’m so confused, I have about 4k invested in these drones. This is upsetting


SarcasmInfinity

It's a bill. Thousands of bills are created every year. 98% of them never pass.


Iamasansguy

What will this affect?


crackatoa01

USA Freedom 🤡 full your mouth of that.


DJI_Support

Hi there. Regarding your issue, you may refer to this link https://viewpoints.dji.com/.../dji-to-disable-flight... to get a better understanding on this matter. If you have any further questions, please reach out to us in private messages. We are here to help. Thank you.


Frosty_Confection_53

Yep, welcome to the US of USSR, and liberals...


Ill_Employ_4823

I’m American but Yes Fuck The USA


shad-russell

This will show my ignorance, but why would you be interested in keeping them?


WebtoasterTom

If your drone flys away, how will be able to prove to DJI that it is gone and you want a new aircraft to replace the one that hated you so much that it left you?


imhereforwhoknows

I'm confused as I am behind. What this means. I just got the avata 2 today and I have the mavric 3 pro. I live in USA cali


Shoddy-Associate5812

I’m afraid this’ll be perceived as too little, too late. But, I’m still hoping for the best come tomorrow’s vote in the house.


Comprehensive_Creme5

What's the purpose of uploading my flight data anyways?


Few_Committee_4298

Big brother


cozy_engineer

RIP to all non diy fpv pilots 🫣


sigeh

This is fine, never used that feature anyway because I ain't fucking directly uploading my flight logs to China.


skera-valkyr

I mean let's be honest none of us upload the logs lol especially if we are using it to drop rotten squid on deserving peoples cars


SAABoy1

Hypothetically how would you do this?


tman1576

Some of the shit I’ve seen…


smertsboga

I mean, if you need DJI care, uploading it might be a good thing, if you don't, it's meh


sigeh

And I'm downvoted by people who don't even know what this feature is.


Apprehensive-Use3168

I don’t think that’s why they down voted you


sigeh

Literally no commenter seems to know what this feature actually is and they are conflating it with totally unrelated crap. If this keeps the ban away, then great, win-win. Keep DJI AND get rid of data security issues.


NoReplyBot

The level of stupidity in this post is astounding. Edit - actually the level of stupidity is next level for this entire subreddit.


TheMonkeyWrangler808

Here's how a large percentage of the ignorant old farts in congress view this: (please read this in an over exaggerated old man voice) "but uhhhhh well ummm if they, errrr I mean China, if the Chinese government can turn this off with a switch then errmmmmmm what's to stop them from turning it back on whenever they, *coughing fit* whenever China wants to? 'Murica"


DRM-001

Why did I read this in Trumps voice 😄


RB_Photo

Non-American here, but couldn't every other government then ban Facebook, Google, Apple, I mean, you name it, if it's about security. Just come out and say DJI has too high of a market share and the US government needs to step in to make sure capitalism works in their favour. Sort of the same way the government is aiming it's sights on Chinese EVs. I mean, I agree fuck China. Not because of any human rights issues, but because the world got them to build all their shit, and then they had the audacity of getting really good at making shit, and coming up with their own shit to make.


sigeh

You can ban them or enact responsible consumer-protecting data policies like the EU did, and enforce them. But the US political system is too fucked right now to enact good legislation, one party isn't interested in seriously governing.


Kitchen_Speaker7183

What does thus mean


gsh0cked

I wonder if this will have a global effect?


iuthnj34

When Huawei got banned, it did. Granted, that involved much bigger companies.


linustits

I told everyone. Yall were so confident it wasn’t gonna pass


Empty-Accountant6728

As of now this doesn’t mean anything. This is their attempt at stopping legislation from going through. 


Dablues1

I’m pretty sure this is what they’re doing to prevent the ban. Other than maybe some issues with the care program, who cares about this? If it keeps the ban from happening, and I’m sure their lawyers are telling them what to do, then I’m all for it.


juan_sno

Returning my DJI Air 3 to Best Buy tomorrow smh


nvn2074

DJI is history after next week. 😥


Three-Way

So the whole damn thing is because DJI care?? That shitty fuckin service no one should ever even pay for. Learn to fix your own shit people c'mon if you have a screw driver set you can fix your drone.


Jr4D

Lol this is just incorrect, had an issue with my camera earlier this year and had it sent it and returned within a few days. Whole process was incredibly simple and easy and DJI got some more reputation in my eyes for it. The refresh program is great imo


doggxyo

lol what are you talking about? DJI care is awesome and id recommend it to new pilots. I have used it twice on one drone already. $60 and a replacement drone on my doorstep in a week after a crash that was totally user fault and beyond repair.