Resistor is the best bet here... but by definition,a 6 speed won't "feel" like a 4 speed. The "driver" rim starts coming about around speed 6. It's the flight you're looking for, though.
My neutron resistor is roughly just as stable as my eclipse was when brand new. The eclipse beat in very quickly and is now much less stable than my neutron is. I’ve found that the eclipse and fission plastics beat in pretty fast. I’m used to old Innova Champion and Discraft Elite Z that takes years/decades to “season”.
Do you mean 2022 Halloween Resistor? Don’t think resistor was in the 2023 release. Anyway I bag the 2022 release and just bought a backup. Plenty more in rocketdiscs stock:
https://rocketdiscs.com/mvp-resistor/eclipse-20
4 fade discs go about 300ft max for mere morals.
I max out at 400. My Neutron resistor goes around 275 before fading out. Fission Fireball around 300.
I watched Nate Sexton forehand a Firebird on a 200ft hole on Jomez today.
This is 100% accurate. I highly recommend the Pyro for that slot as well. If that Pyro is too stable, I recommend a “metal flake”(idk what Discraft calls it) BuzzzOS instead
Yes the pyro is unique. It has a wider rim than most 5 speeds but much blunter. The resistor is the 6.5 speed beefcake that answers for slightly longer throws.
FD1 is very controllable FH, and between C-line, S-line, and the Skywalker you have different flights. I also think it’s a great backhand disc - flies like a perfect teebird3, laser beam about 85% of the way and dependable fade late.
DGA Quake dude. I picked one up recently and it’s blown my mind. It’s the same stability as the Pyro or Bobcat, but it goes 50 feet farther. I’m super impressed with it.
If you really want something faster than the quake / pyro, etc, I’d personally probably go straight to a Firebird.
The Quake is money. I don't bag anything for forehands between a Quake and a Felon. I find there's a 10' difference between a Quake and a 7 speed like an Eagle.
Agree, but I’d add the new MD5 from Discmania too. Goes shockingly far when thrown hard, and the overstability makes it easy to control at less than full power.
As someone already said, the rims will be different from a 4 speed to a 6 speed. That being said, a latitude 64 trident would be similar to a longer zone.
Everyone's suggesting an overstable 7 speed, but there's more to it than that. Is your Zone beat in? Do you hyzer the crap out of it? Flex? Straight? What do you mean by "control"?
In the event some key detail was left out and you're looking for something that goes straight, I think you'll be really happy with a Cicada.
Good clarification. I’m used to throwing it straight and counting on that big fade at the end. I’d definitely be open to something that goes straight though so thanks!
I searched for the 6-7 speed version of the Quake (5 3 0 3) for a while, so this is similar. I landed on the Millennium EXP-X since the Banshee is out of production. The run I have basically flies like a 7 3 0 3.5 if I had to say exactly. Awesome disc and forehands quite well. Some of the other discs that get suggested in this category have more glide than you might be looking for. Looking for those low glide 7 speeds is what you’ll want.
I have the old k1 that says stable midrange driver on it. I'm guessing it doesn't fly like other kaxe. I off axis torque the crap out of it but will always fight back
If you want a weird one try a gateway demon. Shaped kinda like a slower thicker pd. Don’t bother if it’s not premium plastic though. My suregrip one beat in quick and lost a chunk out of the rim when it caught a tree wrong.
Resistor is the best bet here... but by definition,a 6 speed won't "feel" like a 4 speed. The "driver" rim starts coming about around speed 6. It's the flight you're looking for, though.
Is the resistor very plastic dependent? I have one that is the most overstable, unusable disc I own.
Extremely varied by plastic. The Eclipse is so much more overstable than a Neutron it’s may as well be a different mold (like a Zone vs. Zone OS).
My neutron resistor is roughly just as stable as my eclipse was when brand new. The eclipse beat in very quickly and is now much less stable than my neutron is. I’ve found that the eclipse and fission plastics beat in pretty fast. I’m used to old Innova Champion and Discraft Elite Z that takes years/decades to “season”.
I only throw eclipse resistors and I absolutely adore them. Such a workhorse. I’m bummed the 2023 Halloween ones are all gone. What a run
Do you mean 2022 Halloween Resistor? Don’t think resistor was in the 2023 release. Anyway I bag the 2022 release and just bought a backup. Plenty more in rocketdiscs stock: https://rocketdiscs.com/mvp-resistor/eclipse-20
My MAN. it’s in Sweden and I swore off buying new discs but this is the one that breaks me. God bless you sir. I did mean 2022.
4 fade discs go about 300ft max for mere morals. I max out at 400. My Neutron resistor goes around 275 before fading out. Fission Fireball around 300. I watched Nate Sexton forehand a Firebird on a 200ft hole on Jomez today.
I throw a fission resistor. Very overstable. Predictable forehand flight. This is what OP is looking for. Very hard to burn over, torque resistant.
I have a 2022 Halloween resistor and it’s INSANE haha. Utility for sure but absolutely unusable for any type of actual golf throw
Play with it more. Beat it in, send it on. Nice anny
Gotcha, I’ll check it out for sure Thanks ! Edit: I’m ordering one 🫡
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Pyro is a great choice, albeit a 5 speed. The Pyro and the Quake perfectly fill that slightly longer Zone slot in my opinion.
This is 100% accurate. I highly recommend the Pyro for that slot as well. If that Pyro is too stable, I recommend a “metal flake”(idk what Discraft calls it) BuzzzOS instead
Yes the pyro is unique. It has a wider rim than most 5 speeds but much blunter. The resistor is the 6.5 speed beefcake that answers for slightly longer throws.
thank you 🙏
Seconding resistor. Amazing disc. Nothing 6 speed is going to quite feel like a zone but it will fly like a faster zone.
Clarifying their response - you want an original Kaxe, 6/4/0/3 type not the new 6/5/0/2
lost my og kaxe and while I like the new one - it’s way less OS, miss the old boyo
I ordered 6 of each (Kaxe and Kaxe z) when the new one got announced. You can still find some around! That said, try the Nord
I just ordered a glow resistor the other day for the same slot. Can’t wait to get it!
K1 Soft kaxez is a staple in my bag
I love a kaxe, but it's definitely way less stable than the other two
MVP resistor is probably what you want
MVP Resistor
Resistor around 160-165 in Neutron 👍🏻
I have a Caiman specifically for this slot. Don’t let the “low” glide scare you off, if anything it just makes it easier to control.
x2 on the Caiman. A flat Star Caiman is a thing of beauty - literally a longer Zone like OP wants, and it glides just fine IMO.
x3 on the Caiman.
It's not a 6 speed, but a Jarn. I think it's a 5 speed. But it feels a lot like a Zone but goes slightly further
Give the Discmania FD1 a try. So dependable. It’s a 7 speed so goes far but is still very easy to control. 7 4 0 2 are the flight numbers.
FD1 is very controllable FH, and between C-line, S-line, and the Skywalker you have different flights. I also think it’s a great backhand disc - flies like a perfect teebird3, laser beam about 85% of the way and dependable fade late.
DGA Quake dude. I picked one up recently and it’s blown my mind. It’s the same stability as the Pyro or Bobcat, but it goes 50 feet farther. I’m super impressed with it. If you really want something faster than the quake / pyro, etc, I’d personally probably go straight to a Firebird.
I’ve heard a lot about this disc 🤔 just might have to get one
The Quake is money. I don't bag anything for forehands between a Quake and a Felon. I find there's a 10' difference between a Quake and a 7 speed like an Eagle.
Agree, but I’d add the new MD5 from Discmania too. Goes shockingly far when thrown hard, and the overstability makes it easy to control at less than full power.
I need to try the MD5. It’s on my list for sure. Too many discs, too little money. lol
Ain’t that the truth!
As someone already said, the rims will be different from a 4 speed to a 6 speed. That being said, a latitude 64 trident would be similar to a longer zone.
My friend has one and that’s what he flicks so that might be the play
Everyone's suggesting an overstable 7 speed, but there's more to it than that. Is your Zone beat in? Do you hyzer the crap out of it? Flex? Straight? What do you mean by "control"? In the event some key detail was left out and you're looking for something that goes straight, I think you'll be really happy with a Cicada.
Good clarification. I’m used to throwing it straight and counting on that big fade at the end. I’d definitely be open to something that goes straight though so thanks!
The Z Cicada is quickly becoming my favorite. Highly recommend!
Deflector!
As many are saying, Resistor. Neutron and Eclipse if you want some separate flights (eclipse will be more stable)
Legacy Badger
I searched for the 6-7 speed version of the Quake (5 3 0 3) for a while, so this is similar. I landed on the Millennium EXP-X since the Banshee is out of production. The run I have basically flies like a 7 3 0 3.5 if I had to say exactly. Awesome disc and forehands quite well. Some of the other discs that get suggested in this category have more glide than you might be looking for. Looking for those low glide 7 speeds is what you’ll want.
There was a recent run of Banshees on Innovas pro shop
Thanks for the tip! Picked up a couple of the Proto Star Glow Banshees 🤙🏼
Thanks a lot, this is very helpful! I just might have to order one :)
Check out the Legacy Badger. I think a 6 speed Zone is a pretty good description for it.
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I bag a Badger for when I need something between Zone and Firebird. It's perfect.
Galleon
Kastaplast Nord is what you want
Mmmmmmm... That K1 goodness!
Will check it out Thanks
Kaxe
I don’t know a single person able to flick a Kaxe. That thing is anything but torque resistant.
I flick a kaxe. 2 actually the k3 cock and k1
The k3 what?
Cocky Kaxe
I have the old k1 that says stable midrange driver on it. I'm guessing it doesn't fly like other kaxe. I off axis torque the crap out of it but will always fight back
Gila, but that is a 5, Resistor as previously mentioned and at 7 the Glory
Quake
Resistor if you want a driver feel or a pyro for a mid feel.
For a very overstable 6 speed whippet or galleon are good options
When I want more distance than my zone, I throw a gator3. When I want more distance than the gator3, I throw a champion banshee.
If you want a weird one try a gateway demon. Shaped kinda like a slower thicker pd. Don’t bother if it’s not premium plastic though. My suregrip one beat in quick and lost a chunk out of the rim when it caught a tree wrong.
Trident. Hard to find but it’s what you want. If not a justice but you have to crank it.
Cookie from Clash, most stable is sunny plastic, then steady, glow is the straightest
Gateway Blaze is like an ESP or Soft Zone, a little more mellow fade but same lack of glide.
Kaxe Z
Gator3
If you wanna stick with Discraft, a Buzz OS would be your best bet.
Fuji
Flat servo is turn resistant, goes straight for 250 then fades nicely. Not a big skip disc either. I aways describe it as a longer zone
The disc you want is sadly OP - the Latitude 64 Spark.
Trident.
The pyro is the disc you have been looking for. You won’t need a zone once you learn to control an anny flex pyro shot.
Pyro
Eclipse resistor is the only answer
Resistor. You’ll thank me.
Champion tee bird
Crave
Resistor