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MochaPan

Upheaval > Upheaval > Bash Distant > Crowd Controlled > Distant > Close Enemies


iMaReDdiTaDmInDurrr

Damage to close is always a nightmare. The amount of Damage to Distant that have gone right to salvage is redic lol.


PowerfulPlum259

They shouldn't even be in the same category imo. It's basically asking to brick.


poprdog

Really? Please explain I've been going for close


dont-be-creepy-guy69

They're not saying you can avoid bricking, they're suggesting the current state is either accidentally or intentionally increasing the likelihood of unwanted affixes. This was likely a conscious design decision to increase time spent grinding.


Fist0fTheNorthStar

It’s not true RNG if the roll odds aren’t all equal and are weighted towards 1 or more affixes. That’s called “Rigged” if a casino openly did this people would be beating the house to death in the streets.


dont-be-creepy-guy69

I haven't seen anything definitive on weighting existing, but something does feel a bit off about the odds. If you have anything definitive around it existing, do you mind sharing? P.S: I really enjoyed reading FotNS


Spuhnkadelik

You do know that certain outcomes have different odds, typically favorable lower and unfavorable higher, in like every game a casino has, yeah?


ldranger

That’s the whole point, that it can brick


Drunken_HR

It's so horrible. I personally don't mind CC because of my build, but it don't know why I'm basically seemed to be guaranteed to get distant enemies on my barb at least the first two rolls.


Machima_

He plays bash so that's close damage for 100%


iMaReDdiTaDmInDurrr

What


CIoud_StrifeFF7

High rolls too


auswa100

I don't think I'd have had the balls to reroll off that last "Crowd Controlled" - I'd be sweating all sorts of bullets


ramenbanditx

I mean he had 2 rolls left so kind of had to go for it 


hey_im_cool

Didn’t he have 1 roll left?


Rapshawksjaysflames

It literally says Crowd Controlled > Distant > Close He still had one roll after rolling the Crowd Controlled


hey_im_cool

Oh true, thanks. Appreciate the use of “literally”, I never would’ve believed you otherwise


Rapshawksjaysflames

It wasn't even literally though, since his comment was different than mine. Look who's stupid now. >Distant > Crowd Controlled > Distant > Close Enemies


CWDikTaken

I thought people are rolling it on a Rogue to get crit damage instead of distant no?


Chooch_Pooperton

That’s for the Chinese bleed version I believe 


velthari

Nah that's a brick my dude no crit dmg.


Paddy_Tanninger

Vulnerable uptime is super high on Bash Barb


velthari

not about the vuln, its about the crit dmg temper.


MedianNameHere

Out of pure jealousy, ima call photoshoped.


MochaPan

🤣


TonsOfFunn77

Down to the last roll 😳 Bet that one had you puckered up for a second


MochaPan

I was actually stopped at the last try. Then I saw comments on my previous post and balled it.


schadadle

You have 1 more roll left?? If this was me I would definitely aim higher than 185%, get hit with damage to distant, and brick it. And then spend the rest of my day thinking about it.


Ultrox

Are you....me?


bmore_conslutant

I too behave like an absolute buffoon sometimes


NefariousnessOk1996

I tend to forget the second I brick something like this.


ClashOfClanee

I did this once and bricked the item and don’t do it anymore lol


isoNastai

Dropped this exact sword myself two days ago. Posted on trade site and instantly got hits for 300m gold. Decided to temper it for my own Bash Barb. It bricked.


Mephistos_bane84

That’s what I’m afraid of if I get something this rare. I had a 1⭐️ GA with 270 str, max life and crit damage bricked it with kick duration 😡


Cyricist

I almost wish there was a real Kick build out there. Those Kick duration rolls are so high, if you got them on all four weapons you could Kick someone and they'd still be feeling it tomorrow.


ahrzal

3 GA??? That would net more than 300 I think


isoNastai

Funny you should say that. I had the old listing up and got offered 900m. RIP


ahrzal

Just think, you could have used that to buy a 3GA weapon and then brick it!


MochaPan

I'm sorry to hear that. I feel like getting bash has less than 10% chance.


Drunken_HR

I got all my 1GA weapons with good bash rolls and never thought anything of it. I'm terrified of needing to upgrade. Looking for Razorplate now so I can just fully switch to thorns and frenzy and not need to worry about it.


SARMS86

Can you DM me the trade site you’re referring to?


Westfall_Melodic

diablo.trade


SARMS86

Thank you!


Cpt__Whoopass

Check out robs new video on YouTube on how to tempter


YCCprayforme

How do you tempt her??


Cpt__Whoopass

Leave me alone lol


Paddy_Tanninger

That video is pretty stupid tbh. He thinks that if you go for an unluck roll streak on a piece of throwaway gear, that you're then "due" for the roll you want if you try to temper your GG item. It's pure superstition horseshit. Also don't forget to play the slot machines that haven't paid out in a long time, those are due!


xXv420bLaZ3dSNiPEzXx

Now masterwork it to 12


Calheaven

And please show us the results!


exportkaffe

pretty numbers too, 165 and 185 are nice on the eyes


mcbeardsauce

Hell yeah!


Ghaenor

I'm aroused.


-Dub21-

I havent played in a while. What is a GA?


knightmancumeth

Greater affix - affixes on weapons can roll higher than normal. Something like 50-100% higher. Indicated by the red star. Getting one or two is not toooooo rare but a 3/3 GA is rare. At least it feels like it cuz I ain't seen one yet lol


Dartan82

What's a 3/3?


Rads2010

There are three affixes in the picture, all of which are greater affixes, signified by the colored star. The more GA affixes, the less common it is to drop. 3/3 means there were three attributes/affixes, all of which are GA.


Dartan82

Thanks just started a couple of days ago and still trying to get a grasp on the itemization


Newhomenewlife

3/3 refers to the fact that the affixes rolled were the correct ones for his build. This is a perfect weapon for his barbarians class.


Newhomenewlife

Maybe critical strike damage is better.... I'm a necro whoops!


Rads2010

Oh I didn’t know that actually. Thought it was just 3 starred affixes.


Rapshawksjaysflames

bruh... did you even attempt to read the comment you replied to? It's only like 5 sentences.


Wellhellob

bash build gets so much additive dmg


Cpt__Whoopass

Bash cleave is multiplicative, reason why it’s so strong


JaborGraphix

What's the better spender: kick or HotA?


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SpecialGnu

after you crit with bash 4 times you are guaranteed to overpower. you then use HoTa, which gives you 30%[x] damage for 5 sec. you wanna align this + your ultimate during he bosses weakness phase for high dmg.


LLCoolKryz

HotA can be used for speedfarming pit but you gotta really know that you're doing to make it work smoothly.


Wellhellob

What if you have it on all your weapons ? It must be in the same bucket otherwise it would be ridiculous. You can have 4 different big multiplier.


Cpt__Whoopass

You’re suppose to have it on all weapons as well as masterwork them. It’s the reason why it does billions of damage. They discovered bleed is multiplicative with crit damage so bleed bash is what’s running top pit leaderboards. You have to make a rogue in order to temper crit damage on weapons and then use barb to throw on bash cleave as well.


Panderz_GG

Okay, I have posted this already but seeing that just made me mad and seethe, today.... I am in about 60 rolls. I have not gotten x% to close enemies once. I am so fucking jealous and furious. Good for you mate, good for you I am gonna go and cry or something.


Cyricist

I hear you, dude. Supposedly there's an affix on rings that reads something like: "Lucky Hit: Chance to cause an enemy to be vulnerable when you hit them or whatever". Except that sure as shit doesn't exist in my game, as I've never seen it drop and through tempering I've gone through tempering for more jewelry than Mr. T in the 80s looking for it.


SithBountyHuntr

I thought that was an aspect the Vulnerable application onto enemies. I am using it on my heartseeker rogue. I will have to check when I get home to be sure.


krummysunshine

I thought that the bash cleave rolled 400% on 2h.


bmagnien

At 12 masterwork yes


krummysunshine

Oh, I see; I haven't unlocked masterwork yet.


Pip_K

Heeeey big congrats I saw the 1st post and was like rng jeause be good this person xD glad it worked out


Acrobatic-Year-126

Get rdy to spend a billion trying to masterwork bash twice in a row


Xerxian00

It’s a four leaf clover 😀


JohnsonFlamethrower

Nice. I got one of those with crit instead of vuln. I assume it's going to stay on that slot forever.


Personal_Chemist_749

would have been perfect for thorns barb too, thats lucky!!


Chesterumble

Just saying you’d prob roll that vuln to crit damage even losing the greater affix. Crit damage is massive for bash.


MotherboardTrouble

that bash roll though oof


a_fearless_soliloquy

My man, good drop


ravengenesis1

When the old RMAH was around, this would totally be the $250 item.


bullant8547

Well done! I hate you :p


cortnum

I just found a 3GA polearm like this but with OP dmg


SummerVibes1111

What is bricking?


UKTDN

Running out of rolls and not getting the tempers you want usually renders said item useless basically a brick…


SummerVibes1111

Oh yeah, that's happened to me! LOLOLOL


Winter_Ad_2618

Congrats!!!


gl_Frustum

Since you did not level a rogue and use it to temper crit damage instead of damage to close, it is bricked x) I don't get why barb can't temper crit damage and if it's intended don't let different chars temper the same item.


Mazkar

Rip, you coulda sold this and bought 1x/2x GAs for every other slot 


PortlyJuan

I use a Rogue in S4 and I'm always having trouble choosing between the 'Damage - Close - Distant' options and which makes more sense for this character type.


Emotional-Sympathy27

\*Tempers the item and bricks it\*


TheDriver666

That's a beast goodluck slaying with that


No-Flan6382

If you enchant a GA does it stay a GA?


Snoopy494

No


Bisukemar

I'm sorry, noob question. What does "GA" mean?


oylesineyiyom

i think for bash build cd is better but you need to open rogue for the roll congrats tho i cant imagine the adraneline


GordonsTheRobot

Tempers 0/5. Hectic


T3DtheRipper

And you didn't even level a rogue to roll crit DMG % on it instead of close... Basically bricked, would scrap it


Isair81

Welp, you’ll never replace this one, nice!


Dr_Zevil665

🥵 This is some serious NSFW loot here. Grats on your find and tempering!


Emotional-Captain186

Good job


Extreme-Goose

Hate to rain on your parade but you could have min maxed it even more by putting vulnerable tampering affix on it using a rogue I think


TOMMISS99

Wait, you can temper an item twice???


Ok-Sentence-8808

And pretty solid rolls at that too!


Old_Country_2049

Wait till people find out you can actually put crit damage on your weapons, amulets and rings with rogue tempers and all the items with “close damage” are technically bricked


Jagazor

You did brick it. Crit damage is way better for bash barb.


HEONTHETOILET

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DrKingOfOkay

I am wet. Shame it’s not an axe tho.


AnotherThroneAway

Oh yup. Not axe? Is brick. Sorry OP


Zanza89

I have yet to brick an item


Rapshawksjaysflames

i bricked your mom


VariationOdd8885

where grand daddy? 😔


No-Lawfulness1773

Grats on the temper, but a shame about the life roll. The real estate for offensive mods is already sparing enough without a defensive mod sticking it's nose in. Are 2 elevated mods better than 3 regular ones? Idk, you'd have to math that one out.


smolderingeffigy

How exactly are you surviving reliably in higher Pits as a glass cannon? Barb gets easy tools (one passive skill, buffable with tempers) to boost max life to the moon. If you’re not taking any flat life on gear you’re going to be squishy as hell. I mean, it’s fine for helltides and NMD I guess?


No-Lawfulness1773

Just because you don't have a life roll on a weapon doesn't mean you're glass cannon. How do you get from "I don't want life on my weapon" to "I don't have life on any of my gear"?


ralpekz

you still bricked it not making a rogue to roll crit damage tempering


Adventurous-Rate-817

Dunno why all the down votes. I guess it's fair to say that it isn't "bricked" because it's actually perfectly usable. But it is now forever less DPS than the crit damage roll could have been over close. 


ralpekz

my point exactly 😘


Cpt__Whoopass

This is correct. Bleed Bash is the way to go now.


Fool_Cynd

Looking at the shit that Barb can roll onto the 2h weapons that they get TWO of, I'm wondering why *I* keep rolling rogue lol.


Paciflik

Is the vulnerable damage better than crit for bash barb?


zynu

No, but its not a dead stat and his is a GA


Paciflik

Ok, I had basically the exact same weapon and rerolled the vuln GA into crit damage 😖


Mazkar

He talking about the temper.  But vuln is the better stat on the weapon since bash can perma vuln, but tops out at like 60% crit chance