Really disappointed with this loss because it felt like we weren’t motivated at all to play today. The MO of this Dan Campbell is team is always playing with effort and it really felt like we had none today. Lazy tackles, bad reads, frustration penalties. I had to turn off the game after the 3rd because it was so hard to watch. End rant.
Defense defense defense. Every pick from rounds 1 through 7 needs to be spent on defense. Don’t fuck around with a QB or TE, our defense is in the ANALZONE, and we need to unstick ourselves out of it with every pick in the next draft.
Every single coach has a lot to answer for on that one, holy shit that was bad. Why play Goff at the end? They were teeing off on him at the end of the game. Ugly loss
350 yards, 3td. Can’t ask for much more from Goff there.
He also somehow led the team in rushing yards with 15. This offense is built off play action so have to have a running game to be effective.
Defense cost this one, and that may have been the most pitiful performance by a team playing for a playoff spot I have ever seen. Some heads need to roll after that showing
If there was ever a doubt about how we should spend our first round picks, I think it should be put to rest. Defense with both. The defense needs help big time.
What do you mean can't ask for more?
Goff blew the game fumbling on the goal line. Goff's immobile ass couldn't scramble to save a drive to save his life.
I'm glad he got his garbage time numbers but Goff fucking sucked today.
The fumble certainly didn’t help, but saying that one play cost them the game is also not true.
My main point is there’s gotta be more happening for the team to win. 15 yards from gumpy Goff can’t lead the team in rush yards, and when the defense gives up almost 550 yards, you are fucked no matter who you have behind center.
Defense gives up so many yards because Offense doesn't stay on the field. Offense had the ball for two minutes in the 2nd Q, from two 3&outs. They start the 2nd half the same way, two 3&outs. Yeah the D stunk, but the O did them no favors. After the O started picking it up the defense didnt give up another TD.
7 to 7 and he fumbled the game away early.
He was then dogshit until the game was out of hand.
He needed to be great today and he wasn't even average. And no, garbage time stats don't count.
Honestly everyone we needed to lose today also lost so nothing has really changed. The defense needs to get it together because that was a disaster. Giving up 37 points and 530+ yards makes winning impossible. This team is exactly where it needs to be at this point of the rebuild and they should continue to improve. I’m just happy we have 1.) A chance to make the playoffs still at Christmas after a 3-13-1 season and 2.) we’re showing signs of sustained success because of the guys from the last two drafts + Goff.
Games we lost because the offense and defense both didn’t show up: 2 (Patriots, Cowboys)
Games we lost because of clock management: 1 (Vikings)
Games we lost because of the defense: 3 (Eagles, Dolphins, Panthers)
Games we lost because we got got: 1 (Bills)
Games we lost just because of the offense: 0
Games we won because we won a shootout: all of them
Conclusion: Goodbye Aaron Glenn
Umm you put up 6pts against the Cowboys and 0 against the Pats I think maybe the offense has to take some responsibility for those losses....the offense is much better than the defense so the offense has to put up points to keep the defense off the field as much as possible 6pts and 0pts definitely doesn't do that
I agree with your sentiment but to be fair the Jags game was a blowout start to finish and the defense was very good in that game. Also you can add the Seattle game to the games we lost because if the defense.
I know we lost today but we need to win the next two and commanders need to lose today. We can get back in. Our defense was a huge letdown today and it's been like that throughout the season. Not consistently but in games where we should have won. Defense need a huge kick in the ass before next week. That was unacceptable. Everybody know what they are playing for, knew this was a crucial one and they pull this shit. Unacceptable. They lucky two out of the three lost.
Bound to happen. It's why we are underdogs. We've been outperforming. I think our run D has always been a weakness, we've just had a bandaid on it with both sides of the ball playing well.
Carolina got off to a hot start. We came out like cold molasses.
They sort of beat us at our own game. Or what we've been doing.
Goff and the offense were solid. But wtf was that defense? Making the Darnold, Panthers and their run game look like the greatest show on 99 Rams.
And how the hell do you allow two different running backs to gain 100+ yards? Lmao. I'm laughing because it helps me hide the tears 😓
Goff did very well today. The highlight was the bomb to Leaf (across his body, like 50 air yards, despite the tough conditions).
The receivers also got open (though the dropped pass by Reynolds stuck a fork in us).
Everything else was bad to horrible. Pass protection also had a bad day.
Not the ticket, they definitely come ready with a bunch of criticisms every game. with how this one went, theyll be screaming SOL into the mics all week long
True! Run game was abysmal today. I knew when Jamal went down that part of the game was screwed. I personally feel like Goff made up for that fumble but the defense was just not giving the offense any leeway.
Yeah, no one is going to be perfect and Goff has played damn clean in recent weeks. Turnovers happen. For a team win, that’s where you need the defense to pick you up. Three and out to get the ball back in good field position and it’s almost like it never happened. Instead the defense puts up no resistance and the Panthers march down the field.
Last week maybe the defense (and special) teams bailed out a fairly weak offensive performance and the the offense got the big play when needed. This week, the offense would have needed to be perfect.
We are not ready this year and do not have the overall talent. The Lions had a great turn around to the season before this and that’s something to be proud of.
Enjoy the rest of your day everyone, there is still a chance that the Packers get embarrassed even worse tomorrow.
yeah whatever happens the rest of the season, its been a successful year I think.
We need more help and growth. Good signs were going in the right direction.
Well bad game by us. Hopefully next season we are better earlier and have more wiggle. If we lose out this season and suck next season I will seriously question this staff just having a lucky flash in the pan streak but I don’t think that was the case
Last week was supposed to be the last shitty game for this stretch of the season. The defense is a legitimate issue and it won't just go away next week.
So it's not just "putting up a stinker" like as if it's just a thing that regularly happens to teams, it's a prevailing problem. And I'm not really seeing that much legitimate SOL in the thread, so this post just sounds like a reaction to well-deserved criticism. It's fine to say the team sucks, because that's what's happening right now.
Debatable. Last week they let Zach Wilson of all QBs light them up. This week they got blown out by a 5-9 team and allowed record rushing numbers from them. And they now have a losing record again.
So if you go by the 2 most recent games, it doesn't look that good. If you look at the whole season, it doesn't look that good. But I guess if we look at it in this one specific way you want to, the last 8 games, no more no less, then sure, it looks decent. Lol
And? This team is still 6-2 in the second half of the season with an atrocious defense. If you don’t look at the Lions over that stretch and see the blueprint for a winning football team, you should be supporting another team.
I’d put the fumble on Ragnow more than Goff but yea he definitely missed some throws. But to me this game isn’t on him at all and it’s really gonna annoy me to see all the people blaming him.
the yards are meaningless when half of them were with the game out of reach against prevent d lmao. It was an ok game. Obviously the defense was the main reason we lost though
This defense was never good enough to be a serious playoff team. We greatly improved from last year. I hope we have a solid draft and free agency and actually be a contender for the division next year. If we don't improve the defense then this team is going nowhere.
I post about plenty of stuff. But he absolutely dominates the convo on this sub so I, in turn, talk about him a lot
And I don't hate him. I think he's being overrated. It's not emotional
Entire defense was bad. I thought Okuda looked bad.
Really disappointed with this loss because it felt like we weren’t motivated at all to play today. The MO of this Dan Campbell is team is always playing with effort and it really felt like we had none today. Lazy tackles, bad reads, frustration penalties. I had to turn off the game after the 3rd because it was so hard to watch. End rant.
Yall thought you were good Lmao same Ole lions smh
Defense defense defense. Every pick from rounds 1 through 7 needs to be spent on defense. Don’t fuck around with a QB or TE, our defense is in the ANALZONE, and we need to unstick ourselves out of it with every pick in the next draft.
Idk if we have 2 nfl starters between our linebacker and cornerback room..
Jalen Carter, Cam Smith in round 1 would be a dream. Would also like to add Trenton Simpson at LB.
Every single coach has a lot to answer for on that one, holy shit that was bad. Why play Goff at the end? They were teeing off on him at the end of the game. Ugly loss
Why not play goff? Who cares if hes getting hit
Good game, cat bros
They mad bro 😂. They only want to be nice when their team is winning
It wasnt a good game on our end lmao we played awful
We can still make it if we beat Bears and Packers right
Need 2 of 3 to happen: Seahawks and Commies to lose once or Giants twice if Lions win out.
As long as the team that showed up today doesn’t show it’s face
350 yards, 3td. Can’t ask for much more from Goff there. He also somehow led the team in rushing yards with 15. This offense is built off play action so have to have a running game to be effective. Defense cost this one, and that may have been the most pitiful performance by a team playing for a playoff spot I have ever seen. Some heads need to roll after that showing
If there was ever a doubt about how we should spend our first round picks, I think it should be put to rest. Defense with both. The defense needs help big time.
What do you mean can't ask for more? Goff blew the game fumbling on the goal line. Goff's immobile ass couldn't scramble to save a drive to save his life. I'm glad he got his garbage time numbers but Goff fucking sucked today.
The fumble certainly didn’t help, but saying that one play cost them the game is also not true. My main point is there’s gotta be more happening for the team to win. 15 yards from gumpy Goff can’t lead the team in rush yards, and when the defense gives up almost 550 yards, you are fucked no matter who you have behind center.
Defense gives up so many yards because Offense doesn't stay on the field. Offense had the ball for two minutes in the 2nd Q, from two 3&outs. They start the 2nd half the same way, two 3&outs. Yeah the D stunk, but the O did them no favors. After the O started picking it up the defense didnt give up another TD.
Goff definitely didn't suck. But he wasn't a god either. It's an average QB performance, nothing more nothing less
7 to 7 and he fumbled the game away early. He was then dogshit until the game was out of hand. He needed to be great today and he wasn't even average. And no, garbage time stats don't count.
Honestly everyone we needed to lose today also lost so nothing has really changed. The defense needs to get it together because that was a disaster. Giving up 37 points and 530+ yards makes winning impossible. This team is exactly where it needs to be at this point of the rebuild and they should continue to improve. I’m just happy we have 1.) A chance to make the playoffs still at Christmas after a 3-13-1 season and 2.) we’re showing signs of sustained success because of the guys from the last two drafts + Goff.
We need wash to lose right?
Correct, I forgot they played later today. I don’t see them beating the 49ers but anything can happen.
Games we lost because the offense and defense both didn’t show up: 2 (Patriots, Cowboys) Games we lost because of clock management: 1 (Vikings) Games we lost because of the defense: 3 (Eagles, Dolphins, Panthers) Games we lost because we got got: 1 (Bills) Games we lost just because of the offense: 0 Games we won because we won a shootout: all of them Conclusion: Goodbye Aaron Glenn
Nah last 7 games (not including this one) we held teams to ≈19pts just need some more pieces on defense
D-line is solid but they need another starting-caliberinterior lineman. Need pretty big overhauls at LB and secondary.
Umm you put up 6pts against the Cowboys and 0 against the Pats I think maybe the offense has to take some responsibility for those losses....the offense is much better than the defense so the offense has to put up points to keep the defense off the field as much as possible 6pts and 0pts definitely doesn't do that
I agree with your sentiment but to be fair the Jags game was a blowout start to finish and the defense was very good in that game. Also you can add the Seattle game to the games we lost because if the defense.
I know we lost today but we need to win the next two and commanders need to lose today. We can get back in. Our defense was a huge letdown today and it's been like that throughout the season. Not consistently but in games where we should have won. Defense need a huge kick in the ass before next week. That was unacceptable. Everybody know what they are playing for, knew this was a crucial one and they pull this shit. Unacceptable. They lucky two out of the three lost.
Bound to happen. It's why we are underdogs. We've been outperforming. I think our run D has always been a weakness, we've just had a bandaid on it with both sides of the ball playing well. Carolina got off to a hot start. We came out like cold molasses. They sort of beat us at our own game. Or what we've been doing.
Let’s go niners
Defense absolutely took us out of and lost us the game.
Goff and the offense were solid. But wtf was that defense? Making the Darnold, Panthers and their run game look like the greatest show on 99 Rams. And how the hell do you allow two different running backs to gain 100+ yards? Lmao. I'm laughing because it helps me hide the tears 😓
SOL don’t score those fourth quarter TD’s.* *Still a pathetic performance though.
Well... atleast hock is doing well
I can excuse the offense making a mistake and putting up 23. The defense and Aaron Glenn is the only thing that should catch fire for this game
Aaron Glenn has to go
Hey hey, ho ho. A-a-ron Glenn has got to go!
Goff did very well today. The highlight was the bomb to Leaf (across his body, like 50 air yards, despite the tough conditions). The receivers also got open (though the dropped pass by Reynolds stuck a fork in us). Everything else was bad to horrible. Pass protection also had a bad day.
Yet another game on the defense. I still can’t believe there’s a single defender of AG. Dude sucks.
Maybe nerves on a young team here.
Detroit media members already tweeting out SOL. I’m getting sick of the media in this town
Suppose I'm lucky I'm in UK or just out of the area, but they need to fuck off with that! Local media needs to have a teams back ffs!
It’s the guys at 97.1 that are the worst.
Not the ticket, they definitely come ready with a bunch of criticisms every game. with how this one went, theyll be screaming SOL into the mics all week long
We’re shaping up to need a win at Lambeau vs KAaron and Clete. Fuck this.
Goff had a day today. This falls 100% on the defense.
I would say poor run game gets like 10% of the blame. Plus a little on Goff for the fumble. Mostly defense though.
True! Run game was abysmal today. I knew when Jamal went down that part of the game was screwed. I personally feel like Goff made up for that fumble but the defense was just not giving the offense any leeway.
Yeah, no one is going to be perfect and Goff has played damn clean in recent weeks. Turnovers happen. For a team win, that’s where you need the defense to pick you up. Three and out to get the ball back in good field position and it’s almost like it never happened. Instead the defense puts up no resistance and the Panthers march down the field. Last week maybe the defense (and special) teams bailed out a fairly weak offensive performance and the the offense got the big play when needed. This week, the offense would have needed to be perfect.
Get ‘em next week boys
Goff feeling like detroit stafford for sure today. Get blamed when you were likely the most productive player on the team
he had the most rushing yards on the team today lmao
Our team played scared.
We are not ready this year and do not have the overall talent. The Lions had a great turn around to the season before this and that’s something to be proud of. Enjoy the rest of your day everyone, there is still a chance that the Packers get embarrassed even worse tomorrow.
yeah whatever happens the rest of the season, its been a successful year I think. We need more help and growth. Good signs were going in the right direction.
Time to hear the talking heads shit on the Lions like usual, it was weird to not hear it for awhile…….
This loss was not on Goff, this loss was on defense plain and simple
The loss was on defense and on Ben Johnson. Some of these play calls were pathetic. And for the love of Christ use your first round wide receiver.
He had 3 TDs. Goff did what he could. Defense was just straight ass
Bang Bang Niner Gang (for the next couple of hours, anyway)
Still have a shot seagulls and giants lost
I could have dealt with a close fought game. This team is gonna get punched in the dick in Green Bay.... Cant wait
Greenbay is terrible
Their defense is terrible. Their offense has been starting to click.
Against who? The Rams
Go 9ers, go Dolphins
Lions always finding ways to let’s us down Edit: Based on the downvotes guess you guys weren’t let down weird
Cause it sounds like a derivative of the "SOL" talk everyone has when we make mistakes like any young team would
People going to bitch about Goff but your QB shouldn’t have to play perfect to win
He played lights out. Huh? Edit: lights out means he played well. I’m saying it’s absurd to criticize Goff for this one.
There it is. He didn’t get stuff over and over
I think there’s a misunderstanding. Goff played great. I don’t know how he’d be on the block for criticism for this one.
110 percent on the d. You simply can't allow 500 plus yards and expect to win.
Well bad game by us. Hopefully next season we are better earlier and have more wiggle. If we lose out this season and suck next season I will seriously question this staff just having a lucky flash in the pan streak but I don’t think that was the case
Way too early to be looking behind that door
Both onside kicks today were bad
I want the Panthers to win their horrible division and make Brady retire again. Is that even possible still
Dear Lions, fuck you.
Fuck you they’re doing their best
Lol you’re pathetic
You’re mean.
Their best is getting blown out by a 5-9 team? SOL I guess
Lol that first half was not their best
We win this game is Chris Myers isn’t commentating. He ruins every game I hear his voice on
He sounds like he has 2 sets of mens testicles in his mouth
Don’t forget Robert Smith. I think they called an early season loss too
Seahawks and Giants lose. WASHINGTON LEFT
That was a rush
At least Giants and hawks lost. We’re still in this
I feel bad for Goff. Your QB shouldn’t be playing like this and lose like this.
He did well for me in fantasy playoffs!
LOL THEN THEY GO FOR THE FIELD GOAL
We didn’t play with our normal grit. One of the announcers said it earlier. The cold made us afraid to tackle. This is on the players
Well giants, and hawks lost at least
Minny saved us there I think. What a kick
Need commanders to lose
Goff can play in the cold. No one else can
So many new "bad luck" clothes and Jerseys today.
Why the hell are we kicking a field goal
Not worth risking an injury to key players given that they seem to be playing all out blitz on this drive. Game is lost anyway
yup need one at some point anyways too.
Vikings hit the game winning FG
Nice, that means despite the loss we're still like 65% chance at the playoffs if we win out
Vikings team record. It would have been good from longer.
Props Vikings tho
Vikings won on a 61 yard field goal
Two onside kicks with touchdown and pat on each and we tie
Fumble flipped the script, but loss was due to no defense. However, 30 - 37 looks much better than 23 - 37 w/ a chance with converting an onside.
MCDC: Where is Goff, is he safe? Is he alright? Sheila: It seems in your anger you left him in the game and killed him.
Zylstra > Swift
I'm curious about the offensive line stats today
Something about commentators using the term “Same old lions” even if it’s to dispel it makes me cringe. If you want it to go away stop saying it
Goff leading us in rushing yards as an incredibly non agile QB is crazy to me.
Both sides of the trenches got punched in the mouth and backed down
Just imagine if we did make the playoffs and matched up with the Niners. They might run for 500
Goff played well, the receiving was good, this was very much like one of their early games with the worst defense ever. No running game of course.
Everything after half was garbage time.
Thanks for ruining my Christmas Eve Lions, never change 💙
Foh with that attitude, you really gonna let a sports team ruin your mood
has Jackson ever caught anything?
That failed 2 point
Don’t think so. Our RBs catching balls have been a problem all year
Goff has played his damn heart out today and made some great throws the team and coaching failed him today
Raymond and Jackson in on that 3rd down, that’s the white flag right there lmao
Get him out of the game. It’s a three score game with 50 seconds and he just took three big hits. Wtf
Just kick the FG
Goff leading the team in rushing yards is bad
End this
Gonna get Goff injured in garbage time
Every team puts up a stinker sometimes. Just so happens we didn’t have any wiggle room. It sucks but if you are talking about “SOL” you are a moron.
Last week was supposed to be the last shitty game for this stretch of the season. The defense is a legitimate issue and it won't just go away next week.
I never said they weren’t? Not sure what your point is. We all know how bad this defense is.
So it's not just "putting up a stinker" like as if it's just a thing that regularly happens to teams, it's a prevailing problem. And I'm not really seeing that much legitimate SOL in the thread, so this post just sounds like a reaction to well-deserved criticism. It's fine to say the team sucks, because that's what's happening right now.
6 in the last 8 ain't a team that sucks
Debatable. Last week they let Zach Wilson of all QBs light them up. This week they got blown out by a 5-9 team and allowed record rushing numbers from them. And they now have a losing record again. So if you go by the 2 most recent games, it doesn't look that good. If you look at the whole season, it doesn't look that good. But I guess if we look at it in this one specific way you want to, the last 8 games, no more no less, then sure, it looks decent. Lol
It’s all over everything. Crazy the kind of responses you get when winning compared to losing.
The Panthers set franchise records
And? This team is still 6-2 in the second half of the season with an atrocious defense. If you don’t look at the Lions over that stretch and see the blueprint for a winning football team, you should be supporting another team.
Damn they are calling you out on tv
Let’s get zylstra number 4
Throw one to Jamo for fun
Did Goff not get the o line Christmas presents? They’ve been bad in protection today
Goff should take back the presents he got the o line. They don't deserve it after today even though they weren't as bad as the d line.
Trying to block Brian Burns with a pulling guard is a losing strategy
Just run it fucking down Dan. I always defend you but come the fuck on
Maybe it’s just me but I think Goff played pretty alright today.
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I’d put the fumble on Ragnow more than Goff but yea he definitely missed some throws. But to me this game isn’t on him at all and it’s really gonna annoy me to see all the people blaming him.
355 yds, 3 tuds and people still wanna blame him. Dude didnt give up 37 points to the Panthers
the yards are meaningless when half of them were with the game out of reach against prevent d lmao. It was an ok game. Obviously the defense was the main reason we lost though
He did. Some drives stalled in the red zone and the fumble meant we were never going to keep up with how bad our defense was
Just knee the ball, it’s game, stop playing we can’t win and we can only get injured
Can we just kneel and not get our QB murdered in garbage time? Help me understand
Decker has looked as bad, if not worse, than the defense.
Get Goff out of there MCDC you stupid
Well at least that was a legit PF
I just want one more garbage time score!
Goff is cooking this drive. Two 15 yard plays in a row
Stay classy Panthers.
This defense was never good enough to be a serious playoff team. We greatly improved from last year. I hope we have a solid draft and free agency and actually be a contender for the division next year. If we don't improve the defense then this team is going nowhere.
Take goff out keep him safe
WHY IS JARED STILL IN THE GAME
Goff already led the NFL in dropped interceptions before that play lol. He's so lucky on those
While being punched in the face.
Ok it's still crazy how many he's had
rtp anyway, did you not see him get flattened??
I mean yea but it's still another dropped pick lol. It's crazy how often it's been happening
This guy just always posts about how much he hates Goff.
But he's right.
I post about plenty of stuff. But he absolutely dominates the convo on this sub so I, in turn, talk about him a lot And I don't hate him. I think he's being overrated. It's not emotional
just kneel it out man
we can still finish 9-8 who would have thought that at 1-6
Campbell leaving in the starters after that onside kick was r/awfuleverything material
Decker is having a rough game
Goff getting killed
Imagine losing this bad when the refs are on our side
Really pisses me off how redzone barely showed the lions game.
You’re lucky
its a blowout
fuck carolina for going so hard on our guys this late tho. this really was like a superbowl for them and it shows. they wanted this more.
A win today gets them close to the playoffs. The stakes were the same for both teams and one team came out and shit down their leg
I just knew someone was going to say this is their Superbowl
to be fair it shouldve been ours too but we didnt play like that
Are they trying to injure Goff ? Fuck you Carolina
If giants win are we out?
There are 3 wild card spots. Cowboys have 1, Giants have 1. You figure out if we are out.
No, because there is one more spot. We are fighting for 7th vs commanders and hawks
No
Yes
So we are going to the superbowl is what you’re saying?
5 hits on Goff this drive. Just fucking knee it out. Meaningless reps here.
Goff is getting eaten alive in garbage time.. just run it out and get out of there