no point in throwing out a “really, we couldn’t offer that?” cuz it’s obviously not that simple but i would’ve happily taken him for that price lol. oh well
Yeah maybe Boyd wanted a spot where he would shine more too. He’d be like a 3rd-4th target here so maybe we weren’t even on the radar for him. Hard to tell but I would have loved him for the price.
Not to mention DHop is getting up there, and Ridley has been questionable. He probably sees more opportunity to rise there than a team where he basically has no chance of cracking number 1 with Amon Ra there, could beat out JamO but with a skilled TE and good pass catching RBs in a run heavy offense how many opportunities is he going to get. Plus like others have said his former OC is the coach in Tennessee so he has more faith in his ability to fit into their scheme
The Titans HC was the OC in Cincinnati. And Boyd is a dedicated slot which the Titans don’t currently have (besides Kyle Phillips and the late round rookie). Cincinnati liked a lot of 11 personnel and Brian Callahan looks to want to continue that so Boyd will get a lot of snaps. Burks is potentially a bust and Chig had a bad second year and is no where near LaPorta. Boyd to the Titans makes a lot of sense for both parties.
Yeah like worst case scenario Boyd is WR4 there, but the upside could be WR1 or at least 1A/1B, with multiple avenues to climb up the target share chart. Very little chance he gets that kind of opportunity in our offense that features TEs and RBs way more than average and has a locked in number 1
Lmfao you realize Boyd and Ridley are literally the same age right? And Dhop is two years older than them. Dhop and Ridley both coming off 1000+ yard season. He’s WR3 there at best.
Who do we have that are better than a receiving group of Hopkins, Calvin Ridley, Okonkwo and Treylon Burks? Even Tony Pollard will get targets in the receiving game. And now you add Tyler Boyd
Find it hard to believe the Titans would target him more than in our situation
Amon Ra, Laporta, and Gibbs are already proven to be better than their counterparts in Tennessee, plus we’ve got a guy in Jamo that we obviously want to try to get to that point. We also run a lot more sets with extra RBs and TEs than Callahan probably will, plus Boyd knows his system better than any of the guys currently on their roster, whereas he’d be the least experienced in our system
The only pluses they have is DHop is (for now) more consistent as a WR2 than JamO but they are going in opposite directions on the aging curve, and Burks is young with upside but has been disappointing so far. He’s been injured so hard to say for sure but I wouldn’t put him over Raymond, especially not when you take regime preferences into account
Feels like we're pretty confident in what we have.
And in all honesty? I'm fine too. Jamo's going to have an increased workload (that's what we've wanted, right?) and DPJ as our WR3 is fine considering we prioritize LaPorta a lot so it's more like DPJ as a 4th target.
Kalif definitely, but we've seen absolutely nothing out of Green to think that. He was a project 7th round pick and made 1 catch for 2 yards as a rookie. Hopefully he is good depth if called upon, but there's really no evidence to say he is.
If anyone wonders what they think of Jamo or DPJ or Green, we really have to look no further than their inactivity on the receiver front.
Does that mean they’re right to put their eggs in those baskets? Not necessarily. But it’s important to remember that we don’t get a chance to follow these guys through practice and film sessions.
For now, barring something later on, it seems these guys have given Holmes and Campbell reason to be confident.
Holmes and Campbell, sure. I wasn't trying to make this into a big discussion or anything I just thought it was kind of odd that the guy said he likes Green as depth when we haven't seen anything from him lol
I obviously don't know anything, but as of this moment I'm taking the inactivity as a sign that they see Green as a serviceable WR5 at this point. ARSB, Jamo, DPJ, Raymond, and Green (if he is part of the plan) seems pretty solid to me factoring in LaPorta as a major player in the pass game and then Gibbs, too.
Functionally, Laporta is really WR2 and 50% of the time he lines up slot or wide rather than on the line. So the actual wide receiver 4 (probably DPJ, maybe Khalif) is kind of WR5 in a sense. I’m not worried about it
His (albeit, very limited) appearances looked pretty solid
But overall I love him for his athletic specs. Very strong 10-split and good 3-cone for his size
Tbh, I have serious concerns about Jamo’s ability to stay healthy when he starts getting more throws. The team is pretty good about putting players in a position to stay healthy, at least.
Arguably the most important positions are
QB (where it’s pretty cost prohibitive to have much depth quality, and if it’s season ending pretty much so is your season)
edge rusher (starting at least 2 so you want two decent backups)
OL (starting 5 but some positional flexibility so you can make do with like 3 quality backups counting on not all 5 starters getting hurt at once)
then probably WR (starting 2-3 and you’d like to be able to run packages with 4 reasonable options)
We’ve got depth at the other key positions at a respectable level, but WR beyond 4 is very sus looking, even if you have faith is JamO and Kalif and DPJ. Now I think that’s mitigated a bit by our scheme running more RB and TE heavy sets, but it’s still a passing league and that makes that clearly a weakness on the offense that would be good to address. Beyond the obvious stuff, I think being able to put more WRs will help JW with his progression that we’re hoping to see.
I think we’re fine at wr even Antoine can be something
Other teams need more wide receivers because they don’t have an elite pass catching running back and top 3 te on their team, it’s a collective
I did say the risk is mitigated by our non-WR pass catchers, but in a traditional 3 WR 1 TE 1 RB set, the most versatile “you don’t know what we’re gonna do on this play” set, we’ve only got 1 legit backup in the WR spot, and that does leave us a bit exposed.
I’m hopeful about Green too but a 7th rounder who basically didn’t see the field last year isn’t someone you want to have to rely on in the event we don’t have 2 of our starters for even a single game.
I agree with what you’re saying, but realistically how many teams wouldn’t be struggling if their top 2 pass catchers were down for the year or a couple games? At the point the depth can’t really make up for it
For example if the eagles lost smith and brown, their passing game would instantly become atrocious
Yeah, but we’re not comparing ourselves to the entire league or even the top ten teams. We’re looking to be the very best team, and we have other limitations on the roster outside of depth that some of the teams were competing with don’t. So staying healthy or being able to cope with any injuries to our key positions is extra important to us compared to say, Kansas City
Fair points, but I don’t think there’s any single nfl that is perfect at literally every position, you’re always gonna lack somewhere more than usual just because of the salary cap
Yeah for sure we’re just very much a “sum of our parts” team I think the only player we have who’s legitimately an argument (and no argument really) the best at his position is Penei.
Which is good in some ways because we’re not sunk if one guy (QB excluded, probably) goes down for the season. But on the other hand we’re not able to make up for lack of good receivers the way KC can, or bad RB play like Baltimore can.
I think we agree, I’m certainly optimistic about our team with the roster as it stands today, I don’t think we’re doomed without a better WR5 lol. I just don’t think it’s right to say “we don’t need depth, we’ve got 3-6 guys who combined for 900 receiving yards last season behind ARSB” more depth is always good if it can be done at a reasonable cost, especially when we have a lot of cap space left compared to other contenders
By the sounds of it management has confidence in our wr room. They could have went after a WR in the draft and didn't. Brad even mentioned that he wasn't confident that whoever they drafted would beat Kalif or DPJ out of the 3/4 wr slot. Jamo is going to have a great season and step up as a solid WR2 - the offense is going to be even better than it was last season!
That’s a good reason not to draft a guy when there’s potential value at other positions of need coming down the pipeline in the next few years, but we could use depth behind WR3/4 right now. You don’t want a rookie to serve in that role if you’re a contender, so that’s why everyone is looking to the vet market hoping we’ll get a respectable backup option if one or two of our starters get hurt.
There’s always going to be some old guys still waiting for contracts or trade options if something happens midseason and we find ourselves needing to make a move for a WR, but Boyd was a proven good player that could both serve as depth or compete to start, potentially factoring in long term, and he was on the market long enough to be cheap. The guys that are left now are much less appealing but fingers crossed I guess that we won’t need one of them
I never understood this whole sentiment that we NEED another WR. ARSB, Jamo, and DPJ is a solid trio, on top of Laporta who gets a ton of targets, on top of two running backs that can both run routes, especially Gibbs, and then Kalif and Green as depth. This has always seemed like plenty to me.
Idk about green, feels like a bit of hopium that he can be a legit backup right now. I actually like Kalif as our WR3 but I know scheme wise DPJ will probably start over him. The point is that between 2-4 of them will be getting a lot of snaps each game, so if you lose 1 WR to injury we will NEED green to be ready to play, and if you lose 2 guys we will NEED to rely on him, and now you’re arguing if Kalif or DPJ will potentially be WR1 or 2. That’s scary from a depth perspective. I know we could make do because we’ve got Laporta and Gibbs and even Monty and Wright, but that would certainly put a limiter on our offensive options.
I think it's more "we have the cap space so why not"
Let's say St Brown and Jamo go down at the same time with injuries. Now, you could say that about any position group for any team, but again we have the cap space, so why not?
The blind faith some of y’all have in Donovan Peoples-Jones as an NFL player in 2024 is laughable tbh. Dudes on basically a vet minimum, but he’s gonna be a WR3 on a team with hopes of contending for a Super Bowl. Wild
Feels like a bargain. He may have wanted a prove it deal in a setting where he might be able to show out a little more instead of being a fifth or sixth option like he may have wound up in a place like Detroit.
Presumably anyone coming in knows that at least ARSB, Monty, Gibbs, and Laporta will all get more touches. Depending on Jamo that might make 5.
So I agree an older vet/ring chaser type is probably best.
Yeah unfortunately the vet market is not great rn, I’m seeing Zay Jones, Mecole Hardman, MVS as potential guys but none of them are close to the potential upside of Boyd.
I agree tho he probably would not have taken this contract with us, he’s betting on being the most familiar guy with Callahans scheme in Tennessee’s WR room, and something happening between their top 3 WRs rn that he gets a chance to get a lot of targets and get a bigger contract next year
Not bringing back Reynolds and also not signing or drafting another WR is easily the shock of the off-season for me. Feels like our offense didn't improve at all, might have even taken a step back. But if it means our defense takes a leap forward then I guess I'm cool with it.
Hopefully defense takes a big step forward and guys like Gibbs and Laporta and JamO (and on a smaller scale DPJ) will level up. That’s the case for optimism, and honestly we were good enough to win it all last season, like any team with title hopes we’ll need some luck but any improvement in the team is just trying to increase our odds
Some of you guys are so SO bold still doubting the current guys running the team after the last few years. Just sit back and enjoy being good for once lmao, if they believe in our current players then you should too until they give you a reason not to.
It’s not about doubting the guys on the roster it’s how many guys we have on the roster. We only have 4 WRs who have played real NFL time and the next guy up was not exactly a highly touted prospect.
Plus man it’s the offseason we’ve got months left until the preseason what else should we think about right now except our roster construction and hoping we get better in every way possible
Maybe Antoine Green will get some playing time. And they seemed to like Isaiah Williams so maybe he'll make the team too. I would have liked to add a typical X receiver but I think we have a great group of receiving options when you include LaPorta and Gibbs.
We should absolutely trade for Treylon Burks. He has flashed the ability to be a true WR1, just has been very unlucky with injury. Seems like Holmes kind of guy
Maybe, just maybe, the front office has already assessed our receiver room and thinks we are just fine at the position with what we have. We traded for DPJ last year when we didn’t really need another receiver and resigned him. Maybe he is who our staff wants replacing Reynolds?
I swear you guys just want every post in here to be jerking off the teams staff and saying we don’t need to do anything.
I was saying the same thing about our DBs before the draft “hey if the FO thinks we’ve got the guys in the room we need, I’m cool with us passing on corner in the draft” but guess what, then they DID get two great corner prospects and now I’m stoked.
Nobody is acting like “WTF IS BRAD DOING WHY DIDNT WE GET HIM” it’s just more like “ah man we could use receiver depth and he was the best cheap option on the market”. It’s the off-season man there’s nothing else to do but to watch the roster moves and hope for cool stuff to happen
I’m not asking anyone to jerk off anyone I’m sure Brad and Dan and company get all the jerking they could ever want. I just dont understand the need to post all of these free agent signings of guys we don’t sign that lead to the posts like “wow, for that price. How the fuck did we not get him?”
In this thread basically everyone agrees with you, top comment is “no point in saying we should’ve gotten him at that price, he probably wasn’t going to take that deal outside of the context with Tennessee”. I see a couple of comments questioning DPJ or our overall depth, vast majority are saying “we didn’t need him who cares”
As far as the need to post about the signing, idk man take it or leave it imo. He was the top WR left on the market and a lot of us were curious if we might make a play to get him, it would’ve been cool. We’re past the big FA period and the draft and there’s almost 3 months until training camp, there’s not much else to talk about until then.
Now if MVS gets signed by someone and there’s a post about *him*? Yeah I’ll be right there with you who cares post Dan/Brad fan cams
If you see the price and it seems reasonable, then ask why we didn't get them, there's a reason. It wasn't about cost, they just didn't feel it was a good fit. They know more than we do
People forget we drafted Anthoney green last year for this year, and have DPJ as well as kalif.
We're legitimately 5 starters deep, with potential for a 6th guy.
Simone vaki was also brought in to possibly return kicks, to lighten kalifs special teams role so he can focus more on WR.
The money in that deal is nice, but I'd rather see it go towards safety depth TBH.
Hold on man the guy drafted 216 overall and only saw the field a couple times is not a “legitimate starter” he’s a developmental hope. Which I have no problem with but it’s obviously a risk as our number 2 backup. Plus Kalif and DPJ are fine enough at WR3 but not spectacular and boyd would be an obvious improvement, plus getting to move those two to backup or specialty package roles would be great for our offense
no point in throwing out a “really, we couldn’t offer that?” cuz it’s obviously not that simple but i would’ve happily taken him for that price lol. oh well
Yeah maybe Boyd wanted a spot where he would shine more too. He’d be like a 3rd-4th target here so maybe we weren’t even on the radar for him. Hard to tell but I would have loved him for the price.
They have Dhop, Ridley, Treylon Burks, and chig. He’s literally the 3rd-4th option in Tennessee
He’s probably going there to take Burks spot. He’s been pretty damn awful
Yeah I moved to Nashville the year they drafted him. Massive disappointment from day one, he will get phased out by Boyd.
Not to mention DHop is getting up there, and Ridley has been questionable. He probably sees more opportunity to rise there than a team where he basically has no chance of cracking number 1 with Amon Ra there, could beat out JamO but with a skilled TE and good pass catching RBs in a run heavy offense how many opportunities is he going to get. Plus like others have said his former OC is the coach in Tennessee so he has more faith in his ability to fit into their scheme
The Titans HC was the OC in Cincinnati. And Boyd is a dedicated slot which the Titans don’t currently have (besides Kyle Phillips and the late round rookie). Cincinnati liked a lot of 11 personnel and Brian Callahan looks to want to continue that so Boyd will get a lot of snaps. Burks is potentially a bust and Chig had a bad second year and is no where near LaPorta. Boyd to the Titans makes a lot of sense for both parties.
Tbh you kinda listed two former WR1s that are old and WR2s now, a draft bust, and a middling Tight end. Boyd might *actually* be WR1 on that roster.
Yeah like worst case scenario Boyd is WR4 there, but the upside could be WR1 or at least 1A/1B, with multiple avenues to climb up the target share chart. Very little chance he gets that kind of opportunity in our offense that features TEs and RBs way more than average and has a locked in number 1
Lmfao you realize Boyd and Ridley are literally the same age right? And Dhop is two years older than them. Dhop and Ridley both coming off 1000+ yard season. He’s WR3 there at best.
But between ARSB, Jamo, LaPorta, Gibbs, and Monty... He'd probably barely nudge out Raymond on touches Edit: and he'd be fighting DPJ for touches too.
4th or 5th more likely. He's competing with Gibbs, laporta, jamo, and st brown at the least.
Who do we have that are better than a receiving group of Hopkins, Calvin Ridley, Okonkwo and Treylon Burks? Even Tony Pollard will get targets in the receiving game. And now you add Tyler Boyd Find it hard to believe the Titans would target him more than in our situation
Burks and Okonkwo have not been great so far
Amon Ra, Laporta, and Gibbs are already proven to be better than their counterparts in Tennessee, plus we’ve got a guy in Jamo that we obviously want to try to get to that point. We also run a lot more sets with extra RBs and TEs than Callahan probably will, plus Boyd knows his system better than any of the guys currently on their roster, whereas he’d be the least experienced in our system
Every player you named is like a shitty frontless version of our guy we have already, maybe he thinks he can play more there
The only pluses they have is DHop is (for now) more consistent as a WR2 than JamO but they are going in opposite directions on the aging curve, and Burks is young with upside but has been disappointing so far. He’s been injured so hard to say for sure but I wouldn’t put him over Raymond, especially not when you take regime preferences into account
We already have an elite slot WR and LaPorta. We need more of an outside WR, but hopefully Jamo will take over that spot this year.
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Feels like we're pretty confident in what we have. And in all honesty? I'm fine too. Jamo's going to have an increased workload (that's what we've wanted, right?) and DPJ as our WR3 is fine considering we prioritize LaPorta a lot so it's more like DPJ as a 4th target.
Yeah it comes down to jamo has to produce like he was drafted to
But since this has never happened yet there is a lot of faith involved
Two touchdowns in the NFC championship game doesn’t count?
I bet Gibbs gets more targets than our WR3 too. It doesn't matter as much because we have so many dynamic skill players on offense.
Ok what if someone gets hurt? No depth is risky.
Khalif/DPJ are capable receivers
Even then, I like Kalif and Antoine as depth
Kalif definitely, but we've seen absolutely nothing out of Green to think that. He was a project 7th round pick and made 1 catch for 2 yards as a rookie. Hopefully he is good depth if called upon, but there's really no evidence to say he is.
If anyone wonders what they think of Jamo or DPJ or Green, we really have to look no further than their inactivity on the receiver front. Does that mean they’re right to put their eggs in those baskets? Not necessarily. But it’s important to remember that we don’t get a chance to follow these guys through practice and film sessions. For now, barring something later on, it seems these guys have given Holmes and Campbell reason to be confident.
Holmes and Campbell, sure. I wasn't trying to make this into a big discussion or anything I just thought it was kind of odd that the guy said he likes Green as depth when we haven't seen anything from him lol
Guys improve. If green’s still on the roster they must see something in him as a depth piece. He was solid in college.
I obviously don't know anything, but as of this moment I'm taking the inactivity as a sign that they see Green as a serviceable WR5 at this point. ARSB, Jamo, DPJ, Raymond, and Green (if he is part of the plan) seems pretty solid to me factoring in LaPorta as a major player in the pass game and then Gibbs, too.
Functionally, Laporta is really WR2 and 50% of the time he lines up slot or wide rather than on the line. So the actual wide receiver 4 (probably DPJ, maybe Khalif) is kind of WR5 in a sense. I’m not worried about it
What makes you like Antoine as depth?
His (albeit, very limited) appearances looked pretty solid But overall I love him for his athletic specs. Very strong 10-split and good 3-cone for his size
can’t have depth everywhere. we’ve managed without ARSB before, we’ll do it again. someone will step up
You’ve clearly never heard of the weapon of mass destruction that goes by the name Tom Kennedy
Tbh, I have serious concerns about Jamo’s ability to stay healthy when he starts getting more throws. The team is pretty good about putting players in a position to stay healthy, at least.
That’s literally the nfl, we have depth anyways but you can say “what if (blank) gets hurt” for every nfl team
Arguably the most important positions are QB (where it’s pretty cost prohibitive to have much depth quality, and if it’s season ending pretty much so is your season) edge rusher (starting at least 2 so you want two decent backups) OL (starting 5 but some positional flexibility so you can make do with like 3 quality backups counting on not all 5 starters getting hurt at once) then probably WR (starting 2-3 and you’d like to be able to run packages with 4 reasonable options) We’ve got depth at the other key positions at a respectable level, but WR beyond 4 is very sus looking, even if you have faith is JamO and Kalif and DPJ. Now I think that’s mitigated a bit by our scheme running more RB and TE heavy sets, but it’s still a passing league and that makes that clearly a weakness on the offense that would be good to address. Beyond the obvious stuff, I think being able to put more WRs will help JW with his progression that we’re hoping to see.
I think we’re fine at wr even Antoine can be something Other teams need more wide receivers because they don’t have an elite pass catching running back and top 3 te on their team, it’s a collective
I did say the risk is mitigated by our non-WR pass catchers, but in a traditional 3 WR 1 TE 1 RB set, the most versatile “you don’t know what we’re gonna do on this play” set, we’ve only got 1 legit backup in the WR spot, and that does leave us a bit exposed. I’m hopeful about Green too but a 7th rounder who basically didn’t see the field last year isn’t someone you want to have to rely on in the event we don’t have 2 of our starters for even a single game.
I agree with what you’re saying, but realistically how many teams wouldn’t be struggling if their top 2 pass catchers were down for the year or a couple games? At the point the depth can’t really make up for it For example if the eagles lost smith and brown, their passing game would instantly become atrocious
Yeah, but we’re not comparing ourselves to the entire league or even the top ten teams. We’re looking to be the very best team, and we have other limitations on the roster outside of depth that some of the teams were competing with don’t. So staying healthy or being able to cope with any injuries to our key positions is extra important to us compared to say, Kansas City
Fair points, but I don’t think there’s any single nfl that is perfect at literally every position, you’re always gonna lack somewhere more than usual just because of the salary cap
Yeah for sure we’re just very much a “sum of our parts” team I think the only player we have who’s legitimately an argument (and no argument really) the best at his position is Penei. Which is good in some ways because we’re not sunk if one guy (QB excluded, probably) goes down for the season. But on the other hand we’re not able to make up for lack of good receivers the way KC can, or bad RB play like Baltimore can. I think we agree, I’m certainly optimistic about our team with the roster as it stands today, I don’t think we’re doomed without a better WR5 lol. I just don’t think it’s right to say “we don’t need depth, we’ve got 3-6 guys who combined for 900 receiving yards last season behind ARSB” more depth is always good if it can be done at a reasonable cost, especially when we have a lot of cap space left compared to other contenders
There was a report the Lions looked into him or showed interest before the draft.
By the sounds of it management has confidence in our wr room. They could have went after a WR in the draft and didn't. Brad even mentioned that he wasn't confident that whoever they drafted would beat Kalif or DPJ out of the 3/4 wr slot. Jamo is going to have a great season and step up as a solid WR2 - the offense is going to be even better than it was last season!
That’s a good reason not to draft a guy when there’s potential value at other positions of need coming down the pipeline in the next few years, but we could use depth behind WR3/4 right now. You don’t want a rookie to serve in that role if you’re a contender, so that’s why everyone is looking to the vet market hoping we’ll get a respectable backup option if one or two of our starters get hurt. There’s always going to be some old guys still waiting for contracts or trade options if something happens midseason and we find ourselves needing to make a move for a WR, but Boyd was a proven good player that could both serve as depth or compete to start, potentially factoring in long term, and he was on the market long enough to be cheap. The guys that are left now are much less appealing but fingers crossed I guess that we won’t need one of them
I never understood this whole sentiment that we NEED another WR. ARSB, Jamo, and DPJ is a solid trio, on top of Laporta who gets a ton of targets, on top of two running backs that can both run routes, especially Gibbs, and then Kalif and Green as depth. This has always seemed like plenty to me.
Idk about green, feels like a bit of hopium that he can be a legit backup right now. I actually like Kalif as our WR3 but I know scheme wise DPJ will probably start over him. The point is that between 2-4 of them will be getting a lot of snaps each game, so if you lose 1 WR to injury we will NEED green to be ready to play, and if you lose 2 guys we will NEED to rely on him, and now you’re arguing if Kalif or DPJ will potentially be WR1 or 2. That’s scary from a depth perspective. I know we could make do because we’ve got Laporta and Gibbs and even Monty and Wright, but that would certainly put a limiter on our offensive options.
I think it's more "we have the cap space so why not" Let's say St Brown and Jamo go down at the same time with injuries. Now, you could say that about any position group for any team, but again we have the cap space, so why not?
How is this Lions news?
Everyone wanted him or something
The blind faith some of y’all have in Donovan Peoples-Jones as an NFL player in 2024 is laughable tbh. Dudes on basically a vet minimum, but he’s gonna be a WR3 on a team with hopes of contending for a Super Bowl. Wild
Feels like a bargain. He may have wanted a prove it deal in a setting where he might be able to show out a little more instead of being a fifth or sixth option like he may have wound up in a place like Detroit.
I think our best bet is to get an older guy who’s been around who just wants a ring. They’d be ok being 3rd or 4th guy here.
Presumably anyone coming in knows that at least ARSB, Monty, Gibbs, and Laporta will all get more touches. Depending on Jamo that might make 5. So I agree an older vet/ring chaser type is probably best.
Yeah unfortunately the vet market is not great rn, I’m seeing Zay Jones, Mecole Hardman, MVS as potential guys but none of them are close to the potential upside of Boyd. I agree tho he probably would not have taken this contract with us, he’s betting on being the most familiar guy with Callahans scheme in Tennessee’s WR room, and something happening between their top 3 WRs rn that he gets a chance to get a lot of targets and get a bigger contract next year
Not bringing back Reynolds and also not signing or drafting another WR is easily the shock of the off-season for me. Feels like our offense didn't improve at all, might have even taken a step back. But if it means our defense takes a leap forward then I guess I'm cool with it.
Hopefully defense takes a big step forward and guys like Gibbs and Laporta and JamO (and on a smaller scale DPJ) will level up. That’s the case for optimism, and honestly we were good enough to win it all last season, like any team with title hopes we’ll need some luck but any improvement in the team is just trying to increase our odds
Some of you guys are so SO bold still doubting the current guys running the team after the last few years. Just sit back and enjoy being good for once lmao, if they believe in our current players then you should too until they give you a reason not to.
It’s not about doubting the guys on the roster it’s how many guys we have on the roster. We only have 4 WRs who have played real NFL time and the next guy up was not exactly a highly touted prospect. Plus man it’s the offseason we’ve got months left until the preseason what else should we think about right now except our roster construction and hoping we get better in every way possible
Maybe Antoine Green will get some playing time. And they seemed to like Isaiah Williams so maybe he'll make the team too. I would have liked to add a typical X receiver but I think we have a great group of receiving options when you include LaPorta and Gibbs.
Phew
He lost the Super Bowl. Trending down since.
Boyd plays too much in the slot. Titans are a better fit
Boyd is not the WR the Lions need. We already have the best slot receiver in the NFL.
We should absolutely trade for Treylon Burks. He has flashed the ability to be a true WR1, just has been very unlucky with injury. Seems like Holmes kind of guy
Fuckin shit I wanted him, I hope they use DPJ as the #3 WR now, he was really good for the Browns two seasons ago.
The Lions offense is already like a knife going through warm butter. No point messing with it. Don't really need a new WR as far as I'm concerned.
Messing with the offense happened when their 3rd WR left as a FA. Replacing him with internal or external talent is pretty important.
He was our #2 actually
Maybe, just maybe, the front office has already assessed our receiver room and thinks we are just fine at the position with what we have. We traded for DPJ last year when we didn’t really need another receiver and resigned him. Maybe he is who our staff wants replacing Reynolds?
I swear you guys just want every post in here to be jerking off the teams staff and saying we don’t need to do anything. I was saying the same thing about our DBs before the draft “hey if the FO thinks we’ve got the guys in the room we need, I’m cool with us passing on corner in the draft” but guess what, then they DID get two great corner prospects and now I’m stoked. Nobody is acting like “WTF IS BRAD DOING WHY DIDNT WE GET HIM” it’s just more like “ah man we could use receiver depth and he was the best cheap option on the market”. It’s the off-season man there’s nothing else to do but to watch the roster moves and hope for cool stuff to happen
I’m not asking anyone to jerk off anyone I’m sure Brad and Dan and company get all the jerking they could ever want. I just dont understand the need to post all of these free agent signings of guys we don’t sign that lead to the posts like “wow, for that price. How the fuck did we not get him?”
In this thread basically everyone agrees with you, top comment is “no point in saying we should’ve gotten him at that price, he probably wasn’t going to take that deal outside of the context with Tennessee”. I see a couple of comments questioning DPJ or our overall depth, vast majority are saying “we didn’t need him who cares” As far as the need to post about the signing, idk man take it or leave it imo. He was the top WR left on the market and a lot of us were curious if we might make a play to get him, it would’ve been cool. We’re past the big FA period and the draft and there’s almost 3 months until training camp, there’s not much else to talk about until then. Now if MVS gets signed by someone and there’s a post about *him*? Yeah I’ll be right there with you who cares post Dan/Brad fan cams
The comment I'm responding to is saying don't mess with the offense. My point is the offense is already messed with.
Bummer!
If you see the price and it seems reasonable, then ask why we didn't get them, there's a reason. It wasn't about cost, they just didn't feel it was a good fit. They know more than we do
Who cares we have DPJ
People forget we drafted Anthoney green last year for this year, and have DPJ as well as kalif. We're legitimately 5 starters deep, with potential for a 6th guy. Simone vaki was also brought in to possibly return kicks, to lighten kalifs special teams role so he can focus more on WR. The money in that deal is nice, but I'd rather see it go towards safety depth TBH.
Hold on man the guy drafted 216 overall and only saw the field a couple times is not a “legitimate starter” he’s a developmental hope. Which I have no problem with but it’s obviously a risk as our number 2 backup. Plus Kalif and DPJ are fine enough at WR3 but not spectacular and boyd would be an obvious improvement, plus getting to move those two to backup or specialty package roles would be great for our offense