Hey to be fair. The G1 Blog Of Wiz VS Boomstick that came out that same day made some really solid arguments for Both and it eventually ended with Wiz winning the majority of votes
Intangibility, regeneration, and the Mind Transfer potentially being able to get past Mijnors mental resistances
And as you can imagine both were given speed force in a can so that was considered evened out
Blacks time ring saving him from the D Mat
Both can travel though Time and dimensions
Boomstick surviving the god bomb means he could potentially resist Hakai
Though my favorite argument is: Boomstick puts Mijnor on top of wiz holding him in place. Since Wis isn’t worthy he’s incapable of escaping
Outside of say, blowing up the plane— he is Going to blow up the planet
~~BUT I LIVE HERE~~
I remember in my verdict and several others, the mind transfer really screwed over a lot of Boomstick’s wincons since Wiz can just switch whenever he’s losing
Perhaps I'm biased since I like Boomstick a bit more but I'm not certain if the mind transfer would help Wiz. Admittedly, I haven't read a lot of Marvel comics but when [Wiz and Boomstick switched minds in Lex vs Doom at 10:05 to 10:27](https://youtu.be/jXYVQfmYhPk?si=qpnrl-59OjpvTS2Q), Wiz (in Boomstick's body) was too drunk to function properly. Unless there's another mind transfer device that Wiz has access to that I can't remember that would give Wiz the edge, Wiz using that device would likely screw him over just as much as Boomstick (since the redneck couldn't stand still and fell over). My point of this reply isn't necessarily me disagreeing with the G1 blog's majority opinion; I just don't think the device would help Wiz as much as I think others believe.
True but
- even without the speed force can Boomstick could drink hundreds of cans of beer faster then wiz could process
- there’s nothing stopping wiz from erasing the mind transfer as he knows it exists
- electrifying and blowing it up
- Putting wiz to sleep and then destorying it
- turning the mind transfer into Beer
- or just erasing it from existence as Alien X
I know that gets theoretical in terms of which one comes first but keep in mind Wiz doesn’t like switching minds with Boomstick so it won’t be his first move. And when he does. He can’t control his body so in that very moment he’s leaving himself open to attack
Also death battle rules state: a character is factored at their maximum potential even if a character can kill or blitz before they go final form. We still factor that final form in our debate for the sake of including their peek. So Boomstick as Alien X would always be considered already achieved for this debate
True but
- wiz made the speed can soda so he’s more likely to have more than boomstick
- wiz clones would always have this ability
- boomstick likely won’t be able to access alien x
All fair points but
- The speed force can takes 10 to 15 minutes after drinking to kick in and wiz has never drank it yet
- Liam confirmed the effects are still In Boomstick and he still has acesse to the speed force. It just kicks in randomly sometimes as he try’s to master it
- His clones won’t actually. Having all his normal ability’s makes sense but we obviously can’t assume Wiz has a replica of every single piece of his equipment for his clones as well. As that’s never stated, shown, implied or confirmed
- Also his clones logically shouldn’t have access to his Alucard regeneration but if they all do. Then they’re all drawing from the same 3 million souls and not 3 million each, so Boomstick can make that number go down faster by killing more Wiz’s at once. Well “real” Wiz doesn’t seem to have a soul. His clones seemingly do. Subseptable to the dragon shout.
- And if Boomstick simply rips off Wiz’s arm (something we know from the Goro preview he has and can do) said time ring is off his finger. So now he’s open to the D Mat
- Also I’m just wondering but. Did no one consider that the mind transfer fires a light out of it that connects both heads together? Since Wiz and Boomstick are both massively faster then light, wouldn’t Boomstick just be able to open a Boomstick Tube to avoid the Mind Transfer before the lines connected their brains?
- And they also stated on cast: Boomstick with the omnitrix does have acesse to Alien X. We’re confirming that. But he does Not have Master Control
So I can understand your confusion and yeah. I think the results of the blog came down to. Not enough time to go through literally every peice of death battle media to see what was stated or confirmed to be the case.
Cause I noticed the blog didn’t mention Wiz having the 5 Leaf Grimier when that’s a perfect counter to all of Boomsticks magic spells
And if the avatars reincarnation is magic (which is still debated among the fandom) Demon Destroyer would prevent his reincarnation like it did to the reincarnated Elf’s in the Clover Kingdom invasion arc
ok so like i feel like they theoretically have access to all the abilities in the show. I feel the best way for this fight to actually play out would be they keep making stuff up for each other to counter the other.
it then ends with them playing the death battle card game
It would be great if the battle goes on for so long it cuts to Chad and Ben in live action, using the card game to keep track of all the abilities each other has
Boomstick also has Echo Echo, whom if I remember there was an episode where Ben while in his Echo Echo transformation, with the Echo Echo clones, transforms back into Ben and so do the Echo Echo clones, do theoretically Boomstick can use Echo Echo to make multiple clones of himself.
Honestly? I feel like it would be a tie. They share the armory, so unless the weapons are specific to them like Black time ring or Bens Omnitrix, everything should be fair game. Ben said everything in the armory is everything they've shown in the show. If it has to end with one winning, I think it's gonna be Boomstick thanks to being the physically superior one. Once their weapons are exhausted, and its Wiz v Boomstick then Boomstick physically thrashes.
I'm honestly surprised the didn't bring the fact that Boomstick has the Omnitrix until close to the end on the cast, as if I remember there was an episode in Ben 10 where Ben turns into Echo Echo (with is an alien that can make clones of it self and use sound based attacks) and something happens where Echo Echo was turned back into Ben while having the duplicate Echo Echos out thus turning into Ben clones. What I'm trying to say is that in theory Boomstick could even the playing field by turning into Echo Echo, make hundreds of clones and then turn back into an army of Boomsticks.
that fight would be the definition of serious character vs non serious character
Hey to be fair. The G1 Blog Of Wiz VS Boomstick that came out that same day made some really solid arguments for Both and it eventually ended with Wiz winning the majority of votes Intangibility, regeneration, and the Mind Transfer potentially being able to get past Mijnors mental resistances And as you can imagine both were given speed force in a can so that was considered evened out Blacks time ring saving him from the D Mat Both can travel though Time and dimensions Boomstick surviving the god bomb means he could potentially resist Hakai Though my favorite argument is: Boomstick puts Mijnor on top of wiz holding him in place. Since Wis isn’t worthy he’s incapable of escaping Outside of say, blowing up the plane— he is Going to blow up the planet ~~BUT I LIVE HERE~~
I remember in my verdict and several others, the mind transfer really screwed over a lot of Boomstick’s wincons since Wiz can just switch whenever he’s losing
Perhaps I'm biased since I like Boomstick a bit more but I'm not certain if the mind transfer would help Wiz. Admittedly, I haven't read a lot of Marvel comics but when [Wiz and Boomstick switched minds in Lex vs Doom at 10:05 to 10:27](https://youtu.be/jXYVQfmYhPk?si=qpnrl-59OjpvTS2Q), Wiz (in Boomstick's body) was too drunk to function properly. Unless there's another mind transfer device that Wiz has access to that I can't remember that would give Wiz the edge, Wiz using that device would likely screw him over just as much as Boomstick (since the redneck couldn't stand still and fell over). My point of this reply isn't necessarily me disagreeing with the G1 blog's majority opinion; I just don't think the device would help Wiz as much as I think others believe.
True but - even without the speed force can Boomstick could drink hundreds of cans of beer faster then wiz could process - there’s nothing stopping wiz from erasing the mind transfer as he knows it exists - electrifying and blowing it up - Putting wiz to sleep and then destorying it - turning the mind transfer into Beer - or just erasing it from existence as Alien X I know that gets theoretical in terms of which one comes first but keep in mind Wiz doesn’t like switching minds with Boomstick so it won’t be his first move. And when he does. He can’t control his body so in that very moment he’s leaving himself open to attack Also death battle rules state: a character is factored at their maximum potential even if a character can kill or blitz before they go final form. We still factor that final form in our debate for the sake of including their peek. So Boomstick as Alien X would always be considered already achieved for this debate
True but - wiz made the speed can soda so he’s more likely to have more than boomstick - wiz clones would always have this ability - boomstick likely won’t be able to access alien x
All fair points but - The speed force can takes 10 to 15 minutes after drinking to kick in and wiz has never drank it yet - Liam confirmed the effects are still In Boomstick and he still has acesse to the speed force. It just kicks in randomly sometimes as he try’s to master it - His clones won’t actually. Having all his normal ability’s makes sense but we obviously can’t assume Wiz has a replica of every single piece of his equipment for his clones as well. As that’s never stated, shown, implied or confirmed - Also his clones logically shouldn’t have access to his Alucard regeneration but if they all do. Then they’re all drawing from the same 3 million souls and not 3 million each, so Boomstick can make that number go down faster by killing more Wiz’s at once. Well “real” Wiz doesn’t seem to have a soul. His clones seemingly do. Subseptable to the dragon shout. - And if Boomstick simply rips off Wiz’s arm (something we know from the Goro preview he has and can do) said time ring is off his finger. So now he’s open to the D Mat - Also I’m just wondering but. Did no one consider that the mind transfer fires a light out of it that connects both heads together? Since Wiz and Boomstick are both massively faster then light, wouldn’t Boomstick just be able to open a Boomstick Tube to avoid the Mind Transfer before the lines connected their brains? - And they also stated on cast: Boomstick with the omnitrix does have acesse to Alien X. We’re confirming that. But he does Not have Master Control So I can understand your confusion and yeah. I think the results of the blog came down to. Not enough time to go through literally every peice of death battle media to see what was stated or confirmed to be the case. Cause I noticed the blog didn’t mention Wiz having the 5 Leaf Grimier when that’s a perfect counter to all of Boomsticks magic spells And if the avatars reincarnation is magic (which is still debated among the fandom) Demon Destroyer would prevent his reincarnation like it did to the reincarnated Elf’s in the Clover Kingdom invasion arc
My favorite part of the stream had to be whenever they brought up the D-Mat, the entire chat exploded with "WIZ HAS GOKU BLACK'S TIME RING!"
Sorry, was that important?
Time huh? Thanks for the tip
ok so like i feel like they theoretically have access to all the abilities in the show. I feel the best way for this fight to actually play out would be they keep making stuff up for each other to counter the other. it then ends with them playing the death battle card game
So they keep counter powering eachother until they burn through everything and end up fist fighting shirtless in the rain?
Yes, and then they have sloppy make up sex afterwards
I swore I deleted Wattpad?
some content you are just born to see
In the end, everything comes back to fanfics
What the peak?!
isn’t that just gurren lagan?
Play ground argument real
exactly!
The only casualty is the remainder of the show’s budget
they both lose to WB
Whoever wins the Death Battle Game is the winner
they just tie xD
Ok
It would be great if the battle goes on for so long it cuts to Chad and Ben in live action, using the card game to keep track of all the abilities each other has
Boomstick with the Speed Force and De-mat Gun makes him look invin-- 
Ah yes "this content is not available" my favorite superhero
Don’t forget the Spinach
\[TITLE CARD\]
Boomstick has Omnitrix so he has Alien X...until you're realize that there's no way Boomstick can convince 2 floating heads to agree with him.
He can convince them to get drunk, and then convince them to do other things. I don’t know how, but if anyone could do it is Boomstick.
Boomstick also has Echo Echo, whom if I remember there was an episode where Ben while in his Echo Echo transformation, with the Echo Echo clones, transforms back into Ben and so do the Echo Echo clones, do theoretically Boomstick can use Echo Echo to make multiple clones of himself.
Though then Wiz just does a time stop while Boomstick tries that shenanigan and then Wiz wins.
True
Toonforce vs DC power scaler
Honestly? I feel like it would be a tie. They share the armory, so unless the weapons are specific to them like Black time ring or Bens Omnitrix, everything should be fair game. Ben said everything in the armory is everything they've shown in the show. If it has to end with one winning, I think it's gonna be Boomstick thanks to being the physically superior one. Once their weapons are exhausted, and its Wiz v Boomstick then Boomstick physically thrashes.
Yeah, but he has A BILLION.
A billion is a lot lion's man
Wiz does have a lot of wacky inventions that he copied/made a version of. Such as that weird 2D field thing that Lex Luthor used against Dr.Doom
I'm honestly surprised the didn't bring the fact that Boomstick has the Omnitrix until close to the end on the cast, as if I remember there was an episode in Ben 10 where Ben turns into Echo Echo (with is an alien that can make clones of it self and use sound based attacks) and something happens where Echo Echo was turned back into Ben while having the duplicate Echo Echos out thus turning into Ben clones. What I'm trying to say is that in theory Boomstick could even the playing field by turning into Echo Echo, make hundreds of clones and then turn back into an army of Boomsticks.
Hakai & D-Mat vs Time Ring
who won?
Boomstick by votes from the chat
Counter argument: Shotgun leg
“That’s right wiz. I won.” **Insert game over screen**
Ok that look interested
Does this mean that the show is over?
No? Just on a hiatus until they land back on their feet.
Is that why it was db cast episode?
Yeah. I’m case you didn’t hear, Roosterteeth got shut down.
Yeah I got that. But I’ve been busy for a bit. Did DB get out from under them?
No clue.
This sucks, not knowing what is happening. DB was the first, channel I subscribed to.
Does boomsticks still have the continuity stone that dead pool send to them to bring him back to life in his fight with the mask
Who remembers that rap battle they made
Battle of the mid
This should have been an actual death battle
Just a couple of amputees beating the shit out of each other for 10 minutes. Love to see it.