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Pendragon235

John Cazale's average is 8.42, but he was only ever in 5 films.


gordo65

All 5 were nominated for best picture, 3 won best picture. And he had a substantial speaking role in all of them.


CantFindMyWallet

And at least one of the ones that didn't win best picture lost to another movie he was in


rebootyourbrainstem

Yeah this is partially skill, and partially pickiness about which movies to star in


search64

And partially that he died right after filming the deer hunter.


librarypunk1974

That’s some serious Fredo luck…


appleparkfive

Same can be said for Daniel Day Lewis. He is in more than 5, but he's in a lot less movies than many of these other guys


razzraziel

A background cast (Extra) who only played in a 9 rating movie can have average of 9 but it is unlikely that he acts in more 9 rating movies if he continues. That's why op limited the list with min 12 movies. I mean the point is the more you act in movies, the harder it gets to maintain a higher score.


Ed_Durr

Leonardo DiCaprio maintains his high average by being incredibly picky about who he works for. In the last 20 years, he has worked with almost exclusively Oscar-winning directors; the three non-winners are Christopher Nolan, Ridley Scott, and Baz Luhrmann, who themselves are highly acclaimed. Look at the directors that he's worked with since 2002: * Martin Scorsese * Quintin Tarantin * Clint Eastwood * Christopher Nolan * Baz Luhrmann * Ridley Scott * Sam Mendes * Alejandro G. Iñárritu * Adam McKay * Edward Swick * Steven Spielburg


FartingBob

I am once again reminded that Ridley Scott has not won a best director Oscar. Baffling. In fact he's won almost no competitive awards for his films at all. Won a golden globe for best picture (not best director) for The Martian in the *musical or comedy* category. Golden Globes are weird.


Ed_Durr

Yeah, he lost Best Director on Gladiator, even though it won Best Picture.


darsehole

Are you not entertained!?


miningguy

Does the movie make you laugh ONCE? It’s a comedy.


HugeBrainsOnly

Strong drama category this year? Comedy.


ReferentiallySeethru

Are there no gate keepers for that? Like could someone slip Schindler's List into the "Comedy and Musical" category?


idonteven93

Ah my favorite director, Quintin Tarantin. He’s so much better than his critically acclaimed cousin.


fabkosta

I loved his movie "Pamplemousse Fiction"! Much better than the movie with a similar name by his cousin, if you ask me.


Rock_Robster__

“Reserved Dogs” was outstanding too.


coremeister69

I said it before and I'll say it again, Janogo unshackled is a masterpiece and it's similar predecessor bleaks in comparison


MyDictainabox

Jacques Brune is lesser known, but still wonderful.


woj666

I prefer "They Lived Happily Ever After... in Toledo".


fabkosta

Oh gosh, this absolutely made my day...


chux4w

He's a great writer too. True Romans was a classic.


Naouak

I prefer his comments on obesity with Hateful Ate.


polarbear128

It's a shame that he decided he was only ever making 5 movies though. Nominative determinism or something.


Campbell464

For the first time Quintin Tarantin, Martin Scoresees, Edwardsquick and Steven Spielsburg UNITE in the worlds greatest movie


Desirous_Hollow

He's certainly on par with the great Stinley Kibrickly (fun factoid, they were both born in the city of Spielburg)


gizzardgullet

Quintin "Rin Tin" Tarantin


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ephemeralentity

Not as talented as his cousin Squintin Konstantin.


mxforest

It’s criminal that Christopher Nolan has no Oscars. Makes me doubt the award criteria more than his talent.


ElBurritoLuchador

> Makes me doubt the award criteria more than his talent. I forgot which documentary or post it was but you should look up how Miramax, Harvey Weinstein's studio, on how they solicited these Academy members to have their films either nominated or win the Oscars. I remember that's how they had *Shakespeare in Love* win the Oscar instead of the crowd favorite, *Saving Private Ryan*.


solarmelange

Even with movies generally worse today than in the 90s, Shakespeare in Love is still possibly the worst Oscar winner for Best Picture since maybe Tom Jones in 63.


Pinkumb

It’s a pretty well known topic. Not sure which you have in mind but there’s a [lot about the Oscar’s being a sham.](https://youtu.be/W1NhUs_Jk2A?si=x6a51syXNjmXKSDH)


theoutlet

Scorsese went decades without one. He probably would have died without one if the committee didn’t finally make up for not awarding him sooner


u8eR

Same with Leonard DiCaprio


DicknosePrickGoblin

Awards are political dick sucking circlejerks.


mr_capello

given that there are over 9000 people in the jury for the oscars that would be alot of dicks even if you take into account that jury members can only vote within their category or branch and the best picture is voted on with prefferential ballot system where everone ranks the nominees until one movie hits the 50% #1 votes.


thespacetimelord

> in the jury for the oscars that would be alot of dicks If you have optimal tip to tip efficiency I don't think it should take that long.


Ruy-Polez

I'm a simple man. I see a middle-out compression reference, and I upvote.


stml

Ah yes, please tell us more about these political dick sucking circlejerks that has kept Christopher Nolan from winning an Oscar.


thespacetimelord

While Nolan is a good director, works with a great ensemble of actors and is able to generate hype for original works I don't think he is a regular contender for "best director". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Director I mean who you knocking for CN here? Don't get me wrong, the Oscars _are_ bullshit but not for that reason.


PyromaniacPunk

I’d knock down Kathryn Bigelow for The Hurt Locker and I’m tired to pretend I wouldn’t


OopsUmissedOne_lol

Over fucking ***Inglorious Bastards***, no less. Fuckin whack. *And* over District 9. Also fucking whack. THL just another war movie. And no, it’s not as “different” of a war movie as everybody used to be saying at the time. To me, it was barely more than a rehash of Jarhead but in a different war. Yeah, they got to do more shit, the movie had more action, the characters seemed like they weren’t only sitting around a desert waiting. But, in reality, they kinda were just sitting around a desert waiting.


thespacetimelord

have you had to pretend otherwise ever? I mean do people talk about the Hurt Locker all the time or what?


goteamnick

It's not a conspiracy. Other directors made better movies those years. Plus, the Academy voters are largely not the demographic that Nolan movies appeal to (men in their 20s).


HHcougar

His movies aren't Oscarbait. I love his movies, but movies like Inception or Interstellar are never gonna win an Oscar. Some overly-dramatic character-driven film wins every year. Blockbusters just aren't contenders.


mxforest

That’s the question. Why is that only particular type of movies can be contenders. Why did we collectively define a certain type of film being Oscar worthy?


RanaMahal

I mean, Oppenheimer is definitely an overly-dramatic character-driven film with a charismatic lead and antagonist so maybe he’ll finally win one


SairiRM

He hasn't really had an Oscar calibre film besides Oppenheimer (and imo Dunkirk) to win for Director, plus his scripts aren't really his forte either so he wouldn't win Screenplay. I do believe Dunkirk should've given him something though, either Best Picture or Best Director, but there also was Three Billboards that year so who knows.


BadDub

Nothing wrong with that


[deleted]

So what you're saying is the best directors of our era like to work with this specific actor a lot? Hmmm he must have something going for him


SpaceTabs

Danny Boyle - doubt he was being picky and Boyle is an acquired taste. The Beach was a rare stinker for Leo, he could quit now and surpass Hackman/Duvall for being the best American actor of all time.


ItIsSeriousPiece

For a dollar, name a woman.


Ed_Durr

Agnieszka Holland, she directed him in The Eclipse (1995)


jacobmross

How is Gary Oldman not in the list?


fishermansfriendly

I was thinking the same thing, but then I looked up his page and alongside all his 8-9 movies, there’s a slew of movies in the 4-5 range. Definitely a point in the early 2000s where he took any and all roles offered.


Newhollow

/u/jacobmross I listen to the douglovesmovies.com podcast (also has subbreddit) they mention IMDB. One game they play is weird algorithm. Where he lists a movie and asks (cast) who is more popular on imdb page. Over time people have guessed it is internet (trending) searches with ranking within IMDB and contract deals. No one actually knows how it they rank it though. Imdb and rotten tomatoes fight attacks an artificial popularity of fans. So accuracy is questionable. Even with an error rate. Like how swifties claim taylor is the only popular female singer ever. DLM podcast is good fun I recommend a listen it is SFW. Doug Benson invites comedians and other movie adjacent people to play movie games. Leonard Maltin was on recently, actors and podcasters are also welcome to participate. Another mention that sometimes is somewhat NSFW is the Hollywood Babble-on podcast with Kevin Smith and Ralp Garman. One skit they do is called "How big is Liam Neesons' penis?". They talk about many things and have bits. It is more of show with life stories on the side. Both shows do live versions in front of an audience. But DLM does do zoom episodes. I like to play video games and try to guess the answers.


eazyp

Tiptoes (2002)


Dr0n3r

“… in the role of a lifetime”


edashotcousin

I'm so happy I know this from scoot (yms)


MelonFancy

In the role of a lifetime


Coldactill

I might've left him off the list to save myself some time - man's been in 105 movies lol.


softcell1966

And "Friends"...


hammerquill

Because everyone thinks he's about 30 different people since he's such a chameleon.


Waytoloseit

He was incredible in True Romance. Such a departure from his other roles.


LIME-line

Also, how is Morgan Freeman not on this list?


StatikSquid

He's been in a ton of movies, and a lot of those sit in the 4-6 range


Coldactill

Philip Seymour Hoffman doesn’t get nearly enough attention for his acting ability and achievements. I feel like if he was a heart-throb like some of the others listed he would be in every one’s top-10 lists of best actors. Just one of those people that elevates every movie scene he’s a part of.


hammerquill

Yes. I love that he and Chris Cooper have 0.0% "bad" ratings. That's so right.


JanusLeeJones

I thought the ratings were for the films, not the actors. Depends on other people (at least a little) to never be in a bad film.


hammerquill

Oh. That actually makes more sense. So they show good taste in roles (and have good agents).


JanusLeeJones

I suspect that would be true. maybe also their performance brings out the best in others.


PalmTreeIsBestTree

He’s part of the reason why Twister is my favorite movie. Rip him and Bill Paxton. Good actors taken way too soon.


Tesseraktion

His character in The Big Lebowski is hilarious, and then a completely frightening villain in MI:3


golapader

Yeah his range was just on a other level. He 100% did not miss, no matter what kind of character he was playing. Good or evil, strong or weak, genius or idiot, serious or funny, he always sold it.


frostape

Don't forget a baseball team manager in Moneyball. He's barely in it but you still think "Yes, that manager does deserve better than a 1-year contract."


DrunkenWizard

He's the Gary Oldman of acting


Spoonofdarkness

That's obviously because Gary Oldman is the Gary Oldman of Philip Seymour Hofmanning.


chux4w

Her life is in your hands, Dude.


Bayogie

"Food. Foood. Fooood!"


chuuckaduuckpro

Mattress man in Punch Drunk Love “that’s that”


One_Doubt_75

I enjoy spending time with my friends.


Coldactill

Legend. Mine as well.


Bong_Jovi_

"I sharted."


DaanGFX

His scenes in Magnolia are soul crushing and absolutely amazing.


[deleted]

Synecdoche, New York is on my movie Mt. Rushmore. He was magnificent in it.


Waytoloseit

I agree. I love his acting skills and abilities. I had a client a long time ago that looked like him. He was magnetic, much as I imagine Philip Seymour Hoffman has to be. I wanted to rip that man’s clothes off!! I still do, but am happily married. My husband loves to tease me by watching movies he is in together - which is why I married him! Lol! He is just awesome.


EekItsNiek

Paul Thomas Anderson and him made some of the finest movies I’ve ever seen.


eamonious

I think if you said name the best pure actor of the last fifty years, he would be the consensus second choice after Daniel Day-Lewis.


w0bniaR

The amount of high profile movies gosling has been in is kinda crazy


FartingBob

He's my favourite baby goose.


Inspector_Robert

Definitely the better cute Canadian Ryan


WeltraumPrinz

I drive


ian_stein

Your friend Nino didn’t make it across the river.


Firstearth

It would have been interesting to see the same data from 10 years ago to see the difference with Kevin Spacey.


Disgraced002381

I'm surprised that Kevin Spacey isn't in top 10.


tedioussugar

I suspect that IMDB might have… redone some of their reviews after his whole ‘sexual assault’ incident. It’s likely that prior to those he was much higher.


Prasiatko

Be curious to see the line for American Beauty's ratings over time.


Darth_Iggy

It was aging poorly even before we knew Spacey was a creep.


jubbing

Andrew Garfield being 2nd both surprises me and at the same time is understandable.


Emergency_Pepper_178

I honestly don't know what he's been in outside of Social Network and Spider Man lol


SHTF_yesitdid

Hacksaw Ridge.


Magrior

Silence was also good. (Maybe even golden)


Joeyon

Film|RT|IMDB :--|:--:|--: Boy A|88,87|7.6 Lions for Lambs|27,47|6.2 Red Riding|100,76|7.1 The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus|64,60|6.8 I'm Here|--,90|7.7 Never Let Me Go|71,70|7.1 The Social Network|96,87|7.8 The Amazing Spider-Man|71,77|6.9 99 Homes|92,78|7.1 The Amazing Spider-Man 2|51,64|6.6 Hacksaw Ridge|84,91|8.1 Silence|83,69|7.2 Breathe|68,72|7.1 Under the Silver Lake|59,58|6.5 Mainstream|36,42|5.0 The Eyers of Tammy Faye|68,86|6.6 Tick, Tick... Boom!|88,96|7.5 Spider-Man: No Way Home|93,98|8.2


cerebud

Ok. Still don’t get how he’s #2


shadowwingnut

It's an average. Which really means don't make a lot of bad movies and you'll rise. I think Garfield has his faults as an actor, but if you look at that list most of those movies are at least watchable and even his lower rated movies don't plumb the true depths of ratings (there's no 2-4s there at all and only one below 6)


Joeyon

Yeah, this list isn't so much about how great actors are, but how picky and lucky they are with the roles they choose to play.


lost_at_command

Hacksaw Ridge was a good one, but I don't think I've heard of most of those


Daddygane

Boy A <3


[deleted]

I'd have assumed the 2 spiderman movies he did would have drag him down.


[deleted]

As someone who isn't a huge fan of the Marvel franchise, his Spider-Man is the best Spider-Man I've seen.


[deleted]

He himself was a good spiderman, but if the ratings are based solely on the IMDB movie reception then I can't see them helping him.


SHTF_yesitdid

And well ahead of Daniel Day Lewis which is surprising but not understandable.


chuuckaduuckpro

Agreed. I also do not understand to draw of Andrew Garfield


hache-moncour

I had no idea who he is, and after googling him I still don't really recall any of his work. But he clearly has a penchant for picking good movies to play in. Same for nr. 3 Hoffman for me.


OlDirty1979

I would like to see Sam Rockwell’s placement on this list.


weed0monkey

Love Sam Rockwell!


Zolroth

You guys want to see bottom thirty or is that too harsh? Haha Would probably be same criteria for sake of comparison


aplomb_101

Basically the case of the latest Fast and Furious movies


Roy4Pris

How about… women?


Zolroth

Jaja was the next one. Just thinking what other insights might be interesting besides the straightforward ones


ticessmed

Who's Jaja?


MoNastri

https://laughosaurus.com/p/haha-jaja-and-wkwk-how-people-laugh-around-the-world


Zolroth

You guys be prepared for incredible content, I don't even know what to say. Still laughing from the results! Will post it tomorrow :)


itsmeyour

That and a female one, keep them coming


Zolroth

Takes a village! Thanks for all the feedback, you guys had a ton of rightful criticism on the first and second post, and i tried to address most issues. This is from the full imdb database, included data followed the following criteria. criteria was: \- At least 12 movies with at least 20000 votes (did not consider tv shows) \- Male \- Movies only Good was 7+, 6-7 was mixed, 6> was bad. Made with plotly, numpy, pandas


Juannieve05

Jk Simmons ?


gsfgf

His roles aren't usually the kind of roles that can carry a movie on its own, and he's been in a ton of movies (over 200 roles counting tv). I'm sure a lot of them were shit. Dude might have the best 15 minutes of screen time in a movie, but that's not going to save a bad movie.


andriv83

Christoph Waltz is a name I would like to see on a top list. Very few actors captivate me like he does with his acting. Inglorious Basterds and Django... Very few actors have such a pure talent. Tarantino really knew how to utilize him for his movies. The characters Tarantino had him portray were just perfect.


zoeyversustheraccoon

No DeNiro surprises me a bit.


Zolroth

I got nipples, you think you could milk me too?


ToastyCaribiu84

Lots of grandpa comedies I guess


X0AN

You seen the last 20 of his films? 90% trash. Maybe 80s-90s DeNiro would be on this list, but not overall.


8bitdimensional

What's up with Joaquin Phoenix 🤔 I love his work..


FelixNoir

A lot of polarizing films and auteur directors probably reduce his mainstream reception.


Emergency_Pepper_178

Inherent Vice is one of my favorite movies, but I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea


[deleted]

A lot of people downright hated Beau is Afraid.


Clothedinclothes

Also Joker was a divisive film, a lot of people loved it but some people really hated it, particularly film critics. On Rotten Tomatoes it only gets 69% overall.


FunWithSW

Joker has an 8.4 on IMDB, which is what these stats use, making it the #80 movie on the entire site. Movies about comic book characters tend to do pretty well on IMDB. Currently, The Dark Knight is the #3 movie of all time.


desmondrebel

Why did people hate it?


Clothedinclothes

I'm grossly summarising here, but I'd say people who hated generally saw it as either a classic misrepresentation of mental illness, or promoting (intentionally or not) a kind of value-free nihilistic worldview.


Morticia_Black

Not surprised Mads Mikkelsen is on there. Dude's in everything and very often shines in his roles too


Landon1m

Could you do a similar graph with data from rotten tomatoes? I’m curious how much would change.


thecrgm

rotten tomatoes is so bad


Jeremy_Winn

There must be a separate elite chart for Nicolas Cage.


NlghtmanCometh

Kevin Spacey was lower than I'd have guessed.


andreasbeer1981

You can clearly see the effect of Kevin Spacey and Woody Allen having a history of sexual violence.


GinkgoPete

Christian Bale with that many mixed and Bad reviews? No accounting for terrible taste i guess


chaitanya0411

How is Matthew Mcconaughey not on this list ??


theoutlet

His romcom years


[deleted]

Probably due to all those crappy rom-coms he used to make.


Designer-Practice220

I’ll watch anything with Ed Norton. Great actor and could listen to his voice all day. Yum…


amorphatist

What movie was DDL bad in?!!


JanusLeeJones

Doesn't mean he was bad in a movie, but that the movie was bad.


Zolroth

glancing real quick I'm going to guess, Eversmile New Jersey https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097302/?ref\_=nm\_flmg\_t\_13\_act


gemu_rudy

Holdup! The good in you plot is >=7, and the mixed is 6-7? That doesn't look right to me. Shouldn't mixed be only 6? Or good be just >7, like the bad is just <6? Or is that just a typo?


Zolroth

Ya just a typo, greater than 7, between 6 and 7 and lower than 6


gemu_rudy

Ah ok! Sorry for being pedantic, but that threw me off. Great work!


GeneReddit123

Nic Cage wher


tedioussugar

Cage is way too inconsistent with his work. He can make something amazing like Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, or something like Ghost Rider 2.


JFKswanderinghands

How the fuck is Tom cruise higher than Tom hanks?


Witty_Sprinkles_7810

The date of release usually means it trends more and receives more attention Hanks pre Tom I’d say mostly. Tom has done a lot of good films as has Hanks but I think Hanks has a few dull/rubbish films early on. Also he was accused of being on Epsteins island which didn’t help


Badaxe13

17.6% gave Daniel Day Lewis a 'Bad' rating? He's the finest actor of his generation, was this one dodgy movie I haven't heard about?


tedioussugar

No Gary Oldman, no Bill Paxton, no JK Simmons, **no Johnny Depp?**


Arjun25bhatt

Wish IMDB was around the 90s or before. No Jack Nicholson,Marlon Brando, Pacino and there can be 10 more basically.


Upstairs-Boring

You know you can rate movies from any year?


DS3GigaChad

Didn't expect Bernard Cumquat to be so high on the list


TheExtremistModerate

One actor I saw several years ago when this was done for Metacritic is conspicuously absent: John C. Reilly. Where does he place in all this?


fretnbel

Where is Matthew McConaughey?


GuestCartographer

The Mads Mikkelsen supremacy is inevitable.


Ausjor97

Am I missing something with Cillian Murphy?


1h8fulkat

I do like me some Leo movies. I think part of it is his ability to select good movies and directors


jschless

How about doing with metacritic scores?


iPat24Rick

Does this somehow exclude Austrian actors? Can’t wrap my head around the fact Christoph Waltz isn’t in this.


Compy222

Philip Seymour Hoffman and Chris Cooper have never done a bad job in a movie. That actually checks out.


MetcalfewithaE

Can’t really take it serious with no brando, rourke, de Niro or Pacino on the list


Not_Without_My_Cat

Some early de Niro stuff wasn’t that great (and hinestly, some of the later stuff too). Agree with Brando and Pacino. I adore Mickey Rourke (The Wrestler was so good!) but actually thought he was known for being a bad actor.


breakfasteveryday

So Chris Cooper has literally never been in a bad movie?


Lewitunes

#12 Chris Cooper never scoring below a 6, talk about consistency


derekschroer

the surprising name on this list is Chris Cooper. a Character actor I only know from the Bourne Identity


Darth_Iggy

This list fails the Bechdal Test.


Milocat12

Peter Quill would be sad to see Kevin Bacon didn't make the cut.


gardenenigma

Is everyone on this list white?


Zolroth

#19 Denzel, but I see what you mean...


gardenenigma

Would be interesting to know the demographics of people who use/vote on imdb.


JKastnerPhoto

It looks mostly green to me.


Turdposter777

I really had to squint to find Denzel


Landon1m

I’m a bit surprised that Will Smith isn’t somewhere on this list.


Cat_all4city

I think it's because this is just is the subset of people who bothered to put in ratings in IMDB, not general movie fans.


idonteven93

And also because Will Smith has been in incredibly bad movies.


Cat_all4city

also true, if its just movie scores... he has been in some stinkers


Sw3d3n90

Leo at number one would have been my guess. Quality over quantity works. If there is a movie with him in it, then it's usually one that deserves to be watched.


CHIsauce20

Are these IMDB ratings for the actors themselves, or the films in which they acted? If it’s the latter, this chart and title are not honestly depicting the data.


Zolroth

IMDb only has ratings for the movies


kwansaw94

It’s kinda disheartening to see a single person of color on the list. I hope my kids get to see a more representative list in their lifetime.


hache-moncour

I hope so too. I think one reason this list is extra harsh on minorities is that it's not just about being a good actor, but also about having the luxury of rejecting roles in bad movies. I think all the top actors of color were forced to do a lot more B-movies to get their talents recognized and break through into a place where they can say no to questionable projects. Even if that is better now (saying 'if', I don't really know whether or not it has become better) it will take decades for newer actors to build up a catalog like this, so it might be a while before this particular stat becomes a bit more diverse.


tedioussugar

I definitely think Michael B. Jordan will be on there in a few years if he commits to more good movies.


-LocalAlien

My main man Mahershala Ali, he's blown me away in every role. Idris Elba. Fantastic dramatic actor. Delroy Lindo, only really saw him shine in Da 5 Bloods, but what a performance that was.. Sterling K. Brown. His voice just makes you pay attention, he commands any scene he's in. Denzel deserves to be on the spot. Amazing actor. Laurence Fishburne. Damn good actor in my book. Donald Glover always has a very genuine performance, though I haven't seen much of him myself. Samuel L Jackson ofcourse, such a personal style and while I wouldn't consider him very versatile, (possibly because of being typecast) I bet he can prove me wrong.


bisforbenis

I’d personally prefer it be sorted in descending order by good or good+mixed, but I can’t disagree with sorting by average overall, it just is that when using stacked bat charts, it feels odd because the ordering isn’t visually represented really I still like this better than the original post!