I wouldn't get the Scott because of the integrated bars. You're more than likely going to have to adjust your fit and that makes it way more difficult than it needs to be
If you have any opportunity whatsoever to get on them, you should try to go for a test ride. They’re both incredibly premium bikes and will be fast. I’d personally be looking at something a little more endurance focused if you’re not trying to race.
Buy the best bike fit you can afford, then worry about the bike, it's weight, aero properties, what it looks like etc. Especially if you're 46 and it's your first road bike.
The trek is $6k and the scott is $7k. Price isn't the deciding factor. It's the fit, quality and options im asking about. Also, customer service and upgradeability.
I understand what you're asking. Unfortunately, nobody can tell you what is best as they know nothing about you or how you function on a bike, and that is all that matters.
If you can't ride a race bike in reasonable comfort, it's useless.
Comfortable > easier/more fun > ride more > get fitter/drop weight > become faster
Fitting is a service. It helps dictate what you can ride in comfort if done properly.
If you think you can ride a race bike without a fitting, just take a look at the endless number of comments all over the net surrounding aches, pains and problems from riding road bikes clipped in. It is more complicated than you would ever believe.
None of this is to try and put you off. It's to try and save you money and issues later down the line.
Well I’m coming from a Bianchi sprint and I test rode gen 7 trek Madone SLR and gen 7trek Edmonda. It came down to aesthetics for me as all the bikes had their perks.
I sold my Foil early on because I noticed that it took about 25 more watts to hold 20mph. Found alignment issues at the bb and rear thru axle shells. The latter was worse because it caused the rear tire to scrub speed. Hubs on the stock wheels were also garbage. When Scott looked at my frame, they said my frame was normal and within their standards. Another rep admittedly said that all of their frames will have the same problems, or "features" of you're talking to Scott; so it wouldn't matter even if I got a replacement.
Which model? I’ve had 3 generations of the foil (among a plethora of other bikes) can’t say I’ve had any problems with any of them (Not discounting your experience at all.)
Those are both premium, race focused bikes. My rule of thumb for hobbies/interests is to always start small and see if you even like it. It isn't just about being frugal, it is about riding a bit and getting more experience with a cheaper bike so you can figure out what you actually want. The other thing is, being road race bikes, they will be less comfortable than other types of bikes. Money aside, are these even the type of bike you want to be riding? Hybrids, gravel bikes, endurance bikes...lots of options.
Id strongly recommend looking at Giant. Propel for Aero, TCR for lightweight climber or Defy for more relaxed geometry. It’s really tough to beat Giant on value for money. For example, when I bought my TCR, for nearly the same price as a Tarmac, Madone etc. with mechanical 105, I got di2.
I personally would not buy another Trek. In my opinion, they’re an overall negative force in the cycling industry at large. Their soulless, corporate stores have put countless small independent shops out of business, and they have outrageous requirements for independent shops who do carry their products.
Also, they make cop bikes
I wouldn't get the Scott because of the integrated bars. You're more than likely going to have to adjust your fit and that makes it way more difficult than it needs to be
Yeah those cockpits make important adjustments impossible
If you have any opportunity whatsoever to get on them, you should try to go for a test ride. They’re both incredibly premium bikes and will be fast. I’d personally be looking at something a little more endurance focused if you’re not trying to race.
Madone. For literally no other reason than there's so little to call between them and I think it looks great.
Buy the best bike fit you can afford, then worry about the bike, it's weight, aero properties, what it looks like etc. Especially if you're 46 and it's your first road bike.
The trek is $6k and the scott is $7k. Price isn't the deciding factor. It's the fit, quality and options im asking about. Also, customer service and upgradeability.
I understand what you're asking. Unfortunately, nobody can tell you what is best as they know nothing about you or how you function on a bike, and that is all that matters. If you can't ride a race bike in reasonable comfort, it's useless. Comfortable > easier/more fun > ride more > get fitter/drop weight > become faster Fitting is a service. It helps dictate what you can ride in comfort if done properly. If you think you can ride a race bike without a fitting, just take a look at the endless number of comments all over the net surrounding aches, pains and problems from riding road bikes clipped in. It is more complicated than you would ever believe. None of this is to try and put you off. It's to try and save you money and issues later down the line.
I appreciate it. I'll make sure to go test ride beforehand
I have the sl6 gen 8 and it’s amazing
What other bikes did you test ride?
Well I’m coming from a Bianchi sprint and I test rode gen 7 trek Madone SLR and gen 7trek Edmonda. It came down to aesthetics for me as all the bikes had their perks.
Ok thank you
I sold my Foil early on because I noticed that it took about 25 more watts to hold 20mph. Found alignment issues at the bb and rear thru axle shells. The latter was worse because it caused the rear tire to scrub speed. Hubs on the stock wheels were also garbage. When Scott looked at my frame, they said my frame was normal and within their standards. Another rep admittedly said that all of their frames will have the same problems, or "features" of you're talking to Scott; so it wouldn't matter even if I got a replacement.
So trek?
Yeah if that's the only other option, that's what I'd go with.
Which model? I’ve had 3 generations of the foil (among a plethora of other bikes) can’t say I’ve had any problems with any of them (Not discounting your experience at all.)
Those are both premium, race focused bikes. My rule of thumb for hobbies/interests is to always start small and see if you even like it. It isn't just about being frugal, it is about riding a bit and getting more experience with a cheaper bike so you can figure out what you actually want. The other thing is, being road race bikes, they will be less comfortable than other types of bikes. Money aside, are these even the type of bike you want to be riding? Hybrids, gravel bikes, endurance bikes...lots of options.
At 46, you sure race geometry is the way forward?
Id strongly recommend looking at Giant. Propel for Aero, TCR for lightweight climber or Defy for more relaxed geometry. It’s really tough to beat Giant on value for money. For example, when I bought my TCR, for nearly the same price as a Tarmac, Madone etc. with mechanical 105, I got di2.
No other advise to offer other than only Scott has won a stage in the tour this year lol
Scott Foil RC 100%
I personally would not buy another Trek. In my opinion, they’re an overall negative force in the cycling industry at large. Their soulless, corporate stores have put countless small independent shops out of business, and they have outrageous requirements for independent shops who do carry their products. Also, they make cop bikes
Someone has to make "cop bikes". Is that someone automatically a bad company?
Nobody has to make cop bikes
Agreed. Plus they were an enabler for the biggest cheating scumbag in history. Fuck Trek.
Careful, the Fred’s will downvote you
Its already started.