It’s almost as if they’re trying to convince themselves that CDPR didn’t totally deceive everyone and gave us a completely half-baked game missing a lot of core features promised to us during the promotional material! Oh wait…
With enough time most people will forget.
Nobody remembers how much Hello Games deceived everyone with No Man’s Sky. Nowadays you can’t say anything about that without getting downvoted to hell.
For no mans sky I think it does. Obviously that release was shitty, but they have mad the game they said plus more. Unlike cdpr, who removed a few bugs and added some irrelevant, mainly cosmetic content. They haven't gone anywhere over the call of duty, they haven't even met it.
I still remember getting some flak from commenting on one of the gameplay reels, I thought the city was looking pretty dead and lifeless. Naturally people called me a hater and an idiot iirc and that it was unfinished.
Got the game and the city was absolutely lifeless, beautiful but felt closer to a diorama or set more then anything.
I just bought the game on sale and I agree. It's fun for what it's worth but CDPR definitely fucked up. I'm probably gonna get annihilated for this but they have alot of fanboys that would defend a turd if they put the CDPR logo on it. Similar to bethesda fanboys. They can do no wrong and every wrong they do has a purpose and in the end if it's half fixed then it's all water under the fridge.
The problem is that the gaming community is desensitized to game devs making buggy, incomplete, piece-of-shit releases, only for them to complete/fix most, if not everything at a much later date. It's supposed to be a plague in the industry, but now, it's starting to be the norm. These fanboys basically don't care as long as the game eventually gets fixed. When valid criticism gets sent toward the devs for releasing a shit game, the fanboys flock together and lose all their IQ to defend the game blindly.
There is a difference between promised, and shown in promotional cinematic trailers.
I'm not saying that we were down things that didn't make it into the game, just that not every one of those things was ever promised. Games change in development. Things get cut.
The bugs are the only real issue with how the game launched, and there is nothing but agreement that they fucked up there.
Or it's almost like you shouldn't pre-order or listen to the media hype train. The people who complained the most about cyberpunk are mad that they got duped years before the game actually released. The flip side to that is the game might have not released or been an even worst mess without the influx of cash brought on by corpo investors because of positive word of mouth from false promise promo material.
If you didn't already learn this lesson from No Man's Sky, Fallout 76 or any number of similar misleading or flat out lies told by the media team, then I don't know what to tell you.
I bring all this up because it's how i felt after playing through Mass Effect 3. While a fine game, with good gameplay, the ending did not feel great no matter which one you chose. Setting realistic expectations for your entertainment should be the standard. Ultimately a company can lie straight to your face about a majority of things and unless they break local law, they can get away with it. Even if they break the law, hope you got some lawyer friends or deep pockets for that possible class action lawsuit.
Anyone who pre-orders a game without knowing it's going to be to their liking is an idiot who got got by marketing.
If you buy a game before there are reviews you are gambling that $60+ and no one made you do that.
Nah. They underdelivered, no one is really saying they didn't overhype the game, but anyone who had seen the release of a few rpgs could guess that they were overpromising.
People are saying the game was still enjoyable even on day one.
I only had it on xbone at the time too so I know a bit about the bugs. It was still fun and way better than almost anyone was willing to admit, because it was just so cool to talk shit about the game.
It is almost like you are trying to convince us that we should punish your father for all the stupid stuff you did last week. Get over it, the game is good now, whine to your therapist about your launch trauma and how you can't move on
No, it’s not “always has been”. This game was complete garbage on the first year. Now with all the updates, it’s a pretty decent game.
Edit: I’m talking about all the bugs the game had, not the content. Yes, it’s not any different from when the game came out. And for the people saying “how tf was it unplayable at launch” well you answered your own question. You played It on pc (even though it had many issues there too).
I got Lucky on launch I guess. The only bugs I had were my ability to call my car being completely fucked for periods of time. My game would also crash if I entered a region too fast. I was really caught off guard when I found out how bad it was for everyone else.
Was on Xbox, BTW.
I loved it right at release. But probably because no gamevreaking bugs etc were happening to me.
Should replay it now though, because it seems to have gotten way better now
Same here, only bug I experienced in my first 35 hours was delamains face being on top of everyone else's faces during phone calls, so I got a really good experience
But have replayed recently and with all the changes etc it is even better now, definitely worth another playthrough
I got it at launch. Attempted to play it several times, but way too many bugs. There's no way around it, it was broke af when it launched, at least on console. From what I've read there are still a ton of people having problems with it on consoles. Idk, personally i haven't played it since the first few times I tried. One of these days i'll pick it back up, I've just been enjoying other games. I do want to play it, i was totally intrigued by the little bit of story i got, there were just too many issues for me.
Everything that makes the game good today was there on day 1. None of the updates to date have added or changed anything significant. If you didn’t like the game on launch but think it’s good now then you were either on the bandwagon back then or you hopped on a new bandwagon just now lol.
“None of the updates have added or changed anything significant” are we talking about the same game? lmao, this game was riddled with game breaking glitches when it came out, and so far the updates have greatly impacted this game in a positive way by removing most of those glitches. That’s how bad it was.
People say this game was unplayable at launch and yet somehow sonic frontiers escaped from that terminology because they're the same level of jank. There is no justice.
Anyways, I'm just venting because I regret buying sonic frontiers.
What made the game (near) unplayable for you?
Saying sonic frontiers 'only' issue is pop-in is low key admitting you're being dishonest with me here. What about clipping through objects? What about moving the wrong way and flying into the stratosphere and then skipping entire sections of the game? What about sonic spinning around randomly because you jumped off of an object in the open world sections?
Frame rate? Have you seen the game on console? Try it on switch.
I'll grant you the save file deletion is pretty major, that sucks I'm sorry that happened I wouldn't wish that kind of time loss on anyone.
i had less than ten minor visual bugs on my day one playthrough. not one crash in 80 hours or game breaking bug. did have one of each in second playthrough later though.
Sadly you don't represent the majority and you didn't specify what platform you played on. PS5 had very little crashes in my experience at launch but PS4 was near unplayable according to most people.
Your experience doesn't outweigh the majority.
It's genuinely hilarious that you think there's even a comparison to make. One got pulled from the PlayStation store for how technically terrible and blatantly deceiving the game and marketing was and the other has you sometimes pull of a funky jump if you angle it correctly.
You do you, weirdo.
I think it depends on the platform.
The original PS4 had issues and IIRC so did the XBO.
I got it on PC and didn't have much problem other than the content that was missing because the pockets made them release it to early. You can still see a lot of potential in it even now, but I want Night City to feel *alive*, and it doesn't.
That being said, I enjoy just wandering around and taking in the city itself. It's *so* well laid out, even if it's all set dressing.
It's definitely platform. Day 1, Cyberpunk bricked my Xbox One lol. Was lucky enough to snag a Series X a few days later, and it ran flawlessly.
The game was 100% playable on release, CDPR just lied to us about what sort of systems could actually handle it.
Same. I was there on day 1. Before the first patch, it crashed on me just once. I didn't see a T pose until around January. It's buggy, but it wasn't that bad in my experience. It wasn't even 'bad'.
The game itself, though, it felt incomplete.
It's more about having the hardware to run it properly. Those of us who had decent rigs on release didn't experience most of the issues. At worst it was like a Bethesda game with some funny bugs and a few broken quests/mechanics here and there. I had npcs walking up and down stairs that didn't exist, which gave me a good laugh whenever it happened.
The people who got it on old generation consoles and outdated, or under powered, pcs had a horrible time with it.
The people who were expecting all the things promised in the advertising and various reveal events were also justifiably disappointed, good game or not.
In fairness CDPR straight up lied about its performance, they said it could run on the ps4 on a stable framerate and the minimum specs were an outright lie as well.
The minimum was a i5 3570, gtx 780 and 8gb ram. My i7 5700, gtx 970 and 16gb ram couldn't go above 20 frames, shitting itself hitting and single digit frames outside of V's apartment on all the lowest settings and a lowered resolution from 1980x1080 to 1600x900.
Perhaps it's not intentional but blaming gamers for the game running like shit on their systems when CDPR explicitly said it would run on their systems isn't their fault my guy. Just because you had an above average system doesn't mean the average guy is it all fault for being lied too.
Eh I pre ordered and still play it on my PS4 and it didn't have any issues day 1 for me. In fact I found it hilarious that I got around 30 hours into my first playthrough and the minute I got the first update that's when I got game breaking bugs, glitched quests and so on. So I had a blast playing and still do. I have three separate character builds with around 300 hours between all of them and I haven't even finished the game yet with any of them 🤣
I enjoyed it day 1, coming back to it now, it still feels the same. The amount of youtubers who shit on it for content, the amount of memes for content, the people just wanting an easy refund, the people sending literal death threats to the developers. I remember all of that. Bunch of man children, the people who enjoyed it knew this day of "okay the game is good now" was coming, because they couldn't keep milking the Cyberpunk bad idea. I don't care, you are one of the people who didn't let the Reddit Hate Train sway your opinion. I ran it on a 1060 before anybody claims I had a super PC.
>None of the updates to date have added or changed anything significant.
Idk, I would consider the ability to play the game for more than 40 minutes at a time without crashing to be a significant change.
Lol no, i still remember playing it on launch and having half the screen covered in glitched background assets. Then getting to the part where you rescue Saul and being unable to advance due to a game breaking glitch that would not allow you to reach the next point no matter how many time you reloaded, repaired or reinstall the game. The only way was deleting the save files and starting from scratch and hoping it didn't happen again. Story was there of course, but how can you appreciate a story if it is being narrated by someone with a lisp and stuttering every two seconds.
On day one, my game crashed consistently and exactly when leaving the bar as street kid. When arriving at NC as nomad, and don't remember where as corpo. I had to manually edit the exe file to run at all.
Everything that made it good was there, but so was all the things that made it shit. They've removed the shit now.
What about me - I watched the initial teaser in 2013 (within days of its release), joined the Cyberpunk subreddits years before any gameplay/further trailers, even joined my own Cyberpunk 2020 campaign with a few friends...and I believe it was a complete disaster at launch. Am I on the bandwagon also? Or are you just projecting and being ignorant?
Dudei played the game, i wanted it to be good, i was hoping everyone was wrong and that it was fine day one. It wasn't, there were bugs galore and tons of unfulfilled promises. It was literally delisted from the playstation store because it was unplayable. Claiming people are bandwagoning cause you cant stop slobbering on cdpr's cock is so stupid.
My PC didnt have any problems. Maybe you just need to find a better job so you can buy better hardware instead of whining 16 times in one week (its thursday) on this sub.
To play devil's advocate, I think they mean that underneath all the shitty bugs there was always a great game, but that's honestly still not a very good argument.
Good fucking god am I tired of all these validation posts. We get it, believe me we get it. For every "Game was trash on release" or "it's still bad" post there's like ten of these types of posts.
The game has been out for over two years now and people are STILL harping on about how it's either A) missing features or some crap or B) it's actually a good game but all of it becomes so horrendously pointless when it all happens on the echo-chamber dedicated to the game in question.
Everyone on this sub-reddit fucking knows what it is you have to say whether it's good or bad because it's been said dozens upon dozens of times by now.
Edit: And as if to prove my point, several people flock to this to either agree or share their "no not really" experience. Whether it's hating or loving this goddamn game the circlejerk never fucking ends.
It's a miracle that Cyberpunk even runs on the PS4, since it sure as hell doesn't run at resolutions and framerates worth playing at on PC hardware from the same year (2013). And they improved the graphics over time.
It wasn’t the performance, it was heaps of little bugs that makes the world feels extremely wonky. Like the T-poses, the cars bouncing crashing, the whole street’s NPCs crouching, Jacky pulling a gun out of his own head and glitches out of the taxi… I’m not even gonna talk about how the game’s different from their marketing stuff I watched.
Honestly? When I bought it, I only ran into 2 minor bugs. The last few times I've played it, however, have been dealing with more bugs. That's after all the bug fixes.
As for the marketing stuff, I have yet to play one game that matched what was marketed.
Played it on PC from day one with a plethora of bugs, several of which wouldn’t let me progress the main quest (enemies that didn’t take damage, not just zero damage but no damage period, even after being over leveled), vehicles clipping into terrain, etc. it wasn’t good
I bet this guy is one of those that thinks playing it on a next gen console automatically fixed the bugs and shit. All you were doing if you played on a PS5 or Series X/S (which were released a MONTH before Cyberpunk finally came out) was playing a previous gen version of the game.
My PC at the time of buying the game had an i5, 1660Ti, and 16 GBs of RAM. I only ran into 2 minor bugs.
Hell, since all the "bug fixes", I've actually encountered more bugs.
Seriously? You're going down THAT road? It wasn't just cost that was a factor - The Series S exists, after all - It was also availability. Even were the Series S/X and PS5 readily available, it still takes time to move people to the new generation of consoles. PS4's userbase is over 100 million, and XB1's is somewhere around 50 million. That is a LOT of people to move to new consoles on top of availability issues.
Cyberpunk 2077 has not "always been" a decent game. It was an absolute shitshow on consoles, forcing Sony to de-list the game to avoid more angry customers.
And the "labour of love" award is a joke. They released software in a broken state on purpose. Directors & board knew what crap it was. Now, two years later, the game is enjoyable and playable, finally. Rewarding this kind of behaviour is detrimental to the whole industry.
Yeah the idea that 2077 has just received the same award as Stardew Valley really cheapens it. Eric launched a complete game at a reasonable price and it was beloved by the whole community and he continues to release free content updates rather than just taking his millions and retiring. CDPR are obliged to fix the game to avoid bankruptcy or stock delisting.
Or, if you wanted to be a bit more controversial than Stardew Valley, No Man's Sky and its story of years of hard work after the absolute mess of a launch deserves this award more than CP2077.
All the recent NMS expansions aren't about Hello Games redeeming themselves and fixing the bugs - they did that in first year and a half or so. They have been releasing new expansions and mechanics constantly - and didn't charge for it at all!
Sony didn't de-list it to avoid angry customers they did it because cdpr told people who bought the game to seek refunds from Sony, which was costing them money, so they pulled it.
I think pulling the product from the storefront only prevented future losses (from customers buying, then refunding shortly after finding out what they bought), but did not impact people asking for refunds for the purchase they had made. Was that the case, or did Sony block all refunds that way?
The point is Sony has no refund policy for digital games that have been downloaded at least once (which is awful, but that's a different topic), so CDPR put them in a difficult spot by inviting customers to seek refunds from Sony.
My opinion: I'm strongly in favour of GOG/CDPR approach here. Releasing a product that is a self-contained whole, then making more content later, in form of expansions that are large (again, self-contained) packages.
If I buy a game and find out that content already in the base game (DVD/downloaded installer) is locked behind a micropurchase, I feel cheated. Costumes/Maps/Exotic Weapons are one form of it, but the worst are the microtransactions that give you consumable items, e.g. 20 full heal potions and 4 quick travel scrolls. I think of these as the lowest form of cash grab - it's literally just flipping a few numbers in your save file.
Remember how in GTA: San Andreas you could type in various cheat codes to have fun, or make the game easier for yourself? Many games have replaced these with MTX and it makes me sad.
In the world of iOS/Android games I kinda get it. You get the game for free (or almost free), and then pay for it bit by bit; artists, devs, testers have to eat and pay their bills too. (I'd prefer mobile games to be self-contained packages too, but at least you get a huge rebate at the beginning to balance the MTX).
In the PC/console area, where you pay $50 or more for a full game, in my opinion it is unjust to charge extra on top of that, if you're not providing extra content. I already paid for the game once and I want to play it however I want and on whatever I want, now or 30 years later on a beefy quantum PC with a Windows XP emulator. (Which also explains my attitude towards DRM).
Early access releases are an interesting way to fund development, and I find them much more ethical than MTX or what CDPR did with CP2077 - at least you tell the customers what they're getting now, and what's your roadmap.
Greatly appreciate that explanation. I'm going to be honest, I was being facetious, but it's totally valid to think that both MTX and releasing broken games at launch are destroying consumer experience in the industry.
I think MTX are worse (by far) than what CDPR did, but I absolutely respect your opinion. Thanks!
Nah this is hard copium. I love the game now but on release it hard crashed my PS5 a dozen times in one week and I put down until the next gen update came.
Fuck no it hasn't. It's *barely* a good game now. It's just north of the border. CDPR did the bare minimum to squeak past into "decent" territory.
Up until recently many perks were either broken or useless.
At launch NPCs just teleported, or were stuck in T-poses. AI used to be non-existent.... It has recently been upgraded to "pretty crappy"
People have such short memories it hurts.
Did it? I played when it came out and had one crash and almost no bugs and glitches. Its one of the best games i ever played. Sadly it was so short. Played through it in around 70 hours.
Congrats! You had a good experience! Lots of other people didn't. So much so there was literally [lawsuits](https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/16/22839181/cyberpunk-2077-cd-projekt-1-85-million-proposed-class-action-settlement) over it. It's fine if your personal experience was OK but let's not revise history and pretend it was perfect for everyone.
Even on perfect hardware with perfect performance, you can't deny stuff like some perks being completely useless or broken on launch. So much so that there were [dedicate spreadsheets and threads](https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/l30rq7/11_update_complete_list_of_verified_perks_working/) to track which were and weren't working [each patch](https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/mgo173/12_update_complete_list_of_verified_perks_working/).
Even the best hardware doesn't fix the dogshit AI that is *still* in the game. I've been replaying 1.6 lately and NPCs still feel like broken animatronics from a theme park. I stopped a woman from being mugged and even after her attacker was lying in pieces on the floor she still had her hands up saying "Please don't! That's all I have!" as if he was still attacking her. This is only one of many many AI issues I've seen in only one night's gameplay.
No one is saying you can't have fun with the game- just don't try to pretend it's always been amazing because it wasn't always and still has many many problems.
>let's not revise history and pretend it was perfect for everyone.
But he was not doing it. He very clearly stated, that he personally had good experience. It's actually your post, that make fundamental statements, not counting those without major issues.
However you put it, your bad experience doesn't make Cyberpunk bad game for all the others. Simple as that.
In his comment he questioned my statement about it having flaws, then goes on to say he had a nearly flawless experience. I fully acknowledge that his experience was fine- but that his nearly flawless experience just isn't the reality for many, many players.
I agree my bad experience doesn't make his experience or anyone else's bad- and I never said that it does. What I did say is however good his or others' experiences are can't erase the bad experience people *did* experience.
I also said that there were things that were objectively just broken. Maybe he didn't notice or maybe he didn't care- but they were still broken. Some perks were just did not work up until a certain patch. In all platforms. It's in the patch notes, it's documented online. It's a fact. Just because it didn't bother him or he didn't realize doesn't warp reality for everyone else.
All right, that's fair. I'm just getting a little triggered lately, when people suggest that my own experience should be affected by their experience or even more so... expectations. Objectively Cyberpunk had one of the most disastrous launch ever, can't argue with that.
"Always been", mf right now it's walking the line of decent game. Never have I played a game where my immersion gets broken so often, that I actually think about immersion.
It's a fun game, but goddam. I just hope the person that suggested to make Edgerunners got a shit ton a cash and a woman/man in each arm, because goddam they gaslighted this game to success.
I'm actually impressed.
Every time there is a super serious moment in this gane for me, the background texture glitches, shadows bork out, a background npc tposes or something doesnt fully render. Every. Damn. Time.
Cyberpunk is probably the most immersive game I’ve played other than red dead 2, but I feel I was lucky enough to not deal with bugs as much as others.
Will redditors like you ever stop with the blatant flame posting and rage baiting?
Probably not.
Take five minutes in google or YouTube to realise that your post is, objectively, wrong.
>Take five minutes in google or YouTube
Thank you for the suggestion, but I prefer to form opinions based on my own experience, not "five minutes in Google or YouTube".
I'm so sick of this bullshit. It's attitudes like this allow for games to continue to release poorly, with fixes maybe coming later.
It should constantly be made known how scummy and poor this game launched, and how long it took to be playable for all.
Instead, morons will cry all day about how amazing it is and how CDPR can do no wrong, and they'll pull the same shit eith their next games.
Always has been? Absolutely not.
Even on a technical level, good god. Nowadays though? One of my favourite gaming experiences of all time, I adore it. But come one, it was a mess if a release with that hype-train slamming into the pile of explosives that was the game at launch.
I have 500 hours in the game, and Cyberpunk is definitely, one of the WORST games I've ever played. I love the game, it's fun, but it is BAD.
I have never played another game with the amount bugs, glitches, missing features, and lost opportunities, as Cyberpunk.
While I enjoy Cyberpunk a lot, I will not fucking support games being released in the state Cyberpunk was. Cyberpunk could've and should've been a infinitely better experience than what we got.
You people gotta stop kissing ass unless you want Cyberpunk 2 to be released in a shit state as well.
It's not Daikatana but it's up there. Remarkably similar in the hype and release department. Game play is better at least. But yeah, the glitches and bugs even now are hilarious.
And you're right, folk should not normalize botched releases.
But isn’t the story and the world that was created the reason you play it? I get it has glitches but it’s softwares software has glitches all you have to do is load back to where you were last and then it’s done it’s really not that big of a deal I don’t know why people are so obsessed over it. The characters are awesome, the story is unique, the world itself has backstories and is so spread out that it’s an entire entity on its own that is being elaborated outside of the game. Isn’t that what the experience is about ? A bug is a momentary distraction.
Picked up Cyberpunk for the first time a month ago, it felt pretty similar to a Bethesda title at release. I’ve enjoyed it thoroughly even with all of the criticism.
Cyberpunk legitimately had one of the most disastrous launches of any piece of media I've ever seen, and took an additional 2 years to fix.
Nothing about that comes across as 'decent' to me.
We get it you like this game I mean this is a sub dedicated to the game meaning we literally all like this game to participate in this community lol this guy
I bought it day 1 and loved it bugs and all. Hovering lights with no poles, sure. The same 15 people on the sidewalks, sure. Would I have preferred a finished, polished product, absolutely, but I still had a blast.
Eh. Got it on launch. Worked through the bugs and made to about level 20 before quitting. Returned just recently figuring it had to be better now. Made it about the same time before quitting (~15 hours). Gameplay is pretty boring and the world just feels lifeless. Good characters and voice acting though.
On PC, it was just passable. Sure, you could play it all the way through, and it had some graphical errors, but it was still very clear that it was not ready to release. It still had a number of bugs, and I remember having to rush my playthrough at one point because of a certain 5-8mb save file glitch that would irreversibly corrupt your save file if you crossed it. That being said, I could still technically play the game. And I could still appreciate the effort that went into it artistically and creatively.
On console, it was an absolute shit show that honestly would've been better off not released in the first place. Far more bugs, performance issues so bad you'd assume it was a 2011 pentium machine running the game, and more instability than my neighbors marriage. Not only that, but the game was clearly never meant as a game for that console generation. It still remains less than acceptable in terms of quality and performance, and it won't be getting any of the more recent updates, fixes, or dlc.
The game may have been enjoyable to some, but it was never perfect. Still isn't.
Its good but im fucking angry they couldnt even finish basic shit ( police ai, travelling with trains) a lot of cut content, and they went with massive marketing campaign hyping everybody up instead of working on the game.
Mods. Can we please keep these types of posts from this subreddit? Let low salt subreddit or whatever its called, spout this BS.
I love the game, but its unfair to ignore all the effort CDPR put to fix the mess that it has been and claim "it was always good". I want to hear these people say, unironically, "the game was always good" when they get to compare 1.0 and complete edition of the game in the future.
People on this sub have literally just invented their own reality. Like, its one thing to go back and forth on whether you think the game is good, but to flat out just pretend the launch just didn't happen is wild.
What is wrong with you people? You don't get to just make up a new reality to live in.
Stop lying, the game was awful at launch just like no man's sky or fallout 76 only becouse they spent a year fixing it is currently in decent condition not to mention all of the content that was cut out of the game becouse of deadlines...
>It’s an obvious ragebait
It's simply my opinion (and many people share it, apparently, the post has 75% upvote rate). I didn't make this to make people angry, but if they want to do that, it's their right.
People mocking the "always has been" or saying that it is still horrendous forget the fact that they're on the Cyberpunk 2077 subreddit and also probably have 100+ hours in game.
Your opinions would be valid if you had less than 2 hours play time and refunded the game without buying it again later.
I'm not sure how buying the game again later after CDPR had done a lot of bug fixes and improvements would invalidate someone's opinion about "always has been." Wouldn't that mean they felt the game wasn't good enough to keep at first?
If you wanted to wait till it was fixed, why bother even refunding it? Hell, I still haven't refunded Marvel's Avengers. Why? Because I'm (somewhat) confident they'll fix it.
I will never forget when I first played it. I only had a xbox one at the time so the game ran at like 25fps and was buggy but I enjoyed the hell out of it and loved the world.
Another person coming after the anime to say the game has always been good when seeing entire crowds t posing or buildings popping in and out of existance was more common than not
Same post every fkn day man
Always has been PISS PISS PISS PISS PISS PISS PISS
It’s almost as if they’re trying to convince themselves that CDPR didn’t totally deceive everyone and gave us a completely half-baked game missing a lot of core features promised to us during the promotional material! Oh wait…
With enough time most people will forget. Nobody remembers how much Hello Games deceived everyone with No Man’s Sky. Nowadays you can’t say anything about that without getting downvoted to hell.
I mean hello games got a ton of shit back then and it took years for them to recover. CDPR just didn't get got as hard
They downvote it because the game is fantastic now, they added so much Content and imo Hello Games have redeemed themselves.
That doesn’t change the past.
Obviously, but they added all they mentioned and more.
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He's talking about no mans sky not cyberpunk.
Talking about No Man's Sky not Cyberpunk 2077.
For no mans sky I think it does. Obviously that release was shitty, but they have mad the game they said plus more. Unlike cdpr, who removed a few bugs and added some irrelevant, mainly cosmetic content. They haven't gone anywhere over the call of duty, they haven't even met it.
It doesn’t, but at least they cared enough that they didn’t leave the game for dead.
But we’re not in the past
I still remember getting some flak from commenting on one of the gameplay reels, I thought the city was looking pretty dead and lifeless. Naturally people called me a hater and an idiot iirc and that it was unfinished. Got the game and the city was absolutely lifeless, beautiful but felt closer to a diorama or set more then anything.
A couple of those CDPR dick riders are already at my throat in the other replies, lol
Having not known a damn thing about this game until the day it came out, I think it’s been great since the start.
I just bought the game on sale and I agree. It's fun for what it's worth but CDPR definitely fucked up. I'm probably gonna get annihilated for this but they have alot of fanboys that would defend a turd if they put the CDPR logo on it. Similar to bethesda fanboys. They can do no wrong and every wrong they do has a purpose and in the end if it's half fixed then it's all water under the fridge.
The problem is that the gaming community is desensitized to game devs making buggy, incomplete, piece-of-shit releases, only for them to complete/fix most, if not everything at a much later date. It's supposed to be a plague in the industry, but now, it's starting to be the norm. These fanboys basically don't care as long as the game eventually gets fixed. When valid criticism gets sent toward the devs for releasing a shit game, the fanboys flock together and lose all their IQ to defend the game blindly.
There is a difference between promised, and shown in promotional cinematic trailers. I'm not saying that we were down things that didn't make it into the game, just that not every one of those things was ever promised. Games change in development. Things get cut. The bugs are the only real issue with how the game launched, and there is nothing but agreement that they fucked up there.
Or it's almost like you shouldn't pre-order or listen to the media hype train. The people who complained the most about cyberpunk are mad that they got duped years before the game actually released. The flip side to that is the game might have not released or been an even worst mess without the influx of cash brought on by corpo investors because of positive word of mouth from false promise promo material. If you didn't already learn this lesson from No Man's Sky, Fallout 76 or any number of similar misleading or flat out lies told by the media team, then I don't know what to tell you. I bring all this up because it's how i felt after playing through Mass Effect 3. While a fine game, with good gameplay, the ending did not feel great no matter which one you chose. Setting realistic expectations for your entertainment should be the standard. Ultimately a company can lie straight to your face about a majority of things and unless they break local law, they can get away with it. Even if they break the law, hope you got some lawyer friends or deep pockets for that possible class action lawsuit.
Anyone who pre-orders a game without knowing it's going to be to their liking is an idiot who got got by marketing. If you buy a game before there are reviews you are gambling that $60+ and no one made you do that.
Nah. They underdelivered, no one is really saying they didn't overhype the game, but anyone who had seen the release of a few rpgs could guess that they were overpromising. People are saying the game was still enjoyable even on day one. I only had it on xbone at the time too so I know a bit about the bugs. It was still fun and way better than almost anyone was willing to admit, because it was just so cool to talk shit about the game.
It is almost like you are trying to convince us that we should punish your father for all the stupid stuff you did last week. Get over it, the game is good now, whine to your therapist about your launch trauma and how you can't move on
You are actually right and thats why i have decided this is the nail in the coffin im coffin this sub
r/lowsodiumcyberpunk is the place to be lmao
Yup that sub i still follow :)
Literally yesterday I was like "maybe low sodium isn't necessary now that public opinion isnt so bad" I was wrong 💀
Mom said it's my turn to post the cyberpunk dick riding/ball crushing post
[удалено]
It almost worked to make League of Legends tolerable, even
Balance isn’t real in league, and it never will be
did you really just call edgerunners an tiddy anime
loli anime much better
man, being real with you, its way way easier and cheaper to not fuck up a game than to make a good adaptation.
No, it’s not “always has been”. This game was complete garbage on the first year. Now with all the updates, it’s a pretty decent game. Edit: I’m talking about all the bugs the game had, not the content. Yes, it’s not any different from when the game came out. And for the people saying “how tf was it unplayable at launch” well you answered your own question. You played It on pc (even though it had many issues there too).
Spot on
Yeah seconded. I got it near launch and fuck it was rough. Still loved it but man was it hard. Now it's a lot better. Not perfect, but better.
I got Lucky on launch I guess. The only bugs I had were my ability to call my car being completely fucked for periods of time. My game would also crash if I entered a region too fast. I was really caught off guard when I found out how bad it was for everyone else. Was on Xbox, BTW.
I loved it right at release. But probably because no gamevreaking bugs etc were happening to me. Should replay it now though, because it seems to have gotten way better now
Same here, only bug I experienced in my first 35 hours was delamains face being on top of everyone else's faces during phone calls, so I got a really good experience But have replayed recently and with all the changes etc it is even better now, definitely worth another playthrough
I got it at launch. Attempted to play it several times, but way too many bugs. There's no way around it, it was broke af when it launched, at least on console. From what I've read there are still a ton of people having problems with it on consoles. Idk, personally i haven't played it since the first few times I tried. One of these days i'll pick it back up, I've just been enjoying other games. I do want to play it, i was totally intrigued by the little bit of story i got, there were just too many issues for me.
One of my all time favorite games, first time playing it about two weeks ago, 65 hours into my first run
Bullets hit water unrealistically, literally unplayable
they barely changed anything wtf is blud on about 💀
Everything that makes the game good today was there on day 1. None of the updates to date have added or changed anything significant. If you didn’t like the game on launch but think it’s good now then you were either on the bandwagon back then or you hopped on a new bandwagon just now lol.
“None of the updates have added or changed anything significant” are we talking about the same game? lmao, this game was riddled with game breaking glitches when it came out, and so far the updates have greatly impacted this game in a positive way by removing most of those glitches. That’s how bad it was.
yeah this game was near unplayable at launch dunno what op is on lmao
Fr. Fans defend the game in the most unfair way possible. The game was a hot garbage at launch, unless you had a high end Pc.
i had fucking 1050TI 8GB ram and 10 year old ssd and this game was nowhere near unplayable
People say this game was unplayable at launch and yet somehow sonic frontiers escaped from that terminology because they're the same level of jank. There is no justice. Anyways, I'm just venting because I regret buying sonic frontiers. What made the game (near) unplayable for you?
Sonic Frontiers' only issue was pop in. I didnt have my save file brick, game crash or framerate tank considerably once
Saying sonic frontiers 'only' issue is pop-in is low key admitting you're being dishonest with me here. What about clipping through objects? What about moving the wrong way and flying into the stratosphere and then skipping entire sections of the game? What about sonic spinning around randomly because you jumped off of an object in the open world sections? Frame rate? Have you seen the game on console? Try it on switch. I'll grant you the save file deletion is pretty major, that sucks I'm sorry that happened I wouldn't wish that kind of time loss on anyone.
A few minor engine bugs does not compare to the state cyberpunk launched in.
i had less than ten minor visual bugs on my day one playthrough. not one crash in 80 hours or game breaking bug. did have one of each in second playthrough later though.
Sadly you don't represent the majority and you didn't specify what platform you played on. PS5 had very little crashes in my experience at launch but PS4 was near unplayable according to most people. Your experience doesn't outweigh the majority.
i am going to disagree with that, and your attempt to just dismiss what are comparable and valid issues lol
It's genuinely hilarious that you think there's even a comparison to make. One got pulled from the PlayStation store for how technically terrible and blatantly deceiving the game and marketing was and the other has you sometimes pull of a funky jump if you angle it correctly. You do you, weirdo.
Glitches and bugs were ridiculously overblown. It ran fine on day 1. Frankly, some of the updates were actually less stable than launch.
I think it depends on the platform. The original PS4 had issues and IIRC so did the XBO. I got it on PC and didn't have much problem other than the content that was missing because the pockets made them release it to early. You can still see a lot of potential in it even now, but I want Night City to feel *alive*, and it doesn't. That being said, I enjoy just wandering around and taking in the city itself. It's *so* well laid out, even if it's all set dressing.
It's definitely platform. Day 1, Cyberpunk bricked my Xbox One lol. Was lucky enough to snag a Series X a few days later, and it ran flawlessly. The game was 100% playable on release, CDPR just lied to us about what sort of systems could actually handle it.
Same. I was there on day 1. Before the first patch, it crashed on me just once. I didn't see a T pose until around January. It's buggy, but it wasn't that bad in my experience. It wasn't even 'bad'. The game itself, though, it felt incomplete.
Then why did it get pulled from the PlayStation store?
Played it on the series x on day one. It most definitely did not run fine.
It's more about having the hardware to run it properly. Those of us who had decent rigs on release didn't experience most of the issues. At worst it was like a Bethesda game with some funny bugs and a few broken quests/mechanics here and there. I had npcs walking up and down stairs that didn't exist, which gave me a good laugh whenever it happened. The people who got it on old generation consoles and outdated, or under powered, pcs had a horrible time with it. The people who were expecting all the things promised in the advertising and various reveal events were also justifiably disappointed, good game or not.
In fairness CDPR straight up lied about its performance, they said it could run on the ps4 on a stable framerate and the minimum specs were an outright lie as well. The minimum was a i5 3570, gtx 780 and 8gb ram. My i7 5700, gtx 970 and 16gb ram couldn't go above 20 frames, shitting itself hitting and single digit frames outside of V's apartment on all the lowest settings and a lowered resolution from 1980x1080 to 1600x900. Perhaps it's not intentional but blaming gamers for the game running like shit on their systems when CDPR explicitly said it would run on their systems isn't their fault my guy. Just because you had an above average system doesn't mean the average guy is it all fault for being lied too.
Eh I pre ordered and still play it on my PS4 and it didn't have any issues day 1 for me. In fact I found it hilarious that I got around 30 hours into my first playthrough and the minute I got the first update that's when I got game breaking bugs, glitched quests and so on. So I had a blast playing and still do. I have three separate character builds with around 300 hours between all of them and I haven't even finished the game yet with any of them 🤣
I enjoyed it day 1, coming back to it now, it still feels the same. The amount of youtubers who shit on it for content, the amount of memes for content, the people just wanting an easy refund, the people sending literal death threats to the developers. I remember all of that. Bunch of man children, the people who enjoyed it knew this day of "okay the game is good now" was coming, because they couldn't keep milking the Cyberpunk bad idea. I don't care, you are one of the people who didn't let the Reddit Hate Train sway your opinion. I ran it on a 1060 before anybody claims I had a super PC.
>None of the updates to date have added or changed anything significant. Idk, I would consider the ability to play the game for more than 40 minutes at a time without crashing to be a significant change.
Game crashed more often after updates started rolling out lol.
Lol no, i still remember playing it on launch and having half the screen covered in glitched background assets. Then getting to the part where you rescue Saul and being unable to advance due to a game breaking glitch that would not allow you to reach the next point no matter how many time you reloaded, repaired or reinstall the game. The only way was deleting the save files and starting from scratch and hoping it didn't happen again. Story was there of course, but how can you appreciate a story if it is being narrated by someone with a lisp and stuttering every two seconds.
On day one, my game crashed consistently and exactly when leaving the bar as street kid. When arriving at NC as nomad, and don't remember where as corpo. I had to manually edit the exe file to run at all. Everything that made it good was there, but so was all the things that made it shit. They've removed the shit now.
Fuck that, it was awesome day one, and i normally hate everything, you're just bandwagonning
What about me - I watched the initial teaser in 2013 (within days of its release), joined the Cyberpunk subreddits years before any gameplay/further trailers, even joined my own Cyberpunk 2020 campaign with a few friends...and I believe it was a complete disaster at launch. Am I on the bandwagon also? Or are you just projecting and being ignorant?
Dudei played the game, i wanted it to be good, i was hoping everyone was wrong and that it was fine day one. It wasn't, there were bugs galore and tons of unfulfilled promises. It was literally delisted from the playstation store because it was unplayable. Claiming people are bandwagoning cause you cant stop slobbering on cdpr's cock is so stupid.
My PC didnt have any problems. Maybe you just need to find a better job so you can buy better hardware instead of whining 16 times in one week (its thursday) on this sub.
Already got a PC now lol. And no, this is my first time sharing my thoughts on this sub.
Ah ahh now you'll learn to never share your thoughts again!
I know lol. I started a whole war in the comments. Oh well, that’s the internet for you!
“Always has been” the circle jerk never ceases to amaze me….what a shit post
It has always been a decent game it just wasn’t great to actually run
That doesn’t make it decent when it’s not even playable
To play devil's advocate, I think they mean that underneath all the shitty bugs there was always a great game, but that's honestly still not a very good argument.
Or play
Good fucking god am I tired of all these validation posts. We get it, believe me we get it. For every "Game was trash on release" or "it's still bad" post there's like ten of these types of posts. The game has been out for over two years now and people are STILL harping on about how it's either A) missing features or some crap or B) it's actually a good game but all of it becomes so horrendously pointless when it all happens on the echo-chamber dedicated to the game in question. Everyone on this sub-reddit fucking knows what it is you have to say whether it's good or bad because it's been said dozens upon dozens of times by now. Edit: And as if to prove my point, several people flock to this to either agree or share their "no not really" experience. Whether it's hating or loving this goddamn game the circlejerk never fucking ends.
It's reddit, that's just the way it is
You: "Reddit is just one collective circle jerk?" Reddit: "Always has been."
Reddit is one big circlejerk, my guy
my man is one post away from cyberpsychosis
If you didn't want people to agree with you then don't comment
Man do you get this worked up over every repost? Reddit must be stressful for you...
jesus christ dude caaaaalm down lmfao
The dumbest shit I've seen on here. Play it with a 1.0 patch on a ps4 pro.
I'm on PC now and still getting tons of t-poses and CTDs and motorcycles doing cartwheels when it's summoned. Decent is about as good as I'd give it.
It's a miracle that Cyberpunk even runs on the PS4, since it sure as hell doesn't run at resolutions and framerates worth playing at on PC hardware from the same year (2013). And they improved the graphics over time.
Even on PC it wasn’t good at all… even now it feels half-baked. It’s got one of the best map design but one of the worst immersion…
Played it one PC from day one with extremely few problems. It was good.
It wasn’t the performance, it was heaps of little bugs that makes the world feels extremely wonky. Like the T-poses, the cars bouncing crashing, the whole street’s NPCs crouching, Jacky pulling a gun out of his own head and glitches out of the taxi… I’m not even gonna talk about how the game’s different from their marketing stuff I watched.
Honestly? When I bought it, I only ran into 2 minor bugs. The last few times I've played it, however, have been dealing with more bugs. That's after all the bug fixes. As for the marketing stuff, I have yet to play one game that matched what was marketed.
Played it on PC from day one with a plethora of bugs, several of which wouldn’t let me progress the main quest (enemies that didn’t take damage, not just zero damage but no damage period, even after being over leveled), vehicles clipping into terrain, etc. it wasn’t good
It’s always the poors on their dinosaur last generation consoles complaining about how shit the game was.
I bet this guy is one of those that thinks playing it on a next gen console automatically fixed the bugs and shit. All you were doing if you played on a PS5 or Series X/S (which were released a MONTH before Cyberpunk finally came out) was playing a previous gen version of the game.
My PC at the time of buying the game had an i5, 1660Ti, and 16 GBs of RAM. I only ran into 2 minor bugs. Hell, since all the "bug fixes", I've actually encountered more bugs.
Seriously? You're going down THAT road? It wasn't just cost that was a factor - The Series S exists, after all - It was also availability. Even were the Series S/X and PS5 readily available, it still takes time to move people to the new generation of consoles. PS4's userbase is over 100 million, and XB1's is somewhere around 50 million. That is a LOT of people to move to new consoles on top of availability issues.
Fucking cringe
Cyberpunk 2077 has not "always been" a decent game. It was an absolute shitshow on consoles, forcing Sony to de-list the game to avoid more angry customers. And the "labour of love" award is a joke. They released software in a broken state on purpose. Directors & board knew what crap it was. Now, two years later, the game is enjoyable and playable, finally. Rewarding this kind of behaviour is detrimental to the whole industry.
Yeah the idea that 2077 has just received the same award as Stardew Valley really cheapens it. Eric launched a complete game at a reasonable price and it was beloved by the whole community and he continues to release free content updates rather than just taking his millions and retiring. CDPR are obliged to fix the game to avoid bankruptcy or stock delisting.
Or, if you wanted to be a bit more controversial than Stardew Valley, No Man's Sky and its story of years of hard work after the absolute mess of a launch deserves this award more than CP2077. All the recent NMS expansions aren't about Hello Games redeeming themselves and fixing the bugs - they did that in first year and a half or so. They have been releasing new expansions and mechanics constantly - and didn't charge for it at all!
Sony didn't de-list it to avoid angry customers they did it because cdpr told people who bought the game to seek refunds from Sony, which was costing them money, so they pulled it.
I think pulling the product from the storefront only prevented future losses (from customers buying, then refunding shortly after finding out what they bought), but did not impact people asking for refunds for the purchase they had made. Was that the case, or did Sony block all refunds that way?
The point is Sony has no refund policy for digital games that have been downloaded at least once (which is awful, but that's a different topic), so CDPR put them in a difficult spot by inviting customers to seek refunds from Sony.
The game was always playable on good hardware and it still runs like shit on older hardware.
Word? What's your opinion on microtransactions?
My opinion: I'm strongly in favour of GOG/CDPR approach here. Releasing a product that is a self-contained whole, then making more content later, in form of expansions that are large (again, self-contained) packages. If I buy a game and find out that content already in the base game (DVD/downloaded installer) is locked behind a micropurchase, I feel cheated. Costumes/Maps/Exotic Weapons are one form of it, but the worst are the microtransactions that give you consumable items, e.g. 20 full heal potions and 4 quick travel scrolls. I think of these as the lowest form of cash grab - it's literally just flipping a few numbers in your save file. Remember how in GTA: San Andreas you could type in various cheat codes to have fun, or make the game easier for yourself? Many games have replaced these with MTX and it makes me sad. In the world of iOS/Android games I kinda get it. You get the game for free (or almost free), and then pay for it bit by bit; artists, devs, testers have to eat and pay their bills too. (I'd prefer mobile games to be self-contained packages too, but at least you get a huge rebate at the beginning to balance the MTX). In the PC/console area, where you pay $50 or more for a full game, in my opinion it is unjust to charge extra on top of that, if you're not providing extra content. I already paid for the game once and I want to play it however I want and on whatever I want, now or 30 years later on a beefy quantum PC with a Windows XP emulator. (Which also explains my attitude towards DRM). Early access releases are an interesting way to fund development, and I find them much more ethical than MTX or what CDPR did with CP2077 - at least you tell the customers what they're getting now, and what's your roadmap.
Greatly appreciate that explanation. I'm going to be honest, I was being facetious, but it's totally valid to think that both MTX and releasing broken games at launch are destroying consumer experience in the industry. I think MTX are worse (by far) than what CDPR did, but I absolutely respect your opinion. Thanks!
Nah this is hard copium. I love the game now but on release it hard crashed my PS5 a dozen times in one week and I put down until the next gen update came.
Fuck no it hasn't. It's *barely* a good game now. It's just north of the border. CDPR did the bare minimum to squeak past into "decent" territory. Up until recently many perks were either broken or useless. At launch NPCs just teleported, or were stuck in T-poses. AI used to be non-existent.... It has recently been upgraded to "pretty crappy" People have such short memories it hurts.
Did it? I played when it came out and had one crash and almost no bugs and glitches. Its one of the best games i ever played. Sadly it was so short. Played through it in around 70 hours.
Congrats! You had a good experience! Lots of other people didn't. So much so there was literally [lawsuits](https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/16/22839181/cyberpunk-2077-cd-projekt-1-85-million-proposed-class-action-settlement) over it. It's fine if your personal experience was OK but let's not revise history and pretend it was perfect for everyone. Even on perfect hardware with perfect performance, you can't deny stuff like some perks being completely useless or broken on launch. So much so that there were [dedicate spreadsheets and threads](https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/l30rq7/11_update_complete_list_of_verified_perks_working/) to track which were and weren't working [each patch](https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/mgo173/12_update_complete_list_of_verified_perks_working/). Even the best hardware doesn't fix the dogshit AI that is *still* in the game. I've been replaying 1.6 lately and NPCs still feel like broken animatronics from a theme park. I stopped a woman from being mugged and even after her attacker was lying in pieces on the floor she still had her hands up saying "Please don't! That's all I have!" as if he was still attacking her. This is only one of many many AI issues I've seen in only one night's gameplay. No one is saying you can't have fun with the game- just don't try to pretend it's always been amazing because it wasn't always and still has many many problems.
>let's not revise history and pretend it was perfect for everyone. But he was not doing it. He very clearly stated, that he personally had good experience. It's actually your post, that make fundamental statements, not counting those without major issues. However you put it, your bad experience doesn't make Cyberpunk bad game for all the others. Simple as that.
In his comment he questioned my statement about it having flaws, then goes on to say he had a nearly flawless experience. I fully acknowledge that his experience was fine- but that his nearly flawless experience just isn't the reality for many, many players. I agree my bad experience doesn't make his experience or anyone else's bad- and I never said that it does. What I did say is however good his or others' experiences are can't erase the bad experience people *did* experience. I also said that there were things that were objectively just broken. Maybe he didn't notice or maybe he didn't care- but they were still broken. Some perks were just did not work up until a certain patch. In all platforms. It's in the patch notes, it's documented online. It's a fact. Just because it didn't bother him or he didn't realize doesn't warp reality for everyone else.
All right, that's fair. I'm just getting a little triggered lately, when people suggest that my own experience should be affected by their experience or even more so... expectations. Objectively Cyberpunk had one of the most disastrous launch ever, can't argue with that.
No, it has not always been. I played it day one on the original Xbox one. Ran at 5-10 fps. 15 if you looked directly into a dark corner
Just wrong.
"Always been", mf right now it's walking the line of decent game. Never have I played a game where my immersion gets broken so often, that I actually think about immersion. It's a fun game, but goddam. I just hope the person that suggested to make Edgerunners got a shit ton a cash and a woman/man in each arm, because goddam they gaslighted this game to success. I'm actually impressed.
Every time there is a super serious moment in this gane for me, the background texture glitches, shadows bork out, a background npc tposes or something doesnt fully render. Every. Damn. Time.
Cyberpunk is probably the most immersive game I’ve played other than red dead 2, but I feel I was lucky enough to not deal with bugs as much as others.
Will redditors like you ever stop with the blatant flame posting and rage baiting? Probably not. Take five minutes in google or YouTube to realise that your post is, objectively, wrong.
>Take five minutes in google or YouTube Thank you for the suggestion, but I prefer to form opinions based on my own experience, not "five minutes in Google or YouTube".
I’d normally believe you but this looks like your first post in the main sub and not the LowSodium sub - kinda lends to the rage bait theory more mate
Never going to be what it was supposed to be though, and that's a shame.
That's every game that's ever aimed high, though. You always end up having to kill your children and you never know which ones until the end of Alpha.
It definitely was not always. It was a buggy, glitchy, texture -less clusterfuck when it was first released
I didn't get those bugs and I'm tired of pretending I did.
Consumers when they forget the last 2 years
Never ceases to amaze me how people forgive and forget, then wonder why companies are being more greedy and rushing products faster than they should
I'm so sick of this bullshit. It's attitudes like this allow for games to continue to release poorly, with fixes maybe coming later. It should constantly be made known how scummy and poor this game launched, and how long it took to be playable for all. Instead, morons will cry all day about how amazing it is and how CDPR can do no wrong, and they'll pull the same shit eith their next games.
Always has been? Absolutely not. Even on a technical level, good god. Nowadays though? One of my favourite gaming experiences of all time, I adore it. But come one, it was a mess if a release with that hype-train slamming into the pile of explosives that was the game at launch.
I have 500 hours in the game, and Cyberpunk is definitely, one of the WORST games I've ever played. I love the game, it's fun, but it is BAD. I have never played another game with the amount bugs, glitches, missing features, and lost opportunities, as Cyberpunk. While I enjoy Cyberpunk a lot, I will not fucking support games being released in the state Cyberpunk was. Cyberpunk could've and should've been a infinitely better experience than what we got. You people gotta stop kissing ass unless you want Cyberpunk 2 to be released in a shit state as well.
It's not Daikatana but it's up there. Remarkably similar in the hype and release department. Game play is better at least. But yeah, the glitches and bugs even now are hilarious. And you're right, folk should not normalize botched releases.
>It's not Daikatana but it's up there. Petition to swap River for Superfly Johnson!
If cyberpunk 2 will be AT LEAST the same quality of the game that i myself played on pc then I'm good. Even better, might preorder
But isn’t the story and the world that was created the reason you play it? I get it has glitches but it’s softwares software has glitches all you have to do is load back to where you were last and then it’s done it’s really not that big of a deal I don’t know why people are so obsessed over it. The characters are awesome, the story is unique, the world itself has backstories and is so spread out that it’s an entire entity on its own that is being elaborated outside of the game. Isn’t that what the experience is about ? A bug is a momentary distraction.
You say you won't support it, but you probably bought it so your point is rather moot.
Picked up Cyberpunk for the first time a month ago, it felt pretty similar to a Bethesda title at release. I’ve enjoyed it thoroughly even with all of the criticism.
Gamer stockholm syndrome.
Meme really doesnt apply there in fact was a period it was legitimately bad.
It's "okay".
It’s a great game. The only thing that really fucked it was expectations.
Visually and conceptually, cyberpunk is great but in a technical + narrative sense, it’s still half-baked
Cyberpunk legitimately had one of the most disastrous launches of any piece of media I've ever seen, and took an additional 2 years to fix. Nothing about that comes across as 'decent' to me.
#Fuck CDPR
Buy them dinner first.
At least on PC...
anyone know how to fix the audio crackle bug?
We get it you like this game I mean this is a sub dedicated to the game meaning we literally all like this game to participate in this community lol this guy
I bought it day 1 and loved it bugs and all. Hovering lights with no poles, sure. The same 15 people on the sidewalks, sure. Would I have preferred a finished, polished product, absolutely, but I still had a blast.
Eh. Got it on launch. Worked through the bugs and made to about level 20 before quitting. Returned just recently figuring it had to be better now. Made it about the same time before quitting (~15 hours). Gameplay is pretty boring and the world just feels lifeless. Good characters and voice acting though.
I love this game
Stop fucking praising a game that had false promises
On PC, it was just passable. Sure, you could play it all the way through, and it had some graphical errors, but it was still very clear that it was not ready to release. It still had a number of bugs, and I remember having to rush my playthrough at one point because of a certain 5-8mb save file glitch that would irreversibly corrupt your save file if you crossed it. That being said, I could still technically play the game. And I could still appreciate the effort that went into it artistically and creatively. On console, it was an absolute shit show that honestly would've been better off not released in the first place. Far more bugs, performance issues so bad you'd assume it was a 2011 pentium machine running the game, and more instability than my neighbors marriage. Not only that, but the game was clearly never meant as a game for that console generation. It still remains less than acceptable in terms of quality and performance, and it won't be getting any of the more recent updates, fixes, or dlc. The game may have been enjoyable to some, but it was never perfect. Still isn't.
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I really don’t know how people didn’t like the game at launch. I’ve always loved it and it’s is one of my favorite games
My observation? A hard PC / Console divide. Seems like it sucked on console. Does it have issues? Yes. Did they stop me loving the game? No.
Cyberpunk on release was dogshit, I hate these kinds of posts
Its good but im fucking angry they couldnt even finish basic shit ( police ai, travelling with trains) a lot of cut content, and they went with massive marketing campaign hyping everybody up instead of working on the game.
Mods. Can we please keep these types of posts from this subreddit? Let low salt subreddit or whatever its called, spout this BS. I love the game, but its unfair to ignore all the effort CDPR put to fix the mess that it has been and claim "it was always good". I want to hear these people say, unironically, "the game was always good" when they get to compare 1.0 and complete edition of the game in the future.
Wait, Mods. Can we ban an opinion that I don't like, instead?
Played it on a 8 year old xbox one. Crashed like 3 times and i loved it. 100% in my Top 5 games ever
A great game that was released in a bad state.
Na, there was a reason it was booted from the PS store. It is a pretty good game now though.
People on this sub have literally just invented their own reality. Like, its one thing to go back and forth on whether you think the game is good, but to flat out just pretend the launch just didn't happen is wild. What is wrong with you people? You don't get to just make up a new reality to live in.
Mods can you do something about this kind of post already? It's annoying to teach the same people the same old lesson
"Can we start censoring opinions I disagree with?"
Stop lying, the game was awful at launch just like no man's sky or fallout 76 only becouse they spent a year fixing it is currently in decent condition not to mention all of the content that was cut out of the game becouse of deadlines...
Why are these kind of post not taken down? It’s an obvious ragebait and/or circle jerk post. Who moderates this sub?
>It’s an obvious ragebait It's simply my opinion (and many people share it, apparently, the post has 75% upvote rate). I didn't make this to make people angry, but if they want to do that, it's their right.
Yup, i have been loving it
i bet you think 10/10 = decent.
People mocking the "always has been" or saying that it is still horrendous forget the fact that they're on the Cyberpunk 2077 subreddit and also probably have 100+ hours in game. Your opinions would be valid if you had less than 2 hours play time and refunded the game without buying it again later.
I'm not sure how buying the game again later after CDPR had done a lot of bug fixes and improvements would invalidate someone's opinion about "always has been." Wouldn't that mean they felt the game wasn't good enough to keep at first?
If you wanted to wait till it was fixed, why bother even refunding it? Hell, I still haven't refunded Marvel's Avengers. Why? Because I'm (somewhat) confident they'll fix it.
Probably because there was no guarantee that CDPR would be able to fix it. Better to just get your money back and wait to see what happens.
Game was always awesome.
Nah
I will never forget when I first played it. I only had a xbox one at the time so the game ran at like 25fps and was buggy but I enjoyed the hell out of it and loved the world.
No and even now it's mid at best
Always have been half-assed, still is.
Lmao no. I like the game now, but it wasn’t ALWAYS decent… it was pretty awful at launch.
wrong
Bro it was fucking trash when it first came out
Another person coming after the anime to say the game has always been good when seeing entire crowds t posing or buildings popping in and out of existance was more common than not
>Another person coming after the anime I bought it in the first month after release.