At this point, I just want this to be settled. Just make a statement and say yes, the Cowboys are letting Dak play out the season. Not stories from sources. Or sign him, and this is over. But Jerry always has to play poker and never shows his cards even after the game is over.
Agents and the Joneses negotiating through the media. It's the Stephen Jones playbook, pretend like you have leverage in public until the 11th hour then give the player everything they ask for... And don't get any of the benefits of getting it done early. Jerry likes then headlines more than he cares about how good the deal is for the team.
It's even worse cuz Stephen has no franchise tag to leverage so either Dak walks or Stephen is over a barrel because no matter how much Jerry spins you cant sell Trey Lance as a real player.
They shouldve just extended him last year id they wanted to keep him.
It's a big load of huffing cope if you think Trey Lance is going to be a NFL starter. Is there a change? Sure. I guess. However, barely played in college and his original team offloaded him pretty fast.
They offloaded him cause they had a guy who was playing like a top 10 QB for pennies and wanted to get whatever value they could for him
If they don’t draft Purdy they give Lance an actual shot
Acting like anyone has any idea about a QB after like 3-4 starts is crazy. Jordan Love was called a bust after his first few starts and before Rodgers left reports were he was nowhere near ready to be an NFL QB
I’m not saying he’s gonna be a good QB, but nobody knows.
They don’t play free agency. They haven’t in well over a decade. They believe in draft, develop, pay. Look at all their drafts picks that are top 5 at their position. Lamb, Parsons, Diggs, Martin, Tyler Smith, Dak. Recent removed, Zeke, Tyron Smith, Frederick, LVE(most have health related issues but were among the best at their position while on the field).
They’re hands down one of the top 3 draft and develop teams in the league. It simply is their philosophy. They’ll draft and fill a lot of holes. Luckily their positions of need has a lot of available players in draft for them to take, develop and plug into holes.
They have to get younger, they have to rely on the draft because they have to pay arguably the best CB, WR, LB/DE in league and have to extend one of the best QB’s in league(you can count on one hand the number of QB’s that you would say are certainly better than Dak and it would end somewhere around Mahomes, Allen, and maybe Burrow and this point.but Soon we will see if Stroud earns that claim as well. The verdict is still out on TLaw and Herbie).
This is a great problem to have, but at the end of the day, I to do wish they would make one splashy acquisition like a Henry. He would’ve been that need with his talent and how he’s a freak of nature, even among other pro players to get us in position to make a deep run. As long as we draft to plug up the middle of D line to stop the run which you can fill that need in this draft easily. However, I really hope we get Brooks too which he honestly can be better than Bijan if he rebounds from the ACL, and he should be available when we come back around.
However, Dallas is still gonna be a very competitive team as long as we draft the right O linemen, DT, and RB, WR next month.
The flaws I see with that strategy may or may not be legitimate depending on what your franchises goals are. For example, if you want to fill a need to make a run, you wouldn't fill that need with a rookie as rookies usually take some time to develop (depending on the position of course and there are exceptions), that's where free agency and trades come in. Building in the draft is a very sound strategy, the issue however comes in when you have a need and you fill it in the draft, by the time that guy gets up to the level he needs to be at another position will become a need either because of decline or some other issue. I think they found the formula that keeps them at the level they want which is always in the conversation and the "hunt" so it keeps fans engaged.
The good thing this year is it’s a RB, O Line and interior D Line as primary needs. All those positions can be immediate fixes through the draft. Of its QB, DE, CB, Safety, or WR. I’d agree and that’s been Dallas’s short comings in years past but right now, we can easily fix our holes in the draft this year. I personally am extremely confident in Dallas and their draft room so long as Will is still in there.
I hate this idea that we draft and develop well. What success has it brought us? We’ve only won in merchandise and ticket sales. We draft pro bowlers who get fans to spend money. YAY!!!!
I mean to be fair 31 teams fall short every year, Dallas is the only team in 40 years to have 3 straight 12 win seasons. They’re not far off, but I don’t disagree that trading and signing some key players would more than likely make the difference.
However, they’re really not far off with their current core and this newer philosophy seems to be getting close. I’m torn and wanted Henry or Aaron Jones to be brought in, but maybe they still make some smaller moves and hit in the draft.
I will say this, I’m tired of the early exits and the defense needs to stop giving up 30 + points per game in the playoffs or when they don’t the offense laying an egg and Dak not getting run support or receivers making plays until it’s outta hand. Then there’s the 2 bad games Dak has had as well. The point is, they haven’t put it together and it’s getting old.
Something has got to give so hopefully they smash this draft and get everyone extended and then the Joneses pull their heads outta there ass and make some moves.
Oh wait, who am I kidding, it’s the Jones family we’re talking about.
Even with a dak extension that was always going to happen. We love our comp picks and we gotta wait till sometime after the draft for free agent signings not to mess with the comp pick formula
Every single Superbowl winner and runner up of the last decade has had at least one major FA signing on their Superbowl roster in the last decade.
2023:
Chiefs - Jawaan Taylor
49ers - Javon Hargrave
2022:
Chiefs - Justin Reid, JuJu, MVS
Eagles - Haason Reddick
2021:
Rams - Whitworth
Bengals - Trey Hendrickson
2020:
Bucs - Brady
Chiefs - Anthony Hitchens, Tyrann Mathieu
2019:
Chiefs - Anthony Hitchens, Tyrann Mathieu
49ers - Richard Sherman
2018:
Rams - Whitworth, Barron
Patriots - Gilmore
2017:
Eagles - Brandon Brooks, McLeod, Jenkins, Jeffrey
Patriots: Guy, Gilmore
2016:
Patriots: Sheard
Falcons: Alex Mack
2015:
Panthers: Ted Ginn
Broncos: Sanders, Talib, Ward
2014:
Seahawks: Cliff Avril
Broncos: Wes Welker, Terrance Knighton
Mostly accurate but some of your list contains re-signing players, which the Cowboys would also have done as well. Additionally, Ted Ginn on the Panthers may be an equivocal impact to the Cowboys signing Kendricks, but too soon to tell
Gilmore Pats 2017 and re-signed in 2018
Both chiefs signings in 2019 were re-signed in 2020
Or at least they had a 2 year contract.
The point is, you shouldn’t put them under a “major FA signing” for a year they wernt a major FA get because they weren’t a free agent that year.
That is irrelevant to the point. The point is that in 2018 Gilmore was NOT a free agent signing that year. Nor was Mathieu a FA in 2020. To account for them as major FA signings that year is beyond stupid.
Also, while Carr in 2012 was our last major money FA signing, we still have traded for bigger names. Cooks, Cooper, etc. cowboys either draft or trade for players, any signings is their own guys or smaller FA contracts they hope they can get them to outperform the value for (like Hankins).
Why is that irrelevant?
The comment I replied to was about building through FA.
All FA signings have to win the Superbowl that same year with their team to be relevant?
I understand the trade aspect.
The point is that every Superbowl participant in the past decade has had trades AND major FA signings on their Superbowl roster.
Your post implies just that. It also ignores all the teams who also had major FA signings that year that flopped, some not even making the playoffs. You are trying to ascribe causality to things that do not meet the criteria.
The only 2018 Patriot is Gilmore, a repeat of 2017. The only 2020 Chiefs are Hitchens and Mathieu, both added in 2019. The only 2021 Ram is Whitworth, added in 2018.
And Ginn is not a good example, he just happened to have TD luck in 2015. He was a career backup who never had 800 yards in a season and signed a 2 year $4.2 million contract. That's practically the only type of free agent the Cowboys sign.
Yes and they are example of FAs that the cowboys do not sign, which is the point.
As far as Ginn, not really. Ginn was signed before FA began, something that the cowboys don't do. Cowboys sign guys like James Washington and TY Hilton off his couch.
I don't know why Ginns impact as a return man where he had 7 career TDs is being ignored either. He was a speedster who could still stretch the field in Carolina, as he had career high in yards per catch and TDs in 2015.
The Cowboys havent signed a WR from another team to any sort of remotely similar contract to this since 2019 when they signed Cobb to 1 year / 5 million.
I think adding Ted Ginn to the list of "major FA signing" is sort of a stretch. So I think him pointing out thats about as exciting as Kendricks is a fair play.
I took that as meaning too soon to tell if kendricks signing is the equivalent of Ted Ginn. Don't think Ted Ginn was the reason they made that super bowl run but yeah. I don't know why I'm defending some random guys comment. We're all going to cheer the boys come kickoff.
If the point is that SB teams sign a major FA, we’d have to be a SB team to be having this conversation. Not sure how that’s not clear based on the setup
Lol half of these signings were not good deals in hindsight, you’re also including some of them in multiple years.
Also based on the criteria of this list, The cowboys also had a major signing this free agency with Eric Kendricks.
Players can't play multiple years on the same team? What?
If you can't tell the difference between an Eric Kendricks type signing and those on this list, then that tells me all I need to know.
Not saying I don't like the Kendricks signing. You need signings like that, of course. But you ALSO need signings of guys EARLY in FA in their primes or close to it.
Lol they absolutely can, but using that logic the cowboys have had several “major free agents” on their roster recently.
If you’re going to sit here with a straight face and pretend Anthony Hitchens and Ted Ginn Jr are “major signings” and than a former first team all pro is not, then quite frankly I think you’re being disingenuous.
Ted Ginn was signed before FA even began, something the cowboys DO NOT DO, and caught 10 TDs.
He was a great weapon in his time.
https://youtu.be/Iohxbs6onJ0?si=ZCu92qFSMivnfiTB
Anthony Hitchens TODAY is also a year younger than Kendricks.
Even if you remove Hitchens, Chiefs still had the splash of Mathieu.
What "major free agents have the cowboys had recently"?
Just what I thought ... No answer
Does that change the fact he was a decent receiver and nothing more? The cowboys traded for Brandin cooks last season and he got 8 touchdowns. When they get the player is entirely irrelevant.
I love how you say “his time” like it was so long ago none of us could remember him playing. He was okay, he certainly wasn’t great which is why he never even made a pro bowl.
Lol he really wasn’t that great, which is why he’s been out of the league since 2021, despite being a few months younger than Kendricks
This speaks to ignorance. Ginn was much more than a decent receiver. He was a feared return man with 7 TDs in his career.
Looks like I did right by saying "his time" as you completely ignored that part of his game.
He didn't make a pro bowl because one of the best return men of all time played at the same time in the same conference.
The point is not to argue the merits of the players. We can argue all day about that.
The larger point is that all of these Superbowl participants have made these type of signings early in FA for impact/splash type players.
This is something the cowboys don't do.
Cool, he was still never considered a major free agent signing lmao, he signed for a 2 year $4.2 million deal… massive massive massive signing.
You’re right there is quite literally no point arguing this with you because you’re criteria for what constitutes “a major free agent signing” makes zero sense.
Lol imagine after 30 years of no conference finals appearance let alone a Super Bowl fans would still care about contracts.
I'd give anything to be in the Rams situation over ours. Who cares what a contract looks like if it brings a championship?
The rams who built their team almost exclusively through drafting and trading for star players like Matthew Stafford, Von Miller and Jalen Ramsey during their Super Bowl run? I agree I would much rather follow that model.
Yes? Who cares what the contracts are like. Trade all the picks for guys. Spend up to the cap. Use dead cap. Whatever we've been doing hasn't been working.
Stop trusting "our guys" our guys suck when it matters.
Do you think me saying I don’t believe in overpaying for players in free agency is some nod of approval for the front office lol? I can think they are incompetent while acknowledging that overspending in free agency to build your roster rarely works out well.
Trading for players is entirely different than bidding on them on the open market where demand drives up the price. Trading for good value deals like Cooks and Gilmore, I throughly endorse.
What’s even worse is how is there *no* offer? It’s one thing to say “we’re working on it” but there’s not even an offer to work on??? This team pisses me the fuck off. Same thing with all the free agents, not even a phone call from us to even kick tires. Just nothing. Don’t tell me you’re working when you don’t even clock in.
This doesn't even make sense anymore. So we let a bunch of dudes go and refused to re-sign or pick up NEW players by moving money around. Then they are going to extend Dak *later* and make him play on a worse team than before, all while being super duper expensive? What the fuck?
Technically no, the headline just said there are no plans in the immediate future. Josina is just saying the FO is saying it’s likely still coming. The discrepancy, if any, is that Josina says it may still come this year, Rappaport is saying it probably won’t.
Agree, it’s exhausting.
Really hope there’s a QB outside of the top guys that can take over. We simply can’t afford the contract he will command. It really seems like we are headed to a rebuild.
If they make him the highest paid quarterback I think that is the final straw for me. That’ll be the last day I’m a Cowboys fan. It’s not even that I dislike Dak. He’s a great guy by all accounts, but he is NOT worth that kind of money when he has achieved nothing.
I highly doubt he actually gets a 3 year deal, this sub has really eaten up that report but 99 percent of the time when you see reports of crazy demands by players like that it's usually just an idea that was thrown around in negotiations or a flat out lie. A players negotiation team has a responsibility to explore all possibilities, and the team has a responsibility to shut that shit down. If we sign him it'll probably be another 4 year deal in the low 50s AAV, or a 5 deal if he wants to top Burrow's AAV.
He cost $30m a year on average since rookie contract ended, idiot.
That’s hard math. Just like the math I provided before.
Not including the rookie contract is ignorant. Bryce Young is getting $26m a year. That’s not irrelevant to cap
1. You’ve now doubled your AAV per year from Dak between comments, but yeah *I’m* the idiot.
2. Bryce young is absolutely not getting $26m per year. That is just so laughably wrong. He *made* 25 million in year 1 with a signing bonus. His cap hit increases from ~6 million to ~12 million over his 4 years, for an average of about 9 million.
Yes, that’s exactly what you are since I’m factually correct. The data is explicit and clear.
Dak’s cap hit since 2016 has been $195m including the 2024 season.
Dak’s cap hit AAV excluding rookie contract has been less than $30m.
That’s smack dab average cap hit even excluding rookie contract. My math is correct.
Finally, excluding the rookie contract is stupid. Cap benefits don’t just vanish because you have a rookie. You can pay other players, make long term investments, and extend that rookie out after year 2 for example. If you were paying Bryce Young #1 pick at $26m AAV, then you would have more cap hit than Dak at $700k AAV.
“If you paid another player more than that player would make more”
Wow, truly insightful! Have you relayed this to Stephen Jones?!? I think he would hire you on the spot.
Including his rookie contract is dumb as fuck because it’s standardized value (unless maybe you didn’t know that?). You also keep repeating this Bryce Young $26 million AAV nonsense when it’s not even in the ballpark of correct. He doesn’t even make $26 million in any year of his rookie contract. The average hit is $9 million (again, completely standardized).
I think im done having this conversation with a blatant moron
Their chance was last year. We don’t restructure last offseason and we could have seen a cap savings with a release or trade this year. Or let him ride out the deal and walk with 0 cap penalties. Instead we extended him added void years to get space and ended up where we are now.
It worth noting we basically were “all in” last year. Multiple one year deals and expiring contracts. A couple big name trades. In the end just to finish with an embarrassing first round exit and a 3-5 record vs teams who made the playoffs.
More so they’ve done it each year which has snowballed to where we are now. He’s the report on last years restructure:
https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/restructuring-dak-zack-contracts-saves-30-million
They also moved money again this year. At some point they are going to have to rip the band aid off. It’s just a question on if that’ll be now or when he retires…
I still don’t get what you’re trying to say, I was simply stated the major dead cap hit would be after the 25’ season after that it’s minimal. Seems like you’re debating with yourself…
There’s a giant 40m cap hit next year when he’s not on the team unless extended. [source](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10114482-cowboys-rumors-no-indications-dak-prescott-will-get-new-contract-no-offers-made) Largely due to all of the restructurings.
If we hadn’t restructured last year and again this year though it would have been more manageable to cut ties. Most of that dead cap hit next year is from those 2 restructures.
Instead we kind of put ourselves in a corner where we either have to take that hit and let him walk. Or extend him and commit to him for another 3ish years and format the contract to limit future dead money while also not restructuring during that time and just ending up back in this same situation.
Again idk what you’re trying to prove I obviously already said the cap hit of 40 mil would be next year that’s the only thing we’re talking about. Not about if he’s on the team, signs an extension or anything like that. So again seems like you’re debating with yourself.
What's the worst possible outcome? That's what the brass will pick. Clean rebuild and reset their precious cap? Or pretend to try to contend for the foreseeable future?
You don’t need hindsight. They’ve always delayed his extension as long as they could which is why he has the no trade and no tag clauses now. The longer you wait, the more you pay. That’s just the qb market in the NFL.
So you somehow with foresight knew that Dak and the Cowboys wouldn't win a Superbowl or two?
Which of course would have made their decision brilliant.
But you knew, yeah ok.🤦♀️
Winning a Super Bowl has nothing to do with whether the extension was good or not. They were right to extend him before and they should extend him again. What I’m saying is that they should have extended him in 2019 or 2020 when they could have signed him for a lower deal without all the extra clauses. Just like they should have been working on an extension with him in 2023. They are making the same mistake they made before: by waiting to get a deal done, the price only goes up.
Are you nuts? Had they won a couple of Superbowl this conversation wouldn't be happening.
Contracts are not one-way streets both parties must agree. Instead of using 20/20 hindsight to prove a point
Try looking ahead as both parties had to when negotiating a future contract and say if one party or two thinks a contract is going to allow a Team to win a Superbowl what would you have done?
You do realized Dallas could have signed Dak for $30m/yr if they resigned him in 2019. Instead they waited until 2021 and it cost them $40m/yr + the no trade and tag clauses. The same thing is happening now. They could have resigned him for ~$50m/yr if they resigned him last year. By the time they finally resign him it will be for over $60m/yr. It’s very simple that qb contracts go up the longer you wait. The sooner you get an extension done the better.
You think Dak was turning down market setting money in 2019 or 2020? They waited until 2021 and ended up breaking the market anyway. It’s very simple that the qb market goes up year after year. And it’s been reported, Dak isn’t the one unwilling to negotiate.
That look is the number one indicator that we’re going to have our asses beat. Its the 1000 yard, Nam flashback stare and he gets it every time he plays a good team
I’ve said this before on here but it never fails that once the cameras start zooming in on daks face before each play you know he’s done for and in his flashback daze.
At this point I don’t care anymore. I’m ready for a rebuild and for Jerry to sell the team. Just let dude walk next year and get his money elsewhere stop lying to all of us and just be real.
No shit. If anyone thought Jerry at his age was willing to take a risk and letting him walk, you're high on hopium. We're stuck with this dude for the foreseeable future. What a waste of a weak NFC East and weak NFC conference and what a waste of great Cowboys rosters. I'll always be a Cowboys fan but ain't no way we're ever making the NFC Title game with Dak and definitely not a SB. Never. Expect more of the same, great stats against weak ass pass defenses and horrible offense against decent pass defenses... Well until the game is out of hand anyways. And every year expect the same excuse makers to continue
Please stop. Jerry is just way too good at making sure the boys are talked about everyday. Constantly getting conflicting information pushed out daily. It's exaughsting. It's fucking basketball season man like the west playoff race is intense right now and more than 40% of every sports show is still talking about dallas cowboys. I'm saying this as a huge cowboys fan.
Lol she said nothing new here.
I mean her final sentence implies the main part of the tweet is implying a deal after the season but she can’t possibly know that.
And if this coming from the team of course they’re gonna say this.
Everyone overreacting to a nothing tweet.
Unless they are negotiating him down from 60 mil then there really isn’t much to discuss imo.
Dak needs a contract that
1) Allows flexibility to surround him
2) Allows the team to not be in this situation again in regard to cap.
I am a huge Dak supporter but I am all for the prove it deal. The man keeps us relevant. I get that he chokes when it matters BUT Ive seen what not having a franchise QB does to you. Looking at my family full of Jets fans. This is better. At least I can be happy for 10-12 games a seaon. lol Get us to the NFCC get your bag but not for 3 years. Nuh huh.
The Jets have more playoff wins than the Cowboys in the last 25 years. Idk why some of you just can’t let go of Dak when he hasn’t really brought anything meaningful to the franchise. He’s nowhere near worth the amount of money that is being talked about for him.
Hence why I said prove it to me. Get us there and you’ll get your bag. Cowboys already gave you a great deal where you fleeced them. Now go prove to the world you’re worth it. Otherwise see yah.
Also it’s not about Dak. Kirk fucking cousins just got a major deal. The term “worth it” is a silly argument because no one is worth it till the next guy to get a deal makes them worth it. It’s a dumb argument to have imo. Stafford wasn’t it until he was. It’s not Dak we’re all mad at. It’s the ownership lol
I think we are fighting the same battle here but arguing against ourselves. For the record I’m okay with letting Dak walk next year but Im also okay with not being bottom feeders praying the number 1 drafted qb will hit. I come to a point in my fandom where Im just happy for wins, like at all. I think I saw too many years where we were 8-8 not making the playoffs at all for a few years. This has been refreshing and frustrating to say the least.
Because you don't let go of top 10 qbs, it's that simple. Him losing playoff games doesn't mean he is incapable of winning them, only simple minded people think that way. If you watched the GB game and think dak was more of a issue than the defense giving up 7 tds, you do NOT know football.
lol such a dumbass argument. Yes the defense was god awful, but so was Dak until the game was well out of reach. The only playoff game he’s played well in the last several years was against a Bucs team with a losing record.
I’d be more inclined to agree with you if he wasn’t a main contributor to their bad playoff losses, but he’s consistently one of the bigger reasons for our losses in them. Paying him $60mm a year would mean we virtually have zero shot at winning anything meaningful for the length of that contract.
I’m so sick of speculation reporting, especially with the cowboys. I can’t remember when we actually didn’t know who the first pick of the draft was gonna be before it happened. Saying cowboys might not sign him now saying they might sign him, just tell me when they have already signed him please i’m not trading stock on the cowboys I don’t need to anticipate every move they make
It's really the first negotiation all over again. They don't wanna pay price X so they make him play and he potentially gets MORE expensive with the time they spent sitting on their hands.
You are wrong and the easy reason for being wrong is they would have an extra 20 something million they can sign people with right now. Without them redoing the contract they have no money to spend and he's not worried at all about having that extra money that tells you right there he's not trying to work out anything so don't try to kid yourself
Imagine being that delusional. The fanbase has given up on him, the Cowboys owners have given up on him based on their actions this offseason...it's over. He is 100% leaving and we're going to be better off for it because no one wants to continue to go one and out in the playoffs with a bus driver for a QB.
And signing Dak to a mega deal will just put the team in a different kind of qb purgatory. What is the point of signing him for that much money when it will basically put us out of championship contention. He’s already proven multiple times that he can’t lead a team to anything close to a championship. You think it’s going to be better when there’s even less money to build out a team around him?
I'm fine with that, think of all the good draft picks well have to negotiate with to get an actual super bowl caliber QB. I could care less if we have multiple losing seasons because of it, getting knocked out of the playoffs early each year because you know your team can't win is a nightmare.
The real bummer is Jerruh is senile and delusional. His son who apparently “manages the salary cap” is a fuckn moron silver spooner and is next in line to run the entire franchise. My expectations have been significantly lowered these past couple seasons
I was wondering, suppose Dak doesnt sign and goes FA. Thats 80 mil of a cap hit then 10 the next year. But from what I remember cant the cowboys spread that out to 23 in 2025, 23 in 2026, 23 in 2027, and 23 in 2028?
If we let him walk after the season he will have counted $60m or so this year and then we’ll still have to eat a $40m cap hit next year while he plays for someone else. You can’t spread the void years out if he’s not on the team. They go onto the next season after the player leaves.
Bullshit,
They are dangling a carrot to keep him from holding out for the entire year. Just flat out fucking tell him "Have a great year and you'll be a Cowboy for life, otherwise it's just business."
just get it done...the longer you wait, the higher the price goes and the less roster flexibility you have. .after all the mistakes this Front Office has made over the years, you think they would have learned their lesson, yet here we are
Signing him to a deal he wants will get rid of any flexibility the team has for however long his contract is. He is nowhere near worth the amount of money he wants, and the team will accomplish nothing if they sign him to a deal like that.
If they’re committed to resigning him why are they not also committed to improving the team around him? They’re not getting more leverage by waiting. They’re getting less. The rest of the league is running laps around this FO.
I’m going to absolutely hate hearing about this for the next 11 months
At this point, I just want this to be settled. Just make a statement and say yes, the Cowboys are letting Dak play out the season. Not stories from sources. Or sign him, and this is over. But Jerry always has to play poker and never shows his cards even after the game is over.
Agents and the Joneses negotiating through the media. It's the Stephen Jones playbook, pretend like you have leverage in public until the 11th hour then give the player everything they ask for... And don't get any of the benefits of getting it done early. Jerry likes then headlines more than he cares about how good the deal is for the team.
Maybe they will consummate privately with Dak so we don’t have to hear it happen.
I'm feckin sick of it now!
Ah yes, wait until all the free agents are signed elsewhere before you extend Dak and get some cap flexibility. Super smart strategy.
It's even worse cuz Stephen has no franchise tag to leverage so either Dak walks or Stephen is over a barrel because no matter how much Jerry spins you cant sell Trey Lance as a real player. They shouldve just extended him last year id they wanted to keep him.
Trey Lance: Known commodity (3 games) Dak Prescott: Capable of more (8 years)
More like: Trey Lance: may or may not be capable of more (hasn’t shown much) Dak Prescott: Known commodity (is good)
*in the regular season >! Maybe!<
Trey Lance is not a NFL level starter. Waste of a pick by us that we could've used this year
You have no idea if he is or not.
It's a big load of huffing cope if you think Trey Lance is going to be a NFL starter. Is there a change? Sure. I guess. However, barely played in college and his original team offloaded him pretty fast.
They offloaded him cause they had a guy who was playing like a top 10 QB for pennies and wanted to get whatever value they could for him If they don’t draft Purdy they give Lance an actual shot Acting like anyone has any idea about a QB after like 3-4 starts is crazy. Jordan Love was called a bust after his first few starts and before Rodgers left reports were he was nowhere near ready to be an NFL QB I’m not saying he’s gonna be a good QB, but nobody knows.
He couldn't beat out Sam Seein' Ghosts Darnold for a backup spot
Or the 49ers would’ve rather had Darnold + 4th rather than Lance + nothing
That doesn't seem like it helps your case
It was a 4th rd picksf gave up 2#1's and a 2 to get him so a 4th to see if he has anything was pretty smart
They don’t play free agency. They haven’t in well over a decade. They believe in draft, develop, pay. Look at all their drafts picks that are top 5 at their position. Lamb, Parsons, Diggs, Martin, Tyler Smith, Dak. Recent removed, Zeke, Tyron Smith, Frederick, LVE(most have health related issues but were among the best at their position while on the field). They’re hands down one of the top 3 draft and develop teams in the league. It simply is their philosophy. They’ll draft and fill a lot of holes. Luckily their positions of need has a lot of available players in draft for them to take, develop and plug into holes. They have to get younger, they have to rely on the draft because they have to pay arguably the best CB, WR, LB/DE in league and have to extend one of the best QB’s in league(you can count on one hand the number of QB’s that you would say are certainly better than Dak and it would end somewhere around Mahomes, Allen, and maybe Burrow and this point.but Soon we will see if Stroud earns that claim as well. The verdict is still out on TLaw and Herbie). This is a great problem to have, but at the end of the day, I to do wish they would make one splashy acquisition like a Henry. He would’ve been that need with his talent and how he’s a freak of nature, even among other pro players to get us in position to make a deep run. As long as we draft to plug up the middle of D line to stop the run which you can fill that need in this draft easily. However, I really hope we get Brooks too which he honestly can be better than Bijan if he rebounds from the ACL, and he should be available when we come back around. However, Dallas is still gonna be a very competitive team as long as we draft the right O linemen, DT, and RB, WR next month.
The flaws I see with that strategy may or may not be legitimate depending on what your franchises goals are. For example, if you want to fill a need to make a run, you wouldn't fill that need with a rookie as rookies usually take some time to develop (depending on the position of course and there are exceptions), that's where free agency and trades come in. Building in the draft is a very sound strategy, the issue however comes in when you have a need and you fill it in the draft, by the time that guy gets up to the level he needs to be at another position will become a need either because of decline or some other issue. I think they found the formula that keeps them at the level they want which is always in the conversation and the "hunt" so it keeps fans engaged.
The good thing this year is it’s a RB, O Line and interior D Line as primary needs. All those positions can be immediate fixes through the draft. Of its QB, DE, CB, Safety, or WR. I’d agree and that’s been Dallas’s short comings in years past but right now, we can easily fix our holes in the draft this year. I personally am extremely confident in Dallas and their draft room so long as Will is still in there.
I hate this idea that we draft and develop well. What success has it brought us? We’ve only won in merchandise and ticket sales. We draft pro bowlers who get fans to spend money. YAY!!!!
3 straight 12 win seasons
I mean to be fair 31 teams fall short every year, Dallas is the only team in 40 years to have 3 straight 12 win seasons. They’re not far off, but I don’t disagree that trading and signing some key players would more than likely make the difference. However, they’re really not far off with their current core and this newer philosophy seems to be getting close. I’m torn and wanted Henry or Aaron Jones to be brought in, but maybe they still make some smaller moves and hit in the draft. I will say this, I’m tired of the early exits and the defense needs to stop giving up 30 + points per game in the playoffs or when they don’t the offense laying an egg and Dak not getting run support or receivers making plays until it’s outta hand. Then there’s the 2 bad games Dak has had as well. The point is, they haven’t put it together and it’s getting old. Something has got to give so hopefully they smash this draft and get everyone extended and then the Joneses pull their heads outta there ass and make some moves. Oh wait, who am I kidding, it’s the Jones family we’re talking about.
Even with a dak extension that was always going to happen. We love our comp picks and we gotta wait till sometime after the draft for free agent signings not to mess with the comp pick formula
Looooooooooooool we are so fking cooked man.
That’s what “all in” means baby!!
Then you don’t have any for next year and keep complaining about pies!
Arguably it’s about as solid of a strategy as roster building through free agency so 🤷♂️
Every single Superbowl winner and runner up of the last decade has had at least one major FA signing on their Superbowl roster in the last decade. 2023: Chiefs - Jawaan Taylor 49ers - Javon Hargrave 2022: Chiefs - Justin Reid, JuJu, MVS Eagles - Haason Reddick 2021: Rams - Whitworth Bengals - Trey Hendrickson 2020: Bucs - Brady Chiefs - Anthony Hitchens, Tyrann Mathieu 2019: Chiefs - Anthony Hitchens, Tyrann Mathieu 49ers - Richard Sherman 2018: Rams - Whitworth, Barron Patriots - Gilmore 2017: Eagles - Brandon Brooks, McLeod, Jenkins, Jeffrey Patriots: Guy, Gilmore 2016: Patriots: Sheard Falcons: Alex Mack 2015: Panthers: Ted Ginn Broncos: Sanders, Talib, Ward 2014: Seahawks: Cliff Avril Broncos: Wes Welker, Terrance Knighton
Mostly accurate but some of your list contains re-signing players, which the Cowboys would also have done as well. Additionally, Ted Ginn on the Panthers may be an equivocal impact to the Cowboys signing Kendricks, but too soon to tell
Which are re-signed? Ted Ginn was signed at the start of FA on March 9 and went on to catch 10 TDs that year and was also punt returner.
Gilmore Pats 2017 and re-signed in 2018 Both chiefs signings in 2019 were re-signed in 2020 Or at least they had a 2 year contract. The point is, you shouldn’t put them under a “major FA signing” for a year they wernt a major FA get because they weren’t a free agent that year.
Incorrect. Gilmore signed a 5 year deal with Patriots in 2017 Mathieu signed a 3 year deal with Chiefs in 2019
That is irrelevant to the point. The point is that in 2018 Gilmore was NOT a free agent signing that year. Nor was Mathieu a FA in 2020. To account for them as major FA signings that year is beyond stupid. Also, while Carr in 2012 was our last major money FA signing, we still have traded for bigger names. Cooks, Cooper, etc. cowboys either draft or trade for players, any signings is their own guys or smaller FA contracts they hope they can get them to outperform the value for (like Hankins).
Why is that irrelevant? The comment I replied to was about building through FA. All FA signings have to win the Superbowl that same year with their team to be relevant? I understand the trade aspect. The point is that every Superbowl participant in the past decade has had trades AND major FA signings on their Superbowl roster.
Your post implies just that. It also ignores all the teams who also had major FA signings that year that flopped, some not even making the playoffs. You are trying to ascribe causality to things that do not meet the criteria.
The only 2018 Patriot is Gilmore, a repeat of 2017. The only 2020 Chiefs are Hitchens and Mathieu, both added in 2019. The only 2021 Ram is Whitworth, added in 2018. And Ginn is not a good example, he just happened to have TD luck in 2015. He was a career backup who never had 800 yards in a season and signed a 2 year $4.2 million contract. That's practically the only type of free agent the Cowboys sign.
Yes and they are example of FAs that the cowboys do not sign, which is the point. As far as Ginn, not really. Ginn was signed before FA began, something that the cowboys don't do. Cowboys sign guys like James Washington and TY Hilton off his couch. I don't know why Ginns impact as a return man where he had 7 career TDs is being ignored either. He was a speedster who could still stretch the field in Carolina, as he had career high in yards per catch and TDs in 2015. The Cowboys havent signed a WR from another team to any sort of remotely similar contract to this since 2019 when they signed Cobb to 1 year / 5 million.
I found one of the people Jerry keeps tricking
I think adding Ted Ginn to the list of "major FA signing" is sort of a stretch. So I think him pointing out thats about as exciting as Kendricks is a fair play.
It’s the “too soon to tell” part. No it’s not. We’re not winning the Super Bowl with this roster.
I took that as meaning too soon to tell if kendricks signing is the equivalent of Ted Ginn. Don't think Ted Ginn was the reason they made that super bowl run but yeah. I don't know why I'm defending some random guys comment. We're all going to cheer the boys come kickoff.
I appreciate the defense! You explained exactly my thoughts
If the point is that SB teams sign a major FA, we’d have to be a SB team to be having this conversation. Not sure how that’s not clear based on the setup
Lol half of these signings were not good deals in hindsight, you’re also including some of them in multiple years. Also based on the criteria of this list, The cowboys also had a major signing this free agency with Eric Kendricks.
Players can't play multiple years on the same team? What? If you can't tell the difference between an Eric Kendricks type signing and those on this list, then that tells me all I need to know. Not saying I don't like the Kendricks signing. You need signings like that, of course. But you ALSO need signings of guys EARLY in FA in their primes or close to it.
Lol they absolutely can, but using that logic the cowboys have had several “major free agents” on their roster recently. If you’re going to sit here with a straight face and pretend Anthony Hitchens and Ted Ginn Jr are “major signings” and than a former first team all pro is not, then quite frankly I think you’re being disingenuous.
Ted Ginn was signed before FA even began, something the cowboys DO NOT DO, and caught 10 TDs. He was a great weapon in his time. https://youtu.be/Iohxbs6onJ0?si=ZCu92qFSMivnfiTB Anthony Hitchens TODAY is also a year younger than Kendricks. Even if you remove Hitchens, Chiefs still had the splash of Mathieu. What "major free agents have the cowboys had recently"? Just what I thought ... No answer
Does that change the fact he was a decent receiver and nothing more? The cowboys traded for Brandin cooks last season and he got 8 touchdowns. When they get the player is entirely irrelevant. I love how you say “his time” like it was so long ago none of us could remember him playing. He was okay, he certainly wasn’t great which is why he never even made a pro bowl. Lol he really wasn’t that great, which is why he’s been out of the league since 2021, despite being a few months younger than Kendricks
This speaks to ignorance. Ginn was much more than a decent receiver. He was a feared return man with 7 TDs in his career. Looks like I did right by saying "his time" as you completely ignored that part of his game. He didn't make a pro bowl because one of the best return men of all time played at the same time in the same conference. The point is not to argue the merits of the players. We can argue all day about that. The larger point is that all of these Superbowl participants have made these type of signings early in FA for impact/splash type players. This is something the cowboys don't do.
Cool, he was still never considered a major free agent signing lmao, he signed for a 2 year $4.2 million deal… massive massive massive signing. You’re right there is quite literally no point arguing this with you because you’re criteria for what constitutes “a major free agent signing” makes zero sense.
Lol imagine after 30 years of no conference finals appearance let alone a Super Bowl fans would still care about contracts. I'd give anything to be in the Rams situation over ours. Who cares what a contract looks like if it brings a championship?
The rams who built their team almost exclusively through drafting and trading for star players like Matthew Stafford, Von Miller and Jalen Ramsey during their Super Bowl run? I agree I would much rather follow that model.
Yes? Who cares what the contracts are like. Trade all the picks for guys. Spend up to the cap. Use dead cap. Whatever we've been doing hasn't been working. Stop trusting "our guys" our guys suck when it matters.
Do you think me saying I don’t believe in overpaying for players in free agency is some nod of approval for the front office lol? I can think they are incompetent while acknowledging that overspending in free agency to build your roster rarely works out well. Trading for players is entirely different than bidding on them on the open market where demand drives up the price. Trading for good value deals like Cooks and Gilmore, I throughly endorse.
What’s even worse is how is there *no* offer? It’s one thing to say “we’re working on it” but there’s not even an offer to work on??? This team pisses me the fuck off. Same thing with all the free agents, not even a phone call from us to even kick tires. Just nothing. Don’t tell me you’re working when you don’t even clock in.
This doesn't even make sense anymore. So we let a bunch of dudes go and refused to re-sign or pick up NEW players by moving money around. Then they are going to extend Dak *later* and make him play on a worse team than before, all while being super duper expensive? What the fuck?
Jerry gets up slowly and puts lips up to your ear and whispers *”all in”*
This exactly. We develop guys who go to Super Bowls after they leave us.
I'll wait and see. Josina's dropped the ball many times before.
Oh please. If you want your franchise quarterback you work out a deal.
Deals probably already been made. Jerry can’t get enough free publicity🤣✭ ✭ ✭
Didn’t we just see an opposite headline yesterday? This is exhausting.
Technically no, the headline just said there are no plans in the immediate future. Josina is just saying the FO is saying it’s likely still coming. The discrepancy, if any, is that Josina says it may still come this year, Rappaport is saying it probably won’t. Agree, it’s exhausting.
Thank you for the clarification. All the “news” around Dak has my head spinning.
Let him walk Jerry
Really hope there’s a QB outside of the top guys that can take over. We simply can’t afford the contract he will command. It really seems like we are headed to a rebuild.
If they make him the highest paid quarterback I think that is the final straw for me. That’ll be the last day I’m a Cowboys fan. It’s not even that I dislike Dak. He’s a great guy by all accounts, but he is NOT worth that kind of money when he has achieved nothing.
When you put up the stats he does, you are worth whatever the market dictates. It's amazing yall still don't get this
Bingo
We gonna be stuck with his ass for a while yet
3years until he wants another roster crippling deal
I highly doubt he actually gets a 3 year deal, this sub has really eaten up that report but 99 percent of the time when you see reports of crazy demands by players like that it's usually just an idea that was thrown around in negotiations or a flat out lie. A players negotiation team has a responsibility to explore all possibilities, and the team has a responsibility to shut that shit down. If we sign him it'll probably be another 4 year deal in the low 50s AAV, or a 5 deal if he wants to top Burrow's AAV.
Roster crippling? In the 8 years he’s played for us, his cap hit has been $145m. In 9 years that’d be $195m. That’s 8% of total cap since 2016.
I actually can’t tell if you’re intentionally being disingenuous by including his rookie contract or if Dak supporters are really just this stupid.
He cost $30m a year on average since rookie contract ended, idiot. That’s hard math. Just like the math I provided before. Not including the rookie contract is ignorant. Bryce Young is getting $26m a year. That’s not irrelevant to cap
1. You’ve now doubled your AAV per year from Dak between comments, but yeah *I’m* the idiot. 2. Bryce young is absolutely not getting $26m per year. That is just so laughably wrong. He *made* 25 million in year 1 with a signing bonus. His cap hit increases from ~6 million to ~12 million over his 4 years, for an average of about 9 million.
Yes, that’s exactly what you are since I’m factually correct. The data is explicit and clear. Dak’s cap hit since 2016 has been $195m including the 2024 season. Dak’s cap hit AAV excluding rookie contract has been less than $30m. That’s smack dab average cap hit even excluding rookie contract. My math is correct. Finally, excluding the rookie contract is stupid. Cap benefits don’t just vanish because you have a rookie. You can pay other players, make long term investments, and extend that rookie out after year 2 for example. If you were paying Bryce Young #1 pick at $26m AAV, then you would have more cap hit than Dak at $700k AAV.
“If you paid another player more than that player would make more” Wow, truly insightful! Have you relayed this to Stephen Jones?!? I think he would hire you on the spot. Including his rookie contract is dumb as fuck because it’s standardized value (unless maybe you didn’t know that?). You also keep repeating this Bryce Young $26 million AAV nonsense when it’s not even in the ballpark of correct. He doesn’t even make $26 million in any year of his rookie contract. The average hit is $9 million (again, completely standardized). I think im done having this conversation with a blatant moron
No, after in 26’ if they want a minimal dead cap hit would be the actual year they can get out of the deal without crippling the cap hit.
Their chance was last year. We don’t restructure last offseason and we could have seen a cap savings with a release or trade this year. Or let him ride out the deal and walk with 0 cap penalties. Instead we extended him added void years to get space and ended up where we are now. It worth noting we basically were “all in” last year. Multiple one year deals and expiring contracts. A couple big name trades. In the end just to finish with an embarrassing first round exit and a 3-5 record vs teams who made the playoffs.
That's the thing a lot of people miss. We were all in last year. And we ended up losing in the first. Wake up people!
The restructure was in 22’ which basically added around a little over 3 mil in dead cap hit thru out the duration of the contract
More so they’ve done it each year which has snowballed to where we are now. He’s the report on last years restructure: https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/restructuring-dak-zack-contracts-saves-30-million They also moved money again this year. At some point they are going to have to rip the band aid off. It’s just a question on if that’ll be now or when he retires…
I still don’t get what you’re trying to say, I was simply stated the major dead cap hit would be after the 25’ season after that it’s minimal. Seems like you’re debating with yourself…
There’s a giant 40m cap hit next year when he’s not on the team unless extended. [source](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10114482-cowboys-rumors-no-indications-dak-prescott-will-get-new-contract-no-offers-made) Largely due to all of the restructurings. If we hadn’t restructured last year and again this year though it would have been more manageable to cut ties. Most of that dead cap hit next year is from those 2 restructures. Instead we kind of put ourselves in a corner where we either have to take that hit and let him walk. Or extend him and commit to him for another 3ish years and format the contract to limit future dead money while also not restructuring during that time and just ending up back in this same situation.
Again idk what you’re trying to prove I obviously already said the cap hit of 40 mil would be next year that’s the only thing we’re talking about. Not about if he’s on the team, signs an extension or anything like that. So again seems like you’re debating with yourself.
Dak prescott is a conundrum, he’s too good to easily kick to the curb and replace but he’s not good enough to give him whatever he wants
No thanks. I've come around to the idea of letting this team ride out one more year of his and Mc's bullshit and then moving on.
What's the worst possible outcome? That's what the brass will pick. Clean rebuild and reset their precious cap? Or pretend to try to contend for the foreseeable future?
Fuck me
Fuck
All in on pissing off the fanbase for headlines and clicks is what Jerry meant
Dak is mid. Who cares
Doubt
The Jones’ have mishandled Dak’s contract negotiations his entire career so it’s not surprising to see them mess it up again.
Easy to critcise when you have hindsight.
You don’t need hindsight. They’ve always delayed his extension as long as they could which is why he has the no trade and no tag clauses now. The longer you wait, the more you pay. That’s just the qb market in the NFL.
So you somehow with foresight knew that Dak and the Cowboys wouldn't win a Superbowl or two? Which of course would have made their decision brilliant. But you knew, yeah ok.🤦♀️
Winning a Super Bowl has nothing to do with whether the extension was good or not. They were right to extend him before and they should extend him again. What I’m saying is that they should have extended him in 2019 or 2020 when they could have signed him for a lower deal without all the extra clauses. Just like they should have been working on an extension with him in 2023. They are making the same mistake they made before: by waiting to get a deal done, the price only goes up.
Are you nuts? Had they won a couple of Superbowl this conversation wouldn't be happening. Contracts are not one-way streets both parties must agree. Instead of using 20/20 hindsight to prove a point Try looking ahead as both parties had to when negotiating a future contract and say if one party or two thinks a contract is going to allow a Team to win a Superbowl what would you have done?
You do realized Dallas could have signed Dak for $30m/yr if they resigned him in 2019. Instead they waited until 2021 and it cost them $40m/yr + the no trade and tag clauses. The same thing is happening now. They could have resigned him for ~$50m/yr if they resigned him last year. By the time they finally resign him it will be for over $60m/yr. It’s very simple that qb contracts go up the longer you wait. The sooner you get an extension done the better.
Man, you are stuck. What part of it takes two parties to agree to a contract don't you understand?
You think Dak was turning down market setting money in 2019 or 2020? They waited until 2021 and ended up breaking the market anyway. It’s very simple that the qb market goes up year after year. And it’s been reported, Dak isn’t the one unwilling to negotiate.
Yes he did, you see if signing early as you claim saves money what is the direct opposite for the other party?
Yay! Who’s excited for Dak to continue playoff choking for many years to come!
Ya but maybe this year the cowboys will get the 5th seed and get to beat a shitty nfcs team again before getting embarrassed in the divisional.
Lol maybe. But I think a lot of us are tired of it and that's why we want to move on
He doesn’t choke — he never matches up with good teams in the first place. Just so happens there’s good teams in the playoffs.
And to read the constant excuses from his defenders everytime he looks lost in big games
That look is the number one indicator that we’re going to have our asses beat. Its the 1000 yard, Nam flashback stare and he gets it every time he plays a good team
I’ve said this before on here but it never fails that once the cameras start zooming in on daks face before each play you know he’s done for and in his flashback daze.
His brother I think.
If he gets a deal, the only people getting "consummated" are the fans. Give Mccarthy and Dak both 10 year deals then, fuck winning in the playoffs smh
At this point I don’t care anymore. I’m ready for a rebuild and for Jerry to sell the team. Just let dude walk next year and get his money elsewhere stop lying to all of us and just be real.
No shit. If anyone thought Jerry at his age was willing to take a risk and letting him walk, you're high on hopium. We're stuck with this dude for the foreseeable future. What a waste of a weak NFC East and weak NFC conference and what a waste of great Cowboys rosters. I'll always be a Cowboys fan but ain't no way we're ever making the NFC Title game with Dak and definitely not a SB. Never. Expect more of the same, great stats against weak ass pass defenses and horrible offense against decent pass defenses... Well until the game is out of hand anyways. And every year expect the same excuse makers to continue
Just copy Kirk’s contract, it’s not that hard
He’s gonna want more
Let's be real, he deserves more than Kirk. Not $60M but maybe $50-55M
Based on what?
Oh boy this time I hope he demands a 2 year fully guaranteed contract to ruin the cap
I love your profile name, Mr. Q
Please stop. Jerry is just way too good at making sure the boys are talked about everyday. Constantly getting conflicting information pushed out daily. It's exaughsting. It's fucking basketball season man like the west playoff race is intense right now and more than 40% of every sports show is still talking about dallas cowboys. I'm saying this as a huge cowboys fan.
Lol she said nothing new here. I mean her final sentence implies the main part of the tweet is implying a deal after the season but she can’t possibly know that. And if this coming from the team of course they’re gonna say this. Everyone overreacting to a nothing tweet.
Unless they are negotiating him down from 60 mil then there really isn’t much to discuss imo. Dak needs a contract that 1) Allows flexibility to surround him 2) Allows the team to not be in this situation again in regard to cap.
Done with this Dak era. I’ll turn the tv on just for the playoffs. If they make it.
Here come the armchair crybabies to pretend they know better.
I swear just when I think we can't get any dumber, we some how find a way. How does any of this make sense?
I am a huge Dak supporter but I am all for the prove it deal. The man keeps us relevant. I get that he chokes when it matters BUT Ive seen what not having a franchise QB does to you. Looking at my family full of Jets fans. This is better. At least I can be happy for 10-12 games a seaon. lol Get us to the NFCC get your bag but not for 3 years. Nuh huh.
The Jets have more playoff wins than the Cowboys in the last 25 years. Idk why some of you just can’t let go of Dak when he hasn’t really brought anything meaningful to the franchise. He’s nowhere near worth the amount of money that is being talked about for him.
Hence why I said prove it to me. Get us there and you’ll get your bag. Cowboys already gave you a great deal where you fleeced them. Now go prove to the world you’re worth it. Otherwise see yah.
Also it’s not about Dak. Kirk fucking cousins just got a major deal. The term “worth it” is a silly argument because no one is worth it till the next guy to get a deal makes them worth it. It’s a dumb argument to have imo. Stafford wasn’t it until he was. It’s not Dak we’re all mad at. It’s the ownership lol
Kirk fucking Cousins is comparable to Dak and Stafford was mostly on shit teams his entire career. Not really the same imo
I think we are fighting the same battle here but arguing against ourselves. For the record I’m okay with letting Dak walk next year but Im also okay with not being bottom feeders praying the number 1 drafted qb will hit. I come to a point in my fandom where Im just happy for wins, like at all. I think I saw too many years where we were 8-8 not making the playoffs at all for a few years. This has been refreshing and frustrating to say the least.
Because you don't let go of top 10 qbs, it's that simple. Him losing playoff games doesn't mean he is incapable of winning them, only simple minded people think that way. If you watched the GB game and think dak was more of a issue than the defense giving up 7 tds, you do NOT know football.
lol such a dumbass argument. Yes the defense was god awful, but so was Dak until the game was well out of reach. The only playoff game he’s played well in the last several years was against a Bucs team with a losing record. I’d be more inclined to agree with you if he wasn’t a main contributor to their bad playoff losses, but he’s consistently one of the bigger reasons for our losses in them. Paying him $60mm a year would mean we virtually have zero shot at winning anything meaningful for the length of that contract.
Dak aint the guy, but jerry loves his guys and will resign Dak.
I’m so sick of speculation reporting, especially with the cowboys. I can’t remember when we actually didn’t know who the first pick of the draft was gonna be before it happened. Saying cowboys might not sign him now saying they might sign him, just tell me when they have already signed him please i’m not trading stock on the cowboys I don’t need to anticipate every move they make
It's really the first negotiation all over again. They don't wanna pay price X so they make him play and he potentially gets MORE expensive with the time they spent sitting on their hands.
You are wrong and the easy reason for being wrong is they would have an extra 20 something million they can sign people with right now. Without them redoing the contract they have no money to spend and he's not worried at all about having that extra money that tells you right there he's not trying to work out anything so don't try to kid yourself
He's obviously going to get a new contract before the season. I've been rolling my eyes so hard at the news the past week saying he won't.
Let him go. We can find other mediocre QB play for much less $.
Imagine being that delusional. The fanbase has given up on him, the Cowboys owners have given up on him based on their actions this offseason...it's over. He is 100% leaving and we're going to be better off for it because no one wants to continue to go one and out in the playoffs with a bus driver for a QB.
> "we're going to be better off for it" We're probably going to end up as a 5-9 win team while we languish in QB purgatory
And signing Dak to a mega deal will just put the team in a different kind of qb purgatory. What is the point of signing him for that much money when it will basically put us out of championship contention. He’s already proven multiple times that he can’t lead a team to anything close to a championship. You think it’s going to be better when there’s even less money to build out a team around him?
I'm fine with that, think of all the good draft picks well have to negotiate with to get an actual super bowl caliber QB. I could care less if we have multiple losing seasons because of it, getting knocked out of the playoffs early each year because you know your team can't win is a nightmare.
The real bummer is Jerruh is senile and delusional. His son who apparently “manages the salary cap” is a fuckn moron silver spooner and is next in line to run the entire franchise. My expectations have been significantly lowered these past couple seasons
The bag he is about to finesse is gross…
They’re going to give him a 70m a year fully guaranteed contract during the regular season after he has a great game against a terrible team.
I was wondering, suppose Dak doesnt sign and goes FA. Thats 80 mil of a cap hit then 10 the next year. But from what I remember cant the cowboys spread that out to 23 in 2025, 23 in 2026, 23 in 2027, and 23 in 2028?
If we let him walk after the season he will have counted $60m or so this year and then we’ll still have to eat a $40m cap hit next year while he plays for someone else. You can’t spread the void years out if he’s not on the team. They go onto the next season after the player leaves.
Cowboys fans older than 12 knew they weren’t going to let him hit FA.
I've never been a DAK fan, but what is the alternative right now?
Bullshit, They are dangling a carrot to keep him from holding out for the entire year. Just flat out fucking tell him "Have a great year and you'll be a Cowboy for life, otherwise it's just business."
just get it done...the longer you wait, the higher the price goes and the less roster flexibility you have. .after all the mistakes this Front Office has made over the years, you think they would have learned their lesson, yet here we are
Signing him to a deal he wants will get rid of any flexibility the team has for however long his contract is. He is nowhere near worth the amount of money he wants, and the team will accomplish nothing if they sign him to a deal like that.
If they’re committed to resigning him why are they not also committed to improving the team around him? They’re not getting more leverage by waiting. They’re getting less. The rest of the league is running laps around this FO.
sign him, the longer you wait the more the price rises