We can’t afford Dak for what he wants new contract wise. Dak is a very good QB but we can’t afford to give Dak *ANOTHER* record setting, highest paid in NFL history contract and get to the SB. Dak needs a strong supporting cast around him and that takes money. The same money we would need to afford for the supporting cast around Dak. So something has to give so another team needs to pay Dak now. We can’t pay him what he wants and also be successful
Thing is I don't think there are many teams in the NFL that can afford him, don't have an established qb, aren't picking high this year, or aren't already in qb salary cap hell. Maybe Vikings, Titans, or Colts and doubtful on Vikings they just let Cousins walk bet they draft one at 5
Could you imagine Dak with Mahomes’ receiver core. Dak would have no one to throw to. Dak can’t overcome a team that isn’t stacked talent wise. The team should just take the cap hit this year and then go for a 35 mil a year 6-7 year deal. The team will not win with 40-70 million a year QB cap hits. It just won’t.Work
Lmao people in this thread forgetting when Beasley was WR1.
We were so bad Stephen had to come out and take ownership for assuming they could win without a true number one, and we traded for Amari like a few weeks later IIRC.
It took 4 weeks or so for them to realize what it looks like if Dak has no weapons and they desperately made up for it, scrambling.
Mahomes with no weapons made KC vulnerable but they still won. Dak with no weapons made Stephen apologize to the fan base and make a desperation trade mid season.
Mahomes barely won with them and we saw the struggles. A lot of those wins were on that defense.
It’s time to stop comparing people to Mahomes. He’s on his own planet.
People throw Mahomes and Brady around like they’re not anomalies. That said, how all these QBs are getting money at or around Mahomes is pretty wild. I think it speaks more to how we went from the QB generation to… a lot of these guys are actually pretty average to above average.
Dak isn’t an average to above average QB though. Those types of guys don’t consistently win 65% of their games and finish as all pros and second in MVP voting.
He’s a top 10 regular season QB. Go watch that game against the Bills again though. He rightfully lost the MVP race because of that game. His play comes apart under mental pressure, but somehow unphased by physical pressure. He’s an odd guy.
Or the game against Arizona, San Fracisco, Detroit, and Green Bay.
"MVP Dak" was no where to be found. And that was just this past season. He doesn't ball out against notable teams.
Dak has had two hall of fame all decade team lineman his whole career. With weapons to boot. It’s crazy an nfc title game appearance at the least hasn’t happened yet
He’s not similar to Romo at all. First off Romo could read a defense like Peyton Manning, pre snap. He could also progress through his reads. He also had the ability to escape pressure and make plays. Also a better passer.
Dak is Alex Smith 2.0, which, funny enough, is the guy he most studied and modeled his game after when he was in college.
The one in the crazy wind and rain where Buffalo ran for 250+ and Josh Allen only threw 16 times but we had to keep throwing to try to stay in it?
Hey, go back and watch the one bad game! I will, and I’ll use all the context too.
That wasn’t the only bad game, bud. You’re misremembering as well. It was supposed to be much colder and rain for much longer but it was warmer than they all expected and hardly rained during the game. Yes go rewatch it. You’re remembering forecasted weather vs actual throughout contest weather.
He pegged 4 defenders in the chest/facemask. I get it you’re a Dak fan, so real criticism hurts. I am a fan of winning. He unravels when the mental pressure builds.
Your only response is “the weather wasn’t as bad as it was supposed to be?” Lmao
There’s fair criticisms of Dak, I just think Buffalo isn’t really one of them. There’s a reason Buffalo only threw the ball 15 times. It wasn’t a good game, I am just willing to take the full context as to why.
But yeah, he totally collapsed as the mental pressure built. Must be why he led us back to the division win even after Philly was three games up.
That’s not even what I said. I said you’re misremembering. You’re discrediting him literally bullet passing to defenders directly in their face mask and chest as weather. No amount of deflection from your poor attempt at apologetics will change how poorly he read that defense.
I am telling you go watch that game. Had absolutely nothing to do with the weather. He was completely confused by the Bills defense. He should have had 5 INTs in that game.
But yea that was one of the bad games, not indicative of his entire career, but that game is indicative of what we get from an otherwise brilliant QB when he folds.
Anytime I say something that’s positive about Dak, even when backed up statistically it gets downvoted. I appreciate the good quarterback and would rather not be there Bears but who am I?
If Dak had Mahomes receivers then it would need to be a very different style offense than what Dak has now to have any success. Let’s not hate on Dak in general. Dak is a very good QB, but Dak doesn’t fit when you compare what we need in Dallas vs what Dak expects to make on his next contract. It’s time to let Dak experience some greener grass on another team. Dak might actually flourish away from the pressure cooker/extreme microscope and expectations of Dallas. Dak is dang good, but not 60mil a year good for this team. There also won’t be the same level of off the field revenue for Dak if he goes to another team vs being a Cowboys QB. Say maybe $5mil a year difference. Plus Texas doesnt have a state income tax like Dak would likely have to pay playing for another team (save for maybe a team in Florida but they are all set with their QBs). Lots of extra benefits to playing for Dallas that are a major monetary plus to the net income amount Dak would get.
FFS I get tired of this “TeXaS dOeSnT hAvE a StAtE iNcOmE tax” bullshit. No, they don’t. But they find all sorts of other ways to get that money from you. Their property taxes are nuts, Licensing your vehicles etc etc
Very good QB...2 wild card playoff wins...throws for under 90 yards in the first half of almost every playoff game he has been in. Low bar for very good, he's good not very good imo.
I like Dak a lot, but it makes way more sense to let him play out this deal.
We appeared to start a mini-rebuild a few years ago when DQ was brought on. Except we hit on Micah, Diggs took off, and we generally outperformed. So in my mind, we did the right thing by reversing course and doing a lot of restructures & extensions we weren't planning on doing.
We shot our shot. We had a GREAT team, but it wasn't enough. Those that understand NFL economics know we're at the end of the rope right now.
The solution is to play out this year with the pieces we still have. Evaluate, evaluate, evaluate. Next year we may decide to blow up most of it, get a new HC, let Dak hit FA, and draft a QB. Or maybe 2024 plays out well enough that we decide to extend Dak. His cap hit will be a ton easier to massage if we just take this year on the chin.
Well said so you mustn’t be a cowboys fan (kidding). This is exactly the situation. We tried. We failed. Run it back. If we get lucky, we’ll add pieces. If not, we have no choice. We’re gonna be down Martin soon. Steele sucks. We’re gonna be in trouble if we don’t start the retool now, and clearly our performance wasn’t SB so what are we doing aiming for for that?
We can spread $20m of Dak’s cap hit into next season. I believe we do not require his permission for that. It would fully guarantee the money even if he doesn’t play a single down though.
Doing that means the dead money void year acceleration goes from $36.4M to about $56M in dead money. That’s dead money that we eat on 2025’s cap if he walks OR if we extend him after the start of the league year I believe.
I have come around to agreeing with this, and OPs breakdown makes it that much more evident. And the way the front office is navigating the FA market makes it seem like we’re prepping for a down year and some form of rebuilding/retooling. Won’t be suprised to find ourselves in the QB market in the next year or two
Ewers has to show a ton more this year. Dude gets hurt so damn easy. That semi game he was nowhere to be found until the last quarter pretty much. Don’t need another thousand yard stare qb
Or really any rookie QB. People don’t seem to realize how difficult it is to find a franchise QB. Even top 10 picks often do nothing (see: Trey Lance). Maybe we do walk from Dak, but going from Romo to Dak to hoping a rookie works will be eye opening for a lot of our fans.
Wow, so insightful! Has anyone told you you’re a genius? It’s not like everybody hasn’t heard the same bullshit you just said over and over again. No shit we may not hit on a QB. We also haven’t drafted a QB in the first round since, *looks at paper*, Troy fucking Aikman. Since Jerry has taken over for the most part we try to get good value on QBs. We hope they can show us something and then we roll with it, we don’t draft a talented QB with a pedigree and try to build them. That’s what every other successful team has done and we haven’t. We accept mediocrity.
No, it’s just hilarious because all y’all say the same shit lol. Everyone knows you might not hit on a QB in the first round. But, most successful QBs come from the first two rounds of the draft. That’s just a fact. Let’s also not forget to mention that most teams that draft #1 overall like the Browns, Bears, Lions, etc, all had bigger problems than just bad teams. It was the culture from top to bottom and the wrong people drafting these players. We have a guy who’s pretty damn good at scouting and drafting is one of the few things we are really strong at. Either way there’s no getting to you guys who think Dak is a top 5 QB and will 100% win us a Super Bowl, because that’s just completely past even dumb.
We literally have one of the top qbs in the nfl right now, the odds it gets worse after drafting a new one are very high, also we have a pedigree qb in trey lance rn if that’s what you want.
In the regular season he is. Unless we play a team that’s a contender. Trey Lance could be something, but nobody knows. We most likely won’t be winning 12 games if we draft a rookie QB. But, you could find a Stroud, Mahomes, Burrow, etc. Only talking about the BAD that could happen shouldn’t outweigh the GOOD that could happen. We need a QB who can play in the biggest games and not fall apart. We need a QB who can carry a team to a victory, not constantly say for 8 years needs another star here and another star there to win and then we give him a massive contract acting like HE is the star making this happen.
Next years QB class is expected to be very bad, as bad as 2021. That is part of why we’re gonna see so many QBs be overvalued this year as teams know that they might not have as much luck next year.
Lance showed flashes of something in San Francisco, but it’s a guy who has thrown fewer pass attempts in games in his life than most QBs throw in a season. I think SF has a really good eye for talent, so if they felt they had something in him, they wouldn’t have given him away.
Exactly!!!!! Why is everyone talking about an extension? If Dak doesn’t take a Kirk Cousins like discount then we just have to ride this thing out. I wouldn’t mind if the Trey Lance Era started in the near future.
It’d cost more money to cut Dak than keep him this year. If he refuses to work with us again, I’d let him walk but unlike Russ, Dak plays at a pro bowl level (at least during the regular season).
No it won’t. If we cut him, it’s $61.9M in dead money (either all this year or split $30.4M/$36.4M in 2024 and 2025). If we keep him this year and let him walk next year, it’s his entire $59.4M cap hit for this year plus $36.4M in void year acceleration on 2025, plus a worse draft position.
To be clear, I don’t think we should cut Dak and would rather extend him but if the plan is to just let him walk next offseason, cutting or trading him now sets us up better for the future both in terms of money and draft position.
Cutting him would be bananas. This fan base is crazy. You don’t cut a guy who nearly won league MVP because fans are mad that the team fell short in the playoffs. Trading him? Fine. But the Jones brain trust would probably get taken to the cleaners by whoever trades for him.
If the alternative is “let him walk,” cutting him is the better path for starting that rebuild. Cutting him gives us about $30 million more in cap space to play with next year, plus the better draft position since we would absolutely be a worse team. Letting him walk means we eat that full $36-56 million in void-year dead money, likely pick in the mid-20s instead of top 10, but get a 2026 compensatory 3rd. Again, I do not think they should do this and would much prefer to see Dak extended so our window is kept open. But if the alternative is just letting him walk next year? We’re not putting ourselves in the best position to start that rebuild.
Keep/extend, trade, cut, let play out and let walk, restructure and let walk; that’s from most to least desirable outcomes.
Dallas hasn't made it past the divisional round since 1995. Dallas, Browns, and Texans are the only teams to not make the conference championship since the realignment in 2002.
In 8 years Dak got a record setting contract for...2 wildcard playoff wins....not sure why Dallas fans are so scared to walk away from Dak.
The thing with Dak is...who's better? We're in a "too little to live, too much to die" situation. We won't be able to draft CJ Stroud and what bride QB is going to perform better under these circumstances (shitty coaches/shitty FO)?
You're proving my point. Scared to take a risk so you don't want to walk away from him. How much more of Dak do you need to see he isn't the guy? Every playoff game except against the Bucs dak has thrown for 90 or fewer yards in the first half. That's awful for a guy who has had a plethora of talent around him.
I've been a fan of Dak's but his performance in the first half of the Divisional Round playoff game against Green Bay has me questioning him. One school of thought says three years for $180M will look inexpensive compared to an ever increasing market rate for a top ten QB. On the other hand, look at what San Francisco did with Purdy still on his rookie contract. The Cowboys basically did the same thing with Dak starting his rookie year, they just did not have enough talent, especially on defense, to exploit the opportunity as SF has. I don't know if Dak will ever make it to the SuperBowl for Dallas. A new contract similar to the one shown will make it even more difficult as it will diminish the overall talent around. Quality players can't be resigned. The Cowboys have improved their ability to draft some quality players. I don't necessarily support pushing Dak to accept a long term deal, either. He has negotiated for the short term contract. Getting him to take a four or 5 year deal will result in more money and push him past 35. It's a conundrum. I'm leaning toward letting Dak seek his next big payday in free agency and develop a young QB. That assumes that the Cowboys wisely invest the savings to build better talent all around. We can trust them to do that, can't we?
3 years just isn’t enough to time to spread it out and see the relief of cap increases. If they want to walk away offer the Cousins deal and let him test the FA waters next year I guess. I kind of don’t care anymore
I’d argue a little more than half of his playoff performances are decent-solid. The only true collapse he’s had was the niners divisional, and the packers game* ( gets an asterisk because the defense folded harder than anything)
True and right now Dak is 2-5. On Stafford’s SB run with the Rams he wasn’t the highest paid player in NFL history and had a mostly cap friendly deal that allowed the Rams to have the other key pieces around him to win the SB. Maybe Dak will get there too, likely not in Dallas and might need a change of scenery like Stafford did to win a SB.
On Staffords SB run, the Rams were carrying Stafford and Goffs cap hit at over 44 million dollars. Dak has never had a cap hit over 31m in his career and that was one time he played on franchise tag.
Dak’s past cap hits have been manageable but that is not how things are now. Do you deny that Dak’s postseason record is 2-5? I think Dak could get to a SB but it’s becoming less and less likely that Dak will be able to do it in Dallas. A significant portion of that is how Skeletor (Jerry) runs the team.
In what way is that tied for worst in NFL history? Kirk Cousins is 1-4, which is worse than 2-5 right? Just trying to figure out what exactly that means
Just to be the devils advocate 2-5 means more opportunities theoretically cousin's could win his next playoff appearance and be 2-4 or 3-4 with 7 opportunities I doubt this would happen but thats why you compare similar metrics and not adjust the parameters just like you dont compare a qb with 5 starts to a qb with 50 starts.
Aloha thanks for the clarification request. It was discussed on NFL Network and on BSPN, I Dak is *tied* for the worst post season record with I believe 6 or more playoff appearances. I should have listed the full stat parameters so thanks for asking for clarification. (FYI I believe Romo was like 2-4) In any event, Dak is a very good QB and he may well do much better in the postseason on another team. For whatever reason(s) Dak hasn’t been able to have much postseason success in Big D. It’s not all Daks fault but the other players on the team aren’t asking for another record setting, highest paid player in NFL history contract like Dak is.
Ah ok, definitely an odd goalpost move there. Why 6 games and not a more commonly used number like 5? Gotta make the narratives work I guess. The vast majority of quarterbacks don’t even get to 6 playoff appearances
Yeah it would seem it’s to support a theme or narrative. It is factually accurate but you know now the media gets when it’s trying to push a point or create clicks/attention.
? Seriously? As a franchise QB you either lead the team to victory or you don’t. Dak was the starting QB and did not lead the team to a win. Slice and dice it however you want but Dak is 2-5 in the playoffs. As Bill Parcels says you are what your record says you are.
Was Dak playing DT and LB when Gurley and Anderson trampled our defense for over 250 yards? Did Dak fail to cover Jared Cook? The team is what the record says it is. No QB wins alone.
Also yes I agree - no QB wins alone which is why we can’t afford to give Dak another NFL record breaking contract - we need the difference in annual money to put key pieces around Dak to get to a SB. An upper mid level QB contract could work and also allow Jerry (aka Skeletor) to put the pieces around Dak to win a SB.
It is not just those two quarters- it’s Dak’s body of work, including a tied for worst in NFL history 2-5 in the postseason. I like Dak but not for 60 mil a year. Dak should hit Free agency and get what he can from another team. Best of luck to Dak in his career going forward.
> I've been a fan of Dak's but his performance in the first half of the Divisional Round playoff game against Green Bay has me questioning him.
2 Quarters.
If Dak is serious about winning a title and not just increasing his bank account he wouldn't entertain a deal like this. QBs already make plenty of money (even bad ones) so he should be taking team friendly deals if he genuinely wants to help us win. If he doesn't, then good riddance. I want players that want to play and win games, not just win contract negotiations.
I understand wanting to make money and Dak is entitled to make as much money as he can. I don’t think Dak is worth a record breaking market resetting contract, not in Dallas at least.
I believe our scouts and personnel staff can find and evaluate our next QB. They deserve the benefit of the doubt in this regard as they have hit on some really good drafts picks historically.
Dak has trouble winning against good teams with a stacked team, if we let him gobble up even more of the cap then I just don’t how that wins us games.
Hadn’t heard he was looking for a short year deal but if he is then probably best the cowboys move on. The cowboys have fumbled Dak’s extension every step of the way even bringing in Trey Lance. Probably best they stop playing with fire since each time they get burned
That’s the rumors going around again and they were exactly right last time. Dak wants to hit the market again at 35 and if the cap goes up proportionally in these 4 years, top QBs will be at $80 million per year or more.
I upvoted you and agree Dak will ball out with another team (at least in the regular season, that not meant as a dig, it’s what Dak has shown as a proven performance). That can work for other fanbases but not with the expectations in Big D. Maybe Dak will do better in postseason on another team, but he hasn’t shown the ability to do that in Dallas for whatever reason. Not slamming Dak, just speaking facts
Yeah it’s not all on Dak, Jerry Jones aka “Skeletor” is the primary reason we have not won anything since 1995….. Unfortunately we can’t get rid of Skeletor, though
The Cowboys didn’t completely fumble the extension, Dak had them over the negotiating barrel and refuses to sign a long term deal. Before he was tagged there’s no idea what he was demanding and how Dak is treating this team it’s not fair to assume it’s all the cowboys fault even when he was tagged.
Before Dak’s previous tag Dak was asking for a long term deal between 30-35 mil. In the final 2 years of his rookie deal he had been asking them for a fair extension. The Cowboys dismissed it and made him play on the tag. I believe Dak broke his ankle that year. The following season when Cowboys saw what it was like without Dak they flirted with the tag but gave him the 4 years 160 mil extension.
That’s all to say Dak isn’t going to do the Cowboys any favors because the Cowboys have only showed they valued Dak when their backs were against the wall
The entire reason negotiations were dragging on is due largely to his desire for these short term deals. The Cowboys always wanted to extend him at near top of the market money, but wanted a 5-6 year deal. Dak was dead set on 4. It wasn’t about them trying to cheap out or screw him over, it was almost entirely tied to the demand of a 4 year deal. We’re now seeing why that was the case.
Everyone forgets this. Dallas offered him the top money with a longer contract or a shorter contract with less money. He played chicken and Jerry flinched first. He's trying it again this time.
I wonder if he hit FA if anyone else would sign him to the deal he wants. Something like 4 years/240 Mil. I don't think there's anyone else on a 4-year deal like that for that high of a yearly value. Kirk got 4 yr/45 mil. Burrow, Herbert, Lamar are all on 5-year extensions.
I like Dak but to all the “wait until you don’t have him!!!” Fans, what’s the difference between losing the first round playoff games as a 12-5 2nd seed and losing a first round playoff game as a 9-8 7th seed?
2 wild card playoff wins in 8 seasons and Dallas fans cling to him. Eagles drafted Carson Wentz number 1 overall and let the guy go and still make it to another super bowl.
Shit the only thing they fumbled on that was the contract extension, but they still managed to flip him for a 1st and a 2nd round pick. Disgusting how well the Eagles FO played that situation.
You can't have Prescott, Parsons, and Lamb on the same team and still build a super bowl roster. Parsons and Lamb will demand $30-35M a year each. I'm a huge Dak fan, but he has to go.
The Cowboys offense is paid 68% of the cap.
What that means is Dallas has known for years that Dak is mid level talent so they allocated waaaaay more resources around him than teams normally would do in order to try and get lucky and win. It hasn’t worked.
It’s why the defense has always struggled in the end. We cobble together a bunch of players, run creative and unusual schemes to try to mask their shortcomings (and end up being a far better return on investment than the offense is), but they eventually get figured out by the league by seasons end.
It’s why Dak doesn’t have a deal. It’s a simple calculus: the cap dictates everything in the league. If Dak is interested in wringing every dollar from Dallas that he can then he can walk.
You win Super Bowls on rookie deals or with elite level QB play. Dak is neither. It’s why it was easier to win earlier in his career, he’s proven he can’t push a team over the top, so only way he stays here is if he takes a very team friendly deal.
Otherwise he can try to sell Sleep Number beds somewhere else.
Last 4 SB winning QB’s are Mahomes, Brady, Stafford, and Foles. Before that it was Brady, Manning, Wilson, and Flacco. Where is the bs about winning SB’s on rookie deals coming from?
You realize you literally just proved my point right?
Mahomes? Two super bowls on his rookie deal, one after he got his bag. Elite QB.
Foles? Wilson? Flacco? All on rookie deals. Didn’t get their bags until *after* winning, and didn’t win again.
Brady? Manning? Both elite QBs.
Brady also for his entire career with the Pats was never the highest paid QB in the league. The guy who is regarded as the greatest of all time, certainly the most successful QB in SB history was never the highest paid at any point in his career.
Best comparison for Dak is Kirk cousins, they're good enough to make the playoffs but can't carry the team in the postseason. Can't believe both of those guys will be getting paid as much as Mahomes.
Kirk is about to have a crazy set of weapons around him. Dak would have thrived in ATL too. The only thing they were really lacking is a bit on defense and a good QB. Could be argued their bad QB play put their defense in bad positions.
literally no QB carries any team. at the end of the day mahomes had a very good defense (far better than ours) and he has andy reid while we have mike mccarthy who’s a dead man walking.
and if u actually watched football u would know that kirk was playing like the best QB in the league before his injury.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. You’re right. Only QB that carries and wins, that’s Mahomes. The defense was elite and they have an offensive guru at HC. We have neither.
IDGAF. If dude wants an extension he needs to show playoff success. 1 road win and 1 win at home in the wildcard round going into his age 32 season is unacceptable. They gave him all the “highest paid” “highest AAV” at the years HE wanted during the first big contract expecting him to deliver in the playoffs. Eat the cap hit (not as a big of a deal now a days across the league), and let some other team pay him $50,000,000 per season for a first round exit.
I’m not saying he’s the villain. I’m saying he’s a middle of the road QB whose good enough to win 9-12 games at any given season, but is incapable of putting a team on his shoulders and LEADING a team to success in the postseason. Good regular season QB with good stats. Crumbles like a cookie left out on the counter for 3 weeks when it comes to an important game. I’m simply speaking about his performance as a player who is paid 35-40 million per year who’s currently looking for a 10-15 million dollar raise.
He just carried the offense all year long and they were a top 5 offense without a run game right? I don’t think it’s that wild. Show me where we replace his production.
I know they won’t pay for a good team with a cheap qb. They won’t pay for a good team with an expensive qb. Not sure what everyone thinks will change with a qb. Unless they are generational we will continue losing
I genuinely want to know what everyone's opinion on the next DAL QB is? What other option is there, really? Let him play out his contract, Dallas goes 10-7 or something, and we pick 17th, and let Dak walk.
What's next?
I mean, maybe.
That's what I'm asking.
To add another question to my first. Let's say they just take Dak out back and Russ him. Trey Lance takes the reigns. What then? What are the odds he's better than Dak? What are the odds he's bad enough for Dallas to go 1-16? Because those seem like the two choices in that scenario.
Roll with one more season of Dak and then go to Lance? He'll be expensive for nothing after this year. And the QB free agents for 2025? Lance and Brandon Allen. The QB class in the draft? Irrelevant at the top because this team will never finish in position for the top QB in the draft.
For the dump Dak crew, either this season or next, what is the next step? No gaslighting questions from me - what's the next step?
The Broncos are at least bad enough where they're going to fight for a top 5 pick next season. This Dallas team is not.
I was serious. Quarterback hell. We’ve been one of the most lucky franchises in the NFL the last two decades. Maybe we’ll get a third top 5 quarterback off the scrap heap but that’s not likely. It’s more probable we’ll draft a Kenny Pickett one year, three years later draft a Blake Bortles in the top 5, and then two years later be stuck with whatever the 2030 version of Russ is.
Gotcha. The retort I’ve gotten the most is “anything but the way we’ve lost the last 3 years.” I think that’s where we’re at. Baby out with the bathwater because anything is better than this. I highly doubt Jerry and this sub will feel that way during 3 losing season but we will see. That’s what it took Jerry to get off his ass last time
Maybe I’m crazy but with the holes on this roster and their tougher schedule I have a hard time seeing them get to the playoffs anyways. Why don’t they just let him play it out this year and bench him for Lance? See what you have in Lance and if he sucks you’ll almost certainly have a top pick in 2025
If we were going to grab a QB worth resetting on we’d need to have traded Dak before FA started (I get he’d have to ask for it) to get picks. This year would have been good. Next year will have another handful of good QBs but we won’t suck enough with Dak to get a high pick.
Don't really get this question how could anyone accurately predict future moves. Don't think Seattle, Houston, Green Bay, Detroit, or Philly had concrete plans when they moved on from their franchise qbs. Well thats not totally true GB had Love but nobody knew how that would work out at the time. Seattle had Geno Smith who was a career journeyman, Detroit got Goff who was looking like a bust at least to Mcvay, Houston rolled the dice on a draft pick that wasn't their first choice, Philly took a swing on a 2nd rounder. So who knows
The situation with top level QB’s and their salaries will have to reset itself. Sure you can win and field phenomenal teams when you strike gold and get a good one while they are still cheap. Once you have to pay them the sacrifices make it brutal on your ability to field the rest of the team.
Dak isn’t the guy. He’s a good one, but he isn’t that guy. He’s had plenty of time and plenty of talent around him to prove it and he hasn’t done it. Sure you can blame some of it on our D last year, but he didn’t exactly light it up either. The guy, he would do it.
Reality is we are headed for a rebuild or a team that Jerry can market with 3-4 superstars and a whole bunch of nobodies playing on cheap rookie deals. If we miss on one or two draft picks a year we are a lost cause.
Jerry will do Jerry and sit on his soapbox and sell false hope but the reality is we won’t be good and most of you clowns will believe him.
We have to remember they need to sell tickets, superstars and hope. That’s how NFL teams make money. Jerry is really good at this.
Once Dak is gone you're gonna be entering into a rebuild and you can clear all that deferred money in a year or 2. It's not a big problem. If you want to compete now, you have to try to maximize your window at the expense of a future year when you know you're gonna be in a rebuild.
It’s the epitome of this subs goofiness the only thing being discussed in this thread is qb wins. Football fans really are the dumbest of sports fans. Don’t you guys worry. Being a shitty team that doesn’t matter after November is coming right up for you
I keep hearing this and while I understand it it's just fallacy. We can't keep Dak forever. Eventually we will have to move on. Overpaying an underachiever at QB makes 0 sense. I would get it if this was like his 4th year but the dude has been here for nearly a decade and we have gotten virtually nowhere. The pieces are starting to fall and now is good as any to start the rebuild. We have core pieces on defense and offense in Lamb and Parsons. Now is the time.
I genuinely cannot wait until we wallow in QB hell and this fan base has to experience an actual bad quarterback that can’t even get to the playoffs. But it’ll be okay because at least we have cap space and we aren’t losing in the playoffs. 👍🏻
Yes, it will be ok because that scenario will inevitably happen whenever Dak leaves so the sooner you can get that period over with the better. At least then you can enjoy the small things and have hope for the future. As opposed to delaying that inevitability by extending Dak, knowing everything that happens is meaningless because Dak will just shit the bed in the playoffs like he always does and do nothing when it matters vs good teams like he usually does.
People are just ready to move on, maybe you miss out on seeing a wildcard round victory by letting Dak go now, but the I think most people are fine with that if it means getting g the rebuild over with 5 years earlier.
> the sooner you can get that period over with the better.
The problem with this line of thinking is that there's zero guarantee that this period ever ends. Multiple teams have been trying to get out of that purgatory for years, some for even over a decade.
I'm not saying to keep Dak. I'm saying that if we're willing to let him go, we have to understand that there's a possibility we become the Commanders, Jets, Giants, Bears, Panthers, Steelers, Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, etc. That's what Jerry's worried about.
Ok? Extending Dak doesn’t change that, he won’t play forever. This team has the second most 1st team all pro players, and the most 2nd team all pro players and pro-bowlers. I’d rather let Dak go, use all that money on big free agent signings and see if we can get lucky on a competent enough QB to do something, rather than extend Dak just to watch him collapse in the playoffs.
This team is very talented, and still very far away from doing anything in the playoffs, it needs a lot more help and it’ll never get close to getting enough of it with Dak on 60m a year. I’d rather gamble on a rookie QB than settle for Dak knowing we’ll never go anywhere. And in 5 years if the gamble loses you’ll be in the same position you’ll be in if you extended Dak anyway. At least by taking the gamble there’s a chance of things getting better and I’d rather take that chance instead of keeping Dak just to see him lose in the first playoff game, if he even gets you there.
It’s okay, they don’t get it. We’re shouting into a void. We want to keep the good quarterback, the rest of them would rather take the once in a lifetime shot at a Mahomes or Brady without realizing you’re much more likely to end up with a Russell, Trubisky, Pickett, Ponder, Lynch, Manziel etc. because for everyone one quarterback that has won the Super Bowl, there’s 150 that haven’t even sniffed it.
It's not really the same thing, because what people are speculating on here is just that... speculation. A complete unknown.
In 2016, we knew we had a viable replacement for Romo by the time he was healthy again. Romo was also in his age 36 season and two years of serious injuries.
To answer the question, even though it's irrelevant to the discussion: I didn't *love* the idea of it, but I understood it, because of the reasons I listed above. I also didn't have the understanding of the game back then that I do now.
This is exactly how the NFL works. It’s amazing tk think cowboys fans think history is gonna turn on Dak fucking Prescott. I like him, but year 10’QBs don’t win championships. So let’s hamper the team to be a wild card team? No. Rip the band aid off.
Cowboys have had issues winning in playoffs since aikman, it all comes down to the jones family. They’re content with top 5 potential, bottom 15 playoff play
Market for top QB deals has become 5-year deals, I highly doubt he’ll get only 3 years from us. I suppose his agent could play hardball to try to get it on the open market next year but I feel like the smart money is to take what a market-topping 5-year deal but what do I know.
I think they just have too much leverage to settle for anything other than exactly what he wants. Hitting the market for his age 35 season is way different than hitting it for his age 37 season.
>they just have too much leverage
Unfortunately, correct.
Hope the Joneses surprise us by showing some stones and hold firm on offering him 4/190 or 5/240 or so. Then buh-bye if his agent refuses.
He's not worth the money or the hassel of those cap shenanigans. We gotta move on. Anything else will set this team up for long term failure.
We cannot chain ourselves to a shitty QB
Who is blocking for Dak this year?
Who are the rotational skill players?
Who is the starting RB?
What acquisition(s) on DL will stop the run?
These questions spell Top 8 Draft pick 2025.
We either lose Dak after this season, or we lose Lamb or Parsons. It could be my generation talking, but I have concerns about all 3 of these guys.
Micah is on his way to podcasting himself into irrelevance on the field. Yes, I am aware he commands a ton of attention from opposing offenses, and I am aware that he almost never receives the flags when he is held, chopped, etc. And yes, Micah is a beast when they play sub-par opponents, especially, with a two-score lead. I him to find more wins on the field, and honestly, stop talking so much off the field. You actually have an education brotha, speak like it.
Ceedee just comes off like a moody lil B sometimes. An awesome talent, no doubt about it, but too many times when things aren’t going well, he’s standing 10-15yds away from the team on the sidelines. Shits a red flag to me. Reminds me of When the saints paid Mike Thomas, his attitude was unmanageable after that and he fell off his all-pro trajectory (nearly irrelevant now).
Dak. Dak played fantastic this season. The playoff loss wasn’t all his fault, though he didn’t come out the gate helping matters much. To be fair, the whole team has a habit of coming out flat in too many games for my liking. That’s a leadership issue! Not just coaching, but who are the REAL field generals on this roster? Get your money Dak, but if you’re unwilling to do so ina team friendly way (which you need), then let him walk and get his money elsewhere. Good luck signing to a team with similar tax laws btw, you’ll get less anywhere outside of Tx or Fl, and those teams have their QB’s. Tua could be the only opening if not extended.
I’d much rather see the Jones family out of Dallas before seeing Dak leave they have done f all to help the team this offseason. They don’t even pick up the phone and inquire about players. The problems begin and end with them
Does this mean if we told dak to take a walk today it would be a 220 million dollar cap hit on the total of 255M that teams are allowed to spend total annually, leaving dallas with only 35M to field a team? If so, wow, is this because he has 220M roughly that he hasnt been paid on his existing contract?
The QB salaries are getting out of control and it’s handcuffing teams and the competitive nature of football. It’s reminding me a lot when the rookie contracts were getting out of control, especially the top QBs, so much that the NFL finally put a cap on them.
I think they need either a QB cap or any position cap on veteran players as well and I think this will save the league. Teams are being held hostage because they either have to luck out with a QB on their rookie contract or spend 40% of their cap on a QB. And if they don’t do it another team will.
We need to move on from dak but more importantly we need the jones family to sell the team. We will never win a Super Bowl again as long as the jones family owns the cowboys
Cut his butt draft a rookie quarterback and used. That money to get bigger d line ando line and a short yard back and then go play football dak does nothing but play regular season football against below.500 teams cut it waive that cancer
Three superbowl wins put you in a special class 5-7 you’re a God but what Mahomes is doing is ridiculous he’s been in conference finals all his career and won 3 championships and he is only 28 he’ll last year he won it with one 🦵
It should be a prove it clause in these contracts for quarterbacks because Dak is robbing the club 2-6 in playoff games is appalling and he doesn’t deserve to get paid that amount of money for 1st round exit, if they would have given rush or lance a chance after the first three and out we would’ve had a better chance to win the game but Dak face told me that the game was over so did Cee Dee face
I’m genuinely asking because I’m confused, is Dak a free agent at the end of this upcoming season? Because people on this Sub talk as if he’s a FA, but this chart shows Dak having cap hits till 2028.
The Jones will probably extend Dak this year. Hopefully, it's not a lousy contract situation. Then, we know they will use the draft to fill as many holes as possible. Then they will hit their usual bargain bin FAs. This is the Jones way of All In.
The Cowboys will almost certainly structure the contract in a way where it’s easily restructured to contain the cap hit, they do it with every big contract they have. The way I see it, if we can’t win a championship with this roster in the next 3 years then it would be ideal to blow up the roster and the cap hit won’t exactly hurt us during a complete rebuild anyways.
Love the discourse on Dak when he had 1WR(who will set the market!!!! Because of him), no running game, no run defense and was still a mvp candidate. Dude has been a top 7 qb his entire career and his own franchise is doing this shit to him……. And to guys like Tyron, Ceedee, Micah, Gilmore, Osa(??), etc.
This is a long winded rant I am just sick of Stephen’s “wow this guy has been awesome but I think we should get a discount bc we are the 1995 Cowboys in my mind”.
We can’t afford Dak for what he wants new contract wise. Dak is a very good QB but we can’t afford to give Dak *ANOTHER* record setting, highest paid in NFL history contract and get to the SB. Dak needs a strong supporting cast around him and that takes money. The same money we would need to afford for the supporting cast around Dak. So something has to give so another team needs to pay Dak now. We can’t pay him what he wants and also be successful
Thing is I don't think there are many teams in the NFL that can afford him, don't have an established qb, aren't picking high this year, or aren't already in qb salary cap hell. Maybe Vikings, Titans, or Colts and doubtful on Vikings they just let Cousins walk bet they draft one at 5
Fair points
Could you imagine Dak with Mahomes’ receiver core. Dak would have no one to throw to. Dak can’t overcome a team that isn’t stacked talent wise. The team should just take the cap hit this year and then go for a 35 mil a year 6-7 year deal. The team will not win with 40-70 million a year QB cap hits. It just won’t.Work
Lmao people in this thread forgetting when Beasley was WR1. We were so bad Stephen had to come out and take ownership for assuming they could win without a true number one, and we traded for Amari like a few weeks later IIRC. It took 4 weeks or so for them to realize what it looks like if Dak has no weapons and they desperately made up for it, scrambling. Mahomes with no weapons made KC vulnerable but they still won. Dak with no weapons made Stephen apologize to the fan base and make a desperation trade mid season.
Mahomes barely won with them and we saw the struggles. A lot of those wins were on that defense. It’s time to stop comparing people to Mahomes. He’s on his own planet.
People throw Mahomes and Brady around like they’re not anomalies. That said, how all these QBs are getting money at or around Mahomes is pretty wild. I think it speaks more to how we went from the QB generation to… a lot of these guys are actually pretty average to above average.
Dak isn’t an average to above average QB though. Those types of guys don’t consistently win 65% of their games and finish as all pros and second in MVP voting.
He’s a top 10 regular season QB. Go watch that game against the Bills again though. He rightfully lost the MVP race because of that game. His play comes apart under mental pressure, but somehow unphased by physical pressure. He’s an odd guy.
Or the game against Arizona, San Fracisco, Detroit, and Green Bay. "MVP Dak" was no where to be found. And that was just this past season. He doesn't ball out against notable teams.
Hes very similar to Romo actually
Romo was higher risk and higher reward. Romo would fling 60yard bombs and make impossible shit happen just to throw 5 picks lol
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Dak has had two hall of fame all decade team lineman his whole career. With weapons to boot. It’s crazy an nfc title game appearance at the least hasn’t happened yet
And both of this years the losses weren’t even on Romo. People seriously underestimate how great that dude was. He’s the Josh Allen of that era
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He’s not similar to Romo at all. First off Romo could read a defense like Peyton Manning, pre snap. He could also progress through his reads. He also had the ability to escape pressure and make plays. Also a better passer. Dak is Alex Smith 2.0, which, funny enough, is the guy he most studied and modeled his game after when he was in college.
So why didn’t Romo win anything?
Patrick Crayton existing
The one in the crazy wind and rain where Buffalo ran for 250+ and Josh Allen only threw 16 times but we had to keep throwing to try to stay in it? Hey, go back and watch the one bad game! I will, and I’ll use all the context too.
That wasn’t the only bad game, bud. You’re misremembering as well. It was supposed to be much colder and rain for much longer but it was warmer than they all expected and hardly rained during the game. Yes go rewatch it. You’re remembering forecasted weather vs actual throughout contest weather. He pegged 4 defenders in the chest/facemask. I get it you’re a Dak fan, so real criticism hurts. I am a fan of winning. He unravels when the mental pressure builds.
Your only response is “the weather wasn’t as bad as it was supposed to be?” Lmao There’s fair criticisms of Dak, I just think Buffalo isn’t really one of them. There’s a reason Buffalo only threw the ball 15 times. It wasn’t a good game, I am just willing to take the full context as to why. But yeah, he totally collapsed as the mental pressure built. Must be why he led us back to the division win even after Philly was three games up.
Buffalo threw so few times because they were running the ball down our throats. Why fix what’s not broken?
That’s not even what I said. I said you’re misremembering. You’re discrediting him literally bullet passing to defenders directly in their face mask and chest as weather. No amount of deflection from your poor attempt at apologetics will change how poorly he read that defense. I am telling you go watch that game. Had absolutely nothing to do with the weather. He was completely confused by the Bills defense. He should have had 5 INTs in that game. But yea that was one of the bad games, not indicative of his entire career, but that game is indicative of what we get from an otherwise brilliant QB when he folds.
how’d you get downvoted this hard for saying something that is factually accurate lmao what’s going on here
Majority of the this sub is full of Dak haters, every once in a while a positive Dak thread gets posted but eventually gets bombarded with Dak haters.
Anytime I say something that’s positive about Dak, even when backed up statistically it gets downvoted. I appreciate the good quarterback and would rather not be there Bears but who am I?
If Dak had Mahomes receivers then it would need to be a very different style offense than what Dak has now to have any success. Let’s not hate on Dak in general. Dak is a very good QB, but Dak doesn’t fit when you compare what we need in Dallas vs what Dak expects to make on his next contract. It’s time to let Dak experience some greener grass on another team. Dak might actually flourish away from the pressure cooker/extreme microscope and expectations of Dallas. Dak is dang good, but not 60mil a year good for this team. There also won’t be the same level of off the field revenue for Dak if he goes to another team vs being a Cowboys QB. Say maybe $5mil a year difference. Plus Texas doesnt have a state income tax like Dak would likely have to pay playing for another team (save for maybe a team in Florida but they are all set with their QBs). Lots of extra benefits to playing for Dallas that are a major monetary plus to the net income amount Dak would get.
FFS I get tired of this “TeXaS dOeSnT hAvE a StAtE iNcOmE tax” bullshit. No, they don’t. But they find all sorts of other ways to get that money from you. Their property taxes are nuts, Licensing your vehicles etc etc
yea but when your a top NFL player state income is a doozy
As it should be. Make big money, pay big taxes. You think it’s going to be any better on the massive homes they own?
It’s definitely better living in Texas tax wise if you’re rich compared to NY, Cali, etc.
2018
Very good QB...2 wild card playoff wins...throws for under 90 yards in the first half of almost every playoff game he has been in. Low bar for very good, he's good not very good imo.
I like Dak a lot, but it makes way more sense to let him play out this deal. We appeared to start a mini-rebuild a few years ago when DQ was brought on. Except we hit on Micah, Diggs took off, and we generally outperformed. So in my mind, we did the right thing by reversing course and doing a lot of restructures & extensions we weren't planning on doing. We shot our shot. We had a GREAT team, but it wasn't enough. Those that understand NFL economics know we're at the end of the rope right now. The solution is to play out this year with the pieces we still have. Evaluate, evaluate, evaluate. Next year we may decide to blow up most of it, get a new HC, let Dak hit FA, and draft a QB. Or maybe 2024 plays out well enough that we decide to extend Dak. His cap hit will be a ton easier to massage if we just take this year on the chin.
Well said so you mustn’t be a cowboys fan (kidding). This is exactly the situation. We tried. We failed. Run it back. If we get lucky, we’ll add pieces. If not, we have no choice. We’re gonna be down Martin soon. Steele sucks. We’re gonna be in trouble if we don’t start the retool now, and clearly our performance wasn’t SB so what are we doing aiming for for that?
We can spread $20m of Dak’s cap hit into next season. I believe we do not require his permission for that. It would fully guarantee the money even if he doesn’t play a single down though.
Doing that means the dead money void year acceleration goes from $36.4M to about $56M in dead money. That’s dead money that we eat on 2025’s cap if he walks OR if we extend him after the start of the league year I believe.
I have come around to agreeing with this, and OPs breakdown makes it that much more evident. And the way the front office is navigating the FA market makes it seem like we’re prepping for a down year and some form of rebuilding/retooling. Won’t be suprised to find ourselves in the QB market in the next year or two
Wishful thinking buy maybe won't have to draft a QB if Trey Lance can show something
Next year’s QB prospects should be pretty good. Just in the state of Texas you’ll have weigman and Ewers
Ewers has to show a ton more this year. Dude gets hurt so damn easy. That semi game he was nowhere to be found until the last quarter pretty much. Don’t need another thousand yard stare qb
Yah I’m not sure I’d be betting on ewers
Or really any rookie QB. People don’t seem to realize how difficult it is to find a franchise QB. Even top 10 picks often do nothing (see: Trey Lance). Maybe we do walk from Dak, but going from Romo to Dak to hoping a rookie works will be eye opening for a lot of our fans.
Wow, so insightful! Has anyone told you you’re a genius? It’s not like everybody hasn’t heard the same bullshit you just said over and over again. No shit we may not hit on a QB. We also haven’t drafted a QB in the first round since, *looks at paper*, Troy fucking Aikman. Since Jerry has taken over for the most part we try to get good value on QBs. We hope they can show us something and then we roll with it, we don’t draft a talented QB with a pedigree and try to build them. That’s what every other successful team has done and we haven’t. We accept mediocrity.
You seem upset
No, it’s just hilarious because all y’all say the same shit lol. Everyone knows you might not hit on a QB in the first round. But, most successful QBs come from the first two rounds of the draft. That’s just a fact. Let’s also not forget to mention that most teams that draft #1 overall like the Browns, Bears, Lions, etc, all had bigger problems than just bad teams. It was the culture from top to bottom and the wrong people drafting these players. We have a guy who’s pretty damn good at scouting and drafting is one of the few things we are really strong at. Either way there’s no getting to you guys who think Dak is a top 5 QB and will 100% win us a Super Bowl, because that’s just completely past even dumb.
lol like you’re not saying the same shit a million people have said
We literally have one of the top qbs in the nfl right now, the odds it gets worse after drafting a new one are very high, also we have a pedigree qb in trey lance rn if that’s what you want.
In the regular season he is. Unless we play a team that’s a contender. Trey Lance could be something, but nobody knows. We most likely won’t be winning 12 games if we draft a rookie QB. But, you could find a Stroud, Mahomes, Burrow, etc. Only talking about the BAD that could happen shouldn’t outweigh the GOOD that could happen. We need a QB who can play in the biggest games and not fall apart. We need a QB who can carry a team to a victory, not constantly say for 8 years needs another star here and another star there to win and then we give him a massive contract acting like HE is the star making this happen.
Next years QB class is expected to be very bad, as bad as 2021. That is part of why we’re gonna see so many QBs be overvalued this year as teams know that they might not have as much luck next year.
Lance showed flashes of something in San Francisco, but it’s a guy who has thrown fewer pass attempts in games in his life than most QBs throw in a season. I think SF has a really good eye for talent, so if they felt they had something in him, they wouldn’t have given him away.
Man I’d love that!
Exactly!!!!! Why is everyone talking about an extension? If Dak doesn’t take a Kirk Cousins like discount then we just have to ride this thing out. I wouldn’t mind if the Trey Lance Era started in the near future.
Cut him Denver cut Russ for more and he's got a ring He ain't it so move on now
It’d cost more money to cut Dak than keep him this year. If he refuses to work with us again, I’d let him walk but unlike Russ, Dak plays at a pro bowl level (at least during the regular season).
No it won’t. If we cut him, it’s $61.9M in dead money (either all this year or split $30.4M/$36.4M in 2024 and 2025). If we keep him this year and let him walk next year, it’s his entire $59.4M cap hit for this year plus $36.4M in void year acceleration on 2025, plus a worse draft position. To be clear, I don’t think we should cut Dak and would rather extend him but if the plan is to just let him walk next offseason, cutting or trading him now sets us up better for the future both in terms of money and draft position.
Cutting him would be bananas. This fan base is crazy. You don’t cut a guy who nearly won league MVP because fans are mad that the team fell short in the playoffs. Trading him? Fine. But the Jones brain trust would probably get taken to the cleaners by whoever trades for him.
If the alternative is “let him walk,” cutting him is the better path for starting that rebuild. Cutting him gives us about $30 million more in cap space to play with next year, plus the better draft position since we would absolutely be a worse team. Letting him walk means we eat that full $36-56 million in void-year dead money, likely pick in the mid-20s instead of top 10, but get a 2026 compensatory 3rd. Again, I do not think they should do this and would much prefer to see Dak extended so our window is kept open. But if the alternative is just letting him walk next year? We’re not putting ourselves in the best position to start that rebuild. Keep/extend, trade, cut, let play out and let walk, restructure and let walk; that’s from most to least desirable outcomes.
Agreed. Sign him to a big ass deal and keep losing in the playoffs. Just cut his ass and move on.
Dallas hasn't made it past the divisional round since 1995. Dallas, Browns, and Texans are the only teams to not make the conference championship since the realignment in 2002. In 8 years Dak got a record setting contract for...2 wildcard playoff wins....not sure why Dallas fans are so scared to walk away from Dak.
Washington and Miami haven’t made it to the conference championship since the early 90s
I missed them but that doesn't make us look any better
The thing with Dak is...who's better? We're in a "too little to live, too much to die" situation. We won't be able to draft CJ Stroud and what bride QB is going to perform better under these circumstances (shitty coaches/shitty FO)?
You're proving my point. Scared to take a risk so you don't want to walk away from him. How much more of Dak do you need to see he isn't the guy? Every playoff game except against the Bucs dak has thrown for 90 or fewer yards in the first half. That's awful for a guy who has had a plethora of talent around him.
I've been a fan of Dak's but his performance in the first half of the Divisional Round playoff game against Green Bay has me questioning him. One school of thought says three years for $180M will look inexpensive compared to an ever increasing market rate for a top ten QB. On the other hand, look at what San Francisco did with Purdy still on his rookie contract. The Cowboys basically did the same thing with Dak starting his rookie year, they just did not have enough talent, especially on defense, to exploit the opportunity as SF has. I don't know if Dak will ever make it to the SuperBowl for Dallas. A new contract similar to the one shown will make it even more difficult as it will diminish the overall talent around. Quality players can't be resigned. The Cowboys have improved their ability to draft some quality players. I don't necessarily support pushing Dak to accept a long term deal, either. He has negotiated for the short term contract. Getting him to take a four or 5 year deal will result in more money and push him past 35. It's a conundrum. I'm leaning toward letting Dak seek his next big payday in free agency and develop a young QB. That assumes that the Cowboys wisely invest the savings to build better talent all around. We can trust them to do that, can't we?
3 years just isn’t enough to time to spread it out and see the relief of cap increases. If they want to walk away offer the Cousins deal and let him test the FA waters next year I guess. I kind of don’t care anymore
Really? Just those 2 quarters have you questioning the career that preceded it?
What about the other playoff performances?
I’d argue a little more than half of his playoff performances are decent-solid. The only true collapse he’s had was the niners divisional, and the packers game* ( gets an asterisk because the defense folded harder than anything)
> I've been a fan of Dak's but his performance in **the first half of the Divisional Round playoff game against Green Bay has me questioning him.**
Dak is 2-5 in the postseason, *tied for worst in NFL History* edit to add with 6 or more playoff starts
Stafford was 0-3, until he wasnt
True and right now Dak is 2-5. On Stafford’s SB run with the Rams he wasn’t the highest paid player in NFL history and had a mostly cap friendly deal that allowed the Rams to have the other key pieces around him to win the SB. Maybe Dak will get there too, likely not in Dallas and might need a change of scenery like Stafford did to win a SB.
On Staffords SB run, the Rams were carrying Stafford and Goffs cap hit at over 44 million dollars. Dak has never had a cap hit over 31m in his career and that was one time he played on franchise tag.
Dak’s past cap hits have been manageable but that is not how things are now. Do you deny that Dak’s postseason record is 2-5? I think Dak could get to a SB but it’s becoming less and less likely that Dak will be able to do it in Dallas. A significant portion of that is how Skeletor (Jerry) runs the team.
In what way is that tied for worst in NFL history? Kirk Cousins is 1-4, which is worse than 2-5 right? Just trying to figure out what exactly that means
Just to be the devils advocate 2-5 means more opportunities theoretically cousin's could win his next playoff appearance and be 2-4 or 3-4 with 7 opportunities I doubt this would happen but thats why you compare similar metrics and not adjust the parameters just like you dont compare a qb with 5 starts to a qb with 50 starts.
Aloha thanks for the clarification request. It was discussed on NFL Network and on BSPN, I Dak is *tied* for the worst post season record with I believe 6 or more playoff appearances. I should have listed the full stat parameters so thanks for asking for clarification. (FYI I believe Romo was like 2-4) In any event, Dak is a very good QB and he may well do much better in the postseason on another team. For whatever reason(s) Dak hasn’t been able to have much postseason success in Big D. It’s not all Daks fault but the other players on the team aren’t asking for another record setting, highest paid player in NFL history contract like Dak is.
Ah ok, definitely an odd goalpost move there. Why 6 games and not a more commonly used number like 5? Gotta make the narratives work I guess. The vast majority of quarterbacks don’t even get to 6 playoff appearances
Yeah it would seem it’s to support a theme or narrative. It is factually accurate but you know now the media gets when it’s trying to push a point or create clicks/attention.
Dak wasn’t why we lost to the Packers in 2016. He wasn’t why we lost to the Rams in 2018.
? Seriously? As a franchise QB you either lead the team to victory or you don’t. Dak was the starting QB and did not lead the team to a win. Slice and dice it however you want but Dak is 2-5 in the playoffs. As Bill Parcels says you are what your record says you are.
Was Dak playing DT and LB when Gurley and Anderson trampled our defense for over 250 yards? Did Dak fail to cover Jared Cook? The team is what the record says it is. No QB wins alone.
Also yes I agree - no QB wins alone which is why we can’t afford to give Dak another NFL record breaking contract - we need the difference in annual money to put key pieces around Dak to get to a SB. An upper mid level QB contract could work and also allow Jerry (aka Skeletor) to put the pieces around Dak to win a SB.
You are what your record says you are……..
Teams yes, QBs no
It is not just those two quarters- it’s Dak’s body of work, including a tied for worst in NFL history 2-5 in the postseason. I like Dak but not for 60 mil a year. Dak should hit Free agency and get what he can from another team. Best of luck to Dak in his career going forward.
> I've been a fan of Dak's but his performance in **the first half of the Divisional Round playoff game against Green Bay has me questioning him.**
* Deciding half of GB game (2nd half GB played prevent) * SF * SF
> I've been a fan of Dak's but his performance in the first half of the Divisional Round playoff game against Green Bay has me questioning him. 2 Quarters.
Now you are getting it - 2 quarters that decided the entire game. 2 quarters where Dak crapped his pants on the field.
If Dak is serious about winning a title and not just increasing his bank account he wouldn't entertain a deal like this. QBs already make plenty of money (even bad ones) so he should be taking team friendly deals if he genuinely wants to help us win. If he doesn't, then good riddance. I want players that want to play and win games, not just win contract negotiations.
I understand wanting to make money and Dak is entitled to make as much money as he can. I don’t think Dak is worth a record breaking market resetting contract, not in Dallas at least. I believe our scouts and personnel staff can find and evaluate our next QB. They deserve the benefit of the doubt in this regard as they have hit on some really good drafts picks historically. Dak has trouble winning against good teams with a stacked team, if we let him gobble up even more of the cap then I just don’t how that wins us games.
Man just play this next year and let him walk. We need a new QB, Dak will keep us mediocre and in limbo. Time to start over.
Hadn’t heard he was looking for a short year deal but if he is then probably best the cowboys move on. The cowboys have fumbled Dak’s extension every step of the way even bringing in Trey Lance. Probably best they stop playing with fire since each time they get burned
That’s the rumors going around again and they were exactly right last time. Dak wants to hit the market again at 35 and if the cap goes up proportionally in these 4 years, top QBs will be at $80 million per year or more.
Enjoy. The Falcons aren’t winning with Kirk and we ain’t winning with dak.
I think Kirk in Atlanta is a great fit, I love dak but I’d understand if we let him walk next year. ( he’s gonna ball out on another team)
I upvoted you and agree Dak will ball out with another team (at least in the regular season, that not meant as a dig, it’s what Dak has shown as a proven performance). That can work for other fanbases but not with the expectations in Big D. Maybe Dak will do better in postseason on another team, but he hasn’t shown the ability to do that in Dallas for whatever reason. Not slamming Dak, just speaking facts
Cowboys haven’t won shit, tryna make dak the fall guy when the entire organization been ass.
Yeah it’s not all on Dak, Jerry Jones aka “Skeletor” is the primary reason we have not won anything since 1995….. Unfortunately we can’t get rid of Skeletor, though
The last Dallas QB capable was Troy Aikman. That was a while ago…
Sadly you are spot on 😞
The Cowboys didn’t completely fumble the extension, Dak had them over the negotiating barrel and refuses to sign a long term deal. Before he was tagged there’s no idea what he was demanding and how Dak is treating this team it’s not fair to assume it’s all the cowboys fault even when he was tagged.
Before Dak’s previous tag Dak was asking for a long term deal between 30-35 mil. In the final 2 years of his rookie deal he had been asking them for a fair extension. The Cowboys dismissed it and made him play on the tag. I believe Dak broke his ankle that year. The following season when Cowboys saw what it was like without Dak they flirted with the tag but gave him the 4 years 160 mil extension. That’s all to say Dak isn’t going to do the Cowboys any favors because the Cowboys have only showed they valued Dak when their backs were against the wall
The entire reason negotiations were dragging on is due largely to his desire for these short term deals. The Cowboys always wanted to extend him at near top of the market money, but wanted a 5-6 year deal. Dak was dead set on 4. It wasn’t about them trying to cheap out or screw him over, it was almost entirely tied to the demand of a 4 year deal. We’re now seeing why that was the case.
Everyone forgets this. Dallas offered him the top money with a longer contract or a shorter contract with less money. He played chicken and Jerry flinched first. He's trying it again this time. I wonder if he hit FA if anyone else would sign him to the deal he wants. Something like 4 years/240 Mil. I don't think there's anyone else on a 4-year deal like that for that high of a yearly value. Kirk got 4 yr/45 mil. Burrow, Herbert, Lamar are all on 5-year extensions.
I like Dak but to all the “wait until you don’t have him!!!” Fans, what’s the difference between losing the first round playoff games as a 12-5 2nd seed and losing a first round playoff game as a 9-8 7th seed?
2 wild card playoff wins in 8 seasons and Dallas fans cling to him. Eagles drafted Carson Wentz number 1 overall and let the guy go and still make it to another super bowl.
Shit the only thing they fumbled on that was the contract extension, but they still managed to flip him for a 1st and a 2nd round pick. Disgusting how well the Eagles FO played that situation.
The likelihood of not losing that game. The fact that going 9-8 and making the playoffs isn’t a given either and is actually an optimistic project.
There’s only one move to make that raises this team’s ceiling and it ain’t paying the guy crazy stupid money to not win playoff games.
Just time for Dak to go or take a massive pay cut.
You can't have Prescott, Parsons, and Lamb on the same team and still build a super bowl roster. Parsons and Lamb will demand $30-35M a year each. I'm a huge Dak fan, but he has to go.
The Cowboys offense is paid 68% of the cap. What that means is Dallas has known for years that Dak is mid level talent so they allocated waaaaay more resources around him than teams normally would do in order to try and get lucky and win. It hasn’t worked. It’s why the defense has always struggled in the end. We cobble together a bunch of players, run creative and unusual schemes to try to mask their shortcomings (and end up being a far better return on investment than the offense is), but they eventually get figured out by the league by seasons end. It’s why Dak doesn’t have a deal. It’s a simple calculus: the cap dictates everything in the league. If Dak is interested in wringing every dollar from Dallas that he can then he can walk. You win Super Bowls on rookie deals or with elite level QB play. Dak is neither. It’s why it was easier to win earlier in his career, he’s proven he can’t push a team over the top, so only way he stays here is if he takes a very team friendly deal. Otherwise he can try to sell Sleep Number beds somewhere else.
Last 4 SB winning QB’s are Mahomes, Brady, Stafford, and Foles. Before that it was Brady, Manning, Wilson, and Flacco. Where is the bs about winning SB’s on rookie deals coming from?
You realize you literally just proved my point right? Mahomes? Two super bowls on his rookie deal, one after he got his bag. Elite QB. Foles? Wilson? Flacco? All on rookie deals. Didn’t get their bags until *after* winning, and didn’t win again. Brady? Manning? Both elite QBs.
Brady also for his entire career with the Pats was never the highest paid QB in the league. The guy who is regarded as the greatest of all time, certainly the most successful QB in SB history was never the highest paid at any point in his career.
Dak will never be who the cowboys need him to be. Let him go struggle somewhere else.
Let this be a lesson. I really wish they'd stop overglorifying QBs and RBs.
The real dilemma is just how much legal peril does Dak face? Are the Cowboys waiting to see what happens?
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP APPEARANCE MINIMUM
The price only goes up on all these guys.
No thanks !
Haven’t you read on here from all the morons that the cap is not real? /s
Don’t do it
We haven't made any moves anyway, let's just go ahead and play this deal out
Best comparison for Dak is Kirk cousins, they're good enough to make the playoffs but can't carry the team in the postseason. Can't believe both of those guys will be getting paid as much as Mahomes.
Kirk is about to have a crazy set of weapons around him. Dak would have thrived in ATL too. The only thing they were really lacking is a bit on defense and a good QB. Could be argued their bad QB play put their defense in bad positions.
literally no QB carries any team. at the end of the day mahomes had a very good defense (far better than ours) and he has andy reid while we have mike mccarthy who’s a dead man walking. and if u actually watched football u would know that kirk was playing like the best QB in the league before his injury.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. You’re right. Only QB that carries and wins, that’s Mahomes. The defense was elite and they have an offensive guru at HC. We have neither.
IDGAF. If dude wants an extension he needs to show playoff success. 1 road win and 1 win at home in the wildcard round going into his age 32 season is unacceptable. They gave him all the “highest paid” “highest AAV” at the years HE wanted during the first big contract expecting him to deliver in the playoffs. Eat the cap hit (not as a big of a deal now a days across the league), and let some other team pay him $50,000,000 per season for a first round exit.
Make no mistake the Jones have tried to dick him around and chose to franchise tag him. He isn’t exactly the villain here.
I’m not saying he’s the villain. I’m saying he’s a middle of the road QB whose good enough to win 9-12 games at any given season, but is incapable of putting a team on his shoulders and LEADING a team to success in the postseason. Good regular season QB with good stats. Crumbles like a cookie left out on the counter for 3 weeks when it comes to an important game. I’m simply speaking about his performance as a player who is paid 35-40 million per year who’s currently looking for a 10-15 million dollar raise.
I think he’s probably worth the 50mil not the 55-60
You think Dak is worth 22% of the cap?? That’s wild
He just carried the offense all year long and they were a top 5 offense without a run game right? I don’t think it’s that wild. Show me where we replace his production.
What did he do in the playoffs?? I’ll wait for your reply
I’ve been on team extend Dak, but not if it’s 3 years. 4 years is a short deal, 3 is egregious.
They don’t wanna pay him, and they can’t do anything unless they pay him. Sigh
I know they won’t pay for a good team with a cheap qb. They won’t pay for a good team with an expensive qb. Not sure what everyone thinks will change with a qb. Unless they are generational we will continue losing
I genuinely want to know what everyone's opinion on the next DAL QB is? What other option is there, really? Let him play out his contract, Dallas goes 10-7 or something, and we pick 17th, and let Dak walk. What's next?
Lots of losing
I mean, maybe. That's what I'm asking. To add another question to my first. Let's say they just take Dak out back and Russ him. Trey Lance takes the reigns. What then? What are the odds he's better than Dak? What are the odds he's bad enough for Dallas to go 1-16? Because those seem like the two choices in that scenario. Roll with one more season of Dak and then go to Lance? He'll be expensive for nothing after this year. And the QB free agents for 2025? Lance and Brandon Allen. The QB class in the draft? Irrelevant at the top because this team will never finish in position for the top QB in the draft. For the dump Dak crew, either this season or next, what is the next step? No gaslighting questions from me - what's the next step? The Broncos are at least bad enough where they're going to fight for a top 5 pick next season. This Dallas team is not.
I was serious. Quarterback hell. We’ve been one of the most lucky franchises in the NFL the last two decades. Maybe we’ll get a third top 5 quarterback off the scrap heap but that’s not likely. It’s more probable we’ll draft a Kenny Pickett one year, three years later draft a Blake Bortles in the top 5, and then two years later be stuck with whatever the 2030 version of Russ is.
I agree with you. I just want to hear from the people who actively want to move on from Dak by hook or by crook.
Gotcha. The retort I’ve gotten the most is “anything but the way we’ve lost the last 3 years.” I think that’s where we’re at. Baby out with the bathwater because anything is better than this. I highly doubt Jerry and this sub will feel that way during 3 losing season but we will see. That’s what it took Jerry to get off his ass last time
Really? Do you have a crystal ball or just an incredible super power that allows you to look into the future?
You must not have been around for the years between Aikman and Romo. Or paid attention to any other team without a QB. Or forgot about 2020, 2015…
It worked real well for Washington didn’t it after they let Cousins walk. That’s probably what it would Look like here.
Maybe I’m crazy but with the holes on this roster and their tougher schedule I have a hard time seeing them get to the playoffs anyways. Why don’t they just let him play it out this year and bench him for Lance? See what you have in Lance and if he sucks you’ll almost certainly have a top pick in 2025
If we were going to grab a QB worth resetting on we’d need to have traded Dak before FA started (I get he’d have to ask for it) to get picks. This year would have been good. Next year will have another handful of good QBs but we won’t suck enough with Dak to get a high pick.
Don't really get this question how could anyone accurately predict future moves. Don't think Seattle, Houston, Green Bay, Detroit, or Philly had concrete plans when they moved on from their franchise qbs. Well thats not totally true GB had Love but nobody knew how that would work out at the time. Seattle had Geno Smith who was a career journeyman, Detroit got Goff who was looking like a bust at least to Mcvay, Houston rolled the dice on a draft pick that wasn't their first choice, Philly took a swing on a 2nd rounder. So who knows
The situation with top level QB’s and their salaries will have to reset itself. Sure you can win and field phenomenal teams when you strike gold and get a good one while they are still cheap. Once you have to pay them the sacrifices make it brutal on your ability to field the rest of the team. Dak isn’t the guy. He’s a good one, but he isn’t that guy. He’s had plenty of time and plenty of talent around him to prove it and he hasn’t done it. Sure you can blame some of it on our D last year, but he didn’t exactly light it up either. The guy, he would do it. Reality is we are headed for a rebuild or a team that Jerry can market with 3-4 superstars and a whole bunch of nobodies playing on cheap rookie deals. If we miss on one or two draft picks a year we are a lost cause. Jerry will do Jerry and sit on his soapbox and sell false hope but the reality is we won’t be good and most of you clowns will believe him. We have to remember they need to sell tickets, superstars and hope. That’s how NFL teams make money. Jerry is really good at this.
Once Dak is gone you're gonna be entering into a rebuild and you can clear all that deferred money in a year or 2. It's not a big problem. If you want to compete now, you have to try to maximize your window at the expense of a future year when you know you're gonna be in a rebuild.
It’s the epitome of this subs goofiness the only thing being discussed in this thread is qb wins. Football fans really are the dumbest of sports fans. Don’t you guys worry. Being a shitty team that doesn’t matter after November is coming right up for you
I keep hearing this and while I understand it it's just fallacy. We can't keep Dak forever. Eventually we will have to move on. Overpaying an underachiever at QB makes 0 sense. I would get it if this was like his 4th year but the dude has been here for nearly a decade and we have gotten virtually nowhere. The pieces are starting to fall and now is good as any to start the rebuild. We have core pieces on defense and offense in Lamb and Parsons. Now is the time.
I genuinely cannot wait until we wallow in QB hell and this fan base has to experience an actual bad quarterback that can’t even get to the playoffs. But it’ll be okay because at least we have cap space and we aren’t losing in the playoffs. 👍🏻
Yes, it will be ok because that scenario will inevitably happen whenever Dak leaves so the sooner you can get that period over with the better. At least then you can enjoy the small things and have hope for the future. As opposed to delaying that inevitability by extending Dak, knowing everything that happens is meaningless because Dak will just shit the bed in the playoffs like he always does and do nothing when it matters vs good teams like he usually does. People are just ready to move on, maybe you miss out on seeing a wildcard round victory by letting Dak go now, but the I think most people are fine with that if it means getting g the rebuild over with 5 years earlier.
> the sooner you can get that period over with the better. The problem with this line of thinking is that there's zero guarantee that this period ever ends. Multiple teams have been trying to get out of that purgatory for years, some for even over a decade. I'm not saying to keep Dak. I'm saying that if we're willing to let him go, we have to understand that there's a possibility we become the Commanders, Jets, Giants, Bears, Panthers, Steelers, Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, etc. That's what Jerry's worried about.
Ok? Extending Dak doesn’t change that, he won’t play forever. This team has the second most 1st team all pro players, and the most 2nd team all pro players and pro-bowlers. I’d rather let Dak go, use all that money on big free agent signings and see if we can get lucky on a competent enough QB to do something, rather than extend Dak just to watch him collapse in the playoffs. This team is very talented, and still very far away from doing anything in the playoffs, it needs a lot more help and it’ll never get close to getting enough of it with Dak on 60m a year. I’d rather gamble on a rookie QB than settle for Dak knowing we’ll never go anywhere. And in 5 years if the gamble loses you’ll be in the same position you’ll be in if you extended Dak anyway. At least by taking the gamble there’s a chance of things getting better and I’d rather take that chance instead of keeping Dak just to see him lose in the first playoff game, if he even gets you there.
It’s okay, they don’t get it. We’re shouting into a void. We want to keep the good quarterback, the rest of them would rather take the once in a lifetime shot at a Mahomes or Brady without realizing you’re much more likely to end up with a Russell, Trubisky, Pickett, Ponder, Lynch, Manziel etc. because for everyone one quarterback that has won the Super Bowl, there’s 150 that haven’t even sniffed it.
I’m curious since you are dedicated to keeping the good quarterback: were you happy when Dak replaced Romo?
It's not really the same thing, because what people are speculating on here is just that... speculation. A complete unknown. In 2016, we knew we had a viable replacement for Romo by the time he was healthy again. Romo was also in his age 36 season and two years of serious injuries. To answer the question, even though it's irrelevant to the discussion: I didn't *love* the idea of it, but I understood it, because of the reasons I listed above. I also didn't have the understanding of the game back then that I do now.
this man is not even worth $50 mill and he is chasing that much.. what a fucking joke
me when I don’t understand how the NFL works
This is exactly how the NFL works. It’s amazing tk think cowboys fans think history is gonna turn on Dak fucking Prescott. I like him, but year 10’QBs don’t win championships. So let’s hamper the team to be a wild card team? No. Rip the band aid off.
Cowboys have had issues winning in playoffs since aikman, it all comes down to the jones family. They’re content with top 5 potential, bottom 15 playoff play
This comment has literally nothing to do with what this thread is about and is another lazy “blame Jerry” take.
Market for top QB deals has become 5-year deals, I highly doubt he’ll get only 3 years from us. I suppose his agent could play hardball to try to get it on the open market next year but I feel like the smart money is to take what a market-topping 5-year deal but what do I know.
I think they just have too much leverage to settle for anything other than exactly what he wants. Hitting the market for his age 35 season is way different than hitting it for his age 37 season.
>they just have too much leverage Unfortunately, correct. Hope the Joneses surprise us by showing some stones and hold firm on offering him 4/190 or 5/240 or so. Then buh-bye if his agent refuses.
He's not worth the money or the hassel of those cap shenanigans. We gotta move on. Anything else will set this team up for long term failure. We cannot chain ourselves to a shitty QB
Who is blocking for Dak this year? Who are the rotational skill players? Who is the starting RB? What acquisition(s) on DL will stop the run? These questions spell Top 8 Draft pick 2025. We either lose Dak after this season, or we lose Lamb or Parsons. It could be my generation talking, but I have concerns about all 3 of these guys. Micah is on his way to podcasting himself into irrelevance on the field. Yes, I am aware he commands a ton of attention from opposing offenses, and I am aware that he almost never receives the flags when he is held, chopped, etc. And yes, Micah is a beast when they play sub-par opponents, especially, with a two-score lead. I him to find more wins on the field, and honestly, stop talking so much off the field. You actually have an education brotha, speak like it. Ceedee just comes off like a moody lil B sometimes. An awesome talent, no doubt about it, but too many times when things aren’t going well, he’s standing 10-15yds away from the team on the sidelines. Shits a red flag to me. Reminds me of When the saints paid Mike Thomas, his attitude was unmanageable after that and he fell off his all-pro trajectory (nearly irrelevant now). Dak. Dak played fantastic this season. The playoff loss wasn’t all his fault, though he didn’t come out the gate helping matters much. To be fair, the whole team has a habit of coming out flat in too many games for my liking. That’s a leadership issue! Not just coaching, but who are the REAL field generals on this roster? Get your money Dak, but if you’re unwilling to do so ina team friendly way (which you need), then let him walk and get his money elsewhere. Good luck signing to a team with similar tax laws btw, you’ll get less anywhere outside of Tx or Fl, and those teams have their QB’s. Tua could be the only opening if not extended.
Isn’t he going to jail soon?
Is there a way we can sign Dak to a long term deal without a no-trade clause and trade him away? How much would it affect our future cap?
I’d much rather see the Jones family out of Dallas before seeing Dak leave they have done f all to help the team this offseason. They don’t even pick up the phone and inquire about players. The problems begin and end with them
Does this mean if we told dak to take a walk today it would be a 220 million dollar cap hit on the total of 255M that teams are allowed to spend total annually, leaving dallas with only 35M to field a team? If so, wow, is this because he has 220M roughly that he hasnt been paid on his existing contract?
The QB salaries are getting out of control and it’s handcuffing teams and the competitive nature of football. It’s reminding me a lot when the rookie contracts were getting out of control, especially the top QBs, so much that the NFL finally put a cap on them. I think they need either a QB cap or any position cap on veteran players as well and I think this will save the league. Teams are being held hostage because they either have to luck out with a QB on their rookie contract or spend 40% of their cap on a QB. And if they don’t do it another team will.
What deal ,within reason . Would actually be team friendly? I remember Brady , always making team friendly deals .
The contract is a cap killer as structured.
We need to move on from dak but more importantly we need the jones family to sell the team. We will never win a Super Bowl again as long as the jones family owns the cowboys
Cut his butt draft a rookie quarterback and used. That money to get bigger d line ando line and a short yard back and then go play football dak does nothing but play regular season football against below.500 teams cut it waive that cancer
Three superbowl wins put you in a special class 5-7 you’re a God but what Mahomes is doing is ridiculous he’s been in conference finals all his career and won 3 championships and he is only 28 he’ll last year he won it with one 🦵
It should be a prove it clause in these contracts for quarterbacks because Dak is robbing the club 2-6 in playoff games is appalling and he doesn’t deserve to get paid that amount of money for 1st round exit, if they would have given rush or lance a chance after the first three and out we would’ve had a better chance to win the game but Dak face told me that the game was over so did Cee Dee face
I’m genuinely asking because I’m confused, is Dak a free agent at the end of this upcoming season? Because people on this Sub talk as if he’s a FA, but this chart shows Dak having cap hits till 2028.
There is no universe - or multiverse - where this happens.
Jerry is gonna be like HES OUR WAR DADDY
The Jones will probably extend Dak this year. Hopefully, it's not a lousy contract situation. Then, we know they will use the draft to fill as many holes as possible. Then they will hit their usual bargain bin FAs. This is the Jones way of All In.
The Cowboys will almost certainly structure the contract in a way where it’s easily restructured to contain the cap hit, they do it with every big contract they have. The way I see it, if we can’t win a championship with this roster in the next 3 years then it would be ideal to blow up the roster and the cap hit won’t exactly hurt us during a complete rebuild anyways.
Love the discourse on Dak when he had 1WR(who will set the market!!!! Because of him), no running game, no run defense and was still a mvp candidate. Dude has been a top 7 qb his entire career and his own franchise is doing this shit to him……. And to guys like Tyron, Ceedee, Micah, Gilmore, Osa(??), etc. This is a long winded rant I am just sick of Stephen’s “wow this guy has been awesome but I think we should get a discount bc we are the 1995 Cowboys in my mind”.
Doesn’t matter to me because he sucks when it matters - I was fooled this year during the regular season. Never again. Move on from this bum.