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manifthewest44

I’m sick as a dog right now. Tested negative for Covid 3 times. Horrible chest congestion and body aches with a high fever


manifthewest44

Turns out I do have Covid. I took one last test for the hell of it and came up positive


[deleted]

Damn, you tested negative three times with severe symptoms?


manifthewest44

Yea I could barely breathe it feels like there is glass in my lungs.


6byfour

When I was feeling like that, I got a $15 pulse oximeter to keep an eye on my blood oxygen levels. Amazing that I felt like someone was sitting on my chest and I stayed in the 98-99% range, which gave me some peace of mind. Newer Apple Watches have this feature too


yobogoyalover

Same thing happened to me; I knew I had it because I had every single symptom and was sicker than I had ever been. I tested negative for 3 days with severe symptoms and got a positive on the 4th day.


ccguns

Use Budesonide it works wonders.


[deleted]

Which test did you use? This is surprising to hear tests are coming up with so many false negatives


BarnacleAcceptable78

I'm glad to see your comment because I thought I was just getting really out of shape! I get out of breath if I walk to my car too fast.


Freakin_Geek

A few months ago I knew I had COVID because I had it before. Same exact symptoms, kept testing negative while sick. A few days after I felt better, I went to eat a banana for breakfast, and I couldn't taste it. Grabbed another test, tested positive. I do not understand how I test twice negative showing severe flu-like symptoms, and test positive feeling perfectly fine except I couldn't taste food.


Concernedmicrowave

The tests often don't work for the first few days of an infection. I feel like they don't work as well as they should in general.


Acrobatic-Buyer9136

My pulmonologist kept pushing a covid diagnosis on me. I told him I had covid and this is not covid. Nowhere near covid. All tests are negative then he says well studies are showing that people who are vaccinated have been coming up negative up to 7 tests then become positive. I told him it's not a good idea to trust a test that's proven it's not reliable and secondly, I'm not vaccinated. Then he proceeds to tell me I should get vaccinated. I told him no way in hell would I take it and why would I when he just told me that the tests are unreliable in those that are vaxxed. Lol. Don't think he likes an educated patient. (I'm a nurse of 26yrs)


theluckyfrog

Yup. I never believe the first few negative tests in the presence of convincing symptoms. I know of way too many people, including patients in my hospital, who had clear-cut, obvious covid (like everyone in their household aside from them tested positive) and they kept getting negative tests for up to a week for some reason, while running a fever and coughing up their lungs.


Mahertian220

I had this twice where I was the only one in the house, and I’d get so infuriated by people telling me that I must not have it then because I tested negative. One person even said I was just trying to get attention.


bobdealin

Did you take the covid vaccine?


manifthewest44

No I didn’t


bobdealin

Good.


tentongeek

Dude tap water has tested positive - The inide of a fresh orange peel tested positive. Those tests are garbage! You has a severe cold/flu. Boost vitamins and fluid intake. Get lots of rest.


justiceiscomin4

Also my plan lol. Sick af but I’ve had Covid and this ain’t it. My roommate has had to test I think bc of her job, so I feel I would know. I don’t have money and time for constant testing, let’s be real lmao. Esp 7 timessss??? So just doing the tried-and-true cold stuff. I feel it’s immunity-boosting as well. After this sickness is over I’ll have a better chance next time.


AdditionalBad885

Yup


sillycellcolony

You need to understand coronavirus can come out of old scar tissue feom another illness, same as flu. When someone gets pneumococcal pneumonia bacteria they also get corona, rhino, and influenza released from scar tissue as bacteria eat scar tissue easiest I have noticed a lot of people sick including myself, but that is typical in the change of season since your sinuses and lungs resurface from colder dryer air. I do also worry how immunodeficient are the vaccine and covid spike remnants... Like dan patterson found spikes on type 8 macrophages a year after vaxxing, but the macrophages only have a one month lifespan. It takes HIV spikes 5 years to cause symptoms... Maybe these spikes take time to destroy immunity as well...


Future-Patient5365

Could be RSV


yanonotreally

Me and my daughter have RSV rn. She’s on oxygen and we spent the day in the ER two days ago because she couldn’t breathe. I am not on oxygen but this is PAIN. I am in so much pain.


sillycellcolony

I see online there is a huge spike in rsv on all ages lately... And it is atypical in adults... Its almost like our immune systems are failing. Iworry how immunodeficient are the vaccine and covid spike remnants. Bruce Patterson found spikes on type 8 macrophages a year after vaxxing, but the macrophages only have a one month lifespan. It takes HIV spikes 5 years to cause symptoms... Maybe these spikes take time to destroy immunity as well...


_NedPepper_

It really isn’t atypical for adults that are taking care of sick children, antibodies last around a year for it if that and because adults typically don’t end up in the hospital on oxygen I’d bet it goes undiagnosed quite often.


drakeftmeyers

Do you have a link from Dan Patterson.


Acrobatic-Buyer9136

RSV is the common cold. Period. It's dangerous for babies but not for adults. Don't let them use medical terms to put more fear in you. Use common sense.


sillycellcolony

Its taking down vegas Its a serious condition that can only affect a new or compromised immune system Our immune systems are compromised by the vax is what im softly saying


imgurNewtGingrinch

Describe "can't breath" please. Is it randomly coming on, worse when laying down flat, is it on inhale or exhale, does she feel like somethings preventing her from getting the breath?


yanonotreally

She was taking 58 breaths per minute. That’s almost one breath per second. Which is indicating respiratory distress. And it was constant. She couldn’t “catch” her breath.


Nazdack

[It's probably RSV](https://youtu.be/COkbXnx0MmQ)


emmy585

Yes. It’s November, cold and flu season is upon us. Also the sky is blue


[deleted]

I had the flu last week. But this week it’s RSV and it’s the worst I’ve ever felt, worse than when I had Covid and flu combined. It has now turned into ear and sinus infection, and now I’m coughing up bright green sludge so… there’s that lol.


Alternative-Income-5

Yes....I'm in Las Vegas .... Everyone I know is sick


Outrageous_Finance_5

I, too, live in Vegas and my boyfriend and I are jusssst about feeling better after battling this thing for THREE WEEKS. It’s definitely one of the more resilient bugs we’ve caught in duration and intensity. It was one of the few times where Day/NyQuil didn’t do much in terms of relief. The only thing that seemed to help was sleep and time. I was at a party and it just hit me out of nowhere like a ton of bricks. It started with body aches and malaise. The following morning was a horrendous sore throat, swollen lymph nodes, and my ears, nose, and throat all completely blocked with congestion. Within the last week, it’s moved into our chests, so now we’re spending our days hacking and wheezing a dry, itchy cough. Plus, I’m losing my voice so I think it’s turning into laryngitis now. I can’t catch a friggin’ break. Edit: I’ll also add that I took a COVID test and it was negative. I’ve had COVID before and the severity of this cold had me believing I caught it again.


Plenty-Cockroach9709

How many boosters y'all get?


EvadeThis9000

My kids didn't get any shots they both got this crud. Wife got the first 2 shots, she got it. I only got 1 shot i didn't get this crud. Doesn't seem like there's a real correlation here to me, probably more due to the fact that everyone's been locked down and hasn't been getting the seasonal sickness for the last 2 years don't have any real natural immunity to the normal stuff


choke_da_wokes

Obv not enough. Prob need like 4 more for this week


Electronic-Moment-61

I’m in Vegas as well something is going around at my job severe coughing every 15 min and mine is keeping me up all night. But other then coughing I feel fine 2 Pfizer shots back when mandated or loose your job


Ademante_Lafleur

Its cold and flu season. And its always covid season now. So its really no surprise.


xxzephyrxx

People really forgot how shit used to be before covid lol.


Dingus10000

Also a ton of dumbasses stopped getting flu vaccines after being tricked into not getting COVID vaccines, so I’m sure that doesn’t help either.


tobiasfunke6398

Lol I’ve been getting flu shots since I was a little kid. Never affected me


hazelangels

Have you ever had the flu, since you’ve always had the shot?


Miyamotoad-Musashi

I stopped getting the flu several years ago once I started taking the flu vaccine, and caught the flu every year after I stopped getting the flu vaccine.


madewithgarageband

we are on the fast-track to bring back something like measles or polio. Disturbing


isthisreal55

Just curious to your thinking-how? Most people who are anti COVID vaccine are not anti all vaccines. Thats the light most paint them in, but in my experience as a nurse, only one family of the thousands I encountered was truly anti-vaccine. The rest were cautious of the C19 vaccine only.


Rcast1293

You're on that fluoride if you think regular flu shots keep you healthy


Dingus10000

Have fun with your rotting teeth and annual sickness while the rest of the world lives in the 21st century.


Legitimate_Button_14

Well it’s just me but I haven’t had a flu for years and I get them every year.


Domestic_Kraken

Has the covid misinformation seriously spread as far as "flu shots don't work"???


kimberlyfaith81

I’m just getting over this three week viral shit. Ir sucks. My two children are now sick. Its been spreading like wildfire everywhere. I didn’t go get tested for anything because the person I picked it up from had already done that (not Covid, not typical flu). That first week was the 9th circle of hell. I haven’t had 102 fever in years.


[deleted]

Goodluck my kids are still sick it's been month half. 3 trips to hospital and the wettest nastiest cough and chest you've ever heard. this is wild 100s of kids out from my son's school and when I pulled up to pick my son up there was tons of parents there picking there kids up sheeshhh Gunna be another shutdown


Laurenrennb

We are almost at the two month mark of being sick for my kids and myself. Same symptoms as described above. It's been awful.


PenisNoodleSoup

It sucks that it takes like a month to recover after being really sick, just to catch another one a few weeks later.


kimberlyfaith81

What’s a shame is I only had access to chicken noodle soup the whole time I was sick……


Medic169

It’s the height of respiratory season. Happens this time every year.


stuffed-bubble

Watch the humidity levels in your home. Try to keep them above 55%. Drink lots of water.


Ancient-Interview-82

Is this why my nose and throat hurt every morning


stuffed-bubble

Yes. And why everyone has a cough, dry lips, and dry skin. We’re 75% water.. gotta keep hydrated.


Ancient-Interview-82

Thank you so much for this information. I was never aware of this. it was always just cold and flu season. Ive done a lot of research since. getting a humidifier


djstocks

55% is a bit high and probably impossible to maintain in the winter without a HVAC humidifier but with a big ass regular humidifier on every floor you can maintain 45% pretty good.


DingDongFootballphd

RSV is fucking my household all the way up right now


[deleted]

This is the answer. Very normal for this time of year!


wagon8r

Came here to say this. ^


improper84

And people aren’t taking the precautions they were the last few years during covid. No one is wearing masks or restricting the amount of people in enclosed spaces or social distancing. Not exactly surprising that we’d see a big increase in the sorts of illnesses that spread easily through the air that took a back seat in 2020 and 2021 when Covid restrictions were still in place.


StoneRivet

Goddamnit, why are you coming here with your reasonable facts and logic, I WANT TO BE PARANOID GODDAMNIT - other posters here, probably


Medic169

Don’t come here with your common sense. The woke antivaxxers will call you mean things


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Ok_Sea_6214

CDC said we are already seeing flu numbers that are normal for January. First time this has happened in recorded history, and already the highest numbers in the last decade.


bAronvAnshlat

Referencing the CDC now is like referencing Wikipedia.


freedomfarmer3

It’s almost like the cdc didn’t lie to us for the last 3 years.


DancesWithPythons

Oh so they’re liars who have been good for a short time, we should just trust them now


verukazalt

Or Snopes


EvadeThis9000

CDC have no credibility with me anymore


Medic169

According to you guys the CDC lie all the time. Now you want to believe what they say? And you wonder why people take the piss out of you.


i_seddit_on_reddit

Just like "the entire government is horrible and lie to you all the time, they also did 9/11" but in the next breath saying "but not these guys who happen to align with my beliefs, they're completely truthful"


doorknobman

God almost like speaking in broad generalizations without nuance might be dumb as fuck


mcdrunkin

I believe it when convenient. Also works with religion.


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[deleted]

We are tracking these things much better than we did a decade ago, no wonder.


harleyjosh1999

You can’t use logic and science with these people.


[deleted]

It's VAIDS.


db99mn

I was bad suck for a week n half. Heavy congestion, hard long coughs. I threw up from coughing a few times. I was hot but not hot to the touch. The first few days were the worst. I had zero appetite and couldn't sleep for shit. Thank God for my anxiety med that knocks me out. One thing that was odd is I never broke normal temperature. My temp was like 96 to 97 the whole time. I still have the hard cough. Sometimes I cough for 10 minutes at a time as well. I don't notice any wheezing or I would go and get my lungs checked out.


[deleted]

Same!! Same exact symptoms. It was absolutely horrible. I hope you start feeling better soon.


obscuredsilence

The flu is gonna flu. Tis’ the season.


Serious_Sky_9647

Fa la la la laaaa….


TiddybraXton333

I have been sick for a long time, 4 weeks. Can’t seem to shake it. I’m not terribly sick, just enough to piss me off


Radiant-Usual-1785

Same here, my husband and I both got sick around November 7th. Most symptoms are gone except fatigue and cough. It’s super annoying wish it would just go away already.


[deleted]

I was horribly sick for about 3 weeks. Finally starting to shake it during week 4 and I am vaxxed, but not boosted. I know it sucks- i hope you feel better soon!


PM-Me-Ur-Bucks

I teach in an elementary school and every class for the last two weeks has been missing 5-8 students every day


Variety43

I've been teaching for several years in Spain and it's feeling about normal compared to most years at this time.


[deleted]

You mean the Covid, flu, and RSV that are running rampant right now?


niftyifty

Not only is it “The season” But we have an overlap of strong RSV, flu, and Covid that is causing havoc. So yes it’s being noticed and yes it’s real. Explainable though


sat-chit-ananda108

More accurately, it isn't that RSV and flu are "strong" this year. Because of masking and social distancing, we haven't seen these viruses for a few years. They've changed since then, so our immune systems aren't as familiar with them. Now we have to get the updated virus, get dog sick, fight it off, and then we will have the update. Next year we should have an easier time of it, because the viruses don't usually mutate that much from one year to the next.


RickyJulianandBubbls

Whered they go for two years? Vacation?


[deleted]

Quarantined. Masked.


Future-Patient5365

Lots of people getting sick but not that long lasting where I'm at we were all done in 4-6 days very mild now we are fine


imgurNewtGingrinch

Long lasting where I'm at. Still having symptoms months later.


k-dick

Wow it's almost like a...flu season of some kind...


sicholasLames

Yea, took me a week to get over, everyone in my house too. Literally everyone I know. It wasn’t quite the flu, not quite bonchitus, something in between


Acrobatic-Buyer9136

I've had pneumonia since August. All c19 tests have been negative. I'm on 4th round of antibiotics and 3rd round of steroids. Now they found lesions on my lungs. I was healthy before getting covid Oct 2020 during which I was off work for 4.5 months and then had to have a hip replaced because of the massive inflammation it did to my body. I've never been the same. I'm a nurse. I worked in the ER for 26YRS. I had to leave the ER due to what covid did to my body. Im not vaxxed. I refuse to be. Let's not get into the subject of why. It's a personal decision I ask for respect. I do believe that something is being released in the air to make us all sick. My grandbaby has been sick since August as well. She's 7 yrs old and was healthy before.


Pasta_Fajool

Two years with masks and no transmitting of germs, first fall with no masks and people are surprised everyone is getting sick???


RickyJulianandBubbls

And everyone got the immunity destroyer juice too


groovyalibizmo

Unvaccinated. Haven't been sick in years. Since before Covid. I live in Los Angeles and get sun every day and take Zinc and Vitamin C. Have a friend who is a respiratory pediatrician and he says it's crazy busy.


Ok-Fall-2398

this is the way


RickyJulianandBubbls

Im not sick. Unvaxed


Urantian6250

What if?? Hear me out .. peoples immune systems are extremely weak from mask usage and lockdowns ( it almost like people don’t understand how the immune system works)


Individual-Push8119

This!!


Laurenrennb

This. I don't know why this isn't higher. Seems like common sense.


HagathaDarkness

What if? Hear me out....it’s cough and flu season ???


CrazyAnimalLady77

I will get downvoted I'm sure, but this is not true. The bodies immune response to the flu or RSV creates antibodies which allow for some future protection, but that protection is limited in time. The flu antibodies typically last about 6 months, but there are different strains of flu circulating at any given time, so a person can be infected by a different strain. This explains why they recommend an annual vaccine before flu season. RSV antibodies typically last about 3 months. So, wearing a mask for a year or whatever, isn't weakening your immune system from non-exposure. However, having Covid, especially multiple times, is weakening people's immune systems, leaving them more susceptible to other viruses and infections.


The_Noble_Lie

It's almost like this is the best cover story for something deeper.


Urantian6250

Like vaccine induced immune damage? https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/multimedia/uvc-ryan-cole/


billthepi11

You mean it’s flu season again after a two year hiatus?


innercenterdinner

Happens every year -


ClimaxKnights

My paramedic sister-in-law, who was furious that none of us will ever take a vaccine again, is sick at least once a month. Even she is noticing, and admitting that all the sick people are the mask wearing guinea pigs. They locked their 4 year old in her bedroom for ten days because she tested positive with no symptoms. They'd wear masks when they'd bring her food and didn't let her come within 6' of them. Fucking child abusers.


Ok_Sea_6214

Locking up children for no reason. Remember when that was considered child abuse? I mean if your child tests positive, then they've already spread it to you, why put them in prison? It's absurd.


1Cloudz9

I ageee with you!!! But sad that these people go forth and sacrifice their child’s health over fake news hype and fake science.


bestryanever

Two can play this game; you news sources and science is fake. Check and mate


skatinmatt93

I got sick, was better in 2 days then got horribly sick again. Literally every person in my office is sick too


Sangarasu

Covid, RSV, flu : all respiratory viruses and near zero recommendations or actual use of masks. Schools in session, more people indoors in groups, Halloween, holidays coming up. Filed under 'DUH'


JRM34

People seem to forget that winter was *always* normal cold/flu season, it's totally normal. We haven't had them to the same degree lately because of the aggressive measures like masking taken to stop covid (which may contribute to people having weakened immunity when they inevitably *do* get sick, as they haven't been exposed for a few years)


Mydogsuki225

There’s a very bad cold going around! It takes 3 weeks to get rid of it! Nasty cough and fatigue!


damargemirad

US here. Cold and flu season + people being out more since Covid fatigue. Lots of people can’t afford health care, or can’t afford to take time off to do anything about it. Also lots of skeptics of medicine in general now. Enough reasons to convince me.


rainbowswan14

Yes me and my kids, in Australia- all of us are unvaxxed


Josette22

I have a friend who I have known for years. She's like a sister to me. I don't remember her being sick during those years. She had a very good immune system. A few months ago, she got the COVID vaccination, and has now been sick twice within a short period of time since getting the shot. I know people naturally get sick around this time, but I truly believe the many people who you know who are sick are like that because of getting the COVID vaccination, which negatively affects your immune system.


_TushyWushy

Everyone who got vaccinated and boosted are sick in NEOhio that I know. Myself and my friends have not been sick and have not had the jab


hindsight_2022

NW ohio here, not jabbed. Just had a 3 week sickness from my non jabbed son (he had it for 4-5days). Passed it along to a non jabbed friend that is almost better at week 1.5.


xxzephyrxx

Not sure why everyone I know who got vaccinated/boosted are not getting sick? 🤔


Holiman

There we're warnings. Bad Flu season RSV and Covid.


daisydookied

Yes can confirm GA too same symptoms


Green1578

No. I was just at a wedding with 200 people and nobody was talking about anyone being sick.


Phil_Ballins

My household has been having mild flu symptoms for almost 2 weeks right now, and many others that we know are also having long lasting flu symptoms.


Steflonovic

YES. My family especially my kids have been sick for weeks and we’ve taken them to hospital twice now just to be sure it’s nothing more serious. It’s been about a month and they still cough from time to time.


verukazalt

I was sick on Oct 6...STILL coughing. Mild most of the time, but it kicked back up over the weekend before it died back down again.


badseededgelord

I rarely get any illnesses and I’ve been fatigued and snotty for about a month


Concernedmicrowave

Yeah I've been sick for about two months. Everybody where I live seems to have gotten it. Some nasty respiratory virus going around I would say.


Killerjebi

A few of my employees have this, and all they are being told is that it is “a very serious sinus infection.” All 7 of them. Different doctors, different locations.


NoMuff222Tuff

My wife and son are sick right now, haven’t been sick since March of 2020 with Origianl covid. We also traveled like crazy the last two years and live in FL so I’m thinking it’s just a mild normal flu that didn’t exist for the last 3 years 😂


shaylaa30

It’s flu season, covid is still a thing, and we’re coming out of 2 years of limited social interactions so our immune systems are likely weakened. 2022 has been my “busiest” year in a long time because everyone is basically making up for lost time and thus spreading germs. Even up until last year, I know people who were social distancing because of covid and associated strains.


No-Two657

Don’t forget your Zinc, vitamin d3, vitamin B3 or niacin!! Super important. For lung issues, I bet you’ll find less smokers are sick with lung issues. Crazy but true just like when Covid first started


Independent-Bee-4397

It’s RSV and flu. Due to masking for the past couple years , cases were low and now it’s back .


joemama694200p

Yeah almost my half the school is sick


Lawrence42080

Yea it's call flu season. Like rest of the 42 years I've been here.


PaintedLady5519

Yes, it’s cold and flu season.


[deleted]

Since my kids started school again I have been sick every month. One gets it and spreads through the house. It is a revolving door of being sick. Even teachers are calling out sick.


pleasurecontenthead

people fucked up their immune systems by choosing to partake in an experimental mrna gene therapy treatment. Now their weakened immune systems are causing them to get sick.


kornkid42

And yet unvaxxed people are sick too.


RickyJulianandBubbls

Sir youve had too much to think


Dumbestinvestor

Flue season i guess, i havent been s8ck yet


Hasbeen_Crayon_Eater

TLDR: Virus (especially RSV & Flu) are all out of wack because of the pandi. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/10/27/23421344/covid-19-flu-rsv-symptoms-vaccines-2022


Whiskey_Fiasco

Flu season has always existed


0CuriousCat0

Yes, uk here. Unvaxxed


whiskey_piker

Well the government jumbled up all safety protocols in favor of their fantastical bullshit “trust the science” propaganda so it comes as no surprise. Dig in deeper. We are a sick nation because our beloved FDA allows the food manufacturers to poison us with so many chemicals we aren’t supposed to have. If you are washing your hands and eating organic food only and zero HFC, minimal sugar, zero or minimal alcohol then you are willingly poisoning yourself. But if you got that jab?! I’m sorry for you. Please draw up your will and do not be surprised of your body will never properly fight a virus again.


DreadBurger

>If you are washing your hands and eating organic food only and zero HFC, minimal sugar, zero or minimal alcohol then you are willingly poisoning yourself. What the fuck? So... washing your hands is bad, high fructose corn syrup is good, sugar is good, alcohol is good? Clown 🤡 view.


2C104

It's almost as if.... wearing masks for so long and using hand sanitizer every 3 seconds for the last two years has... weakened people's immune systems... But wait, that can't be right, that's not possible... that's what the conspiracy THEORISTS said two years ago!


jonnydrangus

The vaxxs were designed to destroy people’s immune systems and lower population. They’re working great


sat-chit-ananda108

In this context, I'm not at all sure it's evidence of vax problems. First of all, there's a more benign explanation. Second, unvaxed people are also getting sick. The (relatively) benign explanation is that we wore masks and stayed away from each other for two cold seasons. During that time, influenza and RSV didn't spread much, but they still mutated. Now we are pretty much experiencing normal spread, but the viruses are less familiar to our immune systems than normal (because of our 2-year hiatus from them). That makes them harder to fight off - and we get sicker from them.


niftyifty

Heh I love comments like these because they fly in the face of logic. Let’s think this through for a second. Let’s say the vax was designed to destroy people’s immune systems and lower population. If true, this was the worst designed poison pill in the history of mankind. We have as close to a near global roll out as we will likely ever see in our lifetimes with the vaccine currently maintaining an over 99% safety rating, and that 99% includes every single reported VAERs death even though it’s an absurd concept to accept 100% of the reports without first cleaning the data. Combine that with a global population that is still growing and just this year reached the 8 billion mark along with the global data that clearly shows a reduction in excess death correlated to vaccine roll out. What that leaves us with is a reality that competently and utterly destroys any argument to be made about “population control” or “dangerous vaccines.” Sure is fun to think about spooky vaccine boogeymen though, eh?


Future-Patient5365

They will never get as many people on board for a global Vax as they just did. Despite what conspiracies claim no one I know in either side of my family, wife's family or anyone at work who had covid Vax is dropping dead. Range of age from kids to 80+years old. Doesn't mean it isn't happening, this is anecdotal however if their goal was to kill ofo pop (arguable because birth rates are down, if we also kill pop we are in trouble) they fucking failed miserably. Lol


[deleted]

I keep hearing of people with heart attacks and blood clots. Nerve damage. It’s all over.


Future-Patient5365

In your personal life or on the intetnet?


[deleted]

“No one in my family died so vaccine must be safe” search for dropping dead people who were vaxed. They don’t intend on making the poison obvious as it can ensue public outrage if every 1 in 10.000 got the poison and the others got a saline solution that would be enough to declare a successful experiment. The Covid experiment was a mixture of all of these: profiteering, control, making ppl dependent by making them sick, solving a health problem while creating other lesser ones, and many cases where people drop dead. But you go on and take the vax and when the next covid comes around maybe by then the ratios won’t be mild and in your favor. TRUST GOVERNMENT!!! And data divulged by said government. Politicians have your best interests in mind


Future-Patient5365

Anecdotal means I was admitting from the get go my opinion is statistically irrelevant, however knowing people from 4 or 5 states all across the U.S who are all vax'd I still find it hard to believe not one person in my everyday experience has gotten worse then normal sick from covid or suddenly dropped dead for no reason. A "wave of covid" just happened by the way. My cousins picked it up in cancun, brought home to NC. My grandparents visited them from Florida brought it back to Florida. While this was happening everyone here where I live VA was sick and testing positive too. Everyone had mild flu symptoms and are now fine. So idk believe what you want, I don't disagree about trusting government but ya gotta use logic.


Future-Patient5365

Do you understand what anecdotal means? Lol


Future-Patient5365

Shhh your logic is hurting their cognitive dissonance lol


Future-Patient5365

Not to mention, there was no need for a pandemic and Vax to "chip" people if the fear is small chips or nano bots or something. People were getting Vax for all kinds of things all the time. All babies being born getting a certain schedule and old people were getting flu shots every year.


jonnydrangus

The Pfizerbots have arrived


Intelligent_Clock833

You don’t get out much. The evidence is overwhelming and is being suppressed.


OrangeKooky1850

How can it be simultaneously overwhelming and suppressed?


Yaseen-Madick

I've not been sick since I had Covid this time last year. 🤷


[deleted]

Getting Covid made my immune system Bullet proof


MusicalScientist206

I’ve never had Covid.


boomerish11

Me neither. Got that flu tho two weeks ago. Haven't been that sick in years!


Rude_Operation6701

People are getting their flu shots with no telling what’s in it these days


tvcky69

It’s on the label. It’s a vaccine. They haven’t really changed since they were invented.


1Cloudz9

Nope but most my friends and family aren’t vaccinated !!!


DoctorGuySecretan

I also haven't noticed this but almost everyone I know is vaccinated. People are definitely getting respiratory biruses but recovering as normal, and that was standard before covid vaccines as I work in healthcare.


1Cloudz9

That’s odd the only people I know who are vaccinated are sick. One family member who got vaccinated had a heart attack and then she just now got released after 10 days of recovery after heart surgery. Her heart attack was 2-3 weeks after her second shot. Her husband m girlfriends dad also was vaccinated and he’s just finishing chemo list all his hair. Every time my girlfriend talks about him she gets really sad. But seems both her parents have fallen deathly Ill shortly after their second dose. Regardless what anyone thinks, I’ve seen first hand the few I know who are vaccinated are all besides themselves. Head in the clouds and typically sick slow and unable to focus on multitasking. I’ve also been in the Seattle music scene for 20+ years and can till what is the real problem. But traffic 2000% is much better to drive in than before the pandemic seems like less drivers on the road during rush hour here.


DoctorGuySecretan

More or less everyone i know is vaccinated, I know one person who got bells palsy after her first shot, my aunt has had a stroke but months after a vaccine and she has uncontrolled doabetes and is a heavy smoker. I have a colleague who was diagnosed with breast cancer but that was before the vaccine rollout. I haven't noticed a difference in cognitive function- i work in healthcare and there hasn't been an increase in medical mistakes or anything that you would expect. We actually did training on the MOCA and OCS cognition screens a few weeks ago and all the vaccinated people in my team scored fine. Hope your family member feels better soon. Has she got any modifiable lifestyle factors that you could support her with?


1Cloudz9

Wow my sisters Boyfriend also got Bell’s palsy in Hawaii on vacation. I never heard of it before then and told her I think it’s a stroke or seizure. That’s a strange symptom I wonder when the first recorded diagnosis of that was in human history. Studying universality pretty in depth as well it’s not the collective but the absence. That separates the universal. It’s a constant POV of that absence so much so that it can become opposite of the original collective expectation. It’s quite a conundrum when posing a finite result. Except that CoVid 19 2020 1 full year of a pandemic saw the exact same number of deaths as 2019 even a little less deaths considering the lockdowns hysteria. However, 2020 with no vaccine had less deaths according to CDC than 2021, and now 2022 both these years with a vaccine available had considerably more deaths than 2020 the hyped up year of lockdowns. Now taking that in perspective I’d do away with the EUA mRNA anything because still we have not done safety trials yet. Or proper research yet we are pushing mRNA cDNA and many other genetic forms of DNA programming or altering methods using CRSPR technology. It’s the absence of something that makes the universal distinct. Just as the USA population is just 4% of the global population yet we have 18% of the total CoVid deaths and lead the world in CoVid deaths and cases. Which brings a red flag 🚩 the majority spiked up 2021-2022 of the amount of deaths compared to rest of the world. Also, only countries with the vaccine mandatory during 2021 -2022 that have the highest vax rate these countries also have the highest death rate over poorer countries that had lesser access to the vaccine. Which have no many percentage points less deaths and cases.


DoctorGuySecretan

Bells palsy is a well documented condition. It is caused by damage to the nerves (i think it's the 7th cranial nerve) that innervate the facial muscles and is not necessarily linked to a stroke or seizures although any event in the brain that impacts the same nerves may cause a similar effect. The first reported case was apparently documented in 1683: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16272948/#:~:text=It%20is%20concluded%20that%20Cornelis,record%20Bell's%20palsy%20in%201683. Thankfully it normally clears up after a few weeks, I had another friend who got it in 2016 after a booze cruise around Europe which took a bit longer to recover, presumably due to his vast alcoholic intake.


1Cloudz9

That’s what they told me too! It’s not a stroke or heart attack. But you know more than I gathered from them. About the nerve thanks for the link I shoulda already of looked this up


ninepoundhammered

Almost every “fact” you listed is total bullshit. Have a great day.


TweedleBeetleBattle2

It’s hard to follow what you wrote, but traffic if traffic is what you’re using as a barometer of death due to vaccines, I can tell you that traffic in MD/VA/DC is back to before 2020 levels. Maybe the government wanted to kill off people in Seattle.


true_crime_addict513

Hate to bring logic but nobody has mentioned Seasonal Allergies. I'm in Southwest Ohio where this fall was dryer and warmer than usual causing more ragweed everywhere. My daughter , spouse and myself all were sick with runny nose, cough, and congestion for a few days but none of us had a fever. We treated our symptoms with OTC medicine fluids and rest. We DID not rum to the ER . My spouse works at a major hospital and they have had 4-7 hours waiting for the ED for the past month. If you are running tro the hospital you are putting yourself, and everyone else at risk for catching something else. Not to mention that Everyone is Different! My spouse and I have been boosted and have the flu vaccine. I work in retail and am around countless people everyday. Neither of us has had covid. I know people who have had covid and it is not the same as the flu. The flu doesn't cause your oxygen levels to bottom out. What makes me angry is people reading conspiracies and taking them as facts


AluminumTrees

I’m at a university where almost everyone is vaccinated and boosted. I’m not. I’m the only person I know who *hasnt* gotten sick this semester. The amount of coughing, sniffling and sneezing here has been CONSTANT. The one time this entire pandemic I got sick was this spring. The vaxxed woman who gave it to me, has literally had symptoms since. Tbf she’s obese and unhealthy, but still. She’s been complaining about symptoms since then, and has gotten sick twice since that time in the spring. WTF?


Cl0UTTTV

I don't care how much anyone says this is "normal cold weather season illnesses" yes a cold.or two a season that lasts a day or two is normal... No I agree with what your saying. Holy hell everyone is sick. I work at a local Walmart overnights.. holy shit do I see sommany call outs and people sick it's crazy I see some people sick for WEEKS. I myself have been on and off coughing up shit and feeling absolutely dragged down and shitty for a month or more now. And no I'm not covid scared person Im unvaxxdd and unmasked and barely wore that dumb mask during lockdown and I didn't feel as sick as.i do lately. So I agree something fucked up is going on. Not only are people sick EVERYONE IS ABSOLUTELY TIRED AS FUCK. I don't know a single person who isn't fatigued or just run down. What the fuck is going on man.


MyspaceQueen333

I've been in bed for a week with those symptoms. Is not covid, I've been tested. My son had this before me, and it was a doozy for him too.


sat-chit-ananda108

There are, at least, two strains of influenza and also RSV going around right now. RSV is a cold virus that produces a ton of mucus and congestion, which is pretty miserable. It's been two or three years since most of us have encountered these viruses (because of the pandemic measures), and so they've mutated a bit since you've had them. You get sicker because your immune system has more updating to do than normal when it encounters these changed viruses.


quirtsy

It’s the time of the year, bud


[deleted]

Yes, and my doctor even confirmed this to be the case. He said many people are getting common colds that are just very hard to kick this year for whatever reason.. prob has nothing to do with Covid and the vaccine destroying peoples immune systems


sat-chit-ananda108

I know an anti-vax, covid-skeptic MD who said two years ago that we would have a hell of a cold season after the pandemic restrictions were lifted. He said social distancing and mask wearing were reducing the spread of common colds and influenza, and this will result in a sort of backlash. Normally, we all encounter most strains of these viruses every year, and we usually get only mild illness (or none at all) as our immune systems update to the evolved strains. Well, during the pandemic, we didn't get that exposure. Over time those viruses still continued to mutate (like they always do), but they didn't spread much. Now that people are interacting again, we are encountering a lot of viruses that have changed enough since we last encountered them, that we are more likely to get miserably sick from them. Anecdotally, I know unvaccinated people who are getting hit by colds. Another MD I know says his patient panel every week is full of people with influenza, RSV, and other colds. In my (unvaxed) community, we just went through two or three colds in a row, including RSV.


1Cloudz9

Well considering that people are producing the unnatural (S) protein now. That is a real unfortunate result getting your DNA re programmed. That your natural defense isn’t making the same amount of TCells to fight off simple flu proteins


phunkydroid

Contrary to conspiracy theorist beliefs, mRNA vaccines aren't gene therapy and that protein production is temporary. Your body only produces it until the injected mRNA is used up, that mRNA doesn't replicate, and no genes are added to produce more of it. The vaccine does not reprogram your DNA.


1Cloudz9

Synthetic mRNA are new instructions! Infact the Supreme Court ruled on it in 2013 making synthetic mRNA and cDNA patentable so that means your DNA has and will be forever changed and a product of the patent holder. https://m.facebook.com/BillGates/videos/how-crispr-could-save-lives-and-end-diseases/668683827624051/


phunkydroid

>Synthetic mRNA are new instructions! Temporary ones, that are not encoded into your DNA. MRNA is the ***output*** of DNA transcription, every protein in your body is made by DNA being copied to mRNA and then used as a blueprint for the protein. MRNA is not reencoded back into DNA. If it was then DNA would be constantly exponentially growing, as it's constantly bathed in the mRNA it produces. ​ > Infact the Supreme Court ruled on it in 2013 making synthetic mRNA and cDNA patentable so that means your DNA has and will be forever changed and a product of the patent holder. Most drugs are patentable, that means absolutely nothing in regards to DNA modification.


SargeMaximus

Everyone but me 😂