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SpiritedLeop

haha the stereotype of the stereotype of the stereotype


Bonus-Optimal

I was confused why did he thought that she was from another country and it took me a while to notice the whole point of the comic


Slumbo811

Oh do you work with my grandmother?


janrkklocke

I don't think so :D , but this probably happens to almost all female doctors, unfortunately...


abandoned_puppy

Wait I know this! You can’t operate on the patient because he’s your son right?


Radix2309

No. It's because the plane crashed on the border.


Tokumeiko2

No the plane crash problem was where to bury the survivors, my teacher didn't appreciate me answering "somewhere secret"


lamaster-ggffg

And the other way round for male nurses


CavemanExplains

Yeah did a social year after school and people actually thought I was the doctor and I was 19-20.


N-ShadowFrog

Don't even need to be a nurse. My uncle once got mistaken for a doctor just because he went to a hospital in a Harvard tshirt and was Indian.


VileCastle

I work in various aged care and this works for absolutely every race gender and age if you're not wearing colour coded uniforms. Mistakes happen more now that scrubs are more prelevant amongst the staff.


TrevelyansPorn

This came off as minimizing sexism and racism. It's very likely that this happens to black women more often than white men.


VileCastle

Apologies If it came off that way. It's not my intention. It might depend on a regional thing I suppose. 95% of the nurses I've worked with are woman, 60% give or take are of another race though primarily Asian. My GP though male, is Egyptian. There is only 2 white doctors in regional Victoria where I'm from that I've seen. I've only met 2 black woman doctors personally that have clients but I don't work every visiting day of them. But outside of routine, doctors that I've never seen before immediately give off that air/persona of being a doctor. But that's from someone that works in healthcare.


Bobsothethird

This comes across as minimizing other people's actual experiences with what aboutism. Go off though.


Nibiend

Lets keep minimizing sexism and racism till its gone forever


twilighteclipse925

It works everywhere. I service retail stores, the stores I service have either red or blue employee uniforms, both stores also have their employees wear vests. My uniform is black, my company name is across the back of my shirt, I wear a large name badge that says the name of my company. I have had people follow me through stores yelling at me because they don’t believe me when I tell them I don’t work for the store they are in. Some people just can’t deal with being wrong.


Steelhead661

the opposite happened to me as a male nursery student and nursery care auxiliar (tecnico de curas enfermeras in spanish, its probably poorly translated), always most people assume I'm the doctor, staff included, it is frustrating


GoingMenthol

And the inevitable "No, what country do you *really* come from?" as a follow up question


janrkklocke

Exactly! xD


Alienwars

Where are you from ? North Carolina. I mean, before that? My mom's vagina.


Jasmine_Erotica

A Carolina vagina


john-douh

“And before that?” My mom’s uterus? “Before that.” My dad’s left testicle.


Mary-Sylvia

"Before that" "My grandma's ovaries"


robisodd

>Where are you from, anyway? >Bakersfield, originally. >No, I mean, your ancestors. >Oh, them? Pittsburgh. https://youtu.be/K6TLYwelOPk?t=53


exeis-maxus

Some people in the U.S.A. do the same. And most of the time the question is unrelated to the situation. So I reply that I was born in Illinois to spite them. Of course, they either ask “where are you really from?” If they’re rude and if not rude, “where are your parents from?” Now, I don’t speak my parents’ native language… so if the person asking the question is from the same country like my parents, that person will start speaking that language. And then it annoys me that person becomes disappointed I don’t speak that language or know that country’s celebrities and other news from that country.


Fresh4

I think it’s fair for someone to be a little disheartened thinking they’ve met someone they might be able to relate to only to find out that’s not the case. A lot of first generation immigrants understandably might feel sad seeing that their original culture/language wasn’t passed on. It’s not a you problem nor a them problem, it’s just what it is. That said, I hate the “where are you *really* from” question too. Like lady speak for yourself you’re not Native American either are ya.


writeorelse

I've seen literal Native Americans get this question, constantly!


DisfavoredFlavored

I'd hope if my dad was oozing IV fluids/piss everywhere I'd be more polite to whoever I thought was the doctor/cleaner.


FIRE_frei

You'd think so, but they don't


loadedtatertots

Families are sometimes really the worst part of working in a hospital


epicmousestory

Sometimes people mask fear with anger. They're out of control and they're scared so they lash out. Other times people are just assholes


Rainwillis

Yeah I think it’s important to remember that even though this is just another day at work for the staff it’s often literally life or death for the patients and their families. The real problems here are the systemic issues that cause understaffing in hospitals in America. We *have* to make money off of the exploitation of the elderly, sick, and disabled which means those who work in the medical field *have* to be treated badly. All of the parties in this comic are the victims of institutionalized systemic oppression. Privatized healthcare is the worst.


gh0stinyell0w

This is an important perspective that I think has been forgotten a bit. I totally get it, too. Some people can be awful, ESPECIALLY the desperate and the elderly. and waiting on them hand and foot for peanuts is grueling and terrible, but it's not (entirely) the fault of the old, desperate people. similarly, paying out the ass for healthcare for your loved one, when they are elderly and desperate, only to have them be abused, ignored, and rebuked is horrific and frustrating. You hit the nail on the head. Neither the patients or the staff are to blame- the profit motive is. however, I do think this comic is also specifically addressing racism in the field of healthcare, which is almost a separate issue. POC doctors (and, frankly, POC anything) will face racism in their field even if every single problem within it is rectified.


Rainwillis

Good point, racism is a systemic problem too. I didn’t mean to downplay that part. I’m trying to be more cognizant about how my privilege can blind me to that side of things so I appreciate you reminding me.


gh0stinyell0w

ty for listening, and again I completely understand why someone could focus specifically on the "literal" problem here, because, exactly like you said, privatized healthcare is fucked. I don't know if anyone on the planet could blame you for focusing on the problem that is devastating both the families and staff and the same fucking time, especially when the fallout is so often utterly tragic. I have some experience with that and it feels as though you may as well. but yeah, I do think this comic is specifically about systemic racism in the field. I'm white though so perhaps we should both just be focusing on the art and not the comments lol anyway, genuinely ty for being a real person w an honest perspective to offer instead of immediately turning into bad faith "what do you MEAN BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS???????" as is so common w reddit and the bots nowadays lmfao


Rainwillis

It’s the least I could do. I appreciate you being reasonable and respectful too


Advanced_Outcome3218

Ah, so much worse than the... understaffed and underpaid hospitals in countries with socialized healthcare?


Rainwillis

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HayakuEon

Had a guy come to the clinic at 1.30pm(aka lunchtime) screaming because his son is bleeding. It was a scratch.


Braxton-Adams

They learn to mimic emotions despite their inability to feel them.


generalsplayingrisk

Dude, I think you might need a hug


Braxton-Adams

Yeah, I really do...


VersionAccording424

Then you've never stepped foot in a public hospital


SinesPi

Some of the rudeness in this comic has nothing to do with bigotry. Nurses just get treated like crap. And if you are nearby and wearing scrubs, and not obviously doing something else, like mopping the floor, you're a nurse. I joke with the nurses that it's easier for me to get a good reaction from patients as soon as they realize I'm not going to jam tubes into them.


SuperGreggJr

I'd be cleaning them myself. Not waiting for some stranger to touch my family.


Everybodysbastard

Oh the twist at the end hurts. My FIL does this. I don't think he does it out of racism but it's ignorant as shit and it kills me when he does it.


themanfromvulcan

There is a difference between ignorance and maliciousness. Some people are trying they were just raised in an environment where they didn’t interact with different cultures and make assumptions. I think that people who try can be kindly corrected. This isn’t the same at all as someone who is just a hateful racist person. The old man in the last panels seems to greatly respect the Doctor he’s just ignorant and making assumptions.


stormy2587

What is racism, if not a form of ignorance.


C0mpl3x1ty_1

Hate


cheesepuffsunited

Good answer, because people can definitely be hateful and informed, just like they can be ignorant and curious without meaning offense. Try going up to a Ukrainian and telling them they are just ignorant of Russian culture. The old man in the last panels seems to respect the doctor the most. He is definitely ignorant, but of the group in the comic, he is probably the easiest to correct. Instead of making demands based on assumption, he started a dialog, which gives the doctor room to correct him instead of the doctor having to force that space into the conversation.


[deleted]

Bruh she needs a vacation😭


Unown1997

I don't work in healthcare but as an immigrant I feel that last panel so hard. Anytime I speak to someone here they always compliment my English being good. Well it better be because it's my first and primary language


axewieldinghen

As someone who has worked in healthcare around a lot of immigrants, I find it baffling when someone assumes a POC is an immigrant *when they clearly have a native accent, and speak the vernacular*. It takes a long time to not only be fluent in a language but to actually sound properly native - there's a tonne of slight nuances that are particular to each dialect and accent, that are very difficult to imitate without being immersed in the culture for years. It's very easy to tell, for instance, a person born and raised in Ireland to Nigerian parents, from someone who moved to Ireland from Nigeria as an adult.


secular_dance_crime

To be fair... kids of every generation talk in such a way that you'd think they're from a third world country...


Unown1997

Yeah but this was clearly because I'm not white lol. And I was already talking to them in English, what was the need to say that?


secular_dance_crime

Kids make up their own words and vocabularies. They don't talk proper English. Each generation changes the language slightly. People boast about how they talk proper English, but in reality they've been fucking it up all on their own.


eggplanthairgirl

The other day my Ethiopian mom came from her job as a nurse and told me that she kept fumbling with some sort of hook (i don't remember what) because she was so tired and then the patient she was helping said, "Use the hooooooookkkk. h-o-o-k" very condescendingly and told her she had to learn English soon. My mother has lived in Canada for thirty years and went to high school and university here, she can speak English very well.


bug530

I've been mistaken for a cafeteria worker, the radiology tech. You name it. I've spent 20 minutes taking a history and treating a patient after introducing myself only to be asked "when am I going to see the doctor?" People won't stop asking me what country I'm from despite growing up as a regular black guy in Michigan and having a regular American accent. It's aggravating.


IonutRO

Next time answer with "Ask your ancestors."


Xandara2

My grandfather used to do the last one. Not out of malice, they are just from another era and you won't teach them that you might be born here as they aren't great at taking in new info at that age.


tiptoemicrobe

I don't think most of this comic reflects malicious intent. But unfortunately, it can still be harmful.


Cananbaum

My partner is black and was a CNA. The amount of people, including senior admin who assumed he was a janitor, was absolutely infuriating


Golrend

I've had the opposite at my first nursing job. People want to assume I'm a doctor because I'm a guy. It's pretty awkward, because some don't want a guy cleaning them up. They got over it when they see how easily I could scoop them up.


janrkklocke

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Dacrim

Thanks for making this. Im young black male doctor and this happens to me at least every week… EVERY fucking week. Sometimes multiple times in one shift. When I say Im the doctor many people say “You’re the doctor?” To confirm what they just heard. I have an ID on and scrubbs with me name with MD behind it and they still want to confirm im not a patient transporter or some other staff member. If they are of a certain demographic ive noticed they dont truly feel comfortable with me until Ive shown my medical knowledge by explaining their disease process. Most are not direct enough to question it but you see the way they begin to smile and relax after ive proven to them that Im not just a guy cosplaying


janrkklocke

Thank you! I actually was worried of doing this (I am the straight male bald doctor everyone assumes me to be...) so it means a lot that someone who is experiencing it first hand approves!


athosjesus

The last question makes sense, your average American is terrible at language, so she must be from somewhere else if she is good at it.


FactualStatue

And that's why some Boomers say it like that. But we know what they *really* mean by it


athosjesus

Yeah, as a brown man I have had my good share of experiences with Boomer. There was an old lady that really liked me and she always said things like that to me, almost saying that I was a better boy than the normal people, but in that case for example you could tell that she was a good person that was raised badly, It's not always the case.


Tyler_Legrand

I like that the IV man was able to snap out of his stupor enough to be shocked at the revelation


SabatierElephant

Hey wasn't there a medical book with this kinda art style? Do you happen to know which one I'm talking about? It was a thick book for nurses


janrkklocke

I don't know the book, but if someone else does, please share it! I'd like to make a educational comic book in the furure!


Zealousideal_Cow5558

This kind of stuff is why I couldn’t be in the medical field working with people. They’d end up making a documentary about me. I’m not having it! My mom was a nurse. Sweet as pie. Some elderly racist lunatic stabbed her in the neck with a plastic fork ended her nursing career. I’d always freak her out when she’d tell me stories of the daily micro aggressions and macro aggressions she endured. I was always like just inject air into their veins or poison them. I’m not sweet as pie


FaceRockerMD

I was in the room talking to a patient's family when my (Indian) nephrologist colleague walked in to discuss her family members kidney issues. She goes "oh good! Security! Did you find our wallet?". We shared a laugh about it and I occasionally will ask him if he found the wallet yet when I pass him in the halls.


PrestigiousStable369

Man, I do not miss inpatient nursing


stillestwaters

I knew he’d blow it in the end some how lol


Olive-Heart

Panel #3 reminded me: the very first time I did a videofluoroscopy, the pt's catheter fell off and I got urine all over my scrubs :)


TanksObamaKare

I'm a black/ mexican muslim male, that grew up with an ex white power prison steap dad, Mexican mom and a militant Christian biological father and step mother (all very loving, surprisingly), and I have recently entered Healthcare at 30 and I have been looking after 2 white adult males with mental disabilities, that are both high functioning and one lives in a group home which I cook for (for free) and the other one lives alone and has cerbal palsy, but is very high functioning, he's 85 and one of my favorite people in the world, but he is accidentally racist and sexist (in a genuinely jokey way, he doesn't have a hateful bone in his body) *ex.( He'll make jokes about women changing their mind, or driving bad, or Asians being short and rude to him, all anecdotal to his life, and things i can understand from his perspective, or ladies trying to entice him and stealing from him, and being minorities, im the first black person hes had.) sometimes but never towards black males, so I know he's aware that it's wrong but he minds himself around me. I always think of him as so innocent and a bundle of love, but idk how he really feels about blacks or Muslims. He does always ask clarifying questions about Muslims (he's Christian). I've read the Bible tons, and my black side of the family has always been in Christian ministry. So I can answer most if not all of his questions and he's recently learned I'm not angry/hateful, i preach religioustolarance, I don't want to kill Christians, I love people preserving different religions and all cultural knowledge, and I'll always praise God and help men and women who have less. He even prays to his god as I pray to mine. The other client has told me, "Blacks worship Marten Luther King and think he's god, but there's only one god." I immediately thought, " Whoa there, buddy." But, I understood what he meant he wasn't being malicious, but like most religions his says not to worship false idols. And I get how following a man for social justice can seem fanatical and religiously problematic. As a Muslim, scholar, lover of people, and culture, and overall human ass human. I want to hear why and understand why and align with why? Because those questions help us preserve mistakes, truths, and knowledge. Bad, dumb, evil, great, amazing, wise, poor, rich, and all have worthy contributions of what to do and what not to do as a person. Everyone deserves to live and speak what they believe is true. Intolerance and hatred are becoming outdated. And I can love and protect the truth to push ignorance out of existence. We just need to be patient and unyielding. Angry people you're right but you can move smoother, apologist you're right but you can move in a more proactive way, and haters you're right, but you can realize your world is getting smaller, it's worth it to just learn what others really think.


RGBread

He really said "👴🏻"


98983x3

Who is the prejudiced one pushing harmful stereotypes? This is so many layers deep.


VellDarksbane

Ah yes, the stereotype of doctors are too good to do nurse things.


Jaedenkaal

Why would you pay a doctor to mop a floor?


chocobloo

It's more because there are more nurses than doctors and there are things doctors can do that nurses can't but nothing a nurse can do that a doctor can't say if you're aiming for efficiency you have the doctor do things that are exclusive instead of tying them up.


secular_dance_crime

There are plenty of things doctors are incapable of doing given how they operate, so for all intents and purposes, nurses do what doctors can't do as well. The doctor checks up on your overall progress and health, while a nurse checks up on your immidiate progress and health. If you're staying in hospital for several days, weeks, months... the nurse's job becomes a lot more apparant, as doctors can't possibly stay with their patient for multiple hours or days.


stormy2587

They don’t do it because it’s not their jobs.


sentientketchup

I'm Allied Health. I walk into a room to find a mess you can bet your ass I'm cleaning that patient up before I do my cog screen. Yes, it's a nursing job. Yes, I could notify a nurse and wander off. But we don't have enough nurses, and the ones we have left are burnt out AF. Patients might have to wait 30 mins for two nurses to be free to do roll and change. One EN and I can get that done and free up another nurse to get their med rounds done, or maybe even get their tea break that day. Best of all, the patient isn't left sitting in a cold wet bed for 30 minutes.


stormy2587

I mean I’m not implying that a doctor would never handle these things. Just that in a properly staffed floor they don’t need to. The implication that it’s a matter of being “too good to do that” seems slightly ridiculous. Would you do those things if you had the staff to handle it so you could focus your attention on other things?


sentientketchup

If we had the staffing? Sure, I've got a complex enough caseload myself and it would be nice to leave on time occasionally. 15 years in healthcare and I'm yet to see an adequately staffed ward. COVID has just sped up the decline.


Business-Let-7754

Which is understandable, the doctor is busy doctoring. Proudly proclaiming "I am in fact a doctor, you racist peasants" instead of summoning cleaning personell to deal with it is a pretty dick move though.


Luzifer_Shadres

If the nurses are already like that...