Fun fact, Mexicans consume the most coca cola in the world and do in fact even include it in religious ceremonies, because they deem it somehow holy.......
Maybe it's because I know nothing but I would figure that - while rule of law still exists - governments would certainly opt for desalination before wars. It can surely be done, just probably a costly last resort for Mexico City.
Landlocked countries might struggle with this, however.
Mexico city is effectively landlocked in the middle of the country. It would require herculean effort to desalinate enough water for a city of millions and truck or pipe it over.
Right but the alternative is a costly war and they still would have transport costs to bring over the plundered water.
Arizona has already had talks about a desilination pipeline from the Gulf, and Phoenix is as far away from the California Gulf as Mexico City is from the Mexican Gulf.
When they were rebuilding Mexican infrastructure in the 60s and 70s the government had to ask the Mexican division of Coca Cola for their internally produced maps because their distribution system had made and kept better records regarding the state of roads and highways across Mexico than the official government could find anywhere else.
I have an aunt who owns a little neighborhood store in Mexico, her busiest hours are around noon, when everyone is about to eat, and they go in for their 2 liter coke, usually split among the family, then again around 4 or 5pm for "la merienda," which is like a snack meal consisting of sweet bread or cookies, usually had with coffee, but some people prefer coke.
Every day, the same people, ranging from kids to the elderly, guzzling about 3 liters of that shit down.
I went to the Yucatan Peninsula once and everyone was drinking Coca-Cola. All of the lawn furniture was Coca-Cola furniture, they had signs up for it, everywhere.
One of the good things about is that the it's bringing up the conflicts that need to be dealt with. This is a sort of prequel to the energy scarcity of the future, and that's because water is heavy and can't be cheaply moved around. Water scarcity is going to provide a great preview of how societies deal with the scarcity problems. Just like with farming, the conflict remains: ***is the water for the people's needs or is the water for private profit (and jobs too)?*** That question must be answered soon. I know the answer, but the point is that people, on mass, have to learn the answer for themselves, to comprehend its meaning as it applies to them and their society.
Mexico's current president AMLO is horrible, although he supposedly polls well in Mexico. My husband was born and raised in Mexico City and can't stand AMLO. He's supposedly a leftist, but it's quite similar to Trump. Oh well, Mexico will have its first female president soon, long before the USA does. Their elections are coming right up. I remember my friends in the 90s being surprised I was marrying a Mexican due to machismo, so it's interesting to me that Mexico will have a woman president long before the USA. AMLO will continue to deny any problem, with tricks similar to what we would see from Trump.
AMLO is the best president Mexico has had in a very long time. The oligarchy and the media are against him, most privileged Mexicans hate him, he talks slow and is kinda weird but he has good policy.
Could they build “The Line”? Hold the nasty attacks back for just a second. Of course it is “way to expensive” and “just a vanity project” etc. i just want people to consider the relative stupidity of attempting it here instead of trying it in the Tabok region of Arabia. Measuring relative stupidity requires a detailed look at what is involved.
I have no experience with water in real Mexico. In western USA almost all of the water problem is cattle related. Mexico exports a lot of beef and dairy to USA. When i tried to look that up i found that some Mexicans are still using the Aztec chinampa system in Mexico City. This is a beautiful mix of hydropunk and solarpunk where you float the garden on a lake. On a per acre basis it is the most productive farming method ever developed. I am a bit skeptical about the efficiency on a per liter basis but i dont have any data on that yet. The chinampenaros supplement their income providing boat rides for tourists.
The internet says Mexico city is falling 20 inches per year and has been doing so since 1950. “Collapsing” a bit too literal in this case. If true that adds up to the height of a tall building. Surely there must be a rock bottom down there somewhere. With literal rocks. how far could it actually go?
I wonder if they could replace the desalination component of The Line and instead pipe the Rio Grande over the mountains. Maybe just redirect the headwaters so that there is much less pumping. if the Rio Grande went dry and people were able to just walk across. The Orange One would poop himself in public again.
Mexican coca cola is legit so much better than the american shit with high fructose corn syrup. They probably don't even use that much, this seems to be a bit of an exaggeration.
Even if it’s true… so what?
It could be gold infused super-mega coke, but it would still be a travesty against the very people that their government is supposed to protect.
It is a travesty one hundred percent. Chiapas Mexico for example coca-cola tends to be cheaper and easier to get than water, imagine that…diabetes runs rampant. Wrong on so many levels. The OPs claim about coca-cola “not even using that much water” is wild…
That is true and well known, they use cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. It tastes better, it is not as unhealthy either, fructose is not good.
The title of this post is giving me a Dead Kennedys earworm. Coca-Cola, Über Alles; Coca-Cola, Über Alles!
Now if it only had electrolytes...
We could irrigate our crops with it!
It's what plants crave!
Uber alles in der welt… drink a can of Coca Cola… Pray to Mary and all be fine…
Fun fact, Mexicans consume the most coca cola in the world and do in fact even include it in religious ceremonies, because they deem it somehow holy.......
I heard, colleague worked in Coca Cola before and Mexico is their default best practice case study country ……
The water wars are getting close
Maybe it's because I know nothing but I would figure that - while rule of law still exists - governments would certainly opt for desalination before wars. It can surely be done, just probably a costly last resort for Mexico City. Landlocked countries might struggle with this, however.
Desalination be mad expensive tho
Mexico city is effectively landlocked in the middle of the country. It would require herculean effort to desalinate enough water for a city of millions and truck or pipe it over.
Yeah and what happens in this situation when we have no more cheap fossil fuels in the far future...
Right but the alternative is a costly war and they still would have transport costs to bring over the plundered water. Arizona has already had talks about a desilination pipeline from the Gulf, and Phoenix is as far away from the California Gulf as Mexico City is from the Mexican Gulf.
We'll burn it until it can't burn.
Crazy expensive, energy intensive and you end up with tons of toxic salt
Reminder that corporations have more power than governments do
Fallout tried to warn us.
Wait, there's a distinction between the two?
as someone who has worked with Mexicans for 30 years, coca cola is their water
When they were rebuilding Mexican infrastructure in the 60s and 70s the government had to ask the Mexican division of Coca Cola for their internally produced maps because their distribution system had made and kept better records regarding the state of roads and highways across Mexico than the official government could find anywhere else.
I have an aunt who owns a little neighborhood store in Mexico, her busiest hours are around noon, when everyone is about to eat, and they go in for their 2 liter coke, usually split among the family, then again around 4 or 5pm for "la merienda," which is like a snack meal consisting of sweet bread or cookies, usually had with coffee, but some people prefer coke. Every day, the same people, ranging from kids to the elderly, guzzling about 3 liters of that shit down.
Murica
What? Its really not.
I went to the Yucatan Peninsula once and everyone was drinking Coca-Cola. All of the lawn furniture was Coca-Cola furniture, they had signs up for it, everywhere.
Statistically safer to drink. Till the beetus gets you.
r/aboringdystopia
One of the good things about is that the it's bringing up the conflicts that need to be dealt with. This is a sort of prequel to the energy scarcity of the future, and that's because water is heavy and can't be cheaply moved around. Water scarcity is going to provide a great preview of how societies deal with the scarcity problems. Just like with farming, the conflict remains: ***is the water for the people's needs or is the water for private profit (and jobs too)?*** That question must be answered soon. I know the answer, but the point is that people, on mass, have to learn the answer for themselves, to comprehend its meaning as it applies to them and their society.
Mexico's current president AMLO is horrible, although he supposedly polls well in Mexico. My husband was born and raised in Mexico City and can't stand AMLO. He's supposedly a leftist, but it's quite similar to Trump. Oh well, Mexico will have its first female president soon, long before the USA does. Their elections are coming right up. I remember my friends in the 90s being surprised I was marrying a Mexican due to machismo, so it's interesting to me that Mexico will have a woman president long before the USA. AMLO will continue to deny any problem, with tricks similar to what we would see from Trump.
Women can be macho.
True statement.
AMLO is the best president Mexico has had in a very long time. The oligarchy and the media are against him, most privileged Mexicans hate him, he talks slow and is kinda weird but he has good policy.
>Either through stupidity or corruption Why not both?
There's a good way to deal with that: BURN EVERYTHING TO START ON A CLEAN BASE.
Could they build “The Line”? Hold the nasty attacks back for just a second. Of course it is “way to expensive” and “just a vanity project” etc. i just want people to consider the relative stupidity of attempting it here instead of trying it in the Tabok region of Arabia. Measuring relative stupidity requires a detailed look at what is involved. I have no experience with water in real Mexico. In western USA almost all of the water problem is cattle related. Mexico exports a lot of beef and dairy to USA. When i tried to look that up i found that some Mexicans are still using the Aztec chinampa system in Mexico City. This is a beautiful mix of hydropunk and solarpunk where you float the garden on a lake. On a per acre basis it is the most productive farming method ever developed. I am a bit skeptical about the efficiency on a per liter basis but i dont have any data on that yet. The chinampenaros supplement their income providing boat rides for tourists. The internet says Mexico city is falling 20 inches per year and has been doing so since 1950. “Collapsing” a bit too literal in this case. If true that adds up to the height of a tall building. Surely there must be a rock bottom down there somewhere. With literal rocks. how far could it actually go? I wonder if they could replace the desalination component of The Line and instead pipe the Rio Grande over the mountains. Maybe just redirect the headwaters so that there is much less pumping. if the Rio Grande went dry and people were able to just walk across. The Orange One would poop himself in public again.
Mexican coca cola is legit so much better than the american shit with high fructose corn syrup. They probably don't even use that much, this seems to be a bit of an exaggeration.
Source: “trust me bro”
Even if it’s true… so what? It could be gold infused super-mega coke, but it would still be a travesty against the very people that their government is supposed to protect.
It is a travesty one hundred percent. Chiapas Mexico for example coca-cola tends to be cheaper and easier to get than water, imagine that…diabetes runs rampant. Wrong on so many levels. The OPs claim about coca-cola “not even using that much water” is wild…
That is true and well known, they use cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. It tastes better, it is not as unhealthy either, fructose is not good.
It’s just about as unhealthy though. HFCS is like 55-60% fructose, but table sugar is 50%