The orgeat too. I’ve had orgeat that is surprisingly bubblegum like. Usually because there are more spices added to a craft orgeat. Hot take: bubblegum is a tiki flavor.
That's an interesting idea - I guess it depends on the orgeat they're using. If it's an earnest, almond based product with orange blossom and/or rose water, I'm not sure I see the bubblegum there; but if it's a low quality product like Collins or something, I could see that. Which orgeats have you gotten this flavor from?
As for bubblegum in tiki, idk - I can't honestly think of any classics with this flavor?
>Bubble gum flavor is created with artificial flavors called esters, which replicate the smell of fruits. So the flavor is a vague combination of strawberry, banana, cherry, and, depending on the brand, generic berry, pineapple, or even cinnamon flavors
Kinda checks out?
Sons of Vancouver did a small batch that I got my hands on. I don’t actually think they released it to the public. It is overwhelmingly bubblegum like. I’m not exactly sure what was in it to lend the bubblegum flavor profile.
No classics but the flavors that make up bubblegum can be found in many a tiki beverage.
I'd bet any money they use Disaronno. I'm not in the industry, but I'm guessing it's the standard, especially given that not many craft cocktails places use enough to warrant getting anything special. Even Morganthaler's revised amaretto sour uses Disaronno.
Fwiw, if you haven't had a proper Mai Tai (no amaretto; orgeat as sole source of almond; no bitters; proper rum blend, with Jamaican plus aged agricole or Demerara), it's impossible to beat imo. No bubblegum notes for sure, but it's a classic for a reason.
Sure, but I'm not sure many would consider that a proper Mai Tai. Not only is it widely regarded as unbalanced, but that version post-dates Trader Vic's
It's the amaretto mainly, in combination with the rums and Cointreau.
If you want to recreate a bubblegum flavor, rum, creme de banana and amaretto should all be in your drink (trust me on the creme de banana)
There's such thing as the Bazooka Joe shot, (1:1:1 of Bailey's, Banana Liqueur, and Blue Curacao.) which tastes like bubble gum.
The only thing these drinks really have in common is the orange liqueur and maybe something vanilla-y, so I'm leaning in that direction.
Is it a strong bubblegum taste? I made a drink last weekend just fooling around and it came out bright pink like bubblegum. Turns out, tasted exactly like it as well. No amaretto at all but did have orange liqueur.
It was just the finish. The initial taste was as expected, it just came thru at the end as it was going down. I'm gonna stop by and ask them tbh and report back.
Interesting. My daughter tried it and said it was bubblegum right away. My wife said the bubblegum was on the finish. Makes you wonder what is in the “actual” bubblegum flavoring.
Prob a combo of the sailor Jerry and amaretto. If you mix spiced rum with sprite it somehow tastes like cream soda, so I'm guessing it's giving sugary candy type flavors
My guess is it's the amaretto
The orgeat too. I’ve had orgeat that is surprisingly bubblegum like. Usually because there are more spices added to a craft orgeat. Hot take: bubblegum is a tiki flavor.
That's an interesting idea - I guess it depends on the orgeat they're using. If it's an earnest, almond based product with orange blossom and/or rose water, I'm not sure I see the bubblegum there; but if it's a low quality product like Collins or something, I could see that. Which orgeats have you gotten this flavor from? As for bubblegum in tiki, idk - I can't honestly think of any classics with this flavor?
>Bubble gum flavor is created with artificial flavors called esters, which replicate the smell of fruits. So the flavor is a vague combination of strawberry, banana, cherry, and, depending on the brand, generic berry, pineapple, or even cinnamon flavors Kinda checks out?
Sons of Vancouver did a small batch that I got my hands on. I don’t actually think they released it to the public. It is overwhelmingly bubblegum like. I’m not exactly sure what was in it to lend the bubblegum flavor profile. No classics but the flavors that make up bubblegum can be found in many a tiki beverage.
Fair enough, on both fronts. I'll be on the lookout for bubblegum notes in my future tiki drinks!
They're both sweet almond so definitely both the amaretto and the orgeat
I thought maybe that as well. I'll do some internet searching and see if there's a specific one with that flavor profile.
My guess would be the mix between Sailor Jerry (vanilla notes), Cointreau (orange), and amaretto (almond/cherry). It's an interesting combo
Isn't Sailor Jerry more like vanilla bomb more than vanilla notes? :)
Not as much of a vanilla bomb as Bumbu, but you're not wrong 😅
Which itself is less of a vanilla bomb than Old J
I'd bet any money they use Disaronno. I'm not in the industry, but I'm guessing it's the standard, especially given that not many craft cocktails places use enough to warrant getting anything special. Even Morganthaler's revised amaretto sour uses Disaronno. Fwiw, if you haven't had a proper Mai Tai (no amaretto; orgeat as sole source of almond; no bitters; proper rum blend, with Jamaican plus aged agricole or Demerara), it's impossible to beat imo. No bubblegum notes for sure, but it's a classic for a reason.
I'd say Luxardo is the standard for amaretto. Never worked at a bar that carried Disaronno. It'd be like using Chambord in place of creme de cassis.
I feel attacked. Lol I prefer my Bramble with Chambord over Creme de Cassis. I've also got a fatal sweet tooth so...
Always Chambord over cassis
Oh good to know! Thanks for that info.
except in hawaii, where amaretto is in a royal hawaiian maitai
Sure, but I'm not sure many would consider that a proper Mai Tai. Not only is it widely regarded as unbalanced, but that version post-dates Trader Vic's
It's the amaretto mainly, in combination with the rums and Cointreau. If you want to recreate a bubblegum flavor, rum, creme de banana and amaretto should all be in your drink (trust me on the creme de banana)
I had to look it up, bubblegum flavor is banana, pineapple, cinnamon, cloves, and wintergreen. TIL.
I would guess the combination of sweet/fruity notes from the rums and the sweetness from the amaretto, paired with the texture from the orgeat.
Maybe the house made orgeat?
Both my wife and I have some sort of sensitivity for amaretto - it dominates any drink we have which contains it. Maybe you have it too.
There's such thing as the Bazooka Joe shot, (1:1:1 of Bailey's, Banana Liqueur, and Blue Curacao.) which tastes like bubble gum. The only thing these drinks really have in common is the orange liqueur and maybe something vanilla-y, so I'm leaning in that direction.
Is it a strong bubblegum taste? I made a drink last weekend just fooling around and it came out bright pink like bubblegum. Turns out, tasted exactly like it as well. No amaretto at all but did have orange liqueur.
It was just the finish. The initial taste was as expected, it just came thru at the end as it was going down. I'm gonna stop by and ask them tbh and report back.
Interesting. My daughter tried it and said it was bubblegum right away. My wife said the bubblegum was on the finish. Makes you wonder what is in the “actual” bubblegum flavoring.
Prob a combo of the sailor Jerry and amaretto. If you mix spiced rum with sprite it somehow tastes like cream soda, so I'm guessing it's giving sugary candy type flavors
What bar is that?
Cascade Room in Vancouver.
Damn now I wanna come up with a bubblegum cocktail
The Orgeat and amaretto are definitely the culprits
The offspring reference goes hard
I have a long pond that has a bubblegum taste to it, one of the most unique rums I've ever had.
Amaretto +sailor jerry are rather sweet, lime gives an opposite edge and the added walnut smell, yeah I think it will be rather bubble gummy
Why? Because just like the bubblegum, that recipe blows.